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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: android465764E on February 16, 2013, 02:50 pm

Title: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: android465764E on February 16, 2013, 02:50 pm
I've ordered three times from a domestic vendor who sells crystal mdma.

UK - Domestic.

First two packages arrived no probs after about 48hrs.

The 3rd package hasn't arrived. It's been a week.

I messaged the vendor and they said it should've been there by now given the postage options they chose. (1st class royal mail).

Now, I only have one delivery address. No drops possible in my situation.

My question is this.. 
Is my address now burned? Or is it more to do with the vendor's packaging method and/or sorting office location? I'm clueless about the chain of events that take place between standard first class sendout and doorstep arrival. 


What should I do? Write the whole thing off (SR), or try a different vendor? 

Also worth noting, I've received xtc from the NL with zero problems. 72hr delivery in-fact.

Oh, and we're not talking Pablo Escobar type amounts here, I only order 1g - 2g per order. 


My tin-foil hat is on stand-by. lol...
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: UK Stealth on February 16, 2013, 08:33 pm
I would wait a little more it might have been rerouted...
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: android465764E on February 16, 2013, 09:41 pm
I would wait a little more it might have been rerouted...


rerouted? I know what that word means, (lol) but could you elaborate? (Ō_o)
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: Hungry ghost on February 16, 2013, 11:54 pm
       The thing is, when this happens to you, you can drive yourself mad trying to figure out what's happened. But there's really no way of knowing. The only way to test your address is to use it again.
       I think my sixth package never arrived. I never found out what happened. I used a different address next few times. The next time I used original addy, it never turned up again. I decided address was burnt. But a couple of weeks later got a note from post office saying my package wasn't delivered due to unpaid postage. After much dithering I plucked up courage to collect it. The stupid vendor had forgotten to put stamps on it! Used address since with no problems.
      You just have to accept the uncertainty in this circumstance....if it doesn't turn up consult vendors refund policy. No one here can tell you what happened to your package. You just have to decide for yourself if you want to try again.
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 17, 2013, 12:18 am
I got your PM but have just seen this so will reply here.

One week isn't long, give it more time before considering it lost/seized/stolen or whatever.

I would however advise changing your drop arrangements if it doesn't show, you would be ill advised to keep ordering to an address that may have had a seizure.

Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: android465764E on February 17, 2013, 12:45 am
Thanks guys.

Yeah, the vendor gave a full refund no questions asked. Which considering the last two items I had from him arrived virtually overnight, tells me that he thinks it's definitely not gonna arrive.

I ordered another item from a different vendor and specified next day delivery (well, Tuesday considering it's now sat), if nothing is here by Wednesday, I'm gonna write this address off. Shame. :-/


Looking into other options as we speak.


What's the likely outcome of a burned address though? A love-letter from LE?

Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: android465764E on February 17, 2013, 12:53 am
       The thing is, when this happens to you, you can drive yourself mad trying to figure out what's happened. But there's really no way of knowing. The only way to test your address is to use it again.
 
      You just have to accept the uncertainty in this circumstance....


Yeah, agreed. I'm definitely riding  the paranoia train at the moment.
Easy to give advice to others in this situation ie. "its only been a week, be patient!" etc... which I *have* told a few people before on these very boards, but when it actually happens to you, it's like, FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK. lol..
 
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 17, 2013, 12:55 am
Depends on the size of the order, as a general rule, and I use the word 'general' carefully you will hear nothing for small intercepts but do not get complacent as only the very stupid make assumptions about issues that could potentially affect your liberty.

Love letters are rare as are knocks on the door, one intercept for a small quantity is unlikely to warrant the police time, effort and expense of paying you a visit however I do know that LE can sometimes do things that do not conform to this paradigm and conduct an operation that on the face of it makes no sense, I say this in the Australian context I hasten to add, I have no real understanding of how things operate in the UK on such matters.

If you can sever all links between you and your drops then do it.
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: android465764E on February 17, 2013, 01:21 am
Depends on the size of the order, as a general rule, and I use the word 'general' carefully you will hear nothing for small intercepts but do not get complacent as only the very stupid make assumptions about issues that could potentially affect your liberty.

Love letters are rare as are knocks on the door, one intercept for a small quantity is unlikely to warrant the police time, effort and expense of paying you a visit however I do know that LE can sometimes do things that do not conform to this paradigm and conduct an operation that on the face of it makes no sense, I say this in the Australian context I hasten to add, I have no real understanding of how things operate in the UK on such matters.

If you can sever all links between you and your drops then do it.


It was only 1g. Hardly a road-block type situation.
In the uk, you can use a false name at a real address. I do it all the time with birthday gifts and twitter friends' gifts etc. "captain picard", "Easter bunny" etc.. 
So I do the same with my SR orders.
"nothing to do with me officer. No-on here by that name" Return to sender, etc.

But I understand i thay in the US this isn't an option? For some reason?


Can't sever ties, it's where I live.

If the 2nd 'verification' order doesn't come, I'll have no choice but to get an anon drop box. Interesting recent thread about a new service in uk recently. - mybybox.
Seems easy enough to set up with anon pre-pay card.

*sigh* Just which  I was starting to enjoy myself.
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: example76 on February 19, 2013, 09:49 am
Depends on the size of the order, as a general rule, and I use the word 'general' carefully you will hear nothing for small intercepts but do not get complacent as only the very stupid make assumptions about issues that could potentially affect your liberty.

Love letters are rare as are knocks on the door, one intercept for a small quantity is unlikely to warrant the police time, effort and expense of paying you a visit however I do know that LE can sometimes do things that do not conform to this paradigm and conduct an operation that on the face of it makes no sense, I say this in the Australian context I hasten to add, I have no real understanding of how things operate in the UK on such matters.

If you can sever all links between you and your drops then do it.


It was only 1g. Hardly a road-block type situation.
In the uk, you can use a false name at a real address. I do it all the time with birthday gifts and twitter friends' gifts etc. "captain picard", "Easter bunny" etc.. 
So I do the same with my SR orders.
"nothing to do with me officer. No-on here by that name" Return to sender, etc.

But I understand i thay in the US this isn't an option? For some reason?


Can't sever ties, it's where I live.

If the 2nd 'verification' order doesn't come, I'll have no choice but to get an anon drop box. Interesting recent thread about a new service in uk recently. - mybybox.
Seems easy enough to set up with anon pre-pay card.

*sigh* Just which  I was starting to enjoy myself.


Us Brits are quite lucky at least in the sense that the police are to lazy to give a fuck, if your caught with a gram they probably wont care very much. Most turn a blind eye, slap on the wrist type thing. Ive been caught with drugs 3 times.

Cocaine
2 Pills
Weed

each time it was just a stop and search thing, I was young and looked like trouble i suppose lol.. All 3 times they just confiscated it and told me that if it happened again i would be in court blah blah blah. They understand that as a nation the UK are very strongly in to their part drugs.

But I might add that all my deliveries are taken longer than usual as well, stuff i normally get next day took 4 days to get to me
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: android465764E on February 22, 2013, 02:21 am
Update:

Had several orders arrive from different vendors since, and all arrived. So at least the burned address theory has failed.

Vendor described his packing methods to me, so if in the future I receive multiple orders, I'll know which is his.

But meh, stuff goes missing sometimes. Just how it is. 
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 22, 2013, 02:53 am
Update:

Had several orders arrive from different vendors since, and all arrived. So at least the burned address theory has failed.

Vendor described his packing methods to me, so if in the future I receive multiple orders, I'll know which is his.

But meh, stuff goes missing sometimes. Just how it is.

Do not make the mistake of being complacent mate. If that order was picked up it will be logged on a register somewhere then if you have another no show then you may come under closer scrutiny.

Just saying...

Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: Gengar17 on February 22, 2013, 03:06 am
Full refund is pretty awesome Android! Which vendor were you using for the MD?
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: android465764E on February 22, 2013, 03:31 am
Update:

Had several orders arrive from different vendors since, and all arrived. So at least the burned address theory has failed.

Vendor described his packing methods to me, so if in the future I receive multiple orders, I'll know which is his.

But meh, stuff goes missing sometimes. Just how it is.

Do not make the mistake of being complacent mate. If that order was picked up it will be logged on a register somewhere then if you have another no show then you may come under closer scrutiny.

Just saying...




I agree 100%.

I have thought long about what would make this package 'stand out' from other orders from the same guy. But nothing.
He did mention that some packages were late due to insufficient postage, ie. had to go to sorting office and pay the excess. Royal Mail take an AGE to inform the recipient of this.

To date, the package is only about ten days late.

I live in hope, but also now have doubts about whether I used my correct post code. I sometimes get the first and last letters mixed up. So that's an extra factor to consider.

We'll see. tbh I've written it off, and learned a few lessons.
Title: Re: Domestic order intercepted/lost. - advice please. (uk)
Post by: android465764E on February 22, 2013, 03:38 am
Full refund is pretty awesome Android! Which vendor were you using for the MD?


tbh mate I'd rather not say.
This thread is specifically about a missing package from a particular vendor. We still don't really know what has happened to the goods, but as this vendor has a good rep here, I don't want to unnecessarily smudge his reputation, considering his previous excellent delivery service.

If I be him here, people will think;
 "a missing package from xxxxx? Not gonna risk ordering from him then!"

Sorry. Not gonna risk tarnishing a good vendor on the basis of one missing package.