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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Grizzly421 on February 04, 2013, 03:32 am

Title: Ordering international
Post by: Grizzly421 on February 04, 2013, 03:32 am
I just placed my first international order and I'm a bit nervous about it. It is UK to US. Am I right to be skittish. It is a small order so losing it is not as nerve racking as ruining my recieving address
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: amethyst on February 04, 2013, 03:34 am
UK is a non-drug producing country so you should be ok as long as the product is well packaged
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: Grizzly421 on February 04, 2013, 03:36 am
Thanks. Any idea how long shipping takes?
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: headhunted on February 04, 2013, 03:41 am
I'm pretty weary of ordering internationally as well, but that's what fake names are for.

I've ordered things (to Canada) from the UK before from different websites and they usually say 7 - 21 business days, and usually come in around 10
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: DrugBuddy on February 04, 2013, 03:51 am
The only way people in AU have been busted by LE is via international customs.

Just food for thought.

Your DrugBuddy.
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: Grizzly421 on February 04, 2013, 03:57 am
Damn it tell me it's perfectly fine and I have no reason to worry, I lie to me. I I've already placed the order so now I'm just trying to put my mind at ease.
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: headhunted on February 04, 2013, 04:07 am
If your name isn't on the package, all you have to do is say you have no idea what it is IF you do get in trouble
But from what I understand it's pretty rare that they open a package at random, the package needs to be suspicious (sounds/smells of drugs)

I'm sure the vendor you used will package it inconspicuously and you'll be fine
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: Grizzly421 on February 04, 2013, 04:11 am
Thank you
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: National Direct on February 04, 2013, 04:38 am
If your name isn't on the package, all you have to do is say you have no idea what it is IF you do get in trouble
But from what I understand it's pretty rare that they open a package at random, the package needs to be suspicious (sounds/smells of drugs)

I'm sure the vendor you used will package it inconspicuously and you'll be fine

I will never personally support this "suspicious" act of  simply not writing your name and denying ordering/expecting anything on that basis. I will always use my real name. I have had a seized product from the UK to Canada and many following ones arrived with no trouble at all in 7-10 days. Priority and Express/EMS options arouse the most suspicion, so try to use standard mail internationally, especially with new vendors. I've spoken to many people who've had int'l seizure in Canada and simply received a letter detailing the report of the seizure (the CBSA's protocol seems to ships back to the return address; although I'm not sure where it ended up in many of the cases I've heard).

Again, I'm sorry for apply my knowledge of Canadian importing as opposed to the US, but I can truly say that I have seen 10+ seizure letters from people importing here that got seized and only received communication as a generic letter, with the Controlled Substances Act + Schedule # that made it illegal to import, the due process for claiming a controlled substance that you are legally allowed to import, requiring the presentation of proof. From 120 day supplies of prescription pills to MDMA (1oz), ketamine (2g), heroin (7g in a chunk. I don't know what fool did that, but I can't blame Tony76 cuz he shipped within Canada). Although your own subjective reasoning may vary, all of these packages could be considered for personal use, and it would be way too much work to chase after end-users of drugs at a federal level when they are clearly not buying quantities enough to flip very much over a $1000 revenue per package. Think they're a dealer at these amounts? a distributor to friends at most.

I've read similar topics regarding this a while back, and the DEA is always mentioned as an agency that changes the game in the USA, as you guys have a large task force out to prosecute for drugs at almost all levels. I say use your real name, and if questioned personally or via a letter for an amount exceeding ~5 doses (estimation), you should stop using that address for imports immediately. If you are met in person, don't shoot your mouth of in over-confidence of your control over the situation. act a bit concerned, remain stable and "keep it real" while you talk. IF you can't do this, get a lawyer right away! I'm not 100% sure, but you could freak out from a visit from the cops and use a defense of mentally delusional, or under stress from someone trying to extort you on the internet. That's for your lawyer to figure out anyway, which probly won't happen... But you gotta do your due diligence, or they'll do their's!  :(

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Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: Psychedelic Oatmeal on February 04, 2013, 04:48 am
Posting to share my concern...getting some MDMA from the Netherlands, I'm scurred. If I have a package coming from Canada, Ireland and Netherlands in a short period of time will that seem sketchy?
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: Generation Y on February 04, 2013, 05:23 am
Posting to share my concern...getting some MDMA from the Netherlands, I'm scurred. If I have a package coming from Canada, Ireland and Netherlands in a short period of time will that seem sketchy?
I don't think customs would keep a record of what address normal packages (ones that aren't seized) are going to, so it shouldn't do. However I wouldn't personally order from the netherlands, as everything I've ordered from their has been seized. Because its a known drug producing country customs tend to pay more attention to mail from there.
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: omnis on February 04, 2013, 06:13 am
i hope you are doin fine!
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: omnis on February 04, 2013, 06:14 am
oh and dont get too paranoid about orders  8)
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: omnis on February 04, 2013, 06:15 am
its not healthy  ;)
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: omnis on February 04, 2013, 06:17 am
and most of the time things turn out to be fine.
but if you have nothing illegal in your home ;) ...
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: omnis on February 04, 2013, 06:18 am
... that would be ideal!  8)
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 04, 2013, 06:59 am
The only way people in AU have been busted by LE is via international customs.

Just food for thought.

Your DrugBuddy.

The same applies globally, importing a restricted substance attracts stiffer penalties irrespective of where you live

The only two SR related arrests in AU were two very low hanging fruit just asking to be nicked with the most recent case having ordered multiple times to his home address in his own name, and that's just the tip of the stupidity iceberg for this individual. The other was also nicked due to his IRL activities and not SR, he just told them all about SR after he was raided, as I said low hanging fruit.

I am in no way saying ordering o/s isn't risky because you need to take precautions. I would say the UK to US route is reasonably safe given the volume of mail between the two and the fact the UK generally isn't flagged as drug producing country. A vendor using good stealth should avoid any issues but there are no absolutes here.

If however I lived in the US I would have all the drugs I could possible want domestically so would have no need to risk an o/s order.

I strongly suggest you do your research thoroughly and have safe drop arrangements.
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: UnWizard on February 04, 2013, 07:18 am
you should take a deep breath and relax, the community is love
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: frapp on February 04, 2013, 08:23 am
Posting to share my concern...getting some MDMA from the Netherlands, I'm scurred. If I have a package coming from Canada, Ireland and Netherlands in a short period of time will that seem sketchy?

Doubtful, people get post every day from all over the world.
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: National Direct on February 05, 2013, 12:15 am
Apparently packaging from NL has vastly improved for the bigger vendors over the past year because of seizures. This doesn't change the fact that mail from NL is a red flag in most countries. Personally, I would pay a bit extra to order from another, less suspect country.
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: Psychedelic Oatmeal on February 05, 2013, 02:04 am
Apparently packaging from NL has vastly improved for the bigger vendors over the past year because of seizures. This doesn't change the fact that mail from NL is a red flag in most countries. Personally, I would pay a bit extra to order from another, less suspect country.

Thankfully it was a free sample to the nice and generous Emonkey :)
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: boomer1932 on February 05, 2013, 02:24 am
Yeah the Netherlands is definitely red flagged by many countries, including the US, UK, AUS, and CAN.  For the US, CAN is a flagged country too because of the availability of safarole oil.  A good amount of America's MDMA comes from Canada.

I always go domestic now.  The only thing I'll order internationally is LSD on blotter, because it is, after all, just paper.  I'm sure every now and then an LSD shipment gets caught up, but I would be willing to bet that's due to something like a false name, incorrect address, sketchy packaging, or a watched return address.  As long as the vendor is reputable and you use your real name and address, there shouldn't be any problems.
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: ddfc66 on February 05, 2013, 11:03 pm
you will be fine
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: green1423 on February 05, 2013, 11:20 pm
Stay domestic if possible.
Title: Re: Ordering international
Post by: MP5TK on February 05, 2013, 11:24 pm
is pound your ass prison worth a few extra dollars?