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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: ConcernedLSD on November 21, 2012, 09:24 pm
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before i start, please remember that any time a vendor has gone rogue - the vendors fans would come to the aid of anyone raising concerns and swear and freak out on the person.. please really think about what i am going to tell you
1. jor was selling 93ug lsd that lab tested by avengers at 51ug and 56ug.. he claimed it was because of packaging but even cling wrap packaging will not make u lose half of the lsd.. he must have known they were going to test horrible because he even tried to get avengers not to release the lab results by posting in the thread something along the lines of "sorry i wasted ur time, i have a different batch now so i will send you new tabs to test"
now he has lsd tabs listed on sr with the title "100 tab |65ug| lab tested by avengers" . avengers have never lab tested any of his lsd at 65ug. look at the thread if you dont believe me
2. JOR and JIMMY BUFFET are the same person. I cant believe u guys havent noticed that... my guess is that he is planning on turnin rogue scammer on the jor account and then continue vending on JIMMY BUFFET account..
jor is not a stupid guy. do u seriously think he would be stupid enough to discuss publicly about how him and jimmy buffet both get their lsd from the same connection? they talked about it numerous times in the thread.. do u think a vendor doing something as serious as vending bulk drugs on SR would tell some random guy on SR that they both pick up drugs from the same person? of course not because the other guy could hand him over as a bargaining chip if he was ever arrested. they only did that because jor and jimmy buffet are the same person.. jor would never be stupid enough to confirm in public and not even pgp private message that he and jimmy had the same supplier
you think it is some huge coincidence that there are 2 vendors offering liquid shipping from the UK with the exact same supplier? has that ever happened in the history of SR?
you dont think its suspicious that jimmy buffet and jor have the same supplier, but jimmy can offer cheaper prices on vials? its because he wants to build jimmys reputation so when he goes rogue he can continue selling on jimmys account and already have customers ready and ordering..
how would it be possible that jimmy is getting better prices from the same supplier as jor when jor is moving so much more weight and is a top vendor? it's not possible. they are the same person.
my idea so you guys dont get fucked over: never finalize early. dont buy anything from them until they have their stuff lab tested and confirmed.
its like SR never learns to notice these red flags and a huge scam happens every once in a while..
be safe everyone
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youll also notice that as soon as jors lab results came back so bad he changed the terms of his sale to "free for all as soon as they go up" from a limit per customer before.. probably because he wants people to panic buy them out of fear they will miss out , before people really start to notice that it is garbage lsd
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Prospective from another vendor here.
I did some messaging with JOR and he was nothing but upfront and honest about everything we talked about.
I don't feel the need to go into detail here but the dude is straight up. He works closely with the LSD Avengers and lists the correct doses. What more could you ask from a vendor?
He seems like a stand up vendor to me. I haven't even bought anything from him.
Edit: Also everything is done with escrow... How could this benefit him if he were to go rouge?
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UMMMMM incorrect, Mr. OP. I've exchanged many words with each INDIVIDUAL, and I lent Jimmy Buffett the coins he needed in order to purchase a vendor's account. He JUST opened it within the last 20 minutes.
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If he was asking for FE i might believe you but he seems a straight up guy and the lsd is good quality..
Also dropper bottles of lsd are quite common in the UK if you know the right people.
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You couldnt be farther from the truth my friend ;D
Peace and safety
Jimmy B
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Honestly, I'm all for warning the community about possible scams on the horizon, but this seems like base speculation to me. Every one of your points could be countered by another interpretation, equally based on the evidence, and which lead to a completely opposite conclusion
Dosage, for instance. JOR was told by his supplier that the Lotus tabs were ~100ug, all trip reports (including mine) seemed to justify that statement. But the lab testing showed, at least for the tabs that were tested, gave a much lower number. So JOR updates his listings to reflect that. JOR was told by his supplier that the new batch was laid 10% stronger, so that's why he went with 65ug instead of what the lab came back as. Does anyone remember (it was just a few weeks ago), how EnterTheMatrix handled his run in with the Avengers? Anyway, JOR handled it how I, as a buyer, would prefer. Gets points in my book, here.
And honestly your second point doesn't make much sense to me. You've obviously never read through any of the main LSD threads on the forum. There's tons of talk about different vendors selling the same product. Happens all the time with LSD. Another theory, which equally (and I'd say better) fits the evidence, is that Jimmy Buffet has access to the same product, and is willing to take a hit on profit by selling the vials for less in order to establish himself as a vendor. That's why he's running a discount for the first week or so, and then raising his prices to closer match what JOR is selling them for after the initial period. So no, there's nothing inherently suspicious about any of the things you bring up. If JOR knew another person had access to the same product as was getting set up to sell on SR, JOR has shown himself to be the kind of guy that would help that person out, as opposed to being a dick and ignore or try to corner the market by dicking the guy around.
I watch developments like these super closely, I just don't see anything real here. I mean, JOR DOESN'T REQUIRE FE! Just seems like a lot of conclusions are being jumped to without any real evidence. Just slightly half baked speculation.
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Honestly, I'm all for warning the community about possible scams on the horizon, but this seems like base speculation to me. Every one of your points could be countered by another interpretation, equally based on the evidence, and which lead to a completely opposite conclusion
Dosage, for instance. JOR was told by his supplier that the Lotus tabs were ~100ug, all trip reports (including mine) seemed to justify that statement. But the lab testing showed, at least for the tabs that were tested, gave a much lower number. So JOR updates his listings to reflect that. JOR was told by his supplier that the new batch was laid 10% stronger, so that's why he went with 65ug instead of what the lab came back as. Does anyone remember (it was just a few weeks ago), how EnterTheMatrix handled his run in with the Avengers? Anyway, JOR handled it how I, as a buyer, would prefer. Gets points in my book, here.
And honestly your second point doesn't make much sense to me. You've obviously never read through any of the main LSD threads on the forum. There's tons of talk about different vendors selling the same product. Happens all the time with LSD. Another theory, which equally (and I'd say better) fits the evidence, is that Jimmy Buffet has access to the same product, and is willing to take a hit on profit by selling the vials for less in order to establish himself as a vendor. That's why he's running a discount for the first week or so, and then raising his prices to closer match what JOR is selling them for after the initial period. So no, there's nothing inherently suspicious about any of the things you bring up. If JOR knew another person had access to the same product as was getting set up to sell on SR, JOR has shown himself to be the kind of guy that would help that person out, as opposed to being a dick and ignore or try to corner the market by dicking the guy around.
I watch developments like these super closely, I just don't see anything real here. I mean, JOR DOESN'T REQUIRE FE! Just seems like a lot of conclusions are being jumped to without any real evidence. Just slightly half baked speculation.
A far more likely description of reality than the speculative nonsense that started this thread. If JOR has none of the stock left that the Avengers was testing, of course he was wasting his time. Why does he need a measure for a product he's not selling?! What he wants is an accurate measure for his new stock so he can be up front with his customers about what he is selling them. How is that not obvious? From my interactions with JOR and seeing how he does business, I've no doubt that this is the case. I've also no doubt your speculation won't gain any traction here.
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I'm all for these advance warning threads, but this is uncalled for to be honest and complete speculation, in 60 pages on his thread I dont think this guy has had a bad thing said about him credit where credits due he has worked his way up to the most legit vendor here at the moment. If he starts asking people to FE and they get scammed then to be honest they shouldnt of FE'ed in the first place. There is no reason to FE the escrow system is here to be used.
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I ordered 25 tabskis from JOR 6 days ago, I'll update soon enough ;)
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ugh, i have the money to blow, but i don't wanna burn a drop point.... just in case you know.....JB i hope you are legit man !!!! i always wanted a fatty bottle of LSD
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I have had 3 successful orders with JoR, doubt hes scamming
Jimmy just seems fake as shit
my 2cents
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Sorry OP but this makes no sense.
JB reads very different from JOR and if JOR was about to go rogue, why would he remove his listings for vials which have already been vouched for and which could have been his really big golden cow if he wanted to get a large amount of FE and disappear. If they are the same he certainly made his chance of collecting a large amount of FE way smaller by that move.
What we much more likely have is a new vendor trying to gain some (hopefully not umdeserved) credibility by associating himself with JOR. There are several oddities about the way JB set up shop. It may be just beginners inexperience, it may be that he is selling stuff he does not actually have yet or it may be more sinister, we will see in the coming weeks. Until products are seen to arrive and verified legit - tread with caution.
What we also have is an established vendor JOR - worried that he will need to compete on price and trying to fix prices. Probably even more worried now it turned out his blotter products were not as strong as he thought/claimed they were, leaving him "just another vendor" rather than "the man with the product".
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Fuck me what passes for fact on here amazes me, alert the community when you have a legitimate complaint or some FACTS, the amount of pure speculation that gets banded about only hurts this community. My two cents.
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I ordered 25 tabskis from JOR 6 days ago, I'll update soon enough ;)
Why would you bump this crap thread to post that info? Just post your update to JOR's thread, and let this one die (it was already a week dead when you bumped it ::) )
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too right samesame
you think it is some huge coincidence that there are 2 vendors offering liquid shipping from the UK with the exact same supplier? has that ever happened in the history of SR?
LMAO
YOU truly think that a suppliers product cannot end up in different parts of the same country. good argument man
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any updates on this jor and jimmy buffet panic? i ordered from jimmy a bit ago and will update on if it comes through and my subjective experience of the strength of the trip
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no one knows anything about jimmy, however, everyone who ordered from the most recent lotus batch from JOR has been receiving them. JOR is not a scammer, as for Jimmy, he said he sent out the first batch of vials, so only time will tell.