Silk Road forums
Support => Feature requests => Topic started by: Mercury31 on November 13, 2012, 12:15 am
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Isnt there a way to change the escrow system
Like if the vendor doesnt trust the customer he can ask 50% FE instead of 100%
also isnt there a way to make a customer rating just as they rate your product
this way vendors can rate customers and get less scammers.
I dont know if these ideas allready where on the forum.
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I think that vendor feedback about buyers could be very helpful to vendors. Especially for the vendors that don't get on the forums as much, this way they would know who the problem buyers are before they become a problem for them too. Something kind of like what ebay has would be cool.
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I think that vendor feedback about buyers could be very helpful to vendors. Especially for the vendors that don't get on the forums as much, this way they would know who the problem buyers are before they become a problem for them too. Something kind of like what ebay has would be cool.
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Isnt there a way to change the escrow system
Like if the vendor doesnt trust the customer he can ask 50% FE instead of 100%
please go through this topic :
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=46854.0
50% FE becomes a 50% advance. Different terminology, but the idea is the same.
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Isnt there a way to change the escrow system
Like if the vendor doesnt trust the customer he can ask 50% FE instead of 100%
please go through this topic :
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=46854.0
50% FE becomes a 50% advance. Different terminology, but the idea is the same.
thanks daydreamer couldnt fint a topic about it
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Isnt there a way to change the escrow system
Like if the vendor doesnt trust the customer he can ask 50% FE instead of 100%
also isnt there a way to make a customer rating just as they rate your product
this way vendors can rate customers and get less scammers.
I dont know if these ideas allready where on the forum.
With regards to customer ratings in principle I think that would be a good idea, buyer credibility is often only backed up by their forum profile and purchasing stats and the two are not necessarily linked as many like to keep them separate. Of course some vendors automatically unfairly call some buyers scammers etc when disputes arise the same as some buyers do to vendors. Anything that helps improve the situation though is a good thing as there are a small number of people causing issues for the many, not sure if that will ever be totally rooted out though.
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YES! Someone put this in the feature requests.
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hi all just discovered this wonderland this evening ;D dont know how to make a deposit can anyone help me out please ... thanks in advance
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hi all just discovered this wonderland this evening ;D dont know how to make a deposit can anyone help me out please ... thanks in advance
Please use the search button, lots of info is on these forums. Many went before you and got their questions answered already. I spent a month researching before I put in my first order.
Not to be mean, but people here want you to put in effort. You posting in this unrelated thread doesn't show that you are thinking this through. Good luck and welcome to the road!
Edit: How could I forget the wiki?! http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
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Isnt there a way to change the escrow system
Like if the vendor doesnt trust the customer he can ask 50% FE instead of 100%
please go through this topic :
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=46854.0
50% FE becomes a 50% advance. Different terminology, but the idea is the same.
As I said on the other thread: Yes! I think that this is an excellent idea!
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Isnt there a way to change the escrow system
Like if the vendor doesnt trust the customer he can ask 50% FE instead of 100%
please go through this topic :
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=46854.0
50% FE becomes a 50% advance. Different terminology, but the idea is the same.
As I said on the other thread: Yes! I think that this is an excellent idea!
Thanks for the support!!
I am just wondering, how do i generate more interest in people about this? Also, does anyone know who are the mods who keep checking up on feature requests?
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Isnt there a way to change the escrow system
Like if the vendor doesnt trust the customer he can ask 50% FE instead of 100%
please go through this topic :
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=46854.0
50% FE becomes a 50% advance. Different terminology, but the idea is the same.
As I said on the other thread: Yes! I think that this is an excellent idea!
Thanks for the support!!
I am just wondering, how do i generate more interest in people about this? Also, does anyone know who are the mods who keep checking up on feature requests?
i think its inigo?
most mods are spambusters?
i think inigo and dpr are the ones that can change things in sr
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Isnt there a way to change the escrow system
Like if the vendor doesnt trust the customer he can ask 50% FE instead of 100%
also isnt there a way to make a customer rating just as they rate your product
this way vendors can rate customers and get less scammers.
I dont know if these ideas allready where on the forum.
I'm no vendor so i dont know the rules and restrictions BUT...,
Maybe it can currently be done like this :
you can cancel an order from someone you choose not to trust and message him a hidden order where you split the total cost between shipment and product and require him to FE shipping or get lost.
Personally i support both ideas. In my book a vendor should be able todo what he wants FE, refuse whatever.
The road itself should advertise their beliefs and recommendations on FE etc more actively imo.
FE: guiding new buyer to the forums, you cant buy prior to reading and signing a mission statement/agreement form.
Another forum i know has newbies restricted to the newbie forum. You cant leave that section and make trades before you have made 5 posts and spent 4 hours actively browsing the forum. If you just keep logged in the clock doesnt count you need to be clicking.
Inside are all the important stickies and guides to help you get started.
I know this will require (alot of) work(, in my mind this newby forum is divided into diff languages ;-) .)
Someone or bodies will have to take charge, discuss and put some work into these guides.
Biggest problem will most likely be the coding, but this is a fairly large community i'm sure dogooders can be found (im a dreamer not a do'er dont ask hehehe).
This way the weak are educated or ignorant by choice...
good coke has me going creative lol
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in my opinion to be able to agree to a percentage of refund before going into Escrow is almost a sine qua non. I cannot belief its not implemented and its the reason i do things out of escrow. Because i cannot expose myself to that uncertainty of what the resolution of an escrow dispute is going to be, i agree to refund every buyer 40% in case of problems. I just use the btc transfer system inside silkroad directly to a user. Up until now practically everybody has gotten refunded.
of course valuable statistics about buyer and seller behaviour is missing in the feedback system, but i cannot let escrow be something vague. I looked on the forum for the guidelines and rules on how escrow disputes are handled. (A lawbook if you will). I couldn't find anything.
My position is this: I sell to riskhy countries that i want to have at least 6 months experience with before i start commiting whole batches of orders to escrow.
I am asking for a singular effectively non technical solution to a problem, namely agree to the terms of resolution beforehand instead of when the shit has hit the fan. This way everybody can hedge their exposure and its better for everybody.
SR staff don't need to judge situations because buyer and seller already have agreed on the resolution of the scenario that the package got lost. In this case, the buyer has researched the seller's feedback and vice versa, so it presupposes trust that parties will be truthful with regards to shipping and receiving the package. Otherwise, you shouldn't be doing busines anyway
It might also be done outside of SR, if SR staff is willing to make certain cryptographic 'contracts' where these statements are recorded and the proof of agreement is done through a system of cryptography where it can be determined by silkroad easily that buyer and vendor agreed on this concerning the involved transaction that was placed on said date.
If Silkroad can consistently follow those agreements, supposed they are too simple to be open for interprettaion, you would have such a system already. Legally binding contracts that can serve as perhaps at the start only a number from 1 to 100 indicating the amount the buyer and seller have agreed on to refund.
The benefits are obvious
* I can adjust my risk exposure and fine tune it to the current situation and inexperience with certain destinations methods etc. But also offer more guarantees by agreeing to 100% refund for return customers and 'good' addresses. I can still send to packstations and dropoff points by only refunding 10% or nothing at all through the cryptocontract i set up with the buyer.
* There is much less reason not to use escrow, feedback will be more representative as a result,
* Its less work for SR mediators as if they can define the format and possible content of the binding cryptocontract for escrow resolution then they won't be presented by complicated deals, but perhaps only to implement the before agreed perecentaige of the refund, That alone is enough to enhance the system.
I truly can see no negative sides to this situation, just less uncertainty in that uncertain business of ours,
yours,
max
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