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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Dutchaanbod on August 31, 2012, 01:03 pm
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Revieuw topic :
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Im interested in bulk of the coke but the many reviews about non-arrivals is putting me off. Can anyone comment on his packaging out of 10? (not methods obviously)
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We use a new type of package's so the old one we don use nomore
greats Dutchaanbod
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WE GIVE 20% EXTRA on all MDMA ORDERS FROM 02-08-2012 till 09-09-2012 !!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/8cfa29972d
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Hey,happy to see you back on the road!You don't know i am but i've appreciated your C flakes prices/quality...I think to see you soon.
FM.
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Sorry if I'm mistaken but weren't you shipping from Germany at one point?
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We did before but only with bulk order we probably gonna add this option later for all order
greats Dutchaanbod
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Sorry if I'm mistaken but weren't you shipping from Germany at one point?
I believe PF was putting his coke from Germany before it all went wrong
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PF is a German guy so all his orders where send out of germany
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Escrow?
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pgp?
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It need to be in escrow otherwise i give no refund when the package's will not arrive,
So finalize early is at your own risk :)
The pgp key you can see in my profile,
DA
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It need to be in escrow otherwise i give no refund when the package's will not arrive,
So finalize early is at your own risk :)
The pgp key you can see in my profile,
DA
it wasn't there when i made the post. glad you put it back though. i'll list you in the coke thread in a few, when i do the updates
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Yeah that's good :)
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Great stuff on the Germany option, i will place my order now.
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Hi
Tracking we use standard on 50gr + orders,
With some days we will ad an extra option for tracking for all orders
Greats Dutchaanbod
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What's his MDMA quality like? I keep seeing stuff about his coke but not much about MDMA
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Tracking option is now available for all orders,
+ pics of the cocaine are add,
greats Dutchaanbod
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the pics of the coke looks nice! what can you say about the purity?
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Anybody order MDMA yet?
Pricing on 10g is great, and no FE. Sounds good.
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the pics of the coke looks nice! what can you say about the purity?
Purity will be around the 80% +
Its coming right from kg bricks
Greats Dutchaanbod
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is shipping out from Germany priority and can you ship out of Germany all the time?
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Hi Dutch
Thanks for bringing these products to the marketplace, it is much appreciated.
I want to place an order for 50gram mdma but I do have a couple of questions:
1) Your last set of packages did not turn up for some people. Was this a packaging issue, are the new orders different?
2) Is the MDMA all rock? I got some MDMA from PF and it was great but lots of dust which made it harder to sell
Cheers!
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would like to make an order just waiting on news of improved shipping. And no one seems to know if its good?
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We send the package's 2/3 times a week out from Germany,
package's are very stealth there are package's on the way now so there will be come review's fast
The last set that not arrive has to do with the issues when PF had take it over from us,
We send it ass little rocks because we need to crush the big rocks for the package's we use,
Greats Dutchaanbod
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glad you are back. Had some lovely C from you before and if I have the right feeling the mandy will be top notch, too.
will order soon.
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Interested to see some feedback on the MDMA.
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Purchased some MDMA from Dutch a couple of days ago. I'll update when it arrives
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AH is down for the weekend and I'm a little sketched with the feedback.
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Hey Dutch.. I used to use pf when you didn't ship to US so glad to see you are.. I am waiting on a decent amount from AH but think I will give you a shot very soon... my question is though you said there is a tracked option now but all I see is an international option and its like 30 bucks?? is that tracked, so all international are tracked then??
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Hi
We ship all order above the 50gr with tracking,
Shipping from Germany is more expensive because we have to let it drive to there,
Greats
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Is a signature required if shipped from Germany?
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Dutchaanbod's current feedback on his seller account are showing a bunch of missing packages with no responses. I'll hold off for now :o
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No signing is not required,
Missing order is from PF has take it over most have receive there refund from PF acount and have not update it,
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Oh what the hell, i'll give him a shot. Will order now and update here in the thread when it comes.
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sorry for the cross post if you already checked the other thread but,
Do you have any more pictures of the MDMA?
I might be interested. :)
Also why no 50g order :( that seems like a pretty standard increment. (yes I see the part about just doing 10x5)
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Waiting on my coins and will be placing an order :)
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sorry for the cross post if you already checked the other thread but,
Do you have any more pictures of the MDMA?
I might be interested. :)
Also why no 50g order :( that seems like a pretty standard increment. (yes I see the part about just doing 10x5)
Its because our price's are already low!
The price i give the 10gr for is the normal price for minimum 50gr,
i can add the 50gr listing but then it will be the same price :)
i will upload some more pictures with some days,
Greats Dutchaanbod
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just ordered 2 x 10 grams mdma with shipping from germany, look forward to my extra 20%.
will update when arrived, first order with dutch :)
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thread/product/vendor updates?
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Going thru Dutch's seller info and dont see anything about FE... is early FE required?
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Going thru Dutch's seller info and dont see anything about FE... is early FE required?
From his profile:
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Don['t] finalize early !!!
When you will do it there will be no refund [if] the package [does] not arrive
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shit, I'll give Dutchaanbod a try...will update on quality and shipping time when/if it arrives. shouldn't be a problem w/the German shipping option I hope! can post some reaction pics too hopefully.
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I think I read somewhere that the MDMA was green, any truth behind this?
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can anyone comment on his quality of mdma
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hopefully someone gets their order and has a forum account so they could comment.
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this sounds great cant wait for a review iam looking to order 100grams.
from some one
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Giving him a try. Put "in transit" very quickly, so looking good.
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Hi all
there are around 50 orders on the way so reviews will follow fast :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
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i went with Dutchaanbod as well. maybe by some miracle i can have it by friday. will definitely review, when i get it.
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yea if this shit makes it to the US i'm going with Dutch from now on... AH is taking forever on shipping and not looking good right now and ST is pretty damn pricey and also with his new shipping from Germany seems like it should be a lot better than what people are saying about times!! I'm pulling for you Dutch ;) fuck I would go for it now if I didn't have missing packs so might have to switch drops unfortunately....
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HI everyone!
I ordered 20g (2X10g) of dutchaanbod's MDMA last Friday. The package arrived today to somewhere in EU, quite well dissimulated. Vacuum sealed bags, weighted 23g, which is appreciated.
The product is withe to a light brown. Smell is not strong but as the distinguishable bitter of the MDMA. According to two of my friends who tried the product (snorted), this is a very good batch, producing a very good roll.
So, I would definitely recommend dutchaanbod as a trusted seller.
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HI everyone!
I ordered 20g (2X10g) of dutchaanbod's MDMA last Friday. The package arrived today to somewhere in EU, quite well dissimulated. Vacuum sealed bags, weighted 23g, which is appreciated.
The product is withe to a light brown. Smell is not strong but as the distinguishable bitter of the MDMA. According to two of my friends who tried the product (snorted), this is a very good batch, producing a very good roll.
So, I would definitely recommend dutchaanbod as a trusted seller.
Was kinda % of rocks to powder was it?
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has someone ordered his coke and tried? :)
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HI everyone!
I ordered 20g (2X10g) of dutchaanbod's MDMA last Friday. The package arrived today to somewhere in EU, quite well dissimulated. Vacuum sealed bags, weighted 23g, which is appreciated.
The product is withe to a light brown. Smell is not strong but as the distinguishable bitter of the MDMA. According to two of my friends who tried the product (snorted), this is a very good batch, producing a very good roll.
So, I would definitely recommend dutchaanbod as a trusted seller.
thanks for posting
did you order from germany or netherlands? and also would like to know about rocks
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I ordered my 10gs from Dutchaa this afternoon, first buy with him, in time of 20% extra hehe... Im just wating for the transit status... I will update when the pakage arrives & upload some pictures of the MD...hopefully arrive correctly, and I can describe my trip report...
Cheers!!
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Going to place an order with dutchaanbod soon..i was a PF customer so im going to keep it all in the family. Hopefully these orders workout as well
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Was kinda % of rocks to powder was it?
thanks for posting
did you order from germany or netherlands? and also would like to know about rocks
I ordered from Germany.
Concerning the % of rocks and powder, I would say it's 70% powder and 30% small rocks. I assume it had to be crushed that way to be as stealth as possible.
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Will be ordering for a friend once reviews pop up. Looking forward to it :) Since PF's stuff came on the quickness
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Hi, ordered 1G of coke today, from Germany. Waiting for it to go into transit now, will be back with a review later.
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Hi, ordered 1G of coke today, from Germany. Waiting for it to go into transit now, will be back with a review later.
Intrigued to hear your review :)
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Hello,
I have ordered 10g of coke right now, i will give you a feedback a soon as possible.
I was taking coke to him before and during is absence i had to buy to SuperTrips who never disappointed me but Dutch too it's why i give him a shot :)
I hope this batch is really good because his price are good hihihi
Skunk!
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I ordered 1g coke and will report back after the test :)
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10g of MDMA in transit :)
If the coke turns out to be good that'll be my next order.
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I put in an MDMA order, shipped within 24 hours of placing the order. I'll report back with a review when it shows.
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A lot of people are asking about the coke - I've not tried the current batch but for what it's worth I ordered from Dutchaanbod a few months ago and was very pleased with the quality.
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holy fuck that's cheap mdma...
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holy fuck that's cheap mdma...
I know, I think it's the cheapest MDMA on the Road right now and it's not from NL. Sounds almost too good to be true. I'm trying to shop around to find the best deal on 5 grams.
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holy fuck that's cheap mdma...
I know, I think it's the cheapest MDMA on the Road right now and it's not from NL. Sounds almost too good to be true. I'm trying to shop around to find the best deal on 5 grams.
Just put an order in.
He also doesnt require FE. Whats the worst that could happen?
I was happy with PFs stuff and i think Dutch and PF worked together, so i know ill be happy with this stuff.
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holy fuck that's cheap mdma...
I know, I think it's the cheapest MDMA on the Road right now and it's not from NL. Sounds almost too good to be true. I'm trying to shop around to find the best deal on 5 grams.
Just put an order in.
He also doesnt require FE. Whats the worst that could happen?
I was happy with PFs stuff and i think Dutch and PF worked together, so i know ill be happy with this stuff.
Yea, fuck it. I'm ordering. Lol.
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Hi
Don be worry on the quality the quality is top like i say before 80% +
So its pure MDMA ,We stand for low price's and high quality :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
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I'd like to order a 1g or 5g sample first, but I think the shipping price is a bit too high.
I understand, that you have to bring the stuff from NL to GER, but why is the price so high even for lower amounts?
Ahhh, and greetings fly out to PF (I really think you and PF are using this account for a joint business ;-) - I would welcome this!)
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We use very stealth package's and that cost us already 1,5 BTC
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Ok, I respect that! And I think it's ok to pay a few more bucks for higher security. Thanks for the fast answer!
And I interpret your silence as silent approval regarding to my "DA&PF joint business" theory! ;)
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And I interpret your silence as silent approval regarding to my "DA&PF joint business" theory! ;)
lulz! same product, same country, on pf's thread he said several times they were 'associates'
One in the same? maybe. who cares though, PF was AMAZING!
This thread is about to blow the fuck up once these orders start getting 5/5 and reviews start coming in, Just hope that Dutchaanbod can keep up with the demand he's about to encounter here shortly!
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And I interpret your silence as silent approval regarding to my "DA&PF joint business" theory! ;)
lulz! same product, same country, on pf's thread he said several times they were 'associates'
One in the same? maybe. who cares though, PF was AMAZING!
This thread is about to blow the fuck up once these orders start getting 5/5 and reviews start coming in, Just hope that Dutchaanbod can keep up with the demand he's about to encounter here shortly!
Agreed. :)
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still waiting in processing. send the orders out dutch!
please ;)
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i also ordered a small order yesterday. still processing but he did quickly answer a question that i had. i read lousy reviews of AH mdma but i am curious, AH states that his mdma is from PF and if this guys in cahoots with PF......wouldnt it likely be the same product?? hmmmmm couldnt care less long as its good and arrives. i also ordered a very large amount of supertrips mdma for re-sale on my vendors page us to us so i will compare the mdma and let u guys know.
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Just had a delivery from the man - its good to have you back mate :D
Good comms and niiiice coke at a reasonable price. Top banana
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To all people that think PF is still in the game he's not :)
He have stop with SR hes only a good friend of us,
Greats DA
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We use very stealth package's and that cost us already 1,5 BTC
Greats Dutchaanbod
How's your stealth dutch? Triple vacuum sealed? I'm thinking about a 250g or 500g mdma order to the US but before you left I saw you were having a lot of problems.
Also wondering about how stealthy the shipping is.
If a package was inspected would they easily see the illicit substances (100g MDMA)? Or is it somehow concealed? I remember PF's packaging being a bit lackluster.
Does anyone (including Dutch) have an opinion on shipping to a college campus address in the US? Any info on the risk/deniability in the instance would be appreciated.
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Does anyone (including Dutch) have an opinion on shipping to a college campus address in the US? Any info on the risk/deniability in the instance would be appreciated.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=42266.0;topicseen
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Can anybody else not log onto his vendor page? Keeps refreshing me back to the homepage after several attempts and manually entering the URL...
No problems here mate!
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still nobody here who has already received the coke and who can give some helpful feedback? ???
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Hey all, I ordered 2.5g of coke before DA left which never arrived. I was really pissed as it seemed he was not coming back. So, upon return, I contacted DA and explained the situation. He kindly offered a 50% refund which is more than I expected due to my location. When DA notified me he will be dispatching the goods he also said it will be for 2g coke. This was of course a pleasant surprise.
I'll report back here when it arrives (or not). Either way, I think DA done well to remedy the situation and I will change my feedback from 1/5 to 5/5 as he has now fulfilled his part of the deal and made up for the lack of contact during his time away.
Thanks DA
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Hello,
I have order 50g from AH and i was pretty happy with is mdma.
They had a lot of big rock i thing 50% big rock,30%little rock 20% powder.
Someone knows of much rock there is in Dutch mdma? I'm very interesting of buying 100g
Thank you
Skunk
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Arrived today my order of 10g, overwieghted 1.0 hehe....
Very good package, stealthy and professional.Quick delivery...3days only to somewhere of eu!!
In this moment i feel very high, i take only 100mg and i feel on the clouds 8) 8) 8)
Thank you brother, this shit is amazing!!!
One pic of the stuff!!!
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=33e47422e77cdc35e0bf86f3042b25aa.jpg
Highly recomended, trusted seller!!
Cheers!!
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still nobody here who has already received the coke and who can give some helpful feedback? ???
it's very good coke mate - i was smashed when i wrote that post yesterday, but it was about the coke. definitely zero levamisole but i reckon a touch of mannitol in there because my first couple of lines made me bust for a shit straight away. i honestly doubt it's dutch's cut though, just by looking at the gear i honestly reckon he cuts it off the brick to shove straight into our parcels. still, i reckon it's in the 80% range so i can handle shitting like a cunt for that sort of a buzz :)
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Duke
U try his prev batch before pfander took over?
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yes mate. gears in the same league. packagings better :)
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Thanks mate
Yeah it was good then it all went to pieces mite get an order in
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yeah i was a bit dubious after seeing the last few feedbacks before he disappeared, but i give it a shot and it was nothing but plain sailing. like i said - the coke does make you wanna shit after the first coupla lines, but def no l'sole. smooth going up the nose, no burn or anything, no rushyness, just a good clean buzz. once you've shat :D
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Even when I was coke with ethanol, acetone and chloroform first couple line always makes me need a shit its fucking annoying but like u said is fine after that
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yeah i've never had that before unless the gears got lax in it. it is the first bit in a couple of weeks though so maybe just an over excited bum hole?! ;D i know what you mean though - when i used to sell, a couple of my mates only had to bump into me down the shops and as soon as they see me they'd need a shit!
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Hahaha +1 that made me laugh but gna stop hijacking dutchanbod thread to talk about crapping
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lol, nowt wrong with hijacking threads mate - it's what i do in my spare time ;)
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and anyway - im coked out my nut on dutchies gear, so technically it ain't hijacking - i'm like an advert for it :D
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It wasnt a dig I meant my comments. I nicely fried on etizolam to ease the pain of doing line before work
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nah i didn't think it was a dig mate, just thought it was appropriate to mention it. fuck doing shit before work though, but saying that i work pretty closely with the authorities so i gotta keep a straight head on a school night. weekends they can fuck right off though - it's MY TIME
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Arrived today my order of 10g, overwieghted 1.0 hehe....
Very good package, stealthy and professional.Quick delivery...3days only to somewhere of eu!!
In this moment i feel very high, i take only 100mg and i feel on the clouds 8) 8) 8)
Thank you brother, this shit is amazing!!!
One pic of the stuff!!!
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=33e47422e77cdc35e0bf86f3042b25aa.jpg
Highly recomended, trusted seller!!
Cheers!!
Ahhh this has made me jealous haha it looks yummy.. roll on my delivery!!
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Arrived today my order of 10g, overwieghted 1.0 hehe....
Very good package, stealthy and professional.Quick delivery...3days only to somewhere of eu!!
In this moment i feel very high, i take only 100mg and i feel on the clouds 8) 8) 8)
Thank you brother, this shit is amazing!!!
One pic of the stuff!!!
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=33e47422e77cdc35e0bf86f3042b25aa.jpg
Highly recomended, trusted seller!!
Cheers!!
Ahhh this has made me jealous haha it looks yummy.. roll on my delivery!!
same here..
can't wait
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does anyone know how long it takes for Dutch to ship out?
ive been sitting in processing for 2 or 3 days now
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FANTASTIC SHIPPING!! 100 grams to US in less than a week, people are loving this stuff! I dont take mdma more than twice a year so I couldnt tell you personally though. I highly highly suggest, this was my last order here on the road and at this moment I would say so far this was by far the least stressful and most professional order at a great price from any vendor (SKYY, PF, Supertirps, Ivory, Tony76). Best of luck to everyone and enjoy all your time on the road!
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
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@ crazybart
... strange thing - me too ??? i have been made my order on thursday. since than the status is in progress.
lets hope everything is going well so far. its not only because of the mdma: if the mdma is not on its way, our addresses could be also in a quiet dangerous situation.
any other experiences in the last days ? hopefully DA just took a long weekend ...
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I had my order in transit the next day of my order....
Maybe dutch stay waiting for the end of this weekend...
Cheers...
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I had my order in transit the next day of my order....
Maybe dutch stay waiting for the end of this weekend...
Cheers...
Good to hear im not the only one. im sure he is just super busy
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Hi
We me and my workers had a weekend,we got also wife's and child's :D
All orders will be ship out tonight/tomorrow so don worry :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Im very excited to order. the MDMA looks bomb and its the best price on the road.
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anyway there can be a reship if nothing shows or just 20% refund? prices look super hot. i guess after the reviews come in from the initial orders i will jump :)
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We send give 20% refund
So you are free to order again :)
Greats Duhchaanbod
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Hi
We me and my workers had a weekend,we got also wife's and child's :D
All orders will be ship out tonight/tomorrow so don worry :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
Awesome! looking forward to it, thanks dutch
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hey dutch, i Pmd u on SR, but ur active on forums...so ill post here too. im sure other customers will have the same question.
Planning to buy MDMA + coke. In SR we must pay double postage, which I think its a bit stupid if its coming in the same envelope? Especially its about 2.15BTCs per product.
How would this work?
thanks
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dutch i saw your name and exact listings on blackmarket reloaded, but in the forums somebody said it isn't really you just a scammer posing as you... what's the official word on that?
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Hi
We are only work on SR i had already some Pm's from people that scammed over there,
So only order from SR,
greats Dutchaanbod
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I have this morning received his cocaine and the packaging was very very safe and the product looks very very good.
I will test it this afternoon.
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Hello,
Received the 10g it was 0.15 overweight, very nice package and very fast to come 3days.
Coke is good, i take some little and put it on my teeth and all my teeth were numb don't know if it's good or not lol :-)
Because some people said it's the effect of cut product and some other said this is the coke.
Everyone love this one so i will do a new order :-)
Skunk!
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Just placed an order down under. Will update this thread
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@skunk69: I think good cocaine stunned local only a little. like dutchs cocain
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yes but this time that was fucking hard lol
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its my first order from dutch. so i can say nothing about the other batches.
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I got mail today. ;)
Placed the order on Monday received today so 5 business days. 5/5 (eu to eu)
Stealth 5/5
Weight was supposed to be 12g but was 11.6, still can't argue with that free 1.6g 6/5
price 5/5
yet to test the product but looks and smells nice. no big rocks. biggest was 0.2g.
overall 5/5 can't recommend enough.. will be back for more. thanks Dutchaanbod 8)
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I think I read somewhere that the MDMA was green, any truth behind this?
the listing on SR has a pic (as of this writing) that shows the MDMA has a greenish color to it.
One pic of the stuff!!!
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=33e47422e77cdc35e0bf86f3042b25aa.jpg
Highly recomended, trusted seller!!
Cheers!!
well, that doesn't look very green. I really like how most of it looks foggy clear.
I'd probably go ahead and place an order for 10g of MDMA if not for worried about not getting the package and only 20% refund. It's a gamble I guess. Looks very nice though.
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Placed an order for 10g of his mdma and it was just marked in transit. I will update as soon as I receive the product. Can't wait!
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My MDMA came today, looks very nice.. same as vovol no big rocks just small ones :)
Very pleased and was overweight by 1.8g
Just taken a bomb now around 200mg.. hit me baby! :P
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Okay.. that is some fucking storng MDMA :) loving life right now - thank you dutchaanbod :P
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Think Im going to go ahead and order 10g, the germany shipping makes it all that much better. I've done my homework seems to be the cheapest, and quite reliable. Little sketched after what happend to drnyx but Im ready for another go around, dont disappoint me please mr. dutchaanbod
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Ok im thinking about ordering 10g mdma from this seller to the USA and I have some questions
is FE required??
only 20% refund right?
is it green? I prefer it not to be.
is the extra 20% promotion still on if I order tomorrow?
Thanks in advance.
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Ok im thinking about ordering 10g mdma from this seller to the USA and I have some questions
is FE required??
only 20% refund right?
is it green? I prefer it not to be.
is the extra 20% promotion still on if I order tomorrow?
Thanks in advance.
According to his profile, it says not to FE under the "Escrow" section. I am not sure if he still refunds only 20% if there is tracking on the package (tracking for 50g+ orders). I think the MDMA is the light brown stuff because the pics of the Coke look to have a slightly green tint also (it doesn't appear to be as green as the MDMA because coke is white). The extra 20% promotion ended on September 9th.
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Ok im thinking about ordering 10g mdma from this seller to the USA and I have some questions
is FE required??
only 20% refund right?
is it green? I prefer it not to be.
is the extra 20% promotion still on if I order tomorrow?
Thanks in advance.
FE is not required, in fact he says not to FE.
the refund is probably based on a combination of things, including how many transactions you have, whether you get a customs letter, how much you are buying etc. 20% is the refund he offers for all people buying the product.
Its not green its somewhere between clear and slightly brownish, see: http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=33e47422e77cdc35e0bf86f3042b25aa.jpg
The promotion is no longer active. but his prices are still some of the best on the road.
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Dutchaanbod you are getting my next order. Cloudsurfer has been taking much too long for my taste and you have better prices and well reviewed gear.
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Dutchaanbod you are getting my next order. Cloudsurfer has been taking much too long for my taste and you have better prices and well reviewed gear.
Hey master can you comment on what you mean by CS has been taking much too long for your taste?? I wanna order 20 grams or more from one of these two after my AH pack arrives... Leaning toward Dutch... just German post has been taking forever for me lately??
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has anyone received to the USA since he started selling again? I really want to order but i need to see some success first.
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Was also wanting to place a big order but I only see that StormTrooper420 has the only success to the US so far and that was for 100g...still highly considering placing an order anyways since it comes with tracking and in escrow.
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@citystar31 It is almost at Autofinalized so this will officially be my first time going to resolution in my 25+ amount of orders. I have 0% refund and auto rate so I'm hoping it comes tomorrow or the next day. It's the end of his delivery time frame state on his profile page.
I'm going with Dutchaanbod. Also I ordered from CS, and 2 days later he cut 40% of his price which makes me feel like crap for being one of the first to jump on when he came back. I could've doubled my order if I went with Dutchaanbod for the same amount.
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So do the sub 50G packages need to be signed for
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hmm order has been in processing for almost 24 hours. read on here normally take 2-3 hours :o
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Any feedback on whether signature is required on these packages from Germany?
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hmm order has been in processing for almost 24 hours. read on here normally take 2-3 hours :o
mine processed for about 3 days before being marked in transit late sunday night. i wouldnt be too worried
Any feedback on whether signature is required on these packages from Germany?
Definitely not for any 50 grams and under, not sure about ones with tracking tho.
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Today I ordered 70grams of MDMA from Dutchaanbod. The package will be sent to somewhere in Denmark . I will write a review when it arrives .
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I think it sits in processing for a little while cus he has to get it to germany from NL first. my guess though
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so can 100 grams not be signed for??
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So, has anyone been receiving their order from Dutch to the US lately? I'm really on the fence with this. Everything about Dutch seems great except for his 20% refund policy. I can't help but get the sense that this could lead to scams. If anyone can give me peace of mind, that would be awesome!
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So, has anyone been receiving their order from Dutch to the US lately? I'm really on the fence with this. Everything about Dutch seems great except for his 20% refund policy. I can't help but get the sense that this could lead to scams. If anyone can give me peace of mind, that would be awesome!
next week is when the reviews should be rolling in. just started shipping out again last week i think. He just got back on the road after a long hiatus.
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So, has anyone been receiving their order from Dutch to the US lately? I'm really on the fence with this. Everything about Dutch seems great except for his 20% refund policy. I can't help but get the sense that this could lead to scams. If anyone can give me peace of mind, that would be awesome!
next week is when the reviews should be rolling in. just started shipping out again last week i think. He just got back on the road after a long hiatus.
I'm thinking about placing an order as well.. might not have reviews in by that time tho.. Germany has been having a lot of strikes with their postal service couriers for flights and thats why mail has been so delayed from their..all my packs from there this past month have taken 15-25 days and I used to get them in 7-14 at most... still waiting on one that is 20+ days.. I have heard great things abut his new stealth however ;)
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Today I ordered 70grams of MDMA from Dutchaanbod. The package will be sent to somewhere in Denmark . I will write a review when it arrives .
I think it sits in processing for a little while cus he has to get it to germany from NL first. my guess though
Wtf - why would this be? One of the attractive points (most attractive in my view) is that the packages do NOT come from NL.
Dutch - can you confirm your originating country please?
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Received the coke yesterday, the package was excellent! Have tried two lines now sober, but im not sure about this. The effects has only been numbing teeth and throat. Never got coke like this that been so numbing on my throat. No increase of heart rate or euphoria, so im not sure about his coke. It seems to be cut with something...
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The MDMA come's from NL and we bring it to GERMANY there we pack it and send it away
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Hi
The MDMA come's from NL and we bring it to GERMANY there we pack it and send it away
What about the coke?
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Hi
The MDMA come's from NL and we bring it to GERMANY there we pack it and send it away
What about the coke?
I would imagine it would be the same. if they can do it for mdma they can do it for coke
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I am seriously thinking about going with Dutchaanbod.. Those prices are perfect for re-sell IRL. And if the quality/stealth with shipping as good, if not better than rinran or F16..
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
As for the coke, since I am in the US.. Why would I buy from EU?? Again, no brainer. SkippyJif from the US now sells to EU and shit, contact him. I'll be reviewing his washed C in the next couple of days on the coke vendors forum.
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So, has anyone been receiving their order from Dutch to the US lately? I'm really on the fence with this. Everything about Dutch seems great except for his 20% refund policy. I can't help but get the sense that this could lead to scams. If anyone can give me peace of mind, that would be awesome!
next week is when the reviews should be rolling in. just started shipping out again last week i think. He just got back on the road after a long hiatus.
Thanks, I think I'm gonna go ahead and order. Hopefully I don't get screwed! I'm really counting on Dutch to be my regular connect!
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Also, has anyone had any success with 100G+ Molly orders to the US from Dutch in the past?
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I got 105 grams to the US in a week from marked in transit, nor did I have to sign for the tracked order
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
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I got 105 grams to the US in a week from marked in transit, nor did I have to sign for the tracked order
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
Thats wicked good news!! I thought I saw you post a while back about your friends loving the quality? Thats my goal as well, serve my friends the finest love powder for their party needs. And so far, this cats prices makes it easy for resell in the states.
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I got 105 grams to the US in a week from marked in transit, nor did I have to sign for the tracked order
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
Thanks for the news Stormtrooper! Could you let me know if that was recently or was that a while ago? Seems like a lot of people are having huge delays with their orders from Germany, but from what I can tell, that's only with AH's service, not Dutch.
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Oh and also, did you receive your tracking number early on/at all or did he keep it to himself like most vendors like to do? That's strange that you didn't have to sign for a tracked package. Do you think that it's always like that or that was just a fluke?
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Should be able to update on my first order soon (fingers crossed!)...it's been about 10 days in transit to US. My second order has been processing for at least 4 days...I thought DB said that the orders that were placed from Friday-Sunday would all be shipped Monday morning but it appears there are some delays.
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Apparently there have been issues with strikes in the German post this last week.so delays are to be expected.
I'll post a review when my order comes in, for the meantime know that he does give out the tracking code for the shipping, although I haven't checked it.
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Apparently there have been issues with strikes in the German post this last week.so delays are to be expected.
I'll post a review when my order comes in, for the meantime know that he does give out the tracking code for the shipping, although I haven't checked it.
Thanks for the info!
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Received the coke yesterday, the package was excellent! Have tried two lines now sober, but im not sure about this. The effects has only been numbing teeth and throat. Never got coke like this that been so numbing on my throat. No increase of heart rate or euphoria, so im not sure about his coke. It seems to be cut with something...
I have the same impression, don't know what to say.... i give this coke to try to my friend and they say it's good but they don't have so much experience with real good coke....
Yesterday toke a line, no big rush but it's come slowly it was good and after a while 20min i feel a little tired like a come down hummm
If Dutch can a little more describe product that will be great :-)
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ive been in the coke business for some years now.... and what i can say is that good flakes cocaine is not speedy and is very soft to the heart. Thats why many prefer Flakes Cocaine instead of the speedy and heart killing regular cocaine.
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Ok i understand but it's normal to fell like to be tired ~30-40min after taking a line ?
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Ok i understand but it's normal to fell like to be tired ~30-40min after taking a line ?
First of all ive never tested DUTCHAANBODS coke, so im only talking in general terms about flake coke. Second, yes its normal to feel tired after 30-40 minutes. With flake coke you can feel UP or DOWN, its all about which mood youre in. There are also some coke that makes you totally DOWN physically, but you feel that youre head is totally fucked. People who cook and smoke, dance on the table when they get the coke which makes you feel totally DOWN.
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Ok i understand but it's normal to fell like to be tired ~30-40min after taking a line ?
First of all ive never tested DUTCHAANBODS coke, so im only talking in general terms about flake coke. Second, yes its normal to feel tired after 30-40 minutes. With flake coke you can feel UP or DOWN, its all about which mood youre in. There are also some coke that makes you totally DOWN physically, but you feel that youre head is totally fucked. People who cook and smoke, dance on the table when they get the coke which makes you feel totally DOWN.
Great to have your experience :-)
When i saw people smoking coke they don't dance on table but they are totally down on sofa lol
Normally it's when you snort it than you dance on table lol :-)
That's my experience but they don't have the coke like you find on SR ;-)
For me the coke from Dutchaanbod is very good, I was just wondering about the hard numbing ;-)
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Ok i understand but it's normal to fell like to be tired ~30-40min after taking a line ?
First of all ive never tested DUTCHAANBODS coke, so im only talking in general terms about flake coke. Second, yes its normal to feel tired after 30-40 minutes. With flake coke you can feel UP or DOWN, its all about which mood youre in. There are also some coke that makes you totally DOWN physically, but you feel that youre head is totally fucked. People who cook and smoke, dance on the table when they get the coke which makes you feel totally DOWN.
Great to have your experience :-)
When i saw people smoking coke they don't dance on table but they are totally down on sofa lol
Normally it's when you snort it than you dance on table lol :-)
That's my experience but they don't have the coke like you find on SR ;-)
i was explaining their feeling BEFORE they consume :)
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Whats the word on DUTCHAANBOD lastest MDMA batch?
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Ordering 10g to USA i will update with info hopefully a week from today =]
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for those who recently received in the USA please state quality and shipping time
Thanks in Advance
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Anyone's order still processing? mines been there for almost 3 days
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Ordering 10g to USA i will update with info hopefully a week from today =]
a week isn't impossible, but pretty optimistic right now. German post to the US is taking weeks for many (most?) people right now.
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Ordering 10g to USA i will update with info hopefully a week from today =]
a week isn't impossible, but pretty optimistic right now. German post to the US is taking weeks for many (most?) people right now.
yes, also in processing since 3 days
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Well just ordered 10 grams of mdma off him we ll see how it goes don t let me down man :)
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ordered 10g on Tuesday. Was set to "in transit" today, I hope it will get here in 4 days.
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seeing dada life and 12 planet next sunday im praying the germans come through for me!
Don't say things like that, man. Now I know where you are going to be. Try and be less revealing.
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Good thing he won't be the only one there :P
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Received in just over a week to Canada today.
Stealth - brilliant. Product - perfect, lovely smell and reagent tested (Marquis/Mecke/Simons) bang-on. Got the 20% bonus on a 10g order and it even weighed in a little heavy (12.4g). Product looks and smells a lot like ST's, which is also great stuff. Giving it a try this weekend - can't wait!
Likely my new goto guy for goodies.
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Wish I had noticed this thread before the 20% thing ended. If I can get the 20% I'll order tomorrow..... morning.
Regardless great price and I appreciate the low price pressure.
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just ordered 15 minutes ago... checked my mailbox twice already, nothing. i'm getting worried lol. thanks "l-e-u-c-o-p-l-a" for posting that photo (bottom of page 6) shit looks awesome. i hope after 8 or 9 years my receptors have recovered.
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I just received 30g to the US in 8 days, including the weekend, and it took him less than a day from ordering to in transit. I didn't get my order in on time for the extra 20%, but I still got a few extra grams!!! ;D His packaging is excellent, and this product looks and smells right on. All the crystals are light brown/tan, and this stuff is almost all shards with a little powder on the bottom. A few of the rocks are about 1/2" diameter. This product has that lovely sass/rootbeer smell to it, it just looks and smells great and damn it I really want to try it out right now...
I'm going to give it a go this weekend, I'll get a few friends in on it too and get back to you folks and let you know how the quality is.
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I just placed my order for 10g of mdma on 9/21 still in processing. will update at all status' of the buying experience
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Are there any non-newbies out there prepared to vouch for the quality of Dutch's mdma, all I can find review wise is sketchy recommendations from people with 2 posts or assurances that it looks good - has anyone tried it ?
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Are there any non-newbies out there prepared to vouch for the quality of Dutch's mdma, all I can find review wise is sketchy recommendations from people with 2 posts or assurances that it looks good - has anyone tried it ?
you literally have to only good back 5 pages to find stormtrooper420's brief review on the 100 grams he ordered... or go back 7 pages to find an actual picture of the product
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Any aussie's had luck with dutch yet?
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Ordered 10g @8 days ago, still waiting (US). Will definitely be back with review on arrival.
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Placed an order for a half oz of MDMA, it's been processing for almost 24 hours, which is normal.
I'll place a review once i receive it. I haven't made any orders in awhile, and all my usual, awesome MDMA vendors are out of the biz, so I'm anxious to give some new ones a try!
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I just received 30g to the US in 8 days, including the weekend, and it took him less than a day from ordering to in transit. I didn't get my order in on time for the extra 20%, but I still got a few extra grams!!! ;D His packaging is excellent, and this product looks and smells right on. All the crystals are light brown/tan, and this stuff is almost all shards with a little powder on the bottom. A few of the rocks are about 1/2" diameter. This product has that lovely sass/rootbeer smell to it, it just looks and smells great and damn it I really want to try it out right now...
I'm going to give it a go this weekend, I'll get a few friends in on it too and get back to you folks and let you know how the quality is.
I experienced the exact same service. I received my 40g to east coast US in 9 days after being marked in transit, which was also within 1 day of ordering. Stealth was top notch as well. I usually never end up trying the product since I only roll once every month or longer. A friend of a friend tried it and said it was the best stuff yet. That same person tried DrNyx's mdma previously. I haven't got a chance to reagent test it yet, but I'm sure it will only be great results.
I will definitely be placing another order real soon. The quality service and price can't be beaten. Thanks again anbod!
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Any aussie's had luck with dutch yet?
my order is still in transit bob, will pm ya if and when it arrives, only 7 days so far though,
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Man... These reviews about shipment to the US are definitely good to hear. I may place an order for 5gm next weekend, looking to re-sell IRL.. Gotta earn that paper, dog! No one around here is picking up the slack in the molly dept, so it looks like I'm gonna have to step up to the plate..
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Man... These reviews about shipment to the US are definitely good to hear. I may place an order for 5gm next weekend, looking to re-sell IRL.. Gotta earn that paper, dog! No one around here is picking up the slack in the molly dept, so it looks like I'm gonna have to step up to the plate..
hehe I like the way you think, kind sir! Really your doing your local region a wonderful community service by providing this shit to them since I'm sure that where ever your at is plagued (just like mine) by knock off RC's that are damaging to people's health and giving the drug a bad rep.
It's really good to be reading these reviews, keep 'em rollin (heh) in!
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Man... These reviews about shipment to the US are definitely good to hear. I may place an order for 5gm next weekend, looking to re-sell IRL.. Gotta earn that paper, dog! No one around here is picking up the slack in the molly dept, so it looks like I'm gonna have to step up to the plate..
hehe I like the way you think, kind sir! Really your doing your local region a wonderful community service by providing this shit to them since I'm sure that where ever your at is plagued (just like mine) by knock off RC's that are damaging to people's health and giving the drug a bad rep.
It's really good to be reading these reviews, keep 'em rollin (heh) in!
Indeed.. I'll be waiting for someone to come back and say something like: Dude, it only lasted like 5 hours, then I went to sleep.. Shit is weak!
Mad RC's being passed off as all kinds of shit around here. Another reason I came to the Silk Road, im tired of the bullshit. I bought a G of molly a few months ago, and it was most likely methylone. Fuck that! I want the real deal.
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Are there any non-newbies out there prepared to vouch for the quality of Dutch's mdma, all I can find review wise is sketchy recommendations from people with 2 posts or assurances that it looks good - has anyone tried it ?
you literally have to only good back 5 pages to find stormtrooper420's brief review on the 100 grams he ordered... or go back 7 pages to find an actual picture of the product
About this, I am somewhat skeptical of that review for one reason and one reason only-there is zero feedback on Dutchaanbod's listing for 100g. I mean, this could be due to the listing maybe changing or maybe he ordered 10 10g listings? I know storm is a well respected member of this community, and I'd hate to act like a dick for questioning the validity of his review however that just strikes me as a little odd. If anybody can shed some light on the subject
Besides this one, the second biggest review was for 40 g's (its hard to remember every page of shit, but I don't recall seeing one) which doesn't qualify for the tracked delivery which does make a difference in shipping times and customs (my first and only tracked order from another vendor had customs shit on the package, something that never happened from non-tracked german orders from 2 different vendors) so I'm wondering about if any of these bulk orders would be received. He also hasn't been back long enough to start having negative reviews, so its kinda just a sit and wait deal at this point for those who have bulk orders.
I hope all your wonderful MDMA orders come in fast and heavy
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ordered 10g's on sept 18th, shipped out the 20th, assuming it would probably come by next friday or saturday.
Hoping this is similar to PF's brown batch because that stuff was great, friends loved it. Also waiting on ST's Green ?'s and two different orders of defqons, one from BrPower and one from BeansUSA
I just hate this waiting game :(
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NEW FROM 22-09-2012 everyone that make an order out of EU have to finalize early and we give no refund its because package's stay sometime more then 2/3 weeks in the sort facility's the come true but it need to much time before the will be deliver !
You don like it don order !
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NEW FROM 22-09-2012 everyone that make an order out of EU have to finalize early and we give no refund its because package's stay sometime more then 2/3 weeks in the sort facility's the come true but it need to much time before the will be deliver !
You don like it don order !
Wow was just about to order 50 grams till I saw this.. reports are still rolling in and like less than 10 have been from the US and they all say like 7-14 days tops so whats this 2-3 weeks? and no refund, you went MIA and your stealth then was awful and your rating tanked, now you have less than 10 people giving great reviews and quick shipping and now its all FE and no refund?? sounds fishy and damn I wash just about to get my order in!!
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Yeah my last order here then tbh, not ganna FE when im bout to order 50g. Such a shame too, I hope you reconsider.
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I first want to see how long it will take exactly some order are already 10 days in the USPS sorting center so when it all go's smooth i probably will do escrow back later,
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So, now, anyone who does not live in EU has to FE? Why do vendors make people do this??? It just scares away customers and hurts their business! The escrow system is there for a reason and SR highly discourages it to any vendor/buyer. If the packaging is stealthy enough, there won't be any issues with customs or the post and considering Dutch is charging so much for shipping, his packaging should be untouchable!
DUTCH! You have to realize that you are in a prime position to dominate the MDMA business on here with your competitive prices!!! Take advantage of it! All you have to do is process orders quickly, make the packaging as discreet as possible, and give us the comfort of staying in escrow (and maybe even up the refund policy to 50/50 since that is what every other respected vendor does) and we will make you a multi-millionaire!! Please don't go bad on us! SR truly NEEDS a valuable bulk MDMA vendor!!
MM
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Or for even more money add a tracking option and that way you won't have to worry about scammers and pricks.. and then you can offer some refund but I have heard great things about your packaging so I don't see why escrow should be a problem for you.. I understand the delays but like mentioned you have potential to keep a steady client base ;)
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From a seller point of view I can understand the FE requirement: escrow killed sesampino and PF. They had to keep reshipping orders that were just stuck in the German mail system. I had an order take over 2 months from the postmarked date all the while other orders were taking 3-8 days.
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NEW FROM 22-09-2012 everyone that make an order out of EU have to finalize early and we give no refund its because package's stay sometime more then 2/3 weeks in the sort facility's the come true but it need to much time before the will be deliver !
You don like it don order !
i put my order in a couple days ago... still processing. i'll be damned if he's gonna try and back date this policy and make me FE. i'm already paying $25 to ship out of germany. gonna be kinda pissed if this order gets cancelled
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NEW FROM 22-09-2012 everyone that make an order out of EU have to finalize early and we give no refund its because package's stay sometime more then 2/3 weeks in the sort facility's the come true but it need to much time before the will be deliver !
You don like it don order !
i put my order in a couple days ago... still processing. i'll be damned if he's gonna try and back date this policy and make me FE. i'm already paying $25 to ship out of germany. gonna be kinda pissed if this order gets cancelled
This is as of September 22, It doesn't effect you, at least not on this order.
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NEW FROM 22-09-2012 everyone that make an order out of EU have to finalize early and we give no refund its because package's stay sometime more then 2/3 weeks in the sort facility's the come true but it need to much time before the will be deliver !
You don like it don order !
i put my order in a couple days ago... still processing. i'll be damned if he's gonna try and back date this policy and make me FE. i'm already paying $25 to ship out of germany. gonna be kinda pissed if this order gets cancelled
I'm in the same boat as you. I just got done with being scammed by abzu, and the refund on that hurt my refund %, so if i have to cancel this i'll be bummed. I haven't seen any fresh shards in months! I was looking forward to this order.
Hopefully we dont have to FE since we ordered before this update, after being scammed too many times, I NEVER FE, especially with a vendor I've had no prior business with..
Hope all works out!
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NEW FROM 22-09-2012 everyone that make an order out of EU have to finalize early and we give no refund its because package's stay sometime more then 2/3 weeks in the sort facility's the come true but it need to much time before the will be deliver !
You don like it don order !
i put my order in a couple days ago... still processing. i'll be damned if he's gonna try and back date this policy and make me FE. i'm already paying $25 to ship out of germany. gonna be kinda pissed if this order gets cancelled
I'm in the same boat as you. I just got done with being scammed by abzu, and the refund on that hurt my refund %, so if i have to cancel this i'll be bummed. I haven't seen any fresh shards in months! I was looking forward to this order.
Hopefully we dont have to FE since we ordered before this update, after being scammed too many times, I NEVER FE, especially with a vendor I've had no prior business with..
Hope all works out!
I don't think you have to worry if your order was placed before today. I have had a rather large order in processing since Thursday night and I asked Dutch about it this morning and he told me that it will ship out Monday morning. He never mentioned anything about FE, so I am assuming that he is going to honor the orders that were placed before today's FE policy.
***I SURE HOPE THAT HE RETRACTS HIS FE POLICY SO I CAN ORDER FROM HIM AGAIN***
You should never FE, no matter what (especially for bulk!). I have been royally fucked twice for FE when I was kind of newish on SR and vowed that I will never FE again. Hopefully, Dutch will realize that this policy could hurt his business much more than the potential wait times that escrow constitutes and he will reconsider. I mean, come on! We already have to deal with the 20% refund policy. Don't take escrow away from us too!
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NEW FROM 22-09-2012 everyone that make an order out of EU have to finalize early and we give no refund its because package's stay sometime more then 2/3 weeks in the sort facility's the come true but it need to much time before the will be deliver !
You don like it don order !
i put my order in a couple days ago... still processing. i'll be damned if he's gonna try and back date this policy and make me FE. i'm already paying $25 to ship out of germany. gonna be kinda pissed if this order gets cancelled
I'm in the same boat as you. I just got done with being scammed by abzu, and the refund on that hurt my refund %, so if i have to cancel this i'll be bummed. I haven't seen any fresh shards in months! I was looking forward to this order.
Hopefully we dont have to FE since we ordered before this update, after being scammed too many times, I NEVER FE, especially with a vendor I've had no prior business with..
Hope all works out!
I don't think you have to worry if your order was placed before today. I have had a rather large order in processing since Thursday night and I asked Dutch about it this morning and he told me that it will ship out Monday morning. He never mentioned anything about FE, so I am assuming that he is going to honor the orders that were placed before today's FE policy.
***I SURE HOPE THAT HE RETRACTS HIS FE POLICY SO I CAN ORDER FROM HIM AGAIN***
You should never FE, no matter what (especially for bulk!). I have been royally fucked twice for FE when I was kind of newish on SR and vowed that I will never FE again. Hopefully, Dutch will realize that this policy could hurt his business much more than the potential wait times that escrow constitutes and he will reconsider. I mean, come on! We already have to deal with the 20% refund policy. Don't take escrow away from us too!
Well that puts my mind at ease! I was finally glad to find another vendor who could send me a higher amount for a good price. I'm really hoping this works out!
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I'm guessing that he had some customers that got impatient and demanded refunds prematurely. What do you guys think?
I understand that things have been slow coming out of Germany recently. It totally makes sense to tell people, "if you can't wait up to a month for package to arrive, then don't order."
I funded coin into my account just yesterday for a 10g order. While rolling this morning I felt like I should have placed my order last night. lol. oh well.
hoping for the best.
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I don't think you have to worry if your order was placed before today. I have had a rather large order in processing since Thursday night and I asked Dutch about it this morning and he told me that it will ship out Monday morning. He never mentioned anything about FE, so I am assuming that he is going to honor the orders that were placed before today's FE policy.
***I SURE HOPE THAT HE RETRACTS HIS FE POLICY SO I CAN ORDER FROM HIM AGAIN***
You should never FE, no matter what (especially for bulk!). I have been royally fucked twice for FE when I was kind of newish on SR and vowed that I will never FE again. Hopefully, Dutch will realize that this policy could hurt his business much more than the potential wait times that escrow constitutes and he will reconsider. I mean, come on! We already have to deal with the 20% refund policy. Don't take escrow away from us too!
i'll pretty much 2nd this. i messaged dutch and asked about the FE on orders before today his response "Now only the people that make new orders have to FE early" i'm glad i was able to get my order in when i did :)
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had the coin last night it sucks ;( yea prolly some jackass are bitching about packs over 7 days but like someone said post is fucking slow and I'm on day 23 for a pack from germany!!
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It is really important for people to NOT FE. The escrow system is one of the few tools buyers here have to protect themselves. If the buyers as a whole refuse to FE, then everyone is better off including the legitimate vendors.
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Really disappointed about the FE requirement for non EU customers.
I expect you'll be losing a bunch of sales :-\
Supper bummed out
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Anyone else find his reasoning somewhat suspicious?
All the feedback to the US and Canada say it took around 8 days.
But then he says two weeks.
Not accusing anyone of anything but hmm
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Thinking about ordering with this guy. postage fee seems a bit high though. dus anyone know if you have to sign for a small order to Belgium? does he use normal postal services or by courier?
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Hopefully Dutch reconsiders the new policy, as I'm sure it's going to drive away many US customers. Ordered before the switch but would not order again with the new terms. Surely there's a middle ground he can find that still provides some protection to US buyers while also protecting himself as well.
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Fuck this guy. This is a scam waiting to happen, only an absolute moron would order from him now. Do yourself a favor and buy from F16 (who has similarly priced molly when shipping is factored in) or perhaps Cloudsurfer, if you've made 10+ orders here.
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Hi all
Don understand it wrong some package's where arrive with 8 days but there are stile around the 50/60 orders on the way to the US
Some people that still not have there package's ( max 12 days) come complain that the want refund's so some of you guys fuck it up for the rest,
I try to sell High quality mdma for good price's and we sell allot we need to restock also so we can not wait 20/28 days before the orders are finalize
we have sell around the 5/6 KG last week so we need to invest to much in SR hope you people understand our situation,
I gonna look tomorrow what the best thing is what i can do,
Probably all 50gr + orders with tracking have to finalize when its in the USPS post center so it already over the border and you can not lose it anymore,
With the small orders i have to look what we gonna do,
You people hear from me,
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Got my first order of 10g yesterday, took 12 or 13 days to the US. Looks and smells great so I placed another order last night--hope Dutch doesn't try to make me FE now because I will never FE again after a lesson learned.
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dutch - any success down under since u been back? approx ETA?
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Dutchaanbod, I am very encouraged that you are considering other options. I've got coin ready to spend on 10g of MDMA. :)
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Hello guys,
I have ordered 100g of mdma but i'm inside EU so this new sucking rules are not for me hopefully...
It's still processing but i will give you a feedback when i will received it.
Cheers!
Skunk!
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hi is FE required for orders to the USA?? Does the long delay within the EU also effect shipping times to the USA?
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Thanks for reconsidering dutch, lets have along term business relationship eh? With your prices we definitely can do that!
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Hi all
Don understand it wrong some package's where arrive with 8 days but there are stile around the 50/60 orders on the way to the US
Some people that still not have there package's ( max 12 days) come complain that the want refund's so some of you guys fuck it up for the rest,
I try to sell High quality mdma for good price's and we sell allot we need to restock also so we can not wait 20/28 days before the orders are finalize
we have sell around the 5/6 KG last week so we need to invest to much in SR hope you people understand our situation,
I gonna look tomorrow what the best thing is what i can do,
Probably all 50gr + orders with tracking have to finalize when its in the USPS post center so it already over the border and you can not lose it anymore,
With the small orders i have to look what we gonna do,
You people hear from me,
Greats Dutchaanbod
Yes, please reconsider the policy Dutch! I may be more likely to FE if I receive the tracking number first, but still it makes me very uncomfortable.
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dutch - any success down under since u been back? approx ETA?
Somethings should be showing up in my mail this week check this thread again later.
And Dutchaanbod - I have spent thousands through you in the past and I have recieved my packages time and time again in a timely manner and I know I will not be buying from you again if FE is required. Perhaps make FE a requirement for new customers if you can't afford to leave it all in escrow but not for everyone.
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yeah i also ordered the other day and saw what dutch said and got a little scared because i really would like to try this mollys without risking the FE situation. Can anyone comment on the quality please? in the pictures its like green but somewhere else i heard it was brown. Can i get a little input please?
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I may be a "Newbie" on this forum because I value my freedom, but I am a decent buyer of MDMA, and I just ordered 50 grams yesterday. I already messaged Dutchaanbod about the FE issue, and really as long as I get the tracking # before I FE I'm fine. As long as the package can be tracked. I will be a frequent buy of his product if it is of good quality :)
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Damn the new FE rule sucks ass!
Was gonna place a 2nd order with you for 100g, but kinda scared me off with the FE requirements. Maybe you should reconsider having repeat customers who are purchasing 50grams or more not have to finalize early, but the rest do? I mean really, it's the buyers that go big that gets fucked over and they really can't say they didn't get the package cause of the tracking right? Just a thought to consider Dutch. But I'm glad you are considering alternatives. I'd too feel a little more safe with tracking number in hand before finalizing.
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You lost a customer with the FE. I was going to order 10-20 grams the begining of this week but if I have to FE there is no way in hell. I'll pay the extra BTC and FE with a different vendor if FE is required.
You were the best because you didn't require FE, it made you different.
I would really like to give you my business this week but FE is just not an option. If I have to FE I might as well use AfterHour or someone of that sort.
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Me and a few friends had a chance to try out some of the Molly and it is excellent. Couple of friends did .14g and they were having a really great time, I did .18 and was rolling my face off, and my last friend did .2 and spent his first couple hours throwing up, but even he had a good time after he stopped vomiting.
I was planning on getting a bunch more real soon, but if I have to FE I might just not buy from Dutch at all. I've been screwed before by ordering fairly large amounts with no escrow, and I would rather buy from someone more expensive than take the risk of getting ripped off again. If I don't have to FE, then I will almost certainly be back because his service and product are fantastic.
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Hey Dutch,
Maybe you could consider SuperTrips policy if you need funds released earlier. Considering his success, it seems to be working quite well for him. He requires his customers to FE after the tracking number has been sent, but he offers a 100% refund/reship if something goes wrong. Maybe you could at least offer a 100% reship if a 100% refund isn't ideal. I think that would make customers feel a lot more comfortable about the FE policy. Just an idea..
MM
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Hey Dutch,
Maybe you could consider SuperTrips policy if you need funds released earlier. Considering his success, it seems to be working quite well for him. He requires his customers to FE after the tracking number has been sent, but he offers a 100% refund/reship if something goes wrong. Maybe you could at least offer a 100% reship if a 100% refund isn't ideal. I think that would make customers feel a lot more comfortable about the FE policy. Just an idea..
MM
I am in agreement with this. I had planned on using this vendor come next weekend because everything looked on the up and up (as much as it can around SR), now this FE stuff. I don't wanna potentially ruin my good luck streak on here by getting stung with what appears to be some funny business. Hopefully, over the next week he will think it over and revise his current FE policy.
As we can see, it's not going over well with what could be new customers.
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Fuckin A man, right when I was about to place a 200 gram order with you, you had to pull the FE out of the bag. I mean with stats like mine I don't understand why EVERYONE should have to finalize.
Total transactions: 83
Total spent: $24425.51
Refund rate: 3.09%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 7 months
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Hey Dutch,
Maybe you could consider SuperTrips policy if you need funds released earlier. Considering his success, it seems to be working quite well for him. He requires his customers to FE after the tracking number has been sent, but he offers a 100% refund/reship if something goes wrong. Maybe you could at least offer a 100% reship if a 100% refund isn't ideal. I think that would make customers feel a lot more comfortable about the FE policy. Just an idea..
MM
I am in agreement with this. I had planned on using this vendor come next weekend because everything looked on the up and up (as much as it can around SR), now this FE stuff. I don't wanna potentially ruin my good luck streak on here by getting stung with what appears to be some funny business. Hopefully, over the next week he will think it over and revise his current FE policy.
As we can see, it's not going over well with what could be new customers.
I agree with this. I could go for this and would finalize if it was similar to supertrips policy.
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I just hope he/she/they have enough weight behind em to fill all these orders that people wanna make. Must have a garage full of this stuff!
If I had that kinda weight kicking around, I'd be very, very, very paranoid all the time. I'd be eating xanax like breath mints!
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That would piss me off too... This whole FE thing seems to be making everyone pissed off. But a custom order, that would be about the last straw.
What kinda shit are they trying to pull here???
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rabble rabble rabble!
Where are the US/bulk shipments??? Nothing but little EU 10g packs showing up on feedback.
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got a US shipment on Friday, had 8 people test it last night and despite one person throwing up for about 30 min on the way up, everyone loved it... put in another order before he announced the FE rules, but we'll see if it goes through cuz this man doesn't FE.
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I'm on his MDMA right now.. lovely stuff.
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got a US shipment on Friday, had 8 people test it last night and despite one person throwing up for about 30 min on the way up, everyone loved it... put in another order before he announced the FE rules, but we'll see if it goes through cuz this man doesn't FE.
good shit bro
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I may be a "Newbie" on this forum because I value my freedom, but I am a decent buyer of MDMA, and I just ordered 50 grams yesterday. I already messaged Dutchaanbod about the FE issue, and really as long as I get the tracking # before I FE I'm fine. As long as the package can be tracked. I will be a frequent buy of his product if it is of good quality :)
Hey Dutch,
I was basically trying to message you this exact comment. I hope something gets worked out that's better for you and the buyers than this FE bullsh*t
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is the price (for the 10g of MDMA from DUTCHAANBOD) attached to the $US/Dollar or Euro or what? Maybe it is just my imagination but seems like the price was under ฿14 a few weeks ago and now worked up to over ฿15. Just wondering. It costs what it costs of course.
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Once again do buyers from the USA have to FE?
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My order went in on the 21st it's still processing he changed his FE policy Sept 22nd so i beat his dead line before the 22nd i hope i dont have to FE.
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is the price (for the 10g of MDMA from DUTCHAANBOD) attached to the $US/Dollar or Euro or what? Maybe it is just my imagination but seems like the price was under ฿14 a few weeks ago and now worked up to over ฿15. Just wondering. It costs what it costs of course.
Its hedged to stay around 185 US dollars, regardless of what the current bitcoin exchange rate is it stays at that US dollar price..
Bitcoins could be trading at 185US and then it would only cost 1 bitcoin, or they could be trading at 1US dollar and it would cost 185 Bitcoins.
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Received in 15 days from date of order with a mix of rocks and sand. Smells and looks legit and tested up positive to mandelin. Good package, but may need extra vacuum seal as i could smell it through the bag. But its here now, and was a great price so very happy.
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Received in 15 days from date of order with a mix of rocks and sand. Smells and looks legit and tested up positive to mandelin. Good package, but may need extra vacuum seal as i could smell it through the bag. But its here now, and was a great price so very happy.
What country did you receive it in>
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I really need to know asap if USA buyers have to FE.
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I really need to know asap if USA buyers have to FE.
Based on the statements that DUTCHAANBOD has made in this thread, everyone outside of the EU needs to FE but he is considering other options right now.
His statement below should probably be updated to say "Shipments that go out of the EU" or "outside of the EU" for clarity. To Americans at least, "out of EU" tends to mean "coming from the EU."
NEW FROM 22-09-2012 everyone that make an order out of EU have to finalize early and we give no refund its because package's stay sometime more then 2/3 weeks in the sort facility's the come true but it need to much time before the will be deliver !
I don't have any history with DUTCHAANBOD so I'll need to order from Rinran or F16 or somebody else unless DUTCH updates his policy or makes an exception for me. I had the money the day before this policy (and it cost less bitcoin at that time) so really too bad I didn't get my order in.
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Hi
We change the FE rules today,
All orders can stay in escrow under 50gr
50gr + package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility so its already over the border,
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Well then I'll be sure to order on friday ^_^
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Hi
We change the FE rules today,
All orders can stay in escrow under 50gr
50gr + package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility so its already over the border,
Greats Dutchaanbod
Really glad to hear it mate, been lurking around your thread for some time now. Now i can consider placing an order again :)
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Hi
We change the FE rules today,
All orders can stay in escrow under 50gr
50gr + package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility so its already over the border,
Greats Dutchaanbod
The news I was hoping to hear!!! Yay!
I feel like doing the running man!!
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If anyone has received a 100G order or more to the US please PM me, I'm just curious about the time frame it took and packaging etc. Thanks
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Hi
We change the FE rules today,
All orders can stay in escrow under 50gr
50gr + package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility so its already over the border,
Greats Dutchaanbod
Great news Dutch! Thanks for reconsidering!
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So the new rules mean that we don't have to finalize until tracking says it's in the USPS facility, which means it's through customs?
I suppose the packaging is good enough so that we don't have to worry about it being compromised after that or? And I suppose the combination of orders < 50g being able to stay in escrow makes it seem like empty packages won't be sent out?
Not that I think that Dutch would do that but getting burned by FE after we all saw the 420 scam would leave a really bad taste in my mouth.
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Thanks for reconsidering the FE rules dutch. You got yourself a new customer. :D Will be ordering 10-20 grams today(hopefully 20) and once I sell that it in my area i'll be coming back for 50-100g ;)
The people that have gotten some, what was it like? Tan and sassy?
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The people that have gotten some, what was it like? Tan and sassy?
from pg. 6 of this thread
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=33e47422e77cdc35e0bf86f3042b25aa.jpg
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Just gotta get some bitcoins so i can place my order.
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excellent!! Let's do some business than.
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??great u changed ur mind but...shouldn't u make small orders FE and 100g
over stay in ESCROW.for every ones protection??there has been way to many scams. .DRNYX.for one.
we all lost $$ to that scam..please think about big order staying in escrow.as alot of people are afraid to place big orders with out escrow
isn't this Y we use SR.FOR escrow.and protection.they shouldn't allow people to sell that MAKE U FE.whts the point of using SR .then
THE PIRATEs GOT ARE BK.
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Damn thats a bummer, i was gunna get a 100 gram pack this week, and mostly like a 250 or 500 in two weeks , but i think ill have to look for a new vendor. I dont FE.
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Hi
We change the FE rules today,
All orders can stay in escrow under 50gr
50gr + package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility so its already over the border,
Greats Dutchaanbod
I am okay with this actually. It is a reasonable request. We, as bulk purchasers get the tracking number before it's even getting to the border... I mean if there's no/20% refund, what is the big deal? We're dealing with drugs guys, remember? This shit is illegal and could ruin all of our lives forever. So, like Dutch has said before, "If you don't like it, don't order".. I ordered; I am not afraid :)
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I placed a 250 gram mdma order with him today to the US. I will keep everybody updated.
please do
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yes pleeeease do!
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5 of 5 stuff came today. amazing packaging. Good quality. have a new dealer ;) 11 hours
This was just posted today for a 100g pack-If this is you, please post a full review such as when you ordered and whatnot, it would be VERY beneficial to this community!
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is the price (for the 10g of MDMA from DUTCHAANBOD) attached to the $US/Dollar or Euro or what? Maybe it is just my imagination but seems like the price was under ฿14 a few weeks ago and now worked up to over ฿15. Just wondering. It costs what it costs of course.
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You got answered to on post #251
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5 of 5 stuff came today. amazing packaging. Good quality. have a new dealer ;) 11 hours
This was just posted today for a 100g pack-If this is you, please post a full review such as when you ordered and whatnot, it would be VERY beneficial to this community!
I have a 100G order going out tomorrow, but was marked 'in transit' today. I'll let you know when I receive the tracking number and how everything goes through the whole process.
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What's to stop dutch from scamming people in this manner: supply a bunch of his bulk people the same tracking # so they all finalize without actually sending out all the orders?
I'm staying away from this vendor.
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5g order to US just placed. Will update
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is the price (for the 10g of MDMA from DUTCHAANBOD) attached to the $US/Dollar or Euro or what? Maybe it is just my imagination but seems like the price was under ฿14 a few weeks ago and now worked up to over ฿15. Just wondering. It costs what it costs of course.
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You got answered to on post #251
Not sure how I missed that (now post $250). Price is $185. Thanks!
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8 business days to the eastern us. why cant my large order with another vendor come this quickly??? i will def order again from this guy,
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We change the FE rules today,
All orders can stay in escrow under 50gr
50gr + package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility so its already over the border,
So his FE rules for 50g+ you have to FE when its at sorting facility...sorting facility could mean ISC NY customs right?
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I placed a 250 gram mdma order with him today to the US. I will keep everybody updated.
What did he charge you for 250g?
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8 business days to the eastern us. why cant my large order with another vendor come this quickly??? i will def order again from this guy,
Bulk?
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My 10g was marked 'in transit' Monday, hoping to get it before a bass filled event next weekend!
I'll update here as things proceed. Hoping to get a bulk order next time.
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8 business days to the eastern us. why cant my large order with another vendor come this quickly??? i will def order again from this guy,
Not that I don't have faith in Dutch (he just hasn't proven anything to me yet), but I hate seeing all these positive reviews from "Newbies" on here....and I mean, this poster's name is "usa2usadutchxtc". Seems very specific to this thread. Just seems made up to me. I'll feel better once all of the expected credible reviews start coming in this week or next.
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My 10g order was marked "in transit" on Thursday. Usually it takes 4 business days till here. Nothing turned up yet, but I'll see the next few days. I'm a bit nervous when it's on its way.
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He is a new resale vendor here.. He has a USA to USA vendor account... Jesus man lay off the paranoia.
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8 business days to the eastern us. why cant my large order with another vendor come this quickly??? i will def order again from this guy,
Not that I don't have faith in Dutch (he just hasn't proven anything to me yet), but I hate seeing all these positive reviews from "Newbies" on here....and I mean, this poster's name is "usa2usadutchxtc". Seems very specific to this thread. Just seems made up to me. I'll feel better once all of the expected credible reviews start coming in this week or next.
He is a new resale vendor here.. He has a USA to USA vendor account... Jesus man lay off the paranoia.
He's a new resale vendor SUPPOSEDLY selling SuperTrips MDMA. Liar! I'm gonna confront the little bitch on his thread!
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He is a new resale vendor here.. He has a USA to USA vendor account... Jesus man lay off the paranoia.
Looks like he's buying from Dutchaanbod for $15/g and re-selling for $65/g. As it stands now it's still worth the risk to go to Dutch himself at $15-20/g.
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Unless people only want an occasional gram with no worries from customs and quicker delivery. Not sure why your comment was directed at me, I don't care what he resells it for.
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Unless people only want an occasional gram with no worries from customs and quicker delivery. Not sure why your comment was directed at me, I don't care what he resells it for.
Sorry, wasn't directed at you. Was just giving general info about the vendor and your post had a general mention so I quoted it.
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anyone who got a tracked package, did you have to sign?
As its registered mail?
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I placed an order last Thursday (Five days ago) for 100G of MDMA..Still in 'processing.' If anyone has ordered since then, has it been marked in transit? Dutchaanbod, do you only ship on certain days, since you ship from Germany...?
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I ordered the day after you, and he sent it out Monday, which i've heard he did the same for others. It could have to do with the fact that you ordered bulk? Even tho his new policy would require you to FE, you ordered before this policy change so i would hope he wouldn't ask you to FE..
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Hi
Bulk shipment we send apart from all the small orders,
There are allot of small orders and we don want to take the risk if the found one small orders the catch the bulks also :)
Greats DA
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Hi
Bulk shipment we send apart from all the small orders,
There are allot of small orders and we don want to take the risk if the found one small orders the catch the bulks also :)
Greats DA
Sounds good brother, I don't mind waiting ;D As long as it gets here!
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What's to stop dutch from scamming people in this manner: supply a bunch of his bulk people the same tracking # so they all finalize without actually sending out all the orders?
I'm staying away from this vendor.
Please do stay away, and don't come back.
More awesome MDMA rocks at great prices for the rest of us who aren't paranoid fucking schizos.
Placed a 20g order. Dutch is fucking awesome from all i've seen, he runs his business in one of the most customer friendly fashions i've seen on the road. And his FE rules are very accommodating. I feel safe if my 20g order gets here to FE on the 50g order.(And you don't even have to until it's processed!)
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8 business days to the eastern us. why cant my large order with another vendor come this quickly??? i will def order again from this guy,
Not that I don't have faith in Dutch (he just hasn't proven anything to me yet), but I hate seeing all these positive reviews from "Newbies" on here....and I mean, this poster's name is "usa2usadutchxtc". Seems very specific to this thread. Just seems made up to me. I'll feel better once all of the expected credible reviews start coming in this week or next.
I've been in transit for about 8 days now, ill update when it arrives..
not sure if im "credible" or not tho
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I usually dont post on these things, but i have been making very good use of the info u guys have provided for some time now. So it is only right that i give a little back.
I just put in an order for 100 to the US. I will keep you guys posted
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Well this is the Dutchaanbod thread ???
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He is a new resale vendor here.. He has a USA to USA vendor account... Jesus man lay off the paranoia.
Sorry if I came off as extremely paranoid or something. I was just expressing an opinion and it's a pretty logical doubt, I think. If you would have noticed a fairly recent post of mine, you would know that I am in the same boat as everyone else (waiting on a 100G order) and therefore, am not suffering from any type of paranoia; just practicing observational caution. In my opinion, "Newbies" haven't earned much credibility in the forums at that level (in most cases) and I don't exactly do background checks on all of them either. I have faith in Dutch, as I have ordered from him before, but I have never experienced a bulk transaction with him, so time will tell.
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8 business days to the eastern us. why cant my large order with another vendor come this quickly??? i will def order again from this guy,
Not that I don't have faith in Dutch (he just hasn't proven anything to me yet), but I hate seeing all these positive reviews from "Newbies" on here....and I mean, this poster's name is "usa2usadutchxtc". Seems very specific to this thread. Just seems made up to me. I'll feel better once all of the expected credible reviews start coming in this week or next.
I've been in transit for about 8 days now, ill update when it arrives..
not sure if im "credible" or not tho
An update would be very appreciated. As I said before, anyone who's not a "Newbie" (or rather, has more than like 30 posts) is credible in my book :)
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I just placed a 70 gram order to u.s as my first order with dutchaanbod i will update how it goes.
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Just wondering. Those of you that order large amounts at once.....aren't you worried about losing your money if the shipment doesn't make it? I like the idea of buying in bulk to save money but with only a 20% refund seems like a risk.
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Just wondering. Those of you that order large amounts at once.....aren't you worried about losing your money if the shipment doesn't make it? I like the idea of buying in bulk to save money but with only a 20% refund seems like a risk.
It is definitely a gamble, but I would assume that most of us that order bulk have worked our way up to that level from smaller purchases (which have earned us enough money in resale as security to take that gamble). I would highly advise you not to deplete all of your personal funds on a bulk order if you were considering ordering bulk and that is your financial situation, but Dutch is reputable for having rockstar packaging, so it should be rare that packages don't show.
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With no requirement to finalize early, and at just over $200 for 10g's, along with the solid reputation, it was kind of a no brainer. Placed my order a few hours ago, will post an update when the product gets to me
In 7-21 business days, I'll be one smiling motherfucker.
Can't wait to check it out
-Schmuck
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Ordered 10 grams on the 18th, shipped out the 20th. Patiently waiting for this package to the West Coast, will update once I receive. I'm giving it til about the end of the week(Friday or Saturday) because Pf's letter only took 6 days last time, shipped from Germany and this was during his time of being overloaded with orders.
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Ordered 10 grams on the 18th, shipped out the 20th. Patiently waiting for this package to the West Coast, will update once I receive. I'm giving it til about the end of the week(Friday or Saturday) because Pf's letter only took 6 days last time, shipped from Germany and this was during his time of being overloaded with orders.
Just so you know, it should be 8-10 days to the West Coast (based on experience from previous orders).
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Just wondering. Those of you that order large amounts at once.....aren't you worried about losing your money if the shipment doesn't make it? I like the idea of buying in bulk to save money but with only a 20% refund seems like a risk.
If you are even considering an order at 50g s or up you have to assume, going into the deal that it won't arrive. make plans for it then be happy as fuck when it does. I say this from experiance with my 100g order from dutch just coming in.
for everyone doubting I just got my 100 pack and it looks delicious, mostly off white with some brownie crystals, rather shardy and mostly crushed crystal, but definately crystal there was no indication of any kind of cut. I'll update later this week when I've had a chance to share some around.
Ordered 10 grams on the 18th, shipped out the 20th. Patiently waiting for this package to the West Coast, will update once I receive. I'm giving it til about the end of the week(Friday or Saturday) because Pf's letter only took 6 days last time, shipped from Germany and this was during his time of being overloaded with orders.
Just so you know, it should be 8-10 days to the West Coast (based on experience from previous orders).
Don't get his hopes up, my package from super took 22ish days if I recall and my order from dutch was right around 14. Just make sure you stick it in resolution if it goes to 2 days left, ask for a time extension and chances are it'll arrive before it even has a chance to get looked at. stay positive but plan for the worst ;D
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Just wondering. Those of you that order large amounts at once.....aren't you worried about losing your money if the shipment doesn't make it? I like the idea of buying in bulk to save money but with only a 20% refund seems like a risk.
If you are even considering an order at 50g s or up you have to assume, going into the deal that it won't arrive. make plans for it then be happy as fuck when it does. I say this from experiance with my 100g order from dutch just coming in.
for everyone doubting I just got my 100 pack and it looks delicious, mostly off white with some brownie crystals, rather shardy and mostly crushed crystal, but definately crystal there was no indication of any kind of cut. I'll update later this week when I've had a chance to share some around.
Ordered 10 grams on the 18th, shipped out the 20th. Patiently waiting for this package to the West Coast, will update once I receive. I'm giving it til about the end of the week(Friday or Saturday) because Pf's letter only took 6 days last time, shipped from Germany and this was during his time of being overloaded with orders.
Just so you know, it should be 8-10 days to the West Coast (based on experience from previous orders).
Don't get his hopes up, my package from super took 22ish days if I recall and my order from dutch was right around 14. Just make sure you stick it in resolution if it goes to 2 days left, ask for a time extension and chances are it'll arrive before it even has a chance to get looked at. stay positive but plan for the worst ;D
Was it 14 days for a 25G+ order? Smaller orders (under 25G, which is what I'm referring to) take a considerably less amount of time than bulk. Usually 8-10 days
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I've been doing my research on Dutch for a couple of weeks now. I've had my eye on that 10g for a while...but it seems like he's deleted it. :( Go fuckin figure, the day I want to make my move...its gone
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Ensine99 great to hear u got 100g.can u let us know how long did it take?and the tracking thing?
when did he send to u it?like do we get the # when its in USA?or wht?
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Ensine99 great to hear u got 100g.can u let us know how long did it take?and the tracking thing?
when did he send to u it?like do we get the # when its in USA?or wht?
I said 14, he gave me the tracking the day after it marked in transit, although I think that's just the date changing on SR. - something like a 6-8 hour gap I think?
and that 14 counts two Sundays. so its really closer to 12. I only tracked it once and that was just to check and make sure it made it through customs. The same number works for the US postal service and the German service.
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Placed order to West US late yesterday, will update
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thank YOU E99. now thats not to bad 12 dsays..we will keep are eye on this.
to see how it goes for every one else.just still dont like the whole FE THING.but if every one gets there packages
then its on!thanks every one
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I've been doing my research on Dutch for a couple of weeks now. I've had my eye on that 10g for a while...but it seems like he's deleted it. :( Go fuckin figure, the day I want to make my move...its gone
I hope this is just a matter of the specified quantity he listed on SR running out and that he'll re-up it.
If it comes back then I guess I'll just place an order for 10g. There are some very good MDMA vendors on here but I've got to go with the best price unless there's a good reason not to (eg vendor has bad shipping record).
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Hi alll
We have hold all the listing down there where to much orders last 2 days 200+
To hold it safe we first send this orders out then the listing will be up again,
It will take max 2 days,
Greats Dutchaanbod
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I am very happy to hear that!
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Me too actually but fuck Xanax... literally had 20 grams in the cart and passed the fuck out!!!! I was contemplating between 20 or 30 lol... fuck it tho I'll wait for ya Dutch ;)
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ordered 10g on Tuesday. Was set to "in transit" today, I hope it will get here in 4 days.
Update: Nothing arrived today. It was sent out 5 days ago.. It usually needs 4.. :-\ I wrote ghim a message
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ordered 10g on Tuesday. Was set to "in transit" today, I hope it will get here in 4 days.
Update: Nothing arrived today. It was sent out 5 days ago.. It usually needs 4.. :-\ I wrote ghim a message
I mean that's an extremely small window of time to message him with concern. The postal system fluctuates and Dutch has been backed up.
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The same number works for the US postal service and the German service.
THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME THIS! +1 +1 +1 !!!!!!!
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ordered 10g on Tuesday. Was set to "in transit" today, I hope it will get here in 4 days.
Update: Nothing arrived today. It was sent out 5 days ago.. It usually needs 4.. :-\ I wrote ghim a message
You can't be serious.
seriously, even if you are domestic, wait at least a week before sending a message...especially since he just told us he is swamped with orders at the moment
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My 100g pack arrived today, beautiful shards and weighted in at 117 G (got that special deal!)
Will now finalize and return later with a more detailed review!
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How's the packaging on bulk orders 50-100g ? Don't want details just curious if it's nice and stealth or fairly obvious.
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ordered 10g on Tuesday. Was set to "in transit" today, I hope it will get here in 4 days.
Update: Nothing arrived today. It was sent out 5 days ago.. It usually needs 4.. :-\ I wrote ghim a message
You can't be serious.
seriously, even if you are domestic, wait at least a week before sending a message...especially since he just told us he is swamped with orders at the moment
It's my 4th order here and the last wasn't send out (scammer, but not Dutchannbod!). I haven't got as much trust in shipments as you have. Hope you understand my situation. Thanks
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ordered 10g on Tuesday. Was set to "in transit" today, I hope it will get here in 4 days.
Update: Nothing arrived today. It was sent out 5 days ago.. It usually needs 4.. :-\ I wrote ghim a message
You can't be serious.
seriously, even if you are domestic, wait at least a week before sending a message...especially since he just told us he is swamped with orders at the moment
It's my 4th order here and the last wasn't send out (scammer, but not Dutchannbod!). I haven't got as much trust in shipments as you have. Hope you understand my situation. Thanks
Quick fucking up SR for the rest of us. It's people like you that drive away out good sellers like PF, SES, SKYY, etc.
You can't flood their mailbox, especially after 4 days. I don't care if you fucking live next door. The delivery time fluctuates, especially if it involves Germany at all. He has 200 orders, the last thing that should take up his time is you stupid-ass "window".
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Thanks for the update Dutch...I mean, I literally refreshed the window and the listing was gone. You had to have done it while I was online. Its cool thou...I definitely have patience when it comes to a deal like this
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ordered 10g on Tuesday. Was set to "in transit" today, I hope it will get here in 4 days.
Update: Nothing arrived today. It was sent out 5 days ago.. It usually needs 4.. :-\ I wrote ghim a message
You can't be serious.
seriously, even if you are domestic, wait at least a week before sending a message...especially since he just told us he is swamped with orders at the moment
It's my 4th order here and the last wasn't send out (scammer, but not Dutchannbod!). I haven't got as much trust in shipments as you have. Hope you understand my situation. Thanks
Quick fucking up SR for the rest of us. It's people like you that drive away out good sellers like PF, SES, SKYY, etc.
You can't flood their mailbox, especially after 4 days. I don't care if you fucking live next door. The delivery time fluctuates, especially if it involves Germany at all. He has 200 orders, the last thing that should take up his time is you stupid-ass "window".
Agree. They need to add retards like that to the buyer blacklist. If you can't wait a week for a package without shitting your pants, you don't belong here.
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hopefully my pin will be reset by the time he gets back.. (the only thing tha tstopped me from ordering 100g when he didn't require FE).. But you know what fuck it , its only like 1600$ total, that aint shit .. ill gamble it when his listiings are back up.. :P
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My 100g pack arrived today, beautiful shards and weighted in at 117 G (got that special deal!)
Will now finalize and return later with a more detailed review!
Great news! Thanks for the update DeadRa7! Looking forward to your detailed review!
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Okay peeps, here is my full review of my last order from Dutchaanbod.
ORDER: 100G's/ Received 117 and some change-Thank you for the bonus! 6/5, what a fucking steal
SHIPPING: Ordered on the 10th, shipped on the 11th and I received on the 26th to Upper Midwest. His shipping was VERY stealth, and vacuum sealed as it should be. He provided me tracking info right off the bat, and it was fully accurate-I knew before it was going to get here when it was actually going to arrive, which was very nice. I did have to sign, but I don't give a fuck. Another thing I'd like to add that unlike with the other German vendors I've used (pf and ah), his bags were NOT grooved on the inside-meaning that your particles will have no where to get stuck-this was very nice as those bags ate up my profit. 5/5 for being keeping my safety in mind, thank you so much!
COMMUNICATION: Unlike some people *cough*flyerz*cough* (-1 by the way, your a cunt for wasting my vendors time), I only received one message from him which was my tracking info. I put my order in resolution with an extension and he approved my time extension promptly (which actually turned out to not even be necessary) 5/5
PRODUCT: The picture on page 6 is identical to what I received, so there is no point in me posting another picture. I have yet to give it a go (fuck, its only Wednesday) but I know good molly when I see it and this is the real deal right here. A bunch of shards and powder and the smell of sass hit me instantly. I will update this later once I've let a few people give it a go, but no doubt in my mind it's the quality that I've come to know and love on here. 5/5
Overall, I am VERY pleased with this vendor and the service he provided me. I would fear not with ordering from him, although I was able to stay in escrow the entire time I can tell he's good people-very polite.
Fuck the haters, Your the new go to man for me Dutch-and again THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Much love from the midwest, Your going to make hundreds of people VERY happy.
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Okay peeps, here is my full review of my last order from Dutchaanbod.
ORDER: 100G's/ Received 117 and some change-Thank you for the bonus! 6/5, what a fucking steal
SHIPPING: Ordered on the 10th, shipped on the 11th and I received on the 26th to Upper Midwest. His shipping was VERY stealth, and vacuum sealed as it should be. He provided me tracking info right off the bat, and it was fully accurate-I knew before it was going to get here when it was actually going to arrive, which was very nice. I did have to sign, but I don't give a fuck. Another thing I'd like to add that unlike with the other German vendors I've used (pf and ah), his bags were NOT grooved on the inside-meaning that your particles will have no where to get stuck-this was very nice as those bags ate up my profit. 5/5 for being keeping my safety in mind, thank you so much!
COMMUNICATION: Unlike some people *cough*flyerz*cough* (-1 by the way, your a cunt for wasting my vendors time), I only received one message from him which was my tracking info. I put my order in resolution with an extension and he approved my time extension promptly (which actually turned out to not even be necessary) 5/5
PRODUCT: The picture on page 6 is identical to what I received, so there is no point in me posting another picture. I have yet to give it a go (fuck, its only Wednesday) but I know good molly when I see it and this is the real deal right here. A bunch of shards and powder and the smell of sass hit me instantly. I will update this later once I've let a few people give it a go, but no doubt in my mind it's the quality that I've come to know and love on here. 5/5
Overall, I am VERY pleased with this vendor and the service he provided me. I would fear not with ordering from him, although I was able to stay in escrow the entire time I can tell he's good people-very polite.
Fuck the haters, Your the new go to man for me Dutch-and again THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Much love from the midwest, Your going to make hundreds of people VERY happy.
Awesome review! I can't wait for my order to come through :)
+1 to you DeadRa7
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Okay peeps, here is my full review of my last order from Dutchaanbod.
ORDER: 100G's/ Received 117 and some change-Thank you for the bonus! 6/5, what a fucking steal
SHIPPING: Ordered on the 10th, shipped on the 11th and I received on the 26th to Upper Midwest. His shipping was VERY stealth, and vacuum sealed as it should be. He provided me tracking info right off the bat, and it was fully accurate-I knew before it was going to get here when it was actually going to arrive, which was very nice. I did have to sign, but I don't give a fuck. Another thing I'd like to add that unlike with the other German vendors I've used (pf and ah), his bags were NOT grooved on the inside-meaning that your particles will have no where to get stuck-this was very nice as those bags ate up my profit. 5/5 for being keeping my safety in mind, thank you so much!
COMMUNICATION: Unlike some people *cough*flyerz*cough* (-1 by the way, your a cunt for wasting my vendors time), I only received one message from him which was my tracking info. I put my order in resolution with an extension and he approved my time extension promptly (which actually turned out to not even be necessary) 5/5
PRODUCT: The picture on page 6 is identical to what I received, so there is no point in me posting another picture. I have yet to give it a go (fuck, its only Wednesday) but I know good molly when I see it and this is the real deal right here. A bunch of shards and powder and the smell of sass hit me instantly. I will update this later once I've let a few people give it a go, but no doubt in my mind it's the quality that I've come to know and love on here. 5/5
Overall, I am VERY pleased with this vendor and the service he provided me. I would fear not with ordering from him, although I was able to stay in escrow the entire time I can tell he's good people-very polite.
Fuck the haters, Your the new go to man for me Dutch-and again THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Much love from the midwest, Your going to make hundreds of people VERY happy.
+1 karma. Thanks dude
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woooow that was hot!!great to hear.things are looking good
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Hey Dutch:
I read above that deadra7 had to sign... is there any way you can ship 100grams with out me having to sign?
BTW great review...!
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Okay peeps, here is my full review of my last order from Dutchaanbod.
ORDER: 100G's/ Received 117 and some change-Thank you for the bonus! 6/5, what a fucking steal
SHIPPING: Ordered on the 10th, shipped on the 11th and I received on the 26th to Upper Midwest. His shipping was VERY stealth, and vacuum sealed as it should be. He provided me tracking info right off the bat, and it was fully accurate-I knew before it was going to get here when it was actually going to arrive, which was very nice. I did have to sign, but I don't give a fuck. Another thing I'd like to add that unlike with the other German vendors I've used (pf and ah), his bags were NOT grooved on the inside-meaning that your particles will have no where to get stuck-this was very nice as those bags ate up my profit. 5/5 for being keeping my safety in mind, thank you so much!
COMMUNICATION: Unlike some people *cough*flyerz*cough* (-1 by the way, your a cunt for wasting my vendors time), I only received one message from him which was my tracking info. I put my order in resolution with an extension and he approved my time extension promptly (which actually turned out to not even be necessary) 5/5
PRODUCT: The picture on page 6 is identical to what I received, so there is no point in me posting another picture. I have yet to give it a go (fuck, its only Wednesday) but I know good molly when I see it and this is the real deal right here. A bunch of shards and powder and the smell of sass hit me instantly. I will update this later once I've let a few people give it a go, but no doubt in my mind it's the quality that I've come to know and love on here. 5/5
Overall, I am VERY pleased with this vendor and the service he provided me. I would fear not with ordering from him, although I was able to stay in escrow the entire time I can tell he's good people-very polite.
Fuck the haters, Your the new go to man for me Dutch-and again THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Much love from the midwest, Your going to make hundreds of people VERY happy.
This is almost exactly my experience, minus the 20% bonus, and I do have to add the signing freaked me out because I didn't realize that I'd have to, but it ended up being OK despite my paranoia. once again I'll update on Saturday after me and a few friends have tried it out. and I do realllyyy really like the bags they come in, the lack of grooves is great.
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Probably some postman's ask for signing so i can not guarantee that you don have to sign with tracking
Normal you don have to,
Will update this on my profile also ,
Greats DA
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Dutchaanbod if I order early next week, will it be the same batch/quality?
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Hi
We mdma we use will never change it will always the same quality :)
greats
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Hey Dutch:
I read above that deadra7 had to sign... is there any way you can ship 100grams with out me having to sign?
BTW great review...!
I still don't get it why are you people so damn afraid to sign? You have a fobia of social interaction? Not "knowingly" signing for a drug shipment is not incriminating in the US or EU.
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Hi again guys
I would like to know if it's normal that I'm not able to trace my package 8 days after my order changed to: "in transit". atm. I got 10 days until auto-finalize? I've never recieved any tracking links through USPS before, so that's why I'm asking (and I dont want to spam Dutchaanbod's mailbox). The package will be sent to a country beside Germany.
and btw. I don't believe that Dutchaanbod is trying to scam me (he seems to be reliable)
To Dutchaanbod:
I feel sorry for sending the same messages 4 times (it was an accident and I even tried to delete those messages). It happened because I clicked too many times on send through my Android cellphone (I didn't knew it would send multiple messages). I didn't reply because I can imagine how many messages you get at the moment.
Have a nice day everyone
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Arrived today. Weighted exactly 10g and his packaging is fucking stealth ! Thanks.
@haters
You haven't done a fault, right?
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so dutch is there anyway u can ship without tracking?
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Arrived today. Weighted exactly 10g and his packaging is fucking stealth ! Thanks.
@haters
You haven't done a fault, right?
No one is hating bro. We all just hope you be a little more patience next time. My order is on day 19 and I honestly wont message him about it until day 30. Hell, I'm not even worried at all. Understand that these vendors have no control of when the package is gonna get delivered to you once they send it out. Just sit tight and have faith cause when you act like you do, you ruin it for the rest of us.
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Arrived today. Weighted exactly 10g and his packaging is fucking stealth ! Thanks.
@haters
You haven't done a fault, right?
No one is hating bro. We all just hope you be a little more patience next time. My order is on day 19 and I honestly wont message him about it until day 30. Hell, I'm not even worried at all. Understand that these vendors have no control of when the package is gonna get delivered to you once they send it out. Just sit tight and have faith cause when you act like you do, you ruin it for the rest of us.
LOL I sent him almost the exact same message in a PM as you
I <3 this place
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Arrived today. Weighted exactly 10g and his packaging is fucking stealth ! Thanks.
@haters
You haven't done a fault, right?
No one is hating bro. We all just hope you be a little more patience next time. My order is on day 19 and I honestly wont message him about it until day 30. Hell, I'm not even worried at all. Understand that these vendors have no control of when the package is gonna get delivered to you once they send it out. Just sit tight and have faith cause when you act like you do, you ruin it for the rest of us.
I learned my lesson. I have more patience next time. Yes, today I learned a few things. I have to say thanks. You might open my eyes of patience :) Sorry @all !
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Arrived today. Weighted exactly 10g and his packaging is fucking stealth ! Thanks.
@haters
You haven't done a fault, right?
No one is hating bro. We all just hope you be a little more patience next time. My order is on day 19 and I honestly wont message him about it until day 30. Hell, I'm not even worried at all. Understand that these vendors have no control of when the package is gonna get delivered to you once they send it out. Just sit tight and have faith cause when you act like you do, you ruin it for the rest of us.
what country are you in?
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Any reviews on the coke?
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C&p from coke thread:
Had a delivery from dutchaanbod. Fucking 12 days from DE to UK. Still, can't blame him for the mail system I suppose.
Has anyone had a bit of his gear since he came back? This is the 2nd bit I've got off him - the first bit was fucking awesome, real strong coke smell and a great buzz on a tiny line. This 2nd time is obviously a new batch. It's still pretty strong, but not as strong as the first lot, and it fucking hums like it was shipped in soap or something.
Don't get me wrong, it's still bloody nice gear, no burn going up and it does give off some nice euphoria, but the soap smell is nearly overwhelming.
Anyone experienced this?
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Those of you that order 50g+ which includes tracking....what's your expectation if the package doesn't make it and the tracking information shows it didn't make it? I'm just curious.
I'm tempted to order 20g (the price goes down a little when you order more than 1 of the 10g) but I'm not sure if that's the logical thing to do.
If buying 50g meant that I could be sure I'd get the package or get a refund then I'd probably say fuck it and just buy 50g. Lifetime personal supply for myself and friends.
I'm in the US. Years past I'd get packs from China sometimes with 1kg of chemicals but the shipping, packing, guarantee, relationship, etc were all different from what we've got here.
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I had 50g coke turn up mate - the packaging is top notch, proper stealth. Def get past us customs no worries
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Those of you that order 50g+ which includes tracking....what's your expectation if the package doesn't make it and the tracking information shows it didn't make it? I'm just curious.
I'm tempted to order 20g (the price goes down a little when you order more than 1 of the 10g) but I'm not sure if that's the logical thing to do.
If buying 50g meant that I could be sure I'd get the package or get a refund then I'd probably say fuck it and just buy 50g. Lifetime personal supply for myself and friends.
I'm in the US. Years past I'd get packs from China sometimes with 1kg of chemicals but the shipping, packing, guarantee, relationship, etc were all different from what we've got here.
My expectation is to change drops, lay low for a while and lament my lost money while hoping the cops don't have anything to go on. Because 10+ is a lot more worrisome to me then 1k and you can bet your ass that if they seize that much at customs they are going to ask questions. That being said the bulk venders on here know what they are doing and want to try their best to prevent that from happening, and honestly I think you are much safer getting mdma then weed/hash, if only because of the slimness and lack, or rather lesser, smell.
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Great review Dead! Ill sleep a little easier tonight. Not that i expected anything different from Dutch!
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Is there signature required?
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okay sooo after all the GREAT news from everyone on here.with orders in bulk. they placed there order.
so ill kp u all posted with how it goes for them.good luck to everyone else..
thank u all for the great info. :-*
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My 10g came in, took less than 10 days to US east coast. Packaging pretty good, not crazy stealth like drnyx but adequate. Weight on point, did reagent tests and they all had fast fizzling reactions.
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How many packages haven't found their way to the owner? just curious
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so dutch is there anyway u can ship without tracking?
under 50g ships w/o tracking.
After reading some reports and considering my past experiences, I think I'm more comfortable WITH tracking. 50g is also a better per-gram deal, especially when you factor in the shipping cost.
It seems to me that the people that get busted on delivery are people on probation. If you've got a felony (especially for drugs) or you're on probation then you shouldn't be getting anything delivered to your name or your address. In my opinion you're more likely to get busted and if you've already sentencing is often worse for people with previous drug convictions.
I wouldn't want to order like 250g though. I remember reading a story several years ago. Some people had like a teddy bear or something delivered that was stuffed to mdma. The DEA put a GPS tracking device into the bear. The receiver moved the package to another house and put it under the bed for a few days as I recall. They eventually opened the package and I think that's when they got busted. All the precautions probably affirmed their guilt.
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... Teddy bear? rofl
There are actually better places, that's just I'm going to spend 30 seconds to think of a great idea instead of sitting down and thinking about places that won't get searched. They don't turn the house into a pile of splinters.
I understand the teddy bear was for "stealth" shipping but they obviously fucked that one.
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C&p from coke thread:
Had a delivery from dutchaanbod. Fucking 12 days from DE to UK. Still, can't blame him for the mail system I suppose.
Has anyone had a bit of his gear since he came back? This is the 2nd bit I've got off him - the first bit was fucking awesome, real strong coke smell and a great buzz on a tiny line. This 2nd time is obviously a new batch. It's still pretty strong, but not as strong as the first lot, and it fucking hums like it was shipped in soap or something.
Don't get me wrong, it's still bloody nice gear, no burn going up and it does give off some nice euphoria, but the soap smell is nearly overwhelming.
Anyone experienced this?
Hello,
Someone have information about the second batch????
I have make a big order(100g because first batch was great) but if it's really smelling soap... i'm a little bit anxious..
So if someone can speak about his experience that will be great.
Thank you very much.
ps: normally i will received my 100g of mdma very soon i will do a full review on forum (Monday-Thuesday)
Skunk!!
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Orders under 50g, was there a signature required at the door?
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C&p from coke thread:
Had a delivery from dutchaanbod. Fucking 12 days from DE to UK. Still, can't blame him for the mail system I suppose.
Has anyone had a bit of his gear since he came back? This is the 2nd bit I've got off him - the first bit was fucking awesome, real strong coke smell and a great buzz on a tiny line. This 2nd time is obviously a new batch. It's still pretty strong, but not as strong as the first lot, and it fucking hums like it was shipped in soap or something.
Don't get me wrong, it's still bloody nice gear, no burn going up and it does give off some nice euphoria, but the soap smell is nearly overwhelming.
Anyone experienced this?
Hello,
Someone have information about the second batch????
I have make a big order(100g because first batch was great) but if it's really smelling soap... i'm a little bit anxious..
So if someone can speak about his experience that will be great.
Thank you very much.
ps: normally i will received my 100g of mdma very soon i will do a full review on forum (Monday-Thuesday)
Skunk!!
it's good gear mate, no complaints from any customers of mine, and no one even mentioned the soap smell, so it must just be due to that amount i got that smell from it when opening the big bag when it turned up
Orders under 50g, was there a signature required at the door?
i got a 50g order tracked mate, no signature required for it - just turned up on my doorstep while i was at work
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6 days until auto-finalize date. Just keeping you guys updated, not panicked by any means
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Hasn't it been 2 days yet? haha Been waiting to put in my order and stalking the page. ;D
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Listing will be back up tomorrow :)
Greats DA
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Here's my better review on his MDMA.
Communication: 5/5. Very fast reply to my message (<6h). *I learned my lesson*
Stealth: 5/5. Was very stealth packaged. I was definitely surprised! Best packaging I saw so far.
Quality: ?/5. I licked a bit of my finger and it was very bitter and a chemical, but that's just my opinion(like MDMA). A few friends of mine tested it yesterday. One told me, he hasen't got the full strong effect of MDMA. The effects was weak for them. because of HIGH TOLERANCE. They roll once a week.
UPDATE: Another friend told me 5mins ago, it's good gear.
Price: Definitely insane ! I think the price for this MDMA is more than OK !
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Just ordered 50g of Blow. Never had a bad experience with Dutchaanbod and haven't ordered for a while from him and he was the first guy I bought Blow from so thought I'd go back to roots. Expecting good things. :)
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Here's my better review on his MDMA.
Communication: 5/5. Very fast reply to my message (<6h). *I learned my lesson*
Stealth: 5/5. Was very stealth packaged. I was definitely surprised! Best packaging I saw so far.
Quality: ?/5. I licked a bit of my finger and it was very bitter and a chemical, but that's just my opinion(like MDMA). A few friends of mine tested it yesterday. They told me, they haven't got the full strong effect of MDMA. The effects were slightly noticeable, but I think they have a high tolerance and should make a MDMA break, because they take it once a week. What do you think about that?
Price: Definitely insane ! I think the price for this MDMA is more than OK !
I have 30grams in the cart but they whole "slightly noticeable" affect like what ... feel theres always newbs and hatters!! Lost of talk about AH product and I dropped a .2 and was floored in an amazing heavenly way.. and I know my shit.. anyone with some posts and experience with pf, CS, Ah, ST care to chime in on dutch? just weird and soryr bro but saying its weak makes me think there just not rollers and used to cut US bullshit... I find that with many of my clients they are looking for that speedy bomb but it never comes since it is actually pure!!
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Here's my better review on his MDMA.
Communication: 5/5. Very fast reply to my message (<6h). *I learned my lesson*
Stealth: 5/5. Was very stealth packaged. I was definitely surprised! Best packaging I saw so far.
Quality: ?/5. I licked a bit of my finger and it was very bitter and a chemical, but that's just my opinion(like MDMA). A few friends of mine tested it yesterday. They told me, they haven't got the full strong effect of MDMA. The effects were slightly noticeable, but I think they have a high tolerance and should make a MDMA break, because they take it once a week. What do you think about that?
Price: Definitely insane ! I think the price for this MDMA is more than OK !
I have 30grams in the cart but they whole "slightly noticeable" affect like what ... feel theres always newbs and hatters!! Lost of talk about AH product and I dropped a .2 and was floored in an amazing heavenly way.. and I know my shit.. anyone with some posts and experience with pf, CS, Ah, ST care to chime in on dutch? just weird and soryr bro but saying its weak makes me think there just not rollers and used to cut US bullshit... I find that with many of my clients they are looking for that speedy bomb but it never comes since it is actually pure!!
I update my post right now. My friends have a high tolerance.. they roll once a week. As you see up there another friend told me it's good stuff!
Dutch is a very professional vendor!
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Here's my better review on his MDMA.
Communication: 5/5. Very fast reply to my message (<6h). *I learned my lesson*
Stealth: 5/5. Was very stealth packaged. I was definitely surprised! Best packaging I saw so far.
Quality: ?/5. I licked a bit of my finger and it was very bitter and a chemical, but that's just my opinion(like MDMA). A few friends of mine tested it yesterday. They told me, they haven't got the full strong effect of MDMA. The effects were slightly noticeable, but I think they have a high tolerance and should make a MDMA break, because they take it once a week. What do you think about that?
Price: Definitely insane ! I think the price for this MDMA is more than OK !
I have 30grams in the cart but they whole "slightly noticeable" affect like what ... feel theres always newbs and hatters!! Lost of talk about AH product and I dropped a .2 and was floored in an amazing heavenly way.. and I know my shit.. anyone with some posts and experience with pf, CS, Ah, ST care to chime in on dutch? just weird and sorry bro but saying its weak makes me think there just not rollers and used to cut US bullshit... I find that with many of my clients they are looking for that speedy bomb but it never comes since it is actually pure!!
I totally agree, though I have not had a chance to test dutch's molly yet, I'm sure it will be great. I'm currently waiting on a large order from Dutch and also ST (Not from this account obviously). I feel that most people in the US are so used to the cut bullshit that is the norm, that they don't know what true MDMA is until it smacks them in the face. They don't realize a clean, pure dose of MDMA is maybe 2-4 hours solid, not the 6-8 hour speedy roll you'll find from much of the bullshit in the US. SuperTrips is the best molly I've ever had to date but I'm sure dutch's will be anything but "weak". You should really try what you bought for yourself.
- Hashbean
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Here's my better review on his MDMA.
Communication: 5/5. Very fast reply to my message (<6h). *I learned my lesson*
Stealth: 5/5. Was very stealth packaged. I was definitely surprised! Best packaging I saw so far.
Quality: ?/5. I licked a bit of my finger and it was very bitter and a chemical, but that's just my opinion(like MDMA). A few friends of mine tested it yesterday. They told me, they haven't got the full strong effect of MDMA. The effects were slightly noticeable, but I think they have a high tolerance and should make a MDMA break, because they take it once a week. What do you think about that?
Price: Definitely insane ! I think the price for this MDMA is more than OK !
I have 30grams in the cart but they whole "slightly noticeable" affect like what ... feel theres always newbs and hatters!! Lost of talk about AH product and I dropped a .2 and was floored in an amazing heavenly way.. and I know my shit.. anyone with some posts and experience with pf, CS, Ah, ST care to chime in on dutch? just weird and sorry bro but saying its weak makes me think there just not rollers and used to cut US bullshit... I find that with many of my clients they are looking for that speedy bomb but it never comes since it is actually pure!!
I totally agree, though I have not had a chance to test dutch's molly yet, I'm sure it will be great. I'm currently waiting on a large order from Dutch and also ST (Not from this account obviously). I feel that most people in the US are so used to the cut bullshit that is the norm, that they don't know what true MDMA is until it smacks them in the face. They don't realize a clean, pure dose of MDMA is maybe 2-4 hours solid, not the 6-8 hour speedy roll you'll find from much of the bullshit in the US. SuperTrips is the best molly I've ever had to date but I'm sure dutch's will be anything but "weak". You should really try what you bought for yourself.
- Hashbean
Please read my message correct! For my friends it's weak, because they have a HIGH Tolerance..
Dutch's gear is strong !
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^^ we all know its top quality just saying here in America people always question why my rolls and molly only have a 2-3 hour peak and thats cause of one dose its all it should be.. I have a high tolerance as well and start with a .2 but we were just saying most ppl in the states never had pure and its almost like a whole knew drug with them.. its either cut to shit or M1.. I show sooo may dealers there shit is M1 with a simple marquis lol!!
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^^ we all know its top quality just saying here in America people always question why my rolls and molly only have a 2-3 hour peak and thats cause of one dose its all it should be.. I have a high tolerance as well and start with a .2 but we were just saying most ppl in the states never had pure and its almost like a whole knew drug with them.. its either cut to shit or M1.. I show sooo may dealers there shit is M1 with a simple marquis lol!!
Excause me , fucking missunderstanding ;) What is M1?
I'll tell my friends about the dose of .2 My friends said it's wasn't a strong roll for them (an example with LSD: they took 150uq, but it felt like only 100uq and sometimes it feels like 300uq. Do you understand ? Perhaps the Set and Setting wasn't perfect yesterday *That doesn't mean it's weak* *That's just an example* )
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^^ we all know its top quality just saying here in America people always question why my rolls and molly only have a 2-3 hour peak and thats cause of one dose its all it should be.. I have a high tolerance as well and start with a .2 but we were just saying most ppl in the states never had pure and its almost like a whole knew drug with them.. its either cut to shit or M1.. I show sooo may dealers there shit is M1 with a simple marquis lol!!
Excause me , fucking missunderstanding ;) What is M1?
I'll tell my friends about the dose of .2 My friends said it's wasn't a strong roll for them (an example with LSD: they took 150uq, but it felt like only 100uq and sometimes it feels like 300uq. Do you understand ? Perhaps the Set and Setting wasn't perfect yesterday *That doesn't mean it's weak* *That's just an example* )
M1 = Methylone (check erowid for accurate info).
it is a Research Chemical with effects are "similar" to MDMA but weaker and shorter.
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Recap of my experiences last night:
Me: 3/4 green ? from ST, +40mg +40mg of dutch's
T: 2 green ?, + 50mg dutch (hes been popping for 5 years, so he has a decent tolerance)
K: 105mg + 48mg (T+1:00)
Y: 105mg + 55mg (T+1:00)
Come up for all 4 of us was smooth, the come up on dutch's crystal was faster then on ST's ?s. took about 20-30 mins to start being felt, then was very smooth all the way up. peak was about 2 1/2 - 3 hrs.
Come up for me - initial dose of 3/4 ? + 40mg dutch, The 40 mg onset for me around the same time as the other two, but I had a longer come up due to the dosing I suppose.
T: popped 1 green, (he normally gobbles about a half gram of US standard), half hour: popped another green since we were coming up and he wasn't yet.
Dutch's straight is really nice, the two friends that took his straight said it was easily the best they had ever tried, and they way they were referencing "The brown stuff" made it seem like they had previously had PF's stuff. Although I can't be sure on that point. they normally drop about .2, but .15 was good for them, toping up the other 50 about an hour in was great, I think more so then it would have been just at all one go. but yes it was exceptionally smooth and in no way overwhelming, we just cuddled up passed around massages, did light shows and in general had a great time. the come down was also smooth for all 4 of us, although we all experienced minor insomia, probably something to do with taking it so late. I'm writing this the next day, no one has any signs of depression or discomfort, just very peaceful and relaxed.
Me and T smoked while peaking (I smoked a cigar he smoked a half pack) and our peaks were slightly longer I went for about 4 hours and he went 3 1/2.
In short: Dutch's stuff is amazing, especially when you look at the price. Smooth come up, extremely pleasant peak and almost no crash, with only a very mild hang over the next day (light sensitivity, and sleepiness, but I think the later comes from being up so late) If you were still on the fence, get off it and get on Dutch's stuff, you'll be glad you did.
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FINALLY, someone with decently priced mandy.
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Literally .1 bicoins short to make dutchaand's listing...
if there is anyone out there looking for some karma (actualy not board karma) hit me uppp: 3J78N9XV
i will love you forever. would love to try his stuff and compare to other vendors (would also love to perfectly clear out bitcoins)
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Slightly off topic, but Citystar is totally right. Crystal methylone seems to be flooding the streets here in the US. Kids go crazy over these <$1000 ounces of "molly", but don't have the brains to literally spend less than a dollar per per test on a testing kid. I feel even worse for whoever they're pushing this shit to, as they're probably paying 100+ a gram just for methylone.
Friend of mine went to a big music festival recently and said he was only able to find one person whose stuff marquised black, a lot of other shit was turning up yellow. Yuck.
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I've gotten MDMA from two different sources. The first was clear/white (not from SR). The other is from Rinran. I don't see how they could not be real based on the effects, although I can't rule out either of them having MDA I suppose.
I hear people often take like a 150mg dose and then take another dose later.
A single 100mg will give me a decent roll. It is tempting to take another dose a few hours later but I've been avoiding that recently. I will at that time need to take some stimulants...Adderall or Desoxyn (pharma meth) or coke. There seems to be a synergistic effect with the MDMA because several hours I'm still feeling the effects of the MDMA. I used MDMA last night and now tonight I'm having to take Valium because there's so much Serotonin floating around in my head right now; I've had like 2 hours of crap sleep since taking the MDMA yesterday.
Similar effects for my girlfriend.
In my opinion the MDMA from trusted vendors on SR is pretty pure. I wouldn't mind washing it but to more accurately determine quality but I kind of think some of the MDMA itself might get lost in that process.
Since I'm taking a lower dose of MDMA (I'm ~190 pounds btw) hopefully my tolerance build up won't be as bad as others. I fucking love MDMA.
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Just ordered 50g of Blow. Never had a bad experience with Dutchaanbod and haven't ordered for a while from him and he was the first guy I bought Blow from so thought I'd go back to roots. Expecting good things. :)
please review, not enough people leaving reviews for vendors C
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Just ordered 50g of Blow. Never had a bad experience with Dutchaanbod and haven't ordered for a while from him and he was the first guy I bought Blow from so thought I'd go back to roots. Expecting good things. :)
please review, not enough people leaving reviews for vendors C
This, if the stuff is good im gonna be ordering 50g myself.
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Slightly off topic, but Citystar is totally right. Crystal methylone seems to be flooding the streets here in the US. Kids go crazy over these <$1000 ounces of "molly", but don't have the brains to literally spend less than a dollar per per test on a testing kid. I feel even worse for whoever they're pushing this shit to, as they're probably paying 100+ a gram just for methylone.
Friend of mine went to a big music festival recently and said he was only able to find one person whose stuff marquised black, a lot of other shit was turning up yellow. Yuck.
I totally agree. And what pure MDMA is out there is getting taxed to high hell. I would never charge over 100$ for a gram of pure MDMA, even then I'd feel bad. My buddy bought a g the other day, and I'm always telling my friends to be careful buying 'molly' from other people, i checked it out and it looks top notch, but they paid 130$ for the gram!! I usually charge 80$, for the same if not better product.
The American MDMA market on the streets fucking sucks. But reading the forums it seems like we're taking matters into our own hands and taking advantage of Holland's great shit. I know I am ; )
I'm going to a Bassnectar show soon, I'm gonna blow some kids minds with some well priced pure shit.
Normally at these shows it's 10$-15$ caps of some bullshit unknown powder, or 20$ tenths of pure (if u can even find that there) or Chicago Mints for 20$-25$ a pill (which i feel is a ripoff as i've never eaten one that had more than 100mg in it)
Let's get some good ole American ambition in here and give these kids the kind of rolls they're paying for!!!!
Sorry for the rant. It's just my personal story with X is I started doing rolls in highschool, all of which I'm sure were bullshit, but i was too young and naive to know anything. I eventually quit because i didn't like being in cold sweats, not being able to sleep because of shitty pills.
Then my girlfriend introduced me to pure MDMA crystals months later. THEN, after like 6 months of experimenting with amazing pure shit, our supplier got arrested and it was gone. That's when I had to go look for new dealers and learned that alot of the 'molly' out there is bullshit.
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Just ordered 50g of Blow. Never had a bad experience with Dutchaanbod and haven't ordered for a while from him and he was the first guy I bought Blow from so thought I'd go back to roots. Expecting good things. :)
please review, not enough people leaving reviews for vendors C
This, if the stuff is good im gonna be ordering 50g myself.
Yeah will do guys, I always make sure to leave a review for whoever I buy from anyway. :)
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Hey guys so I'm bout to order 30 grams of mdma but am think should i do 40 since thats most with escrow.. heard stealth is great and AH has taken me like 30 days and zero stealth but main question is theres no difference worse case at customs between 30 and 40 right lol? I know my laws juts high and IMO that amount is till too much work and all lol if ya know what i me, goes ay beyond some pack I never heard of ;)
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Hey guys so I'm bout to order 30 grams of mdma but am think should i do 40 since thats most with escrow.
He's offering escrow regardless of size and simply asking to finalize once it gets through customs. Personally I'm more comfortable with that than I am having no tracking at all and only getting a 20% refund if it doesn't show. I've order 30g instead of 50g if I could get the 30g with tracking but no big deal ... I'm not a dealer or anything but I highly doubt the extra molly will go to waste in the end.
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"I've order 30g instead of 50g if I could get the 30g with tracking but no big deal ... I'm not a dealer or anything" I think you are lying to yourself ???
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"I've order 30g instead of 50g if I could get the 30g with tracking but no big deal ... I'm not a dealer or anything" I think you are lying to yourself ???
hahaha i dont know why but this cracked me up.
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can some one please explain his whole escrow thing?so we dont FE until its in the USA.?right?
any one please explain??thanks
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can some one please explain his whole escrow thing?so we dont FE until its in the USA.?right?
any one please explain??thanks
Once the tracking shows that it has reached customs, you are to release the funds. Will be hard to enforce on his end but if you plan on doing business with him again in the future, id recommend you finalize.
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"I've order 30g instead of 50g if I could get the 30g with tracking but no big deal ... I'm not a dealer or anything" I think you are lying to yourself ???
lol, well....I've never sold drugs anyway. I'm a hoarder for these things I guess.
My first molly weighed 5g and disappeared way faster than it should have.
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can some one please explain his whole escrow thing?so we dont FE until its in the USA.?right?
any one please explain??thanks
Once the tracking shows that it has reached customs, you are to release the funds. Will be hard to enforce on his end but if you plan on doing business with him again in the future, id recommend you finalize.
thank u Crazybart .so once its in customs.?? i thought it was once it passed customs??
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can some one please explain his whole escrow thing?so we dont FE until its in the USA.?right?
any one please explain??thanks
Once the tracking shows that it has reached customs, you are to release the funds. Will be hard to enforce on his end but if you plan on doing business with him again in the future, id recommend you finalize.
Just once it shows it has arrived at customs.
It is not very accurate and will not always update once it has left customs...Ive had packages delivered to my door that still say they are at customs according to the tracking number online
thank u Crazybart .so once its in customs.?? i thought it was once it passed customs??
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Does anybody know how often he dispatches orders?
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Payment Sent ^^
thanks bro much appreciated.
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To anyone who has ordered and tried Dutch's MDMA, how would you compare it to UGS's tan here in the us? Strength, duration, afterglo?
Honestly price isn't as important as quality, although Dutch's price is pretty kick ass!
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This question is mostly for ya Dutch but anyone that knows or has talked to him can answer... I am either ordering 40 or 50 grams but the catch is I like tracked but not FE.. I have no problem but is it FE once in US customs or German post.. Also according to another German vendor theres no German tracking where it updates you and he says it just says delivered or not so not sure the 10 extra for no escrow is worth it but please let me know.. thanks man looking forward to trying ur shit!!
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anyone who got a tracked package, did you have to sign?
As its registered mail?
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anyone tried his coke yet? all the reviews seem to be bout his mdma
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(hope this helps everyone else.)
Probably all 50gr + orders with tracking have to finalize when its in the USPS post center so it already over the border and you can not lose it anymore,
With the small orders i have to look what we gonna do,
You people hear from me,
Greats Dutchaanbod
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i never bought MDMA from DUTCHAANBOD. but i would try it :)
Can someone say me something to the quality of the current batch?
thx
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lol, well....I've never sold drugs anyway. I'm a hoarder for these things I guess.
My first molly weighed 5g and disappeared way faster than it should have.
Ha Ha yep same, should have lasted me at-least 6 months . All gone in 5 weeks thanks PF!
i never bought MDMA from DUTCHAANBOD. but i would try it :)
Can someone say me something to the quality of the current batch?
thx
Tried Dutch's gear last Thursday and is as good, if not better than PFs gear. l ordered 10grams this time hoping it will last me 12 months at least, it should/will last 4 months this time.i hope!
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This question is mostly for ya Dutch but anyone that knows or has talked to him can answer... I am either ordering 40 or 50 grams but the catch is I like tracked but not FE.. I have no problem but is it FE once in US customs or German post.. Also according to another German vendor theres no German tracking where it updates you and he says it just says delivered or not so not sure the 10 extra for no escrow is worth it but please let me know.. thanks man looking forward to trying ur shit!!
He clarified that you only have to finalize(50+g) once it hits NY ICS(ISC?). The way he figures it, there won't be any risk once it's inside the country past customs. Now when it first hits ICS it won't be through customs yet, but it likely won't update till it gets to your address so might as well Finalize once it hits ICS.
And he can see the same things you can on tracking. just type the tracking number into the USPS tracking site and it will show up the same as it would any other time.
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This question is mostly for ya Dutch but anyone that knows or has talked to him can answer... I am either ordering 40 or 50 grams but the catch is I like tracked but not FE.. I have no problem but is it FE once in US customs or German post.. Also according to another German vendor theres no German tracking where it updates you and he says it just says delivered or not so not sure the 10 extra for no escrow is worth it but please let me know.. thanks man looking forward to trying ur shit!!
He clarified that you only have to finalize(50+g) once it hits NY ICS(ISC?). The way he figures it, there won't be any risk once it's inside the country past customs. Now when it first hits ICS it won't be through customs yet, but it likely won't update till it gets to your address so might as well Finalize once it hits ICS.
And he can see the same things you can on tracking. just type the tracking number into the USPS tracking site and it will show up the same as it would any other time.
+1 man, thanks, guess I missed the ISC part and thought he meant German customs! and guess the other vendor is just lazy and didn't want to ever give out tracking even in resolution haha.. but yea i figured since that always worked and I've had tracking numbers from many countries!
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14 days in-transit. still nothing
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14 days in-transit. still nothing
While some packages seem to be coming through from Germany rather quickly, I've also seen a good few reports of packages from Germany taking 3-4 weeks.
Waiting for packages sucks. In past times I've received my international packages through EMS which is basically just international express/expedited mail but it still goes through the postal system. I'm not sure if those packages were treated any different in customs, but my packages often weighed over 1kg and weren't exactly super stealth and they got through. It was nice receiving packages in several days, although every so often I would hear that somebody had their package stuck in customs for an extended period of time before it was released. And yes seizures did happen. Customs can find stuff that is very stealth but I figure they just can't handle the massive amount of incoming post.
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ok my order came in in 8 business days to NA! very good stealth, product looks good will test this weekend
a question to those who have tried the MDMA,
i have taken it around 10 times, in rave environments, will be doing the same for this weekend, what would a good and significantly strong dose be of this gear? also the dose for a redose?
around 160 pounds, previously have taken 200mg-300mg (irresponsible i know) as first dose of stuff of unknown quality
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14 days in-transit. still nothing
12 days here. Wondering how long the avg to the west coast has been recently.
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12 days(10 working) for 10g order and no sign yet.
west coast usa
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Im on day 11 aswell hopefully we all get our shit tomorrow wouldnt that be sick lol. USA aswell =\
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Day 12 as well, last order from Dutch took 12 so I'm guessing a lot of orders will start showing up in the next few days.
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^wow quite a few no shows so far.
still too early to freakout tho
Leftcoast as well
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Just got my order of 10g to the east coast. Ten business days, good stealth packaging very creative. Tested the gear and it is good stuff. Thank you Dutch!
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Update on my 50g order: 5 days since ship, tracking does not work yet because it's not @ ICS yet.
I'm not worried at all. Even when I've had bad vibes shit goes well, and I get no bad vibes from Dutchaanbod. Anyone who is too paranoid about times maybe should either take a break on the grass (or other various addictions) or find a new line of business/pleasure :)
I'm in it for the business, and if it means making a killing, I'll stay the course, and just order even more next time ;)
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has he marked any orders in transit within the last 3 days? mine has been processing since :/
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
You idiot..please edit out the packaging details! -1 for you dumb fuck!
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
I hope this isnt a joke are u fucking retarded?
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^I know you're excited about recieving your gear, and trust me, I'm very happy that it came to you safe and sound. But I think a lot of the other buyers/dutchaanbod on silk road would agree with me if I asked you to please refrain from revealing important information like that. There's always the chance that LE may be watching the forum, and if so, that post has jeopardized many other people's orders, as well as Dutchaanbod. I really don't want to be a dick, but please don't do that again
-schmuck
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping (vacuum sealed product packed )
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
I hope this isnt a joke are u fucking retarded?
Yo bro i suggest you edit that part of your quoted reply!!
Whats up with all these fucking retards doing shit like this? I saw a feedback on his page a few days back saying the same exact shit!
anywho...has anyone had an order marked in transit within these last 3 days?
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping (vacuum sealed product packed )
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
I hope this isnt a joke are u fucking retarded?
Yo bro i suggest you edit that part of your quoted reply!!
Whats up with all these fucking retards doing shit like this? I saw a feedback on his page a few days back saying the same exact shit!
anywho...has anyone had an order marked in transit within these last 3 days?
me. why do you ask?
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping (vacuum sealed product packed )
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
I hope this isnt a joke are u fucking retarded?
Yo bro i suggest you edit that part of your quoted reply!!
Whats up with all these fucking retards doing shit like this? I saw a feedback on his page a few days back saying the same exact shit!
anywho...has anyone had an order marked in transit within these last 3 days?
me. why do you ask?
I ordered 50g on friday night...and it's still processing :(
how much did you order?
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Reship on 2g's of Cocaine has failed to arrive in Australia. This was for an order of 2.5g that never came at the time D departed SR. Good job all other vendors make it down here!
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping (vacuum sealed product packed )
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
I hope this isnt a joke are u fucking retarded?
Yo bro i suggest you edit that part of your quoted reply!!
Whats up with all these fucking retards doing shit like this? I saw a feedback on his page a few days back saying the same exact shit!
anywho...has anyone had an order marked in transit within these last 3 days?
me. why do you ask?
I ordered 50g on friday night...and it's still processing :(
how much did you order?
10gs. I don't know how much of my experience would apply to you, but I wouldn't really worry about it too much, my order took a few days to process as well. From what I hear, Dutchaanbod's a very busy man. Good for him :D
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping (vacuum sealed product packed )
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
I hope this isnt a joke are u fucking retarded?
Yo bro i suggest you edit that part of your quoted reply!!
Whats up with all these fucking retards doing shit like this? I saw a feedback on his page a few days back saying the same exact shit!
anywho...has anyone had an order marked in transit within these last 3 days?
me. why do you ask?
I ordered 50g on friday night...and it's still processing :(
how much did you order?
10gs. I don't know how much of my experience would apply to you, but I wouldn't really worry about it too much, my order took a few days to process as well. From what I hear, Dutchaanbod's a very busy man. Good for him :D
Cool cool thx bro.. I would rather know that he hasn't yet .. unlike other vendors that mark in transit as soon as you make the order..
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping (**********REMOVE THIS PART********)
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
Remove this shit you fucking dumbass
LE already saw it probably (not that it matters really, way too much traffic through ISC)
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping (XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
I feel like this person is a complete troll. Credibility? none.
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wow, I don't know how it was packaged and I don't want to know but this being revealed on this thread has totally put me off ordering.
Do others think there is a serious risk now?
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wow, I don't know how it was packaged and I don't want to know but this being revealed on this thread has totally put me off ordering.
Do others think there is a serious risk now?
No, the risk has not changed. The guy is an idiot for posting it, but there's zero chance that even if the information was seen by LE, that it would get to Customs and cause any kind of change in monitoring.
If you think that a post on the forums here immediately results in a memo to Customs and a widespread alert to look out for Item X among the MILLIONS of pieces of mail that go through daily...you have no idea how LE and government agencies in general work.
Besides, if the above process were actually how LE reacted to internet forum postings, it would be extremely simple to combat: Flood the forums with hundreds and hundreds of fake packaging methods so it's impossible to differentiate the real from the fake.
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I agree. The guys in customs know the stealth tricks. Good stealth is about making it impractical for customs to find the product without spending time that they don't have available.
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Another point worth mentioning: It probably does more harm than good to have a long series of posts saying "DELETE THAT IMMEDIATELY! DON'T REVEAL PACKAGING INFO!" after someone fucks up and reveals like that. Reason being that it just draws more attention to the thread and original offending post and actually increases that chances of LE seeing it. I know it seems counter-intuitive, but the reality is that fewer people will actually see the offending information if it is just IGNORED and dealt with quietly, rather than being highlighted and pointed out by a bunch of people.
Seems the best thing to do if you see someone post sensitive information is to (1) alert the mods/admin immediately asking them to delete it and (2) send a private message to the person who posted it telling them to delete it.
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:) okay here we go the waiting games begins...we will kp everyone posted .
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Going on 16 days tomorrow, no letter yet.
Getting a little nervous as the last two reviews on his vendor page are about people not getting there mandy
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!! THIS MOLLY IS FUCKING BOMB!!!!!!!!
All I can do is sniff this vapo and blast Kaskade which is probably pissing off my neighbors but fuck them, I'm on my level!!!!!!!
I <3 you ALL! I hope your orders come in soon so you can feel like me 8)
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Has anyone that gotten molly recently confirm if it is different than afterhours? Or do they have the same stuff?
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received my first order from dutchaanbod today
10g good quality mdma . . . really clever & safe shipping
arrived west coast usa in app. 13 working days
+ thumbs up +
LOL---your third post, and look at the Karma-----its really not ok to reveal any shipping info!!! I hope that the social enforcement has done their job in letting you know how bad you fucked up.
Glad you edit----------but in all honesty----------how many LE has already ordered from this guy---------He is such a hit in NA----would not suprise me if DEA bought several hudred grams-----already, but share little information with customs (cause they take home to their wives the small cocked fucks!!) WOuld not matter----only 10-15% of mailings get searched. Its all a number game------unless you tell them what to look for-----hahah------go stick your head in the sand-----if mine gets caught-------I will give you -karma for every 72hours------I love community enforcement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Has anyone recieved dutch's from Australia since comming back?
I ordered from him before PF and found his gear getting through fine so i assumed this would get through no probs due to the increased stealth but it's been a while and seeing these non-arrivals is making me somewhat sketchy.
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Ordered 50 grams MDMA this after noon. I have full faith. :D
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For the people that ordered from Dutch but never got the pkg and received partial refund: Did he give you a tracking number to check at any time during the process? Just wondering if there's any way to confirm that a pkg was ever sent at all.
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For the people that ordered from Dutch but never got the pkg and received partial refund: Did he give you a tracking number to check at any time during the process? Just wondering if there's any way to confirm that a pkg was ever sent at all.
If I'm not mistaken, he's been pretty clear that orders 50g+ have a tracking number and other orders do not. That's why I'm going to order 50g which is a ridiculous amount for me. Some people don't want tracking so they order less than 50g.
I'm not sure if I'll need to sign. I used to assume that the US post always required signature for international packages with tracking but somebody on here said recently they got a tracked package without signing. I don't remember if it was a dutchaanbod package or not.
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Has anyone recieved dutch's from Australia since comming back?
I ordered from him before PF and found his gear getting through fine so i assumed this would get through no probs due to the increased stealth but it's been a while and seeing these non-arrivals is making me somewhat sketchy.
Yeah I'm wondering this too. Delta11's stuff has just been relisted but I'm 4 bitcoins short (anyone wanna do their good deed for the week and loan me???), so I'm now looking at Dutch as reviews are generally good... but the recent no-shows in his profile are a touch worrying.
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can anyone comment on shipping times to the central USA?
Thank you in advance ;)
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FYI just put in an order for C with Dutch, will let y'all know when it arrives as well as a thorough review of the product as there aren't a whole lot going on this thread.
Dutch - looking forward to it!
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How often DUTCHAANBOD sends the stuff ? dayli?
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!! THIS MOLLY IS FUCKING BOMB!!!!!!!!
All I can do is sniff this vapo and blast Kaskade which is probably pissing off my neighbors but fuck them, I'm on my level!!!!!!!
I <3 you ALL! I hope your orders come in soon so you can feel like me 8)
Hey mate, mind telling how long shipping took? I believe me and you are around the same neck of the woods
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dutchaanbod, some of us including myself would add a little cocaine in with our MDMA orders if you allowed us to combine shipping and pay ฿2 once instead of twice. Have you considered that option? You could add "ships with another item ฿0" as a shipping option. We would select the ฿2 shipping option on one item in our cart and the ฿0 shipping option on the other items in our cart.
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Going on 16 days tomorrow, no letter yet.
Getting a little nervous as the last two reviews on his vendor page are about people not getting there mandy
fuck man im on day 13, if nothing shows by friday then Im pretty much hopeless, thought this was the one
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Just to add my 2c here, I would like to thank Dutchaanbod for a fast shipping and very smart and practical packaging. Loved it!
I ordered 10grams of MDMA and it arrived to Central Europe within 6 days (including a WE and a Holiday!). Everything looks just as on the picture (although not as green) and it does looks good ;)
I haven't tried it yet, but from the look and taste of it I am confident it is quality material. Anyway will update once I do :P
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How often DUTCHAANBOD sends the stuff ? dayli?
depends. can wait up to 4 days
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Going on 16 days tomorrow, no letter yet.
Getting a little nervous as the last two reviews on his vendor page are about people not getting there mandy
fuck man im on day 13, if nothing shows by friday then Im pretty much hopeless, thought this was the one
Ive heard it taking up to 3 weeks sometimes, so day 21 is when ill probably write it off
Used to get my shit from PF to the westcoast in 6 days
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Has anyone recieved dutch's from Australia since comming back?
I ordered from him before PF and found his gear getting through fine so i assumed this would get through no probs due to the increased stealth but it's been a while and seeing these non-arrivals is making me somewhat sketchy.
Yeah I'm wondering this too. Delta11's stuff has just been relisted but I'm 4 bitcoins short (anyone wanna do their good deed for the week and loan me???), so I'm now looking at Dutch as reviews are generally good... but the recent no-shows in his profile are a touch worrying.
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I'm in the same boat? ordered about 16 days ago and still waiting. lets hope it gets through
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German post to the US takes 3-4 weeks for some people lately. This is why dutch wanted to require FE because people got bent out of shape too early. Let us know when the packs come in but don't write off packages that haven't arrived in < 21 days please.
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Ah I see, its just my past experiences of packages coming in 7 days made me worry. But if you're all saying 21 days it could take I believe you.
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How is the packing for his MDMA? How many times vacuumed sealed? Also, how is the "letter"? Also can you get it with trackingnumber?
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we do not write detailed informations about the packaging!!!
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we do not write detailed informations about the packaging!!!
Humm, thought that wasn't that detailed, I mean you still can't see if it's vacuumsealed from the outside? :S
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we do not write detailed informations about the packaging!!!
Humm, thought that wasn't that detailed, I mean you still can't see if it's vacuumsealed from the outside? :S
Just know that dutch is very smart and your packaging will be okay your okay bro just go and order.
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we do not write detailed informations about the packaging!!!
Humm, thought that wasn't that detailed, I mean you still can't see if it's vacuumsealed from the outside? :S
Just know that dutch is very smart and your packaging will be okay your okay bro just go and order.
Sure hope so. Made an order for 10g ;P
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Hi all
Please don replay every time that you stile have receive it after 12/13/14/15 days it can take up to 21 days post is sometime very slow we can do noting about that.
And about the shipping fee's the are high because we need to bring package's over the border and the shipping method we use cost also money
Don send me Pm's every time that it is to high got 20/30 message's each day over it,
You want that it come over the border so its cost something,
If you wan to now something first read our profile there stands enough information,
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Dutch is right. While it make take awhile to reach you, you'll be nothing but happy when it finally arrives. So let it go, smoke some herb, or whatever you may do and let that sweet, sweet mandy make it's way to you.
Most of all, bask in the cleverness of the package without revealing it on here. Do us all a favor, and keep it to yourself, make a nice little cheer, cry to the skies, weep quietly into your pillow, masturbate a bit over it, whatever, do what you have to do, but enjoy.
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And about the shipping fee's the are high because we need to bring package's over the border and the shipping method we use cost also money
Please don't misunderstand my previous question in this thread if you're responding to me. I will happily pay the shipping charge but just wanted to know if MDMA and Cocaine could be shipped together so that shipping is only paid once. No big deal though I mostly just want MDMA and don't have to have cocaine. You've got great prices and I'll be placing a 50g order very soon as I'm worried I'll somehow miss out unless I order soon.
Thanks!
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I haven't seen anyone comment on how Dutch's product compares to AfterHour. I would really like to know this. No use asking about SuperTrips because he is no longer an option I am willing to consider. Anyone that has tried other vendors MDMA or know people who have and also had dutch's what was there/your noticeable differences?
Has anyone placed a LARGE order with Dutch and received (recently)? Large meaning 50g+
I am not going to FE, so I am guessing I could order 49g because he said any order 50+ requires FE. What have your experiences been with him as far as asking to FE. Did he ask buyers who have 0% stats + large amounts spent to FE too?
How often DUTCHAANBOD sends the stuff ? dayli?
I highly doubt it, but then again, I am guessing I have never ordered from him.
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I just placed a 100g order. Will keep y'all updated.
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Everyone needs more Benzo's we think.
Do not message vendors about orders from other countries until 30 days has passed!
Understand that Sat is not a delivery day in most of the world nor at many customs checkpoints, so there are 5 working days per week.
If your friend got his order in 7 days last week, that doesn't mean yours will be in 7 day this week. Delivery time from international varies A LOT - it goes up and down. 6 days DE - USA last month could be 22 days this month...
TAKE A VALIUM. Relax. If you want fast, think to order domestic.
example: it is known that mail from EU leaving around 8/25-9/5 has been taking almost 4-5 weeks but is arriving. This is for all vendors. It does not always make sense, but these back logs do happen. There was also a strike.
We say this because good vendors are getting slammed with 30-40 msgs a day of "it 12 days - no pack.. where is it?".
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Has anyone placed a LARGE order with Dutch and received (recently)? Large meaning 50g+
I am not going to FE, so I am guessing I could order 49g because he said any order 50+ requires FE. What have your experiences been with him as far as asking to FE. Did he ask buyers who have 0% stats + large amounts spent to FE too?
for 50g+ he doesn't ask you to finalize until after it has crossed the border into your country. 50g+ orders also have tracking numbers so you can be sure when the package went out, where it is, etc. If you don't receive the pack, he'll know you're telling the truth and he'll know you aren't trying to scam him so I'm guessing he'll be more likely to work with you. For these reasons I'm probably going to order 50g instead of 10g.
I haven't heard anyone on here complain that they got fucked with a 50g+ order (and we've seen orders as big as 250g) but if somebody did then I'd certainly want to know before I order coming up here.
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Everyone needs more Benzo's we think.
Do not message vendors about orders from other countries until 30 days has passed!
Understand that Sat is not a delivery day in most of the world nor at many customs checkpoints, so there are 5 working days per week.
If your friend got his order in 7 days last week, that doesn't mean yours will be in 7 day this week. Delivery time from international varies A LOT - it goes up and down. 6 days DE - USA last month could be 22 days this month...
TAKE A VALIUM. Relax. If you want fast, think to order domestic.
example: it is known that mail from EU leaving around 8/25-9/5 has been taking almost 4-5 weeks but is arriving. This is for all vendors. It does not always make sense, but these back logs do happen. There was also a strike.
We say this because good vendors are getting slammed with 30-40 msgs a day of "it 12 days - no pack.. where is it?".
good point
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!! THIS MOLLY IS FUCKING BOMB!!!!!!!!
All I can do is sniff this vapo and blast Kaskade which is probably pissing off my neighbors but fuck them, I'm on my level!!!!!!!
I <3 you ALL! I hope your orders come in soon so you can feel like me 8)
Hey mate, mind telling how long shipping took? I believe me and you are around the same neck of the woods
Also, would you mind telling us about your dosage/experience, tolerance, etc? trying to decide dosing for a rave this weekend, and will leave a review for you guys
thanks!
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE THE FUCK UP. HE HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT IT CAN TAKE UP TO 21 DAYS OR EVEN LONGER.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR PACKAGE NOT ARRIVING IN 13 DAYS.
Seems that's all i've been reading the last 4 pages. It's all fucking idiots who can't reading shitting there pants because it hasn't gotten from germany to bumfuckville where they live in 12 days with standard postage. Seriously get a fucking clue people.
I'm on day 8 waiting and won't even be remotely worried for another few weeks.
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE THE FUCK UP. HE HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT IT CAN TAKE UP TO 21 DAYS OR EVEN LONGER.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR PACKAGE NOT ARRIVING IN 13 DAYS.
Seems that's all i've been reading the last 4 pages. It's all fucking idiots who can't reading shitting there pants because it hasn't gotten from germany to bumfuckville where they live in 12 days with standard postage. Seriously get a fucking clue people.
I'm on day 8 waiting and won't even be remotely worried for another few weeks.
Agreed. Not only is it annoying, but it makes it much more time consuming and difficult for someone, such as myself, to gauge the situation and make the best decision on whether to order or not etc. I have to read over and over the same BS and try and figure out the reality of the situation; is there really a problem and I should avoid ordering from this person, or are these people being drama queens and making it more difficult for everyone?
One thing that bothers me that I saw on his profile is that he refunds "20%" so that he can "keep the prices low". It doesn't sound like anyone has had any major issues lately, but how many large orders are actually placed? If I order 100g for $1500 and it gets taken or whatever (by customs) I only get $300 back? I see people say that large orders have tracking and he will know that we aren't trying to scam, but based on his profile that doesn't matter, you are only getting 20% back. or am I misunderstanding something?
I am most likely going to place an order with him, whether or not it's a large one is what I am trying to figure out.
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dutchaanbod, some of us including myself would add a little cocaine in with our MDMA orders if you allowed us to combine shipping and pay ฿2 once instead of twice. Have you considered that option? You could add "ships with another item ฿0" as a shipping option. We would select the ฿2 shipping option on one item in our cart and the ฿0 shipping option on the other items in our cart.
I'm agree with you! Every seller must have this option, that will be normal if both item are in the same package, that's logical...
I have order 100g of coke and mdma to Dutch will give full review in few days!
Cheers!
Skunk
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How long does his processing usually take? What are people experiencing in shipment times to the USA? It took my last two packages i ordered from Germany 20 days to reach me. German post has always seemed slow when i order from that country.
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haha now all im readin is people telling other people to shut the fuck up you guys clog this thread up more than us....fuck off
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haha now all im readin is people telling other people to shut the fuck up you guys clog this thread up more than us....fuck off
Good call
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"LOL---your third post, and look at the Karma-----its really not ok to reveal any shipping info!!! I hope that the social enforcement has done their job in letting you know how bad you fucked up"
yeah very funny, all you assholes did MORE than your job of letting me know, so fuck you. i was writing for the benefit of the community, to assure them that dutchaanbod is legit (it's pretty cheap mdma + he's only got a 20% refund policy = looks risky). plus, this order came right on the heels of another one (different seller) in which the dope was practically falling out of the envelope!! you guys wanna bitch about me revealing "sensitive shipping information" ok, just wait til your next order comes in the mail and the mailman is able to peek into your package and see what goodies you got... you might become a tad more wary of lame packaging. trust me, i am!!! so it's VERY important for me to know how good the shipping is, hence the reason for that detailed info -- and again, it was for the benefit of the community
so there's an official policy against revealing shipping info -- ok now i know, and i'll be more careful next time. but look, what i revealed is NOT going to jeopardize the seller, me, or anyone else in this community! face it. the postal service is going to process about 50 million bubble envelopes today alone, just like the one i received. even if the cops were looking for such a package, they'd have to sort through that many. IF THEY COULD! and they CAN'T, so wake up and don't make such idiotic assumptions. it's good to be smart and careful, but not to be a stupid dick.
anyways, apologies for not knowing this official policy -- call it a dumb newb mistake, fine. but we ALL learn as we go...
lastly, fuck every one of you who gave me a negative karma w/out sending me a private note or simply notifying the mods. might as well say fuck every one of you too who didn't give me a postive karma for doing a kindly service to the seller and the community. isn't that what this forum is about? yeah, some kind of group we got here...
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE THE FUCK UP. HE HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT IT CAN TAKE UP TO 21 DAYS OR EVEN LONGER.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR PACKAGE NOT ARRIVING IN 13 DAYS.
Not everyone that posts an update about the status of their shipment is bitching or worrying about it. I personally find it helpful to see the status of others who ordered around the same time as I did, and then see if they're going to east or west coast and when they arrive, so I can get a better gauge of when I can expect mine.
Of course people need to be patient and not flood Dutch with PMs, totally agree with that. But there's nothing wrong with posting short updates on package status when it gets in delivery range. In general, the more information out there to evaluate, the better.
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Where the fuck are his listings all the sudden? Just got my btc and was ready to place another bulk order when all the sudden they're gone :(
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The listing is down so we can hold the shipping safe there are much much orders that been going out these days so we have the listing down for 2/3 days,
If i let it online to much people send me PM'S why it take so long ( 2/3 days ) before we confirm and send out the orders so we have to do it on this way :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
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It's very good that you take them down to catch up with orders and regulate that way. Much better than other vendors that get overwhelmed and the service comes crashing down. We appreciate it Dutchaanbod.
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It's very good that you take them down to catch up with orders and regulate that way. Much better than other vendors that get overwhelmed and the service comes crashing down. We appreciate it Dutchaanbod.
Agreed. Was just a little shocked when they came down with no update-Thanks for lookin' out for us, I'll be ready when you are :)
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lol that's funny since I just took lots of cash out of the bank to make a big purchase at about the same time.
I think I'll hold off converting it to coin until the listings come back due to volatility.
I agree it is good that dutchaanbod does this when needed.
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Glad I got my 2 orders in before Dutch took the listings down. This will be my first experience with Dutch....i've read and heard good things!
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...i was writing for the benefit of the community,
....and again, it was for the benefit of the community
....for doing a kindly service to the seller and the community.
Are you serious with this? Have you honestly not figured out yet that the reason you got savaged and people were pissed is because what you were doing was in fact NOT "for the benefit of the community," but was THE EXACT OPPOSITE of that?!?!?
Dude, you fucked up big time. Tuck your tail between your legs, shut your trap, and don't do it again. Coming back here and telling everyone that your gigantic fuckup was some kind of beneficial service is the height of douchebaggery, and just shows everyone that you didn't learn a fucking thing from your mistake.
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I have a 100g order to the states that's already reached customs a few days ago. I'll update when I receive it.
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I have a 100g order to the states that's already reached customs a few days ago. I'll update when I receive it.
Please do.
Man I would be so excited to receive that package. I'm surprised at the orders for 100g+ instead of 50g as it is kinda putting a lot of eggs into a single basket at small savings, but then OTOH I have yet to hear about a large package not making it through. 50g is all that I need anyway.
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"this order came right on the heels of another one (different seller) in which the dope was practically falling out of the envelope!!
lastly, fuck every one of you who gave me a negative karma w/out sending me a private note or simply notifying the mods. might as well say fuck every one of you too who didn't give me a postive karma for doing a kindly service to the seller and the community. isn't that what this forum is about? yeah, some kind of group we got here...
gives away shipping details on a good seller, and doesn't even bother to mention the name of the vendor who sent a package with dope literally falling out of it... yeah you're so pro community
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE THE FUCK UP. HE HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT IT CAN TAKE UP TO 21 DAYS OR EVEN LONGER.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR PACKAGE NOT ARRIVING IN 13 DAYS.
Not everyone that posts an update about the status of their shipment is bitching or worrying about it. I personally find it helpful to see the status of others who ordered around the same time as I did, and then see if they're going to east or west coast and when they arrive, so I can get a better gauge of when I can expect mine.
Of course people need to be patient and not flood Dutch with PMs, totally agree with that. But there's nothing wrong with posting short updates on package status when it gets in delivery range. In general, the more information out there to evaluate, the better.
quality reply.
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE THE FUCK UP. HE HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT IT CAN TAKE UP TO 21 DAYS OR EVEN LONGER.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR PACKAGE NOT ARRIVING IN 13 DAYS.
Not everyone that posts an update about the status of their shipment is bitching or worrying about it. I personally find it helpful to see the status of others who ordered around the same time as I did, and then see if they're going to east or west coast and when they arrive, so I can get a better gauge of when I can expect mine.
Of course people need to be patient and not flood Dutch with PMs, totally agree with that. But there's nothing wrong with posting short updates on package status when it gets in delivery range. In general, the more information out there to evaluate, the better.
quality reply.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
for example i found out last night that a couple guys who ordered from Chemical Bros and live in Aus got their order yesterday so now i know my order from them will be in shortly as i ordered a few days after them, their post saved me PMing CC for an update
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Received today after 2 weeks exactly, nice stealthy, have yet to try them(probably won't because I recently rolled defqons I got from BeansUSA), but will post results I get from friends and others.
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I have a 100g order to the states that's already reached customs a few days ago. I'll update when I receive it.
when did u receive ur tracking number.??Hope u get ur mandy soon...
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Came here hoping to find an explanation as to why Dutchaanbod's listings were gone and now I feel much better. Thought I just bought a $1000 moneypak for no reason, it's not like I would want to pay any more than Dutchaanbod's listings, LOL!
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I have a 100g order to the states that's already reached customs a few days ago. I'll update when I receive it.
when did u receive ur tracking number.??Hope u get ur mandy soon...
I received the tracking number when the order was shipped. The tracking number finally worked 2 days after it reports that the package was received into the states' customs. I hope so too! too excited
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Are you serious with this? Have you honestly not figured out yet that the reason you got savaged and people were pissed is because what you were doing was in fact NOT "for the benefit of the community," but was THE EXACT OPPOSITE of that?!?!?
Dude, you fucked up big time. Tuck your tail between your legs, shut your trap, and don't do it again. Coming back here and telling everyone that your gigantic fuckup was some kind of beneficial service is the height of douchebaggery, and just shows everyone that you didn't learn a fucking thing from your mistake.
read it for yourself ballstripped. three times, "for the benefit of the community" and yeah i was serious you bugger. wouldn't have said it if i wasn't. YOU think i fucked up big time, because you know the rules and you're one righteous mother fucker. innocent mistakes happen dude, you should learn to show a little grace (and humility), have some respect for other people. if it seems to you like i haven't "learnt a fucking thing from this" then you're pretty stupid and you didn't read my post right. fuck you
besides, there's no way that you can prove that what i said in my original post about dutchaanbod's clever shipping is ACTUALLY incriminating him or anybody else. don't be so high and mighty w/ your quick assumptions. you're just following the rules like everyone else, not thinking about them for yourself. if you did you might not be such an anus
anyways, like i said, now i know about the rules & i'll be more careful next time (repeating myself here for the sake of your stupidity) if there is a next time. meanwhile i RAISE my tail between my legs to show you my round asshole, you cunt...
AND NOW BACK to dutchaanbod and his wonderful wares. . . it's good stuff and he's a good seller
(sorry for the deviations here in your thread buddy -- you deserve better!!)
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Nooooo. His listings are gone. I was going to place a large order tomorrow. This always seems to happen. Damn Bitinstant and their transfer limits. Does anyone have any idea when they will be back up?
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I was about to buy.. but listings are gone. when can we buy?????
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I was about to buy.. but listings are gone. when can we buy?????
Nooooo. His listings are gone. I was going to place a large order tomorrow. This always seems to happen. Damn Bitinstant and their transfer limits. Does anyone have any idea when they will be back up?
ffs, read back a page or two when your trying to find out information before posting-just clutters up the thread even more.
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This man is doing things right he is not greedy i ve been observing him since i came across his cheap ass mdma.
He is not like the other vendors like Pf who was still taking orders even tho he didn t have the product.
He is number one in my book for MDMA so far :)
Keep up with the good work man keep the packaging spotless ;D
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Well my 70g order made it to the states today ;D
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Well my 70g order made it to the states today ;D
:D :D :D :D when was it marked in transit? If you don't mind me asking
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Well my 70g order made it to the states today ;D
great to hear!!!!party at ur house.when did u get the tracking number??and do a bump for us......
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Well my 70g order made it to the states today ;D
When did you get marked in transit? im still waiting on an order that was shipped the 16th
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:o .100g didnt make it?and 50 gram??/
can some one comment on how long after u placed ur order.did he send u guys ur tracking info ?
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I sure hope Dutch isn't selective scamming. I don't understand why any vendor with such consistent business and positive establishment would even bother to selective scam. It just ruins their business if there is any possibility of scamming people. I mean, they are already making a ton of profit off of their large clientele. Why jeopardize that just to make a little extra cash (that they would make in profit anyway after due time). Slow and steady wins the race. Don't get greedy Dutch.
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I'm starting to wonder what's going on also. I placed a large order that was sent in 3 packages and it's been 9 days since it was shipped and none of the 3 tracking numbers work. I've had tracking numbers take a couple days to work but 9 days is odd. I'll keep everybody updated.
My tracking number is also not working and it was given to me 7 days ago (order was marked 'in transit' 10 days ago). If nothing has changed, I am taking it to resolution on Monday and bringing it to the attention of SR Support. I encourage others to do the same. Sadly, it appears that Dutch is scamming people. Makes me miss PF. I had my issues with him as well, but in the end, he always came through for me.
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highly doubt he is scamming.. chill 7-21+ days as stated in the buyer agreement
item quantity seller status auto finalize
10 gr high grade MDMA 80% + 2 Dutchaanbod(96) in transit 2 days finalize | resolve
10 gr high grade MDMA 80% + 3 Dutchaanbod(96) in transit 6 days finalize | resolve
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highly doubt he is scamming.. chill 7-21+ days as stated in the buyer agreement
item quantity seller status auto finalize
10 gr high grade MDMA 80% + 2 Dutchaanbod(96) in transit 2 days finalize | resolve
10 gr high grade MDMA 80% + 3 Dutchaanbod(96) in transit 6 days finalize | resolve
I don't see how he wouldn't be scamming if people are saying that he straight up never gave them their tracking number that they were deserved and sure enough, their stuff never showed up (and these are bulk orders). Also, it's 7-21+ days for shipping time, but we are referring to the tracking numbers taking 7-9 days to not even work. I've never experienced it taking that long for a tracking number to not show any status updates (especially that status of processing at the origin sorting facility). Just seems sketchy...
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srsly guys, if dutch was going to scam people do you think he'd do it on orders with tracking numbers where he would easily loose resolution? These accusations are WAY fucking premature. Please don't piss off a good vendor as I haven't had a chance to place my order yet.
Don't expect tracking to show up on the USPS website when the package hasn't even reached the US.
Dutch's profile says very clearly that packages can take 3-4 weeks. If you don't like it then don't fucking order. Taking shit to resolution because it doesn't arrive on Monday (Columbus Day, btw) only 10 days after getting the tracking number? That's bullshit.
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srsly guys, if dutch was going to scam people do you think he'd do it on orders with tracking numbers where he would easily loose resolution? These accusations are WAY fucking premature. Please don't piss off a good vendor as I haven't had a chance to place my order yet.
Don't expect tracking to show up on the USPS website when the package hasn't even reached the US.
Dutch's profile says very clearly that packages can take 3-4 weeks. If you don't like it then don't fucking order. Taking shit to resolution because it doesn't arrive on Monday (Columbus Day, btw) only 10 days after getting the tracking number? That's bullshit.
Hopefully, you are right. I wasn't aware that the tracking number doesn't show the scan of origin until it has reached the US (but it would make sense). So, what if the package is seized before it ever reaches the US? Would we have any way of knowing? The tracking would not show this, if I'm not mistaken.
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE THE FUCK UP. HE HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT IT CAN TAKE UP TO 21 DAYS OR EVEN LONGER.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR PACKAGE NOT ARRIVING IN 13 DAYS.
Not everyone that posts an update about the status of their shipment is bitching or worrying about it. I personally find it helpful to see the status of others who ordered around the same time as I did, and then see if they're going to east or west coast and when they arrive, so I can get a better gauge of when I can expect mine.
Of course people need to be patient and not flood Dutch with PMs, totally agree with that. But there's nothing wrong with posting short updates on package status when it gets in delivery range. In general, the more information out there to evaluate, the better.
I'm referring to the people flooding his inbox or the ones who post here every 24 hrs.
I'm on around day 11 i think(weekend included), still no 20g. I don't plan on thinking too hard about it for another week or more. Hopefully it turns up sooner though. :D
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srsly guys, if dutch was going to scam people do you think he'd do it on orders with tracking numbers where he would easily loose resolution? These accusations are WAY fucking premature. Please don't piss off a good vendor as I haven't had a chance to place my order yet.
Don't expect tracking to show up on the USPS website when the package hasn't even reached the US.
Dutch's profile says very clearly that packages can take 3-4 weeks. If you don't like it then don't fucking order. Taking shit to resolution because it doesn't arrive on Monday (Columbus Day, btw) only 10 days after getting the tracking number? That's bullshit.
Hopefully, you are right. I wasn't aware that the tracking number doesn't show the scan of origin until it has reached the US (but it would make sense). So, what if the package is seized before it ever reaches the US? Would we have any way of knowing? The tracking would not show this, if I'm not mistaken.
Thats not true, I've tracked packages on the USPS site that were still out of the country.
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srsly guys, if dutch was going to scam people do you think he'd do it on orders with tracking numbers where he would easily loose resolution? These accusations are WAY fucking premature. Please don't piss off a good vendor as I haven't had a chance to place my order yet.
Don't expect tracking to show up on the USPS website when the package hasn't even reached the US.
Dutch's profile says very clearly that packages can take 3-4 weeks. If you don't like it then don't fucking order. Taking shit to resolution because it doesn't arrive on Monday (Columbus Day, btw) only 10 days after getting the tracking number? That's bullshit.
Hopefully, you are right. I wasn't aware that the tracking number doesn't show the scan of origin until it has reached the US (but it would make sense). So, what if the package is seized before it ever reaches the US? Would we have any way of knowing? The tracking would not show this, if I'm not mistaken.
Thats not true, I've tracked packages on the USPS site that were still out of the country.
That's what I thought. Was it Registered Mail (tracking started with "RM") that you were able to track from the origin country? I know Express Mail has point-to-point updates, for example.
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srsly guys, if dutch was going to scam people do you think he'd do it on orders with tracking numbers where he would easily loose resolution? These accusations are WAY fucking premature. Please don't piss off a good vendor as I haven't had a chance to place my order yet.
Don't expect tracking to show up on the USPS website when the package hasn't even reached the US.
Dutch's profile says very clearly that packages can take 3-4 weeks. If you don't like it then don't fucking order. Taking shit to resolution because it doesn't arrive on Monday (Columbus Day, btw) only 10 days after getting the tracking number? That's bullshit.
Hopefully, you are right. I wasn't aware that the tracking number doesn't show the scan of origin until it has reached the US (but it would make sense). So, what if the package is seized before it ever reaches the US? Would we have any way of knowing? The tracking would not show this, if I'm not mistaken.
There is a loose exchange of tracking information between countries, but it isn't reliable and it can lag. Also, scans aren't as reliable as UPS and FEDEX and such....certain tracking events sometimes will never show up even for delivered packages. Germany is behind on their mail. These packages could very easily be sitting in some mailroom somewhere in Germany as they work through the lag.
If 3-4 weeks go by and the package isn't delivered (regardless of the tracking) then go ahead and go to resolution and try and work something out with the vendor.
It wouldn't hurt to try the tracking number on the german post tracking website of course.
Best of luck to all.
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What the hell is wrong with you people?! Have a little patience. He says in his PM with the tracking # that it may take a few days for the tracking to work. I waited six days for Dutch to ship my 100gr. It took five days for tracking to update to processing through the sorting facility. Is it not obvious by now that Germany is having some sort of postal problem?!? You don't even wait a week before you grab your pitchforks and torches on an honest vendor...If I was him, that'd be a good enough reason to turn rough. PLEASE have some patience so that we can all reap the rewards of this partnership.
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What the hell is wrong with you people?! Have a little patience. He says in his PM with the tracking # that it may take a few days for the tracking to work. I waited six days for Dutch to ship my 100gr. It took five days for tracking to update to processing through the sorting facility. Is it not obvious by now that Germany is having some sort of postal problem?!? You don't even wait a week before you grab your pitchforks and torches on an honest vendor...If I was him, that'd be a good enough reason to turn rough. PLEASE have some patience so that we can all reap the rewards of this partnership.
Alright dude, you should prolly bring it down a notch. We are just saying that the behavior seems unusual/sketchy; not jumping to conclusions yet. I placed my order with Dutch on September 19th and all that I am saying is, it is October 5th and I don't even have a damn status update for my tracking yet (for my LARGE order). This happens to seem sketchy to me, as an experience such as this is unfamiliar when compared to all of my previous orders with other international vendors. Then, all of a sudden, I see recent feedback on his profile, reading this:
"1 of 5 - no item, no tracking infomation given. was told dont order from him again, as he cant provide the tracking or i have no item. lost money through waiting a month. the worst buisness deal ever. he made lots of mistakes and tells me not too order. this guy is exstemely un orangnized,and blames you for hes mistakes when he cant provide proof. so all in all waste of time and money just too be spoke too like shit by some idiot who dont know what hes doing and has made him self look un professional and child like.
do not let this guy fobb you off, if he has no tracking number them demand full refund. hes taking money and not sending items. if all was professional and he made sure he packed and sent every item, then there woudnt be any mistakes atall, so too me its selective scamming"
After being scammed by another vendor (DrNyx) with my last bulk order attempt, it feels like I haven't been able to receive my desired product in ages, so, MY APOLOGIES if all of this has led to slight trust issues. :D
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I'm starting to wonder what's going on also. I placed a large order that was sent in 3 packages and it's been 9 days since it was shipped and none of the 3 tracking numbers work. I've had tracking numbers take a couple days to work but 9 days is odd. I'll keep everybody updated.
My tracking number is also not working and it was given to me 7 days ago (order was marked 'in transit' 10 days ago). If nothing has changed, I am taking it to resolution on Monday and bringing it to the attention of SR Support. I encourage others to do the same. Sadly, it appears that Dutch is scamming people. Makes me miss PF. I had my issues with him as well, but in the end, he always came through for me.
why did he give u ur tracking number 3days later??hope we all get are packages soon
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Hi all
Tracking can take up to 7/9 days USPS is slow with it,
Why should i profit tracking if i want to scam ?
i will always lose this order under the 50gr can stay in escrow?
If i try to scam i had let everybody finalize before !
For those people that have say i am scamming don not buy no more from me !
Greats dutchaanbod
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I've never had a problem with dutch and I'm not implying anything. He's obviously not scamming and if he was I'm pretty sure he wouldn't scam me. I was just saying it was odd that none of the tracking numbers were working and everybody ran with that. Sorry dutch.
Hi i don now where you check both i check it and 2 of the 3 tracking are already at the post sorting center so before you set something on the forum check first :)
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Damn now that im reading that all these people that ordered multiple quantities of the 10gram listings and are only getting 10grams i hope dutch is looking at the quantity people are getting i hope mine is not going to be short now.
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Hi all
Tracking can take up to 7/9 days USPS is slow with it,
Why should i profit tracking if i want to scam ?
i will always lose this order under the 50gr can stay in escrow?
If i try to scam i had let everybody finalize before !
For those people that have say i am scamming don not buy no more from me !
Why all this bullshit ?
Because one guy try to fuck up the rating ?
That 2 review's where from one person, ( Aztek )
I send him 2 tracing's he claimed that the don work after i check it i saw that his 100gr MDMA was arrive when i tel him that he say it was only 50gr
About his second order the tracking didn't work i also can not check it so i give him a full refund on his 50gr cocaine order
And tell him not to order again from probably he didn't like that and put the a 1/5 on the rating !
Greats dutchaanbod
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3 of 5 Arrived in 15 days to SW USA. The packaging had me and my roomate laughing our asses off. Great shit. Will be back
EDIT: Weighed out to only 10 grams. Ordere 30 grams. 10 hours item
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All you people who come in here to bag on Dutchaanbod are pathetic. If there is a problem first consult dutch, what is the point of clogging up his review thread with constant bullshit? You're ruining it for the rest of us. Appreciate what he is doing, shut the fuck up and patiently wait for your order to arrive.
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Dutch when do you expect listings to be back up?
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All you people who come in here to bag on Dutchaanbod are pathetic. If there is a problem first consult dutch, what is the point of clogging up his review thread with constant bullshit? You're ruining it for the rest of us. Appreciate what he is doing, shut the fuck up and patiently wait for your order to arrive.
Seriously.
And if you only got 10g instead of 20/30 or whatever, why not tell him about it first to see if he will send you what you payed for. I'm sure he will be happy to fix his mistake.
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All you people who come in here to bag on Dutchaanbod are pathetic. If there is a problem first consult dutch, what is the point of clogging up his review thread with constant bullshit? You're ruining it for the rest of us. Appreciate what he is doing, shut the fuck up and patiently wait for your order to arrive.
Seriously.
And if you only got 10g instead of 20/30 or whatever, why not tell him about it first to see if he will send you what you payed for. I'm sure he will be happy to fix his mistake.
This exactly. What I was wondering thou, that it could very well be that this guy who only received 10 grams out of 30 grams is still going to receive 2 more packages of 10Gs.
Contact Dutch, stay put and wait a week more. There might be 2 more packages on their way to you. Also you really shouldn't finalize before you are sure that you have received all the stuff you have ordered.
I always weigh the shipment out before finalizing.
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All i see here is USPS talk, well what if your not from the us and u ordered bulk (100g). Does it take the same amount of time to be able to check where your package is when you're from the eu. Seeing as it only takes about 4-5 days to get here from the day it was shipped.
Placed my order on Wednesday, was marked in transit thursday and atm im awaiting tracking number (if anyone was wondering)
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This review thread fucking suuuucks
All I want to know is what the average shipping times are for Dutch! Anyone who has gotten their package hasn't really said how long it took, aside from like two reviews on his vendor account.
I'm on day 12 now, thats include NON-business days. I don't get worried about packages until around the 22day mark. There's a lot of people way more impatient than me though, you guys are throwing the word 'scam' around, and its been like 16 days for you people?? Chill. Be patient. By all means I want my shit here ASAP, but bitching about it isn't going to help, and calling a vendor a scammer 16 days into your first order definitely isn't going to help.
Sorry for the rant.
On a relevant note, Anyone (US folk) who has received their package, how many days did it take, I'm just curious of the general time frame. Thank you!!
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What the hell is wrong with you people?! Have a little patience. He says in his PM with the tracking # that it may take a few days for the tracking to work. I waited six days for Dutch to ship my 100gr. It took five days for tracking to update to processing through the sorting facility. Is it not obvious by now that Germany is having some sort of postal problem?!? You don't even wait a week before you grab your pitchforks and torches on an honest vendor...If I was him, that'd be a good enough reason to turn rough. PLEASE have some patience so that we can all reap the rewards of this partnership.
Alright dude, you should prolly bring it down a notch. We are just saying that the behavior seems unusual/sketchy; not jumping to conclusions yet. I placed my order with Dutch on September 19th and all that I am saying is, it is October 5th and I don't even have a damn status update for my tracking yet (for my LARGE order). This happens to seem sketchy to me, as an experience such as this is unfamiliar when compared to all of my previous orders with other international vendors. Then, all of a sudden, I see recent feedback on his profile, reading this:
"1 of 5 - no item, no tracking infomation given. was told dont order from him again, as he cant provide the tracking or i have no item. lost money through waiting a month. the worst buisness deal ever. he made lots of mistakes and tells me not too order. this guy is exstemely un orangnized,and blames you for hes mistakes when he cant provide proof. so all in all waste of time and money just too be spoke too like shit by some idiot who dont know what hes doing and has made him self look un professional and child like.
do not let this guy fobb you off, if he has no tracking number them demand full refund. hes taking money and not sending items. if all was professional and he made sure he packed and sent every item, then there woudnt be any mistakes atall, so too me its selective scamming"
After being scammed by another vendor (DrNyx) with my last bulk order attempt, it feels like I haven't been able to receive my desired product in ages, so, MY APOLOGIES if all of this has led to slight trust issues. :D
WRONG. YOU are insulting the vendor, and calling him a scammer...on NO ground. Not jumping to conclusions? Let's go back and take a look at YOUR posts.
I sure hope Dutch isn't selective scamming. I don't understand why any vendor with such consistent business and positive establishment would even bother to selective scam. It just ruins their business if there is any possibility of scamming people. I mean, they are already making a ton of profit off of their large clientele. Why jeopardize that just to make a little extra cash (that they would make in profit anyway after due time). Slow and steady wins the race. Don't get greedy Dutch.
What the hell is this? Don't get greedy...? How insulting. With this first comment I would have blacklisted you. But let's continue.
My tracking number is also not working and it was given to me 7 days ago (order was marked 'in transit' 10 days ago). If nothing has changed, I am taking it to resolution on Monday and bringing it to the attention of SR Support. I encourage others to do the same. Sadly, it appears that Dutch is scamming people. Makes me miss PF. I had my issues with him as well, but in the end, he always came through for me.
Now you are just stirring up fear-mongering. It's been 10 days, 7 days since he shipped it..AND he gave you tracking number WITH THE MESSAGE "It make take some days for it to work." IN SEVEN DAYS, you've already determined that he is a scammer swindling everyone. (Again, SEVEN DAYS since he gave you the tracking number. ONE WEEK!! This is not Amazon, LLC!!!) Moving on...
I don't see how he wouldn't be scamming if people are saying that he straight up never gave them their tracking number that they were deserved and sure enough, their stuff never showed up (and these are bulk orders). Also, it's 7-21+ days for shipping time, but we are referring to the tracking numbers taking 7-9 days to not even work. I've never experienced it taking that long for a tracking number to not show any status updates (especially that status of processing at the origin sorting facility). Just seems sketchy...
Not satisifed smearing his repuation with one post, You DO IT AGAIN. This time, you are SURE he is scamming, you "don't see how" he could not be. BUT WAIT: HOW could he be scamming...If your money IS IN ESCROW until the tracking updates?? I don't get it? He sends you a bunk tracking number, he nevers sees the money. Do you know how escrow works...? Or how buying drugs online works? I've been buying from different vendors from Germany for over a year now, with ALL vendors there have been signficant delays lately.
Alright, so you got spooked by some radom leaving bad feedback on SR. Nobody that can follow it up on the forums though..So their experience might as well be THEIR FAULT. And, as Dutch seems to explain, it was his fault. Seems like everyone here is pretty happy. Seems like the other hundreds of orders are making it just fine. When your risk of being scammed increases (OR EVEN EXISTS! YOU ARE IN ESCROW UNTIL TRACKING UPDATES!) I can totally understand presenting your circumstances privately to Dutch, and if he ignores you I completely understand presenting your concerns publicly, so we are all aware of any foul-play. But to stir up trouble for a vendor who, so far, has been nothing but awesome with some really, really resellable MDMA, it only ruins the fun for everyone else. Try to be a little be more relaxed.."Bring it down a notch."
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All i see here is USPS talk, well what if your not from the us and u ordered bulk (100g). Does it take the same amount of time to be able to check where your package is when you're from the eu. Seeing as it only takes about 4-5 days to get here from the day it was shipped.
Placed my order on Wednesday, was marked in transit thursday and atm im awaiting tracking number (if anyone was wondering)
soo u he didnt give u a tracking number yet?????we are waiting on tracking number too..???if u send A package u get racking number same time???y do we not have them yet???
i hope we are a;ll wrong.and we get are packages..soon
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What the hell is wrong with you people?! Have a little patience. He says in his PM with the tracking # that it may take a few days for the tracking to work. I waited six days for Dutch to ship my 100gr. It took five days for tracking to update to processing through the sorting facility. Is it not obvious by now that Germany is having some sort of postal problem?!? You don't even wait a week before you grab your pitchforks and torches on an honest vendor...If I was him, that'd be a good enough reason to turn rough. PLEASE have some patience so that we can all reap the rewards of this partnership.
Alright dude, you should prolly bring it down a notch. We are just saying that the behavior seems unusual/sketchy; not jumping to conclusions yet. I placed my order with Dutch on September 19th and all that I am saying is, it is October 5th and I don't even have a damn status update for my tracking yet (for my LARGE order). This happens to seem sketchy to me, as an experience such as this is unfamiliar when compared to all of my previous orders with other international vendors. Then, all of a sudden, I see recent feedback on his profile, reading this:
"1 of 5 - no item, no tracking infomation given. was told dont order from him again, as he cant provide the tracking or i have no item. lost money through waiting a month. the worst buisness deal ever. he made lots of mistakes and tells me not too order. this guy is exstemely un orangnized,and blames you for hes mistakes when he cant provide proof. so all in all waste of time and money just too be spoke too like shit by some idiot who dont know what hes doing and has made him self look un professional and child like.
do not let this guy fobb you off, if he has no tracking number them demand full refund. hes taking money and not sending items. if all was professional and he made sure he packed and sent every item, then there woudnt be any mistakes atall, so too me its selective scamming"
After being scammed by another vendor (DrNyx) with my last bulk order attempt, it feels like I haven't been able to receive my desired product in ages, so, MY APOLOGIES if all of this has led to slight trust issues. :D
WRONG. YOU are insulting the vendor, and calling him a scammer...on NO ground. Not jumping to conclusions? Let's go back and take a look at YOUR posts.
I sure hope Dutch isn't selective scamming. I don't understand why any vendor with such consistent business and positive establishment would even bother to selective scam. It just ruins their business if there is any possibility of scamming people. I mean, they are already making a ton of profit off of their large clientele. Why jeopardize that just to make a little extra cash (that they would make in profit anyway after due time). Slow and steady wins the race. Don't get greedy Dutch.
What the hell is this? Don't get greedy...? How insulting. With this first comment I would have blacklisted you. But let's continue.
My tracking number is also not working and it was given to me 7 days ago (order was marked 'in transit' 10 days ago). If nothing has changed, I am taking it to resolution on Monday and bringing it to the attention of SR Support. I encourage others to do the same. Sadly, it appears that Dutch is scamming people. Makes me miss PF. I had my issues with him as well, but in the end, he always came through for me.
Now you are just stirring up fear-mongering. It's been 10 days, 7 days since he shipped it..AND he gave you tracking number WITH THE MESSAGE "It make take some days for it to work." IN SEVEN DAYS, you've already determined that he is a scammer swindling everyone. (Again, SEVEN DAYS since he gave you the tracking number. ONE WEEK!! This is not Amazon, LLC!!!) Moving on...
I don't see how he wouldn't be scamming if people are saying that he straight up never gave them their tracking number that they were deserved and sure enough, their stuff never showed up (and these are bulk orders). Also, it's 7-21+ days for shipping time, but we are referring to the tracking numbers taking 7-9 days to not even work. I've never experienced it taking that long for a tracking number to not show any status updates (especially that status of processing at the origin sorting facility). Just seems sketchy...
Not satisifed smearing his repuation with one post, You DO IT AGAIN. This time, you are SURE he is scamming, you "don't see how" he could not be. BUT WAIT: HOW could he be scamming...If your money IS IN ESCROW until the tracking updates?? I don't get it? He sends you a bunk tracking number, he nevers sees the money. Do you know how escrow works...? Or how buying drugs online works? I've been buying from different vendors from Germany for over a year now, with ALL vendors there have been signficant delays lately.
Alright, so you got spooked by some radom leaving bad feedback on SR. Nobody that can follow it up on the forums though..So their experience might as well be THEIR FAULT. And, as Dutch seems to explain, it was his fault. Seems like everyone here is pretty happy. Seems like the other hundreds of orders are making it just fine. When your risk of being scammed increases (OR EVEN EXISTS! YOU ARE IN ESCROW UNTIL TRACKING UPDATES!) I can totally understand presenting your circumstances privately to Dutch, and if he ignores you I completely understand presenting your concerns publicly, so we are all aware of any foul-play. But to stir up trouble for a vendor who, so far, has been nothing but awesome with some really, really resellable MDMA, it only ruins the fun for everyone else. Try to be a little be more relaxed.."Bring it down a notch."
Wow, what a drama queen. I don't even think I'm going to read that long ass comment breakdown that you extended my way, but I do appreciate the time and energy that you wasted to do so. I'm flattered. Just so you know, I am fully aware of the comments that I previously posted. After all, I did write them. Anywho, it's Saturday night. I'm gonna go enjoy my social life and slay some hot vag (priorities of greater worth, in my opinion). You should try it....it's liberating. -1 karma to you, sir, in compensation for the negative karma that you clearly sent my way. That is all I have to say. You may have the last word, as I am sure that you will not let this conversation stop here. Good day! :)
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Hey guys
I left the review for the 3/5 for only getting 10 grams.
Dutch is reshipping the extra for me at no cost. I wasnt really worried when it weighed out to only 10 grams because I knew immediately why this happened, whoever was packaging didnt realize the quantity tab increases when you order more than 1 item from the same listing.
Anyway I wouldnt really worry. The packaging is above SuperTrips and almost on par with SKYYs in terms of invisibility. You can flat out order with confidence on this one.
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So I'm very new to SR, but after reading all the wonderful reviews and looking at those pictures and prices
WOWZA! I had to order. In an area where shitty MDMA runs you 100+ a gram, or questionable product runs you about the same (oftentimes customers around my city need 1/2g or more just to get off...) I thought I could stir the waters a bit with Dutch's gorgeous product.
Ordered a 10g starter a my first order.
Got a bit worried when I saw all the mishaps in the reviews section, but I'm glad to hear that everything's getting resolved and the douchebags are getting weeded out. Seriously, the last thing an illicit market like this needs is jerks with twitchy trigger fingers...
Anyway, just wanted to put myself out there and say hi, can't wait for your product to arrive, and I hope your business continues to grow with minimal assholes.
Thanks, Dutch!
~Democles
(P.S. will definitely write up a review when it gets here!)
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Well, im on day 27 including weekends, i think that's pretty much the record right now. LOL Anyone else still waiting? Not gonna bring it up to Dutch though as there's still 6 more days of the extension. Still waiting for this one to go through so i can make a large purchase :)
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My first was ordered on Sept 14 the second on Sep 16 and the third on Sep 20.
Still waiting for all three. I'm going to give it until the end of next week.
Any Aussies receive from dutch yet?
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9 days to the Western US. Totally caught me by surprise! I wasn't even going to start hoping until next week. Packaging was great. The MDMA was almost all crystals, the biggest one were around 300mg. The small bit of powder looked like it was just from the crystals being squashed in the shipping. It doesn't break up as fluffy as some of the purer stuff (I'm thinking specifically about SpaceAce's first two batches from a month or two ago) I've had. I'd say that's a bonus for anyone into insufflation/ I usually just eat it. Can anyone why two crystals of the same weight would break up into such dramatically different amounts of powder?
Whatever the case, I'm a very, very satisfied customer.
I hope you're around for a long time Dutch! I also hope you're compensating yourself appropriately for your risk. You're prices are beyond amazing!
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Hi all
We gonna delete the cocaine listing at this moment there are no bricks whit quality we like,
Most of theme are already cut.
We gonna concentrate us on the MDM
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Seriously, the last thing an illicit market like this needs is jerks with twitchy trigger fingers...
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Come on guys, cut the speculation. We can protect ourselves (the buyers) more effectively if we keep review threads short and simple. Post basic order info (order type/size, approx order time, and approx location) after making a purchase and update it when the package arrives. This way future buyers can determine an expected transit time. If your package is taking several days longer than expected, update your post and keep waiting.
I spend hours a week on the forums and vendor profiles so I can order with confidence. If you haven't taken the time to learn the ropes here, you are not going to get sympathy for your paranoia. If you can't afford to get scammed, you shouldn't be taking any orders out of escrow early, if ordering at all. This really isn't something anybody should have to be told... I think some people just don't get it.
That being said, my order (10g) has hit the western states in less than ten days. I will be able to update in a few days when the pack is relayed to me :) I will try to do my best to investigate a previous posters observation that crystals had varying densities.
---UPDATE(10/12) - Good clean rocks. Off white, very little powder, rocks as big as .5 gram. Licorice smell is very noticeable, but not overwhelmingly sweet. Seems like it could have been washed after crystallization. Potency and experience is as expected... It's the real deal what more should i say.---
P.S. THANKS D-BOD - We really appreciate your concern for quality, and everyone knows quality cocaine connections are hard to maintain. Good luck on finding the diamonds in the rough.
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MDMA Listing is back up !
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Just wanted to add in here: I ordered some C a few days ago from Dutch, and as explained above the quality isn't good enough so Dutch emailed me and cancelled my order and has provided a full refund. He sounds like an alright fella, perhaps a little less speculation, just look at his feedback/reputation - he's a good vendor.
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All i see here is USPS talk, well what if your not from the us and u ordered bulk (100g). Does it take the same amount of time to be able to check where your package is when you're from the eu. Seeing as it only takes about 4-5 days to get here from the day it was shipped.
Placed my order on Wednesday, was marked in transit thursday and atm im awaiting tracking number (if anyone was wondering)
soo u he didnt give u a tracking number yet?????we are waiting on tracking number too..???if u send A package u get racking number same time???y do we not have them yet???
i hope we are a;ll wrong.and we get are packages..soon
Yeah this is what im wondering aswell, if u mark it in transit then u ship it once its marked. Was told that he would go to germany this weekend and get tracking numbers, but i guess that means hes going to go and send it this weekend and that it wasnt actually sent on thursday ( when it was marked in transit)
Anyways im still waiting for tracking number and if i dont get one by the end of the day im gonna have to msg him and see whats up, all this talk about people not getting their tracking number etc makes me rather nervous. Oh well we'll see.
Ill keep you posted
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im also waiting on my tracking number, i dont think anything is up yet of course.. but i do have a weird feeling PF is the one shipping the packages lol
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im also waiting on my tracking number, i dont think anything is up yet of course.. but i do have a weird feeling PF is the one shipping the packages lol
^^LOL thats fucking hilarious... +1 for you bud... I too am waiting for tracking.. marked in transit last monday.
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Has anyone here received any large orders to the US recently (within the past week or two)? I overheard someone at the post office (an employee) telling a customer that there are new rules now and ALL packages going out international have to have a barcode shipping label; you either have to create shipping online and pay with credit card or take it to the counter in the post office.
Obviously this is for outgoing packages but I am wondering if they are now going to scrutinize incoming packages more. So if you have ordered 100g+ to the US recently and received can you please post.
Also, if they were to find a 100g+ order do you think it would just be seized or that there would be a controlled delivery? Just seems to me that with that amount they would probably go after someone, but I am merely speculating. I have read his packaging is great, but don't know about the packaging for the large orders. Obviously if anyone ever got in trouble from receiving a large package we probably wouldn't know because they would more than likely be in jail and no one would have the slightest clue.
Also, how is the quality of Dutch's latest batch? I am hearing that it is "ok" but if it's 80% + it should be much more then "ok". I want to purchase from him because of his great prices, but I don't want to sacrifice quality for the price. So just trying to gauge opinions on people who have tried it or sold to people who tried it, and how the experience was.
Anyways, just trying to make the best possible decision as I am planning on placing an order today or tomorrow but need clarification on things mentioned above.
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10 days (including weekends) to midwest USA.
Order was for 5g MDMA. Product looks awesome, lots of white-ish, visible crystals with some powder.
Will update on how it comes in on the scale, but looks to be correct amount. EDIT: Weight was good, on point exactly.
Packaging was unusually good. Very clever and stealthy, obviously got the job done.
Won't be able to do any personal reviews or tests for a couple weeks, however this is Duchaanbod MDMA, there is no doubt in my mind it is quality.
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Ahh i hate when i see poeple getting there shit to the west coast in half the time ive been waiting. Maybe tomorrow it will come.
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Ahh i hate when i see poeple getting there shit to the west coast in half the time ive been waiting. Maybe tomorrow it will come.
Also waiting for a package to west coast Ill post on delivery time and product quality when I receive it. Tomorrow is Columbus day so no mail.
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Ahh i hate when i see poeple getting there shit to the west coast in half the time ive been waiting. Maybe tomorrow it will come.
Also waiting for a package to west coast Ill post on delivery time and product quality when I receive it. Tomorrow is Columbus day so no mail.
Same here. Today is day 10 for me, glad to see everyone is starting to get there packs. Fuck Columbus, guy was probably a giant prick anyways
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Ahh i hate when i see poeple getting there shit to the west coast in half the time ive been waiting. Maybe tomorrow it will come.
Also waiting for a package to west coast Ill post on delivery time and product quality when I receive it. Tomorrow is Columbus day so no mail.
Fuck Columbus, guy was probably a giant prick anyways
He totally was.
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All i see here is USPS talk, well what if your not from the us and u ordered bulk (100g). Does it take the same amount of time to be able to check where your package is when you're from the eu. Seeing as it only takes about 4-5 days to get here from the day it was shipped.
Placed my order on Wednesday, was marked in transit thursday and atm im awaiting tracking number (if anyone was wondering)
soo u he didnt give u a tracking number yet?????we are waiting on tracking number too..???if u send A package u get racking number same time???y do we not have them yet???
i hope we are a;ll wrong.and we get are packages..soon
Yeah this is what im wondering aswell, if u mark it in transit then u ship it once its marked. Was told that he would go to germany this weekend and get tracking numbers, but i guess that means hes going to go and send it this weekend and that it wasnt actually sent on thursday ( when it was marked in transit)
Anyways im still waiting for tracking number and if i dont get one by the end of the day im gonna have to msg him and see whats up, all this talk about people not getting their tracking number etc makes me rather nervous. Oh well we'll see.
Ill keep you posted
When the order mark in transit the are send out max 1 day later,
I don pack it by myself we have workers that do it :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
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All i see here is USPS talk, well what if your not from the us and u ordered bulk (100g). Does it take the same amount of time to be able to check where your package is when you're from the eu. Seeing as it only takes about 4-5 days to get here from the day it was shipped.
Placed my order on Wednesday, was marked in transit thursday and atm im awaiting tracking number (if anyone was wondering)
soo u he didnt give u a tracking number yet?????we are waiting on tracking number too..???if u send A package u get racking number same time???y do we not have them yet???
i hope we are a;ll wrong.and we get are packages..soon
Yeah this is what im wondering aswell, if u mark it in transit then u ship it once its marked. Was told that he would go to germany this weekend and get tracking numbers, but i guess that means hes going to go and send it this weekend and that it wasnt actually sent on thursday ( when it was marked in transit)
Anyways im still waiting for tracking number and if i dont get one by the end of the day im gonna have to msg him and see whats up, all this talk about people not getting their tracking number etc makes me rather nervous. Oh well we'll see.
Ill keep you posted
When the order mark in transit the are send out max 1 day later,
I don pack it by myself we have workers that do it :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
Thats great, means its already on its way! Altho i would really like to receive the tracking number asap since it doesnt take that long to receive packages within the EU. Would be pretty damn important to actually know if the package is coming or not, considering its 100g id have to expect coppers at my place, so would be nice to like, get a heads up, u dig?
Best regards
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Damn...all kinds of people in midwest and west coast getting around 10 days. I'm on 20 and counting.
Hey Dutch, do you have tracking for smaller orders like 10g? Or is it only 50g+?
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Damn...all kinds of people in midwest and west coast getting around 10 days. I'm on 20 and counting.
Hey Dutch, do you have tracking for smaller orders like 10g? Or is it only 50g+?
ours must of been shipped out the same time. im on day 20 too still waiting
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My first was ordered on Sept 14 the second on Sep 16 and the third on Sep 20.
Still waiting for all three. I'm going to give it until the end of next week.
Any Aussies receive from dutch yet?
Im still waiting from the 15th sept, will update when arrives
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8 Days to East Coast, Quality MDMA & Stealth packing will be back for allot more !
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so how is the quality compared to other dutch vendors?
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All i see here is USPS talk, well what if your not from the us and u ordered bulk (100g). Does it take the same amount of time to be able to check where your package is when you're from the eu. Seeing as it only takes about 4-5 days to get here from the day it was shipped.
Placed my order on Wednesday, was marked in transit thursday and atm im awaiting tracking number (if anyone was wondering)
soo u he didnt give u a tracking number yet?????we are waiting on tracking number too..???if u send A package u get racking number same time???y do we not have them yet???
i hope we are a;ll wrong.and we get are packages..soon
Yeah this is what im wondering aswell, if u mark it in transit then u ship it once its marked. Was told that he would go to germany this weekend and get tracking numbers, but i guess that means hes going to go and send it this weekend and that it wasnt actually sent on thursday ( when it was marked in transit)
Anyways im still waiting for tracking number and if i dont get one by the end of the day im gonna have to msg him and see whats up, all this talk about people not getting their tracking number etc makes me rather nervous. Oh well we'll see.
Ill keep you posted
When the order mark in transit the are send out max 1 day later,
I don pack it by myself we have workers that do it :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
Well can you tell your workers to pay attention to the quanitity that people order? me and three others have only gotten ten grams when we order more than that amount!
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so no tracking numbers yet???
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Woohoo, charlie arrived in Australia today, took 22 days from order including weekends so can't complain about that.
the weight was spot on and the quality was very nice, haven't seen quality like this in Australia for about 20 years.
Everyone from Aus who is worried about their order don't be, it will get to you and will be worth the wait.
Thanks Dutch i'll be back
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Greats!!
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i've searched through the thread but haven't seen anyone mention, do you need to sign for a shipment, 50gr+, in the US?
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back to the fact this is a mdma & coke review thread, can someone please tell me how good the mdma is?????? comparable to F16???? i have trawled back so many pages and cant find anything???????? only ppl complaining about not receiving their packages, which i know sucks but why don't we have separate threads for "i haven't received my package"?
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Woohoo, charlie arrived in Australia today, took 22 days from order including weekends so can't complain about that.
the weight was spot on and the quality was very nice, haven't seen quality like this in Australia for about 20 years.
Everyone from Aus who is worried about their order don't be, it will get to you and will be worth the wait.
Thanks Dutch i'll be back
I'm sitting at 22 days so hopefully mine arrives tomorrow! Nothing today! Hope I got same batch!
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back to the fact this is a mdma & coke review thread, can someone please tell me how good the mdma is?????? comparable to F16???? i have trawled back so many pages and cant find anything???????? only ppl complaining about not receiving their packages, which i know sucks but why don't we have separate threads for "i haven't received my package"?
Exactly. What's the point of bemoaning the long wait, we've all been there and it helps to ease the pain, but unless there's some useful info for SR buyers, why bother?
Four days. And I'm still waiting.
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back to the fact this is a mdma & coke review thread, can someone please tell me how good the mdma is?????? comparable to F16???? i have trawled back so many pages and cant find anything???????? only ppl complaining about not receiving their packages, which i know sucks but why don't we have separate threads for "i haven't received my package"?
hell o.!!! NO one has gotten a package.hence no reviews.lol..
when WE all get them best believe we will all post.BUT ASS u can read no mdma to review..
.pay attentions to whts going on before u try to tlk boo boo ::)
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Woohoo, charlie arrived in Australia today, took 22 days from order including weekends so can't complain about that.
the weight was spot on and the quality was very nice, haven't seen quality like this in Australia for about 20 years.
Everyone from Aus who is worried about their order don't be, it will get to you and will be worth the wait.
Thanks Dutch i'll be back
Strewth!
Good to hear, hopefully my mailbox stays nice and snug.
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Received my tracking number and tried it on usps, altho i get this error "Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site." Probably have to wait a bit before it actually works i guess.
Trillarn.
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order smaller 50 and larger than 10 in processing to SE US as of last night.. will keep everyone updated but I don't think twice about it coming till at least day 25/30.. my past shipping times from Germany have been very delayed to say the least!! Looking forward to trying this shit!!!
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Wow, what a drama queen. I don't even think I'm going to read that long ass comment breakdown that you extended my way, but I do appreciate the time and energy that you wasted to do so. I'm flattered. Just so you know, I am fully aware of the comments that I previously posted. After all, I did write them. Anywho, it's Saturday night. I'm gonna go enjoy my social life and slay some hot vag (priorities of greater worth, in my opinion). You should try it....it's liberating. -1 karma to you, sir, in compensation for the negative karma that you clearly sent my way. That is all I have to say. You may have the last word, as I am sure that you will not let this conversation stop here. Good day! :)
I didn't give you negative karma, although I have now, and will continue every time 72 hours I come across your username..First +/- karma I've ever given! Your ad hominem attacks are stale and pathetic, your post is devoid of intelligent rhetoric, and your tone is adolescent and immature. I call out shitty buyers (and vendors) when I see them, and you are one of them. I more-so did the breakdown for Dutch, ideally so that he can blacklist you as he sees fit. I am well-aware you know what you typed, I fully believed that you were a hypocritical fear-monger.
May customs intercept your package and ensure you are royally fucked by the long arm of the law--You do not possess the common sense required to enjoy an opportunity such as this.
ON TOPIC: My order of 100GR took about five days before I received the tracking number. Once I received the tracking number, it took six days to update with tracking info. Now, four days later, it is in the town next to me, expecting it to be out for delivery tomorrow.
Total time from ordering: 16 days
Total time from receiving tracking #: 11 days
And within 12 hours, all 100 grams will be gone and I'll need another order ;D Love you Dutch!! <333333
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Damn you Columbus!! All you other west coaster.. mines sent out September 9. At 29 days now. I think tomorrow is the day. Seems like that whole week has been delayed??
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Placed a 40g order to India today. My coins took a whole day to come through and i lost almost 100$ cause of the price drop :( Last order was from CS, was very impressed by the white. Now i want to taste some moonrocks :D
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I placed a 50+g mdma order going to midwest US. My first order with Dutch, although many, many with PF, AH, etc. I ordered from Dutch about 2 weeks ago and it took about 3 days for him to mark the order in transit. I received a message from him about 2 days later giving me the tracking number and informing it could be a few days before the tracking was live. I finally got a response on tracking today showing it was in NY sort facility as of 3 days ago...although the tracking still didn't work even 24 hours ago, so it took 8+ days before I was able to get a positive track. As per the terms on 50+g order I finalized the transaction (I still hate doing this with no product, but understand the vendors position)...will update in a few days with more details.
Fingers crossed... 8)
Recent purchasing statistics
Total transactions: 22
Total spent: $7153.71
Refund rate: 2.27%
Auto-finalize rate: 1.33%
Member for: 11 months
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Just got my package 21 days total including weekends and 1 holiday.
Will open in 24 hours or when I feel it is safe.
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Just got my package 21 days total including weekends and 1 holiday.
Will open in 24 hours or when I feel it is safe.
Awesome! hoping mine comes today too. still early over here on the westcoast
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Just got my package 21 days total including weekends and 1 holiday.
Will open in 24 hours or when I feel it is safe.
Awesome! hoping mine comes today too. still early over here on the westcoast
Eastcoast over here. I placed 2 with Dutch so I am hoping my bigger one comes in Friday or Sat
Just so you know shipping looks legit on the outside. One of the cleanest business packages I've gotten so far from SR.
(Cloudsurfer 10g, Utopic 10g((2nd best)) , Silentbob 2g, and of course Afterhour 10g((Worst interior stealth)))
edit: upon further inspection the post mark leads me to believe this is the bigger one. We will see ...
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Just got my package 21 days total including weekends and 1 holiday.
Will open in 24 hours or when I feel it is safe.
Awesome! hoping mine comes today too. still early over here on the westcoast
Eastcoast over here. I placed 2 with Dutch so I am hoping my bigger one comes in Friday or Sat
Just so you know shipping looks legit on the outside. One of the cleanest business packages I've gotten so far from SR.
(Cloudsurfer 10g, Utopic 10g((2nd best)) , Silentbob 2g, and of course Afterhour 10g((Worst interior stealth)))
edit: upon further inspection the post mark leads me to believe this is the bigger one. We will see ...
glad you got yours...
well the mail just came and went. nothing
Tomorrow is day 23 or 24
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Got a pack today :) Not sure which one it is, either the one I ordered from Dutch 22 or 18 days ago. First one took 11 days (and PF's would consistently make it to me in 6-8 days) so seems the postal system is lagging even more than before... There was added layer of package security since my first order 5 weeks ago, so that was nice to see.
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Placed my first order with Dutch today to the USA, fingers crossed :)
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Received my order in a little over 2 weeks, that includes weekends and Columbus day.
Weighs exactly 10g like i ordered. Weirdest smelling MDMA i've ever had. It's not a strong licorice smell like most MDMA i've gotten from EU.. Still looks good though. Very pebbly, little dust, and a few rocks weighing close to 300mg
I marquise tested it and Simons tested it, both confirm pure MDMA
Stealth was good as well.
Hopefully Dutch stays on the Road for awhile. I could use a solid MDMA vendor that has quality product at quality prices, and bulk!!
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Recieved my MDMA today(central USA) in just a day over 2 weeks.
Looks great, Have not weighed it yet, but will on thursday. Also stealth was great.
Will update once weighed.
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Received my tracking number and tried it on usps, altho i get this error "Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site." Probably have to wait a bit before it actually works i guess.
Trillarn.
hi does ur tracking work now??
kp us posted on how long it takes PLEASE, thanks.
hope everyone gets there MANDY soon.so we can all have FUN
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hi any one that has received there package. and all so got a tracking number.to the us did ur ending tacking # have US? or some other letters?
on the usps page it has a format
and the tracking he has givn are friend.dont mach any of there formats???? ???
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hi any one that has received there package. and all so got a tracking number.to the us did ur ending tacking # have US? or some other letters?
on the usps page it has a format
and the tracking he has givn are friend.dont mach any of there formats???? ???
Relax dude. You're freaking yourself out. What does it say when you use the tracking number on the USPS website? If you just got it, it could very well not have been updated yet. It takes time.
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This is my first time receiving a package that has been shipped with tracking. Dutch provided a tracking number as he said he would and also promptly replied to a question I had about how to track it and that it may take a few days for information to populate.
I had been trying to use USPS.com but had been getting the following message :
"Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office."
Instead of bothering him(and maybe answering the same question for others), I'd like to ask here if this is the standard message you would get when an item hasn't made it's way to the sort facility yet.
The tracking number is in this format : LL ## ### ### ###
Thanks in advance for the support!
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This is my first time receiving a package that has been shipped with tracking. Dutch provided a tracking number as he said he would and also promptly replied to a question I had about how to track it and that it may take a few days for information to populate.
I had been trying to use USPS.com but had been getting the following message :
"Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office."
Instead of bothering him(and maybe answering the same question for others), I'd like to ask here if this is the standard message you would get when an item hasn't made it's way to the sort facility yet.
The tracking number is in this format : LL ## ### ### ###
Thanks in advance for the support!
Yesssss this is completely normal people, give it time!!... product and vendors reviews please, these threads get so clogged up with pointless shit.. sorry man not intended for you but just all the bullshit in general.. order your drugs, wait, and then come back here and give a review... its that simple, I don't get where people go wrong at least some way make it related to Dutch or his product... and not questions answered on his page or just simple common sense questions... everything here has its spot and if it doesn't create your own thread and someone will be nice enough to help, trust me ;) sorry to rant and I know those who bitch and complain will always continue to do so but just so I'm not 2 faced my order is still processing going on the third day but no worries mates! you will here from me either when I receive the goods or after 25 days I will be back to mention DELAYS... not that hes a scammer or whatever non sense because even past 25 days is very possible and has happened to me before!!! I'll be back with updates of the goods 8)
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Well my 70 grams order landed and it is straight fire i love the packaging and it only took 8 days. Dutch really does have this down he by far has the best packaging and seems the most on his shit than most other mdma vendors here he knows this buisness well and im glad to be part of it.
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This is my first time receiving a package that has been shipped with tracking. Dutch provided a tracking number as he said he would and also promptly replied to a question I had about how to track it and that it may take a few days for information to populate.
I had been trying to use USPS.com but had been getting the following message :
"Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office."
Instead of bothering him(and maybe answering the same question for others), I'd like to ask here if this is the standard message you would get when an item hasn't made it's way to the sort facility yet.
The tracking number is in this format : LL ## ### ### ###
Thanks in advance for the support!
When you order internationally you can't go to USPS.com until it has crossed into the country and even then, they are notoriously bad at staying up to date on their website. You should find out what the german post website is and go there. as a matter of fact:
http://www.deutschepost.de/dpag?lang=de_EN&xmlFile=828
Go there, track it, it will either say info isnt available yet or it was accepted. Then in a day or two it will say processed through international sort facility or something like that. That means it's out of germany and on it's way to you. In reality it will be in the US no more than 3 days after that message, however the tracking won't reflect that until some time after because USPS runs just like any other government sponsored agency, slow.
Good luck to everyone on this, i'll be trying my hand at the same thing in a couple of days. I hope the 100 g packages are all really stealth.
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Pkg arrived today, 20 days to the west coast USA. Excellent stealth, weight on point, will post again later after trying the product.
Greats!
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Pkg arrived today, 20 days to the west coast USA. Excellent stealth, weight on point, will post again later after trying the product.
Greats!
Makes me a little sad. Im on the west coast and it's been 30 days today. Thought it would come, but nada. What did come though was delta11 3.5 grams of Coke. :) Will make me feel easier though once the molly gets here.
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AUSTRALIA
Recieved 5g today 20days after ordering, it was last ordered from a total of three. Still waiting for 10g and a 5g which were sent 4 and 6 days before hand.
Packaging is great, buy with confidence Aussies..well at least with 5g's. We'll see what happens with the other two
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Does anyone know what the average time is that it takes for the package to be dispatched for delivery after it has arrived at the ISC NYC facility? And is it fairly safe to say that if Dutch's package has made it this far, then it will most likely not be intercepted at this point?
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Received my tracking number and tried it on usps, altho i get this error "Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site." Probably have to wait a bit before it actually works i guess.
Trillarn.
hi does ur tracking work now??
kp us posted on how long it takes PLEASE, thanks.
hope everyone gets there MANDY soon.so we can all have FUN
Hey, my tracking doesnt work yet and its been 6 days in transit now, this is usually when i receive packages, will keep you updated
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Does anyone know what the average time is that it takes for the package to be dispatched for delivery after it has arrived at the ISC NYC facility? And is it fairly safe to say that if Dutch's package has made it this far, then it will most likely not be intercepted at this point?
If your package says it has hit the sorting facility than it has already passed customs and will not be intercepted. After it hits isc depending on where you live it should only take 1-3 days after it gets to the sorting center.
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Mine always took 6-8 days after hitting the sorting center.
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5 grams to the EC showed up yesterday 17 days it took but its here . Tested good wtih the MECKE went straight to black. Thanks DUTCH
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Does anyone know what the average time is that it takes for the package to be dispatched for delivery after it has arrived at the ISC NYC facility? And is it fairly safe to say that if Dutch's package has made it this far, then it will most likely not be intercepted at this point?
If your package says it has hit the sorting facility than it has already passed customs and will not be intercepted. After it hits isc depending on where you live it should only take 1-3 days after it gets to the sorting center.
Thanks for the info bud.
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Mine always took 6-8 days after hitting the sorting center.
6-8 days until it was dispatched from the ISC or until it reached your address?
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I ordered 20 days ago including weekends, Im getting nervous. At what point do I throw in the towel? I live in the USA and am afraid it wont come, im not spamming dutch with emails yet so dont bitch at me please.
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I ordered on the 19th of September and it just arrived to ISC on Saturday night, if that makes you feel better. Still waiting, but according to tracking it should be here any time this week or early next week.
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I ordered 20 days ago including weekends, Im getting nervous. At what point do I throw in the towel? I live in the USA and am afraid it wont come, im not spamming dutch with emails yet so dont bitch at me please.
Well Monday was a holiday, and I assume you are counting total days, not business days. 20 business days is generally as long as it takes. I had a package from supertrips take 22 days (16 business) to arrive. if it hits a month after ordering its probably (90%) not showing.
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I ordered on the 19th of September and it just arrived to ISC on Saturday night, if that makes you feel better. Still waiting, but according to tracking it should be here any time this week or early next week.
Indeed this makes me have that glimmer of hope once again, thanks man +1 your way
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Does anyone know Dutch's current processing times?
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Received my tracking number and tried it on usps, altho i get this error "Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site." Probably have to wait a bit before it actually works i guess.
Trillarn.
hi does ur tracking work now??
kp us posted on how long it takes PLEASE, thanks.
hope everyone gets there MANDY soon.so we can all have FUN
Hey, my tracking doesnt work yet and its been 6 days in transit now, this is usually when i receive packages, will keep you updated
thank you much..and a +1 for u
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this is the only reason we are ??? aboutWhich services and label number formats are compatible?
Enter label numbers, spaces optional, for items using these services:
Service Sample Number
Certified Mailâ„¢ 7000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Delivery Confirmationâ„¢ 0300 0000 0000 0000 0000
Signature Confirmationâ„¢ 2300 0000 0000 0000 0000
Express Mail® EA 000 000 000 US
Express Mail International® EC 000 000 000 US
Priority Mail Internationalâ„¢ CP 000 000 000 US
Registered Mailâ„¢ RA 000 000 000 US
Global Express Guaranteed® 82 000 000 00
ths are all the formats.and the numbers he gave my friend dont have a EC OR CP and he is sending it priority mail to the us. and THERE IS NO US at the end of her tracking??
so thatss just strange.did any one that got a package did ur tracking have EC,CP on the front of the numbers and a US at the end??thank u
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Does anyone know Dutch's current processing times?
Also curious about this as I have had my order processing since Sunday night??
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Does anyone know Dutch's current processing times?
Also curious about this as I have had my order processing since Sunday night??
I second this.
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this is the only reason we are ??? aboutWhich services and label number formats are compatible?
Enter label numbers, spaces optional, for items using these services:
Service Sample Number
Certified Mailâ„¢ 7000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Delivery Confirmationâ„¢ 0300 0000 0000 0000 0000
Signature Confirmationâ„¢ 2300 0000 0000 0000 0000
Express Mail® EA 000 000 000 US
Express Mail International® EC 000 000 000 US
Priority Mail Internationalâ„¢ CP 000 000 000 US
Registered Mailâ„¢ RA 000 000 000 US
Global Express Guaranteed® 82 000 000 00
ths are all the formats.and the numbers he gave my friend dont have a EC OR CP and he is sending it priority mail to the us. and THERE IS NO US at the end of her tracking??
so thatss just strange.did any one that got a package did ur tracking have EC,CP on the front of the numbers and a US at the end??thank u
Yeah, if it's coming from a non-US origin country, then you can completely disregard those formats.
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Shipping
Mine took 3 days processing, 20 days in transit. Don't let "7 days to US" reviews scare you, wait and chill the fuck out. I wouldn't be worried until at LEAST 35 days. His packaging is the absolute best I've seen in my year here. There could be better but I don't know how to top this.
If you're worried about 4 days in processing, cancel your order now. Not for your sake, for outs. This is a waiting game. Don't put pressure on our top sellers to be machines. They have to restock, package, withdraw money, etc. Chill the fuck out. They'll send it soon, if not, go elsewhere. They can only do what they can do.
Quality
Smells more like licorice than sas, so maybe its made from something other than safrole. For the sake of sas trees, hopefully it is. Haven't tested it but it's mostly nice big pretty crystals. Funny color but color in a transparent crystal is what.... 0.05% of the weight? I'm sure its pretty pure.
Communication
I didn't message him asking for a tracking number or other stupidass "where is my order" questions that waste his time, so I wouldn't know about his communication.
Detail
He paid attention to the "quantity" in my shopping cart, so all 30g arrived.
He did a great job. Hopefully we don't overwhelm him so he can stay... Unlike tony, PF, skyy, ses.... God help them.
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Does anyone know Dutch's current processing times?
it took him 3 days to process my order
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got my second order 21ish days total (including sat, sun and 1 holiday)
dudes legit
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Anyone from Australia who has received a package able to comment on whether a signature is required?
Thanks!
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Anyone from Australia who has received a package able to comment on whether a signature is required?
Thanks!
Do some research
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I ordered on sunday. took 3 days processing and finally in transit. I'll update
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Anyone from Australia who has received a package able to comment on whether a signature is required?
Thanks!
No sig required.
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Anyone from Australia who has received a package able to comment on whether a signature is required?
Thanks!
i got mine after 22 days including W\E, this was smack bag in the middle of the pangera (fucked if i know the actual name is) sting for prescription drugs.
packaging was pretty crap so i dont know what everyone else is on about. obviously it was good enough to get through but not if they opened the package.
the quality made up for that 10 fold.
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I ordered 20 days ago including weekends, Im getting nervous. At what point do I throw in the towel? I live in the USA and am afraid it wont come, im not spamming dutch with emails yet so dont bitch at me please.
20 days is nothing to worry about, just got both of my orders from mid-September this week...so they were both between 20 and 25 days. I wouldn't be worried till day 30 or so.
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So the 30g batch has been confirmed by 10+ ppl best shit theyve ever taken
My 10g batch is definitely different. More sassy. (I prefer this) and has yet to be tested.
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my order took 7 days to SE usa both times but i live right beside an ISC. i have had 2 different batches of dutches, both tested good reagent wise but one was very sassy smelling and one was a tad of a chemical smell with a couple small green specks in it. idk whats up with that but im assuming it will be fine as far as quality goes
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Reports on shipping times are all great, but lets get some more feedback from people that have actually taken his stuff... and how it compares to some of the other MDMA on here.
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Reports on shipping times are all great, but lets get some more feedback from people that have actually taken his stuff... and how it compares to some of the other MDMA on here.
Marquis test goes straight to purple-black with smoke, and simon's regeant turns to a beautiful blue. Both perfect reactions for MDMA. I mean, you can get objective reviews from people that take it, but I've always considered MDMA to be highly dependent on set and setting. Compared to other MDMA here (Pf and AH), his is almost clear crystal whereas the latter was usually tan-colored. Logically speaking, the brown-coloring must be from some impurity, and that impurity must have some weight..so from that understanding it is probably safe to say that Dutch's mol is ever so slightly more potent mg for mg. I haven't tried it yet, I plan to see Dada Life sometime in the next week so I'll let you know how my experience is ;)
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I would say dutches is slightly better than most other mdma vendors i think it it like the tan stuff just washed a little more.
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Anyone received recently in the EU that can comment on shipping times?
I see lots and lots of people in the US receiving both in the feedback and in this thread, but almost no EU.
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Reports on shipping times are all great, but lets get some more feedback from people that have actually taken his stuff... and how it compares to some of the other MDMA on here.
On par if not better than CS/Afterhour.
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What is the longest that anyone has waited to receive their package in the US after it has reached the ISC?
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my order took 7 days to SE usa both times but i live right beside an ISC. i have had 2 different batches of dutches, both tested good reagent wise but one was very sassy smelling and one was a tad of a chemical smell with a couple small green specks in it. idk whats up with that but im assuming it will be fine as far as quality goes
Yeah anyone else get this?? I've only seen it in one pack (the brownest of the three I've seen from Dutch), but there are super dark green specks about the size of some of the very small rocks. They aren't transparent at all and almost look like paint chips or something, for lack of a better description...never seen that in MDMA before.
I've tested it myself twice and it was good quality-wise. Only took about 130 mg first time and rolled pretty hard--hadn't done molly in 2 months. Gave 120 mg to one girl who had rolled a dozen or so times and she told me she had never felt this way before and it was nothing like her other experiences (of probably cut to shit, over-priced junk)....ha, she didn't even believe me that it was just molly that I had given her, but couldn't stop hugging me and saying how much better she felt on this then ever before.
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hm.. getting worried about my order. Does anybody else have problems with their domestic orders? Waiting for 6 working days for my MDMA order and won't loose the hope to get it soon :-/
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my order took 7 days to SE usa both times but i live right beside an ISC. i have had 2 different batches of dutches, both tested good reagent wise but one was very sassy smelling and one was a tad of a chemical smell with a couple small green specks in it. idk whats up with that but im assuming it will be fine as far as quality goes
Yeah anyone else get this?? I've only seen it in one pack (the brownest of the three I've seen from Dutch), but there are super dark green specks about the size of some of the very small rocks. They aren't transparent at all and almost look like paint chips or something, for lack of a better description...never seen that in MDMA before.
I've tested it myself twice and it was good quality-wise. Only took about 130 mg first time and rolled pretty hard--hadn't done molly in 2 months. Gave 120 mg to one girl who had rolled a dozen or so times and she told me she had never felt this way before and it was nothing like her other experiences (of probably cut to shit, over-priced junk)....ha, she didn't even believe me that it was just molly that I had given her, but couldn't stop hugging me and saying how much better she felt on this then ever before.
My 10g order was very brown and had tiny green specks as well. The reagent tests confirmed pure MDMA, and it weighed, so I'm not worried. But i was curious, and it smelled differently than any other MDMA i've smelt.
Not worried, if anything, it makes me a bit more excited to try it.
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What is the longest that anyone has waited to receive their package in the US after it has reached the ISC?
ISC can hold your package up to 14 days till they have to send it on its way. If they hold it for longer then 14 days then its most likely going to be kept. Also, keep in mind tracking might say that it is at ISC even though it was delievered. Tracking is very slow and unreliable.
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Received my 250 gram order from dutch. I don't want to say exactly when I received it for security's sake but it's here. Mostly crystalline powder and small rocks. All white crystal not brown for those wondering. No big rocks but not worried about that as long as the product is good. Passed all reagent tests. 1.3 grams short after scraping bags but not worried about that as he has the best prices by far. Packaging was good. Will upload a picture of the product tonight or tomorrow and will update on quality but it looks and smells great. With his prices, he's definitely my new mdma vendor. Order with confidence guys!
Hey did u have to sign for the order over 50 grams?
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my order took 7 days to SE usa both times but i live right beside an ISC. i have had 2 different batches of dutches, both tested good reagent wise but one was very sassy smelling and one was a tad of a chemical smell with a couple small green specks in it. idk whats up with that but im assuming it will be fine as far as quality goes
Yeah anyone else get this?? I've only seen it in one pack (the brownest of the three I've seen from Dutch), but there are super dark green specks about the size of some of the very small rocks. They aren't transparent at all and almost look like paint chips or something, for lack of a better description...never seen that in MDMA before.
I've tested it myself twice and it was good quality-wise. Only took about 130 mg first time and rolled pretty hard--hadn't done molly in 2 months. Gave 120 mg to one girl who had rolled a dozen or so times and she told me she had never felt this way before and it was nothing like her other experiences (of probably cut to shit, over-priced junk)....ha, she didn't even believe me that it was just molly that I had given her, but couldn't stop hugging me and saying how much better she felt on this then ever before.
My 10g order was very brown and had tiny green specks as well. The reagent tests confirmed pure MDMA, and it weighed, so I'm not worried. But i was curious, and it smelled differently than any other MDMA i've smelt.
Not worried, if anything, it makes me a bit more excited to try it.
I agree. Dutch's MDMA has a fishy licorice smell, and yeah I got the same tiny dark green specks in it too. but I'm not complaining because the price for this quantity and quality of service AND product makes it worth it no matter what. All my customers/friends say this stuff is just as good/better than the stuff I had before(Pf's tan batch, even though it came out .5g short). Anyways, I'll be ordering again soon, once my Green ?'s from ST(which have been in transit for over a month) arrive along with some Ghosts from F16 and Defqons from Schizo. Have fun guys! Dutchaanbod is a great vendor and I hope he's here to stay
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What is the longest that anyone has waited to receive their package in the US after it has reached the ISC?
ISC can hold your package up to 14 days till they have to send it on its way. If they hold it for longer then 14 days then its most likely going to be kept. Also, keep in mind tracking might say that it is at ISC even though it was delievered. Tracking is very slow and unreliable.
Someone told me, in a previous post a few pages back, that if it has made it to the ISC, then it has already passed customs and will be safe. Is it common or uncommon that it would take close to 14 days before being dispatched from the ISC? That seems like a long ass time. Also, is it common or uncommon for a package to be seized after already reaching the ISC?
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What is the longest that anyone has waited to receive their package in the US after it has reached the ISC?
ISC can hold your package up to 14 days till they have to send it on its way. If they hold it for longer then 14 days then its most likely going to be kept. Also, keep in mind tracking might say that it is at ISC even though it was delievered. Tracking is very slow and unreliable.
Someone told me, in a previous post a few pages back, that if it has made it to the ISC, then it has already passed customs and will be safe. Is it common or uncommon that it would take close to 14 days before being dispatched from the ISC? That seems like a long ass time. Also, is it common or uncommon for a package to be seized after already reaching the ISC?
I have had plenty of packages illegal and legal with tracking that got held up in the ISC for quite a while. Like I said before, it can be held up in the ISC for up to 14 days before it moves to its next location. Not only that the tracking could say that the package is still in the ISC but it could be on its way to you. I've received plenty of packages to my door that still state they were at the ISC on tracking. Most of the packages i've ordered from overseas have all been taking about 14 - 30 days here recently. I've even heard about packages that get delayed and don't show up for like a month and a half.
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What is the longest that anyone has waited to receive their package in the US after it has reached the ISC?
ISC can hold your package up to 14 days till they have to send it on its way. If they hold it for longer then 14 days then its most likely going to be kept. Also, keep in mind tracking might say that it is at ISC even though it was delievered. Tracking is very slow and unreliable.
Someone told me, in a previous post a few pages back, that if it has made it to the ISC, then it has already passed customs and will be safe. Is it common or uncommon that it would take close to 14 days before being dispatched from the ISC? That seems like a long ass time. Also, is it common or uncommon for a package to be seized after already reaching the ISC?
ISC NY Sorting facility is US customs.
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What is the longest that anyone has waited to receive their package in the US after it has reached the ISC?
ISC can hold your package up to 14 days till they have to send it on its way. If they hold it for longer then 14 days then its most likely going to be kept. Also, keep in mind tracking might say that it is at ISC even though it was delievered. Tracking is very slow and unreliable.
Someone told me, in a previous post a few pages back, that if it has made it to the ISC, then it has already passed customs and will be safe. Is it common or uncommon that it would take close to 14 days before being dispatched from the ISC? That seems like a long ass time. Also, is it common or uncommon for a package to be seized after already reaching the ISC?
ISC NY Sorting facility is US customs.
It is normal to have your package held between 0 and 14 days; although, it can be held for longer.
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Hey all, just chiming in with my experience.
This was my first order (10g) that I placed with Dutchaanbod, but not my first order from the SR (Member for a few months, about 3k USD spent, all on mdma). And I'm pleased to say that it was an awesome experience all together.
Communication: N/A none needed
Shipping: 5/5 14 days to Eastern US (normal time as with all other orders)
Packaging: 5/5 absolutely stellar. Some of the best I've seen
Quality: 6/5 First of all it was on point and I wasn't shorted any, which tends to happen often. And the quality is some of the best I've had. This batch was not sassy like most others I've from like PF and AH and SuperTrips. Not that I didn't like those, they were all excellent, but Dutch's was clear and translucent like rock salt. Marquis test passed perfectly. Myself and 8 other friends ingested about .1 g and had a terrific roll. Come down was clean. Couldn't ask for a better transaction!
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My 10g order had the green specks as well.
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Thanks for the info on the ISC deal. Makes me feel better about my package day 21 here hoping in the next few days it pulls through I have full faith.
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Thanks for the info on the ISC deal. Makes me feel better about my package day 21 here hoping in the next few days it pulls through I have full faith.
It should def be there in the next couple of days man....no worries.
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Cool. Thanks for the info guys. If his packaging is as good as everyone says, then I'm sure I shouldn't have much to worry about.
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Hey question for everyone! I was thinking about getting some MDMA and was just curious as to how it compares to ST or symbiosis. If somebody would let me know i would really appreciate it thanks!
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so wtf are these green specks? anyone have any idea??
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Anyone received recently in the EU that can comment on shipping times?
I see lots and lots of people in the US receiving both in the feedback and in this thread, but almost no EU.
Hey, ive ordered 100g to a country close to germany. Its been 9 days total now, including a weekend tho but still, ive never had to wait more than 4 days on any other package, im getting really worried.
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Anyone received recently in the EU that can comment on shipping times?
I see lots and lots of people in the US receiving both in the feedback and in this thread, but almost no EU.
Received mine today (within EU). Was marked in transit about 10-12 days ago. Once I saw the packaging I felt so reassured (it's fantastic), will be certainly ordering again once I test the product.
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Anyone received recently in the EU that can comment on shipping times?
I see lots and lots of people in the US receiving both in the feedback and in this thread, but almost no EU.
5 Days to a neighbor country of Germany.
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Man, who keeps attacking my karma? Passive aggression....
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Man, who keeps attacking my karma? Passive aggression....
How does this karma shit work? Mine keeps going up and down. What does it mean.
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Anyone received recently in the EU that can comment on shipping times?
I see lots and lots of people in the US receiving both in the feedback and in this thread, but almost no EU.
Hey, ive ordered 100g to a country close to germany. Its been 9 days total now, including a weekend tho but still, ive never had to wait more than 4 days on any other package, im getting really worried.
German Post is very slow. It could have set in the originate post office for almost a week before even moving. That is what at least what tracking shows the times i've had it. Then it might go to another post or two for a couple of days before it completely leaves the country. I have no clue why the German post is this slow, but it has been the slowest i've encountered on the SR so far.
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Man, who keeps attacking my karma? Passive aggression....
How does this karma shit work? Mine keeps going up and down. What does it mean.
When you become a Full Member at 100 posts, you can "thank" or "discourage" users which gives them positive or negative karma. Frankly, I think it's a stupid system, as you will get roid-raging pricks like "unknown79" who will give you negative karma as much as they are allowed in order to pass the time in their meaningless and disparaged lives. Basically, the karma system can not be taken seriously because any user, ranked Full Member or higher, can attack another users karma for any reason they wish.
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Man, who keeps attacking my karma? Passive aggression....
Yea bro karma shit is stupid... I read your explanation below and it was great, just a little large to quote haha... but yea also sucks cause since under 100 can't give karma and seems like they always ask questions and say +1 for the answers we give sometimes but can't really take that +1 lol..... Well I like your posts and see your name come up positively enough so Ima break ur even karma bullshit ;D
Oh and sorry, but to keep this on topic, my processing time with Dutch was about 3 days... ordered more than 10 grams but didn't FE... Hearing all this shit about his packaging I kinda wish I did go with 50 ???
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Man, who keeps attacking my karma? Passive aggression....
Yea bro karma shit is stupid... I read your explanation below and it was great, just a little large to quote haha... but yea also sucks cause since under 100 can't give karma and seems like they always ask questions and say +1 for the answers we give sometimes but can't really take that +1 lol..... Well I like your posts and see your name come up positively enough so Ima break ur even karma bullshit ;D
Oh and sorry, but to keep this on topic, my processing time with Dutch was about 3 days... ordered more than 10 grams but didn't FE... Hearing all this shit about his packaging I kinda wish I did go with 50 ???
Thanks bro :) +1 to you for proving that there are decent people around here
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People that had green specks,can you post a pic?
Are they separate green specks you can pick out ? or are the green specks part of the mandee and consist of most of your sack??
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People that had green specks,can you post a pic?
Are they separate green specks you can pick out ? or are the green specks part of the mandee and consist of most of your sack??
I had some green specks in my 10g's. It didn't have an odor or a taste. You can pick it out, but it isn't necessary.
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You can pick them out? :o My order should be in any day now so I'm curious.
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You can pick them out? :o My order should be in any day now so I'm curious.
I had only 1 green speck in my order. I took one out with a tweezers.
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You can pick them out and they also do not wash away with acetone I did a wash on 1g to test purity and yielded 90% pure MDMA powder. Gonna rerock it today
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just saw this on another forum---I am posting it for US domestic buyers----this might help some of the worries with long wait orders!!!
North America (USA & Canada)
USA
Start date: 5th October 2012
End date: TBC
USPS have just informed us that they have up to 3 days backlog of traffic at JFK. This has been a result of changes imposed by US Customs & Border control relating to a requirement to route all import traffic through the USPS radiation scanner which is the entry point from airside into the USPS airmail unit. USPS have deployed people to assist with the plans to clear the backlog.
Normal service is expected to resume within a week.
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You can pick them out and they also do not wash away with acetone I did a wash on 1g to test purity and yielded 90% pure MDMA powder. Gonna rerock it today
Are you using water for the recrystallization or another (polar) solvent? J/w
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I didn't have any green specks in my 250 gram order.
I received a 30g order with nothing but rock salt but I then received a 10g order with the caramel sassy green speck batch,
Either way its fire and worth the price and some.
Are you using water for the recrystallization or another (polar) solvent? J/w
IPA tek
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I received a 100g order to the US recently with no problems. Shipping took a little over 2 weeks I think, which is reasonable. People who've waited a week and are freakin just need to take a deep breath and wait a little bit, no reason to be unnecessarily concerned. Also, the tracking number did not work until after the package was updated to already being at ISC, took around 12ish days I think. Quality is good; mine also had the green specks in it, but they're small and easy to pick out anyway so a non-issue for me. The mdma was a mix of both fairly clear and caramely crystals of various size (biggest rocks probably not bigger than .5g) and some smaller crystal/powder.
Summary: No concerns from me, would order again, highly satisfied.
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Hey springseed thanks for the info man makes me happy hope its not false hope
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got my order today ;D packaging was great, weight was spot on. i did have 3 of the green specks, the best i could describe it is it's like that fake grass you put in kids easter egg baskets, only super small fragments of that though. a few chunks up to .5 g to sandy shards, i'm quite content so far with my purchase.
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Nothing today. Going to extend the resolution to tuesday. Which will be a full 4 weeks. Trying to give dutch the benefit of the doubt since in his vendor page he says it can take up to 4 weeks.
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Got my order today! (EU, 8 days including weekend) Packaging was superb and the envelope did (in my case) have my name on it.
Going to weigh it and check that everything is kosher before finalizing but it sure looks like it. :)
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Anyone who says this is good packaging is a complete fucktard.
odd i'd say the same thing about somebody who didn't think this was good packaging.
I swear if there's no receiver name on my package ill be pissed cuz i live at college, and sending without a receiver name means anyone can open it or they will just disregard the package. goddamit someone else tell me they had their name on it.
my fake name was clearly on the package...
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My order arrived. This is absolutely the worst packaging I have ever encountered. No customs declaration, it was torn open, and there was only an address, no name for the receiver. The product was sealed poorly, smells and looks terrible and is full of pieces of green particles. I'm keeping this in resolution until I have it tested. This is completely unacceptable. Almost a month of waiting for this. My order from Afterhour was infinitely better quality and arrived in less than two weeks. Will not order again.
Joey------dude why do you always fuck with the good vendors!!!!!!! its hard to call you out, because I do not know what and how you got it, but a lot of people say differently.
Although, on his page, it does seem some packages were intercepted in Austrailia.
Hmmmm.........this makes you think-------but these words are coming from fire mouth himself. Anyhow------I am sure your shit will be fire Joey G!!!!
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Quick question: am I the only one who didn't have a customs declaration or a receiver name on my order? No CN22, no name. Just a street address.
I had nothing more than stamps, return addy and my label and drop addy.
No CN22
and are you seriously going to sit here and say Afterhours stealth is better? I'm on your side I'd be rip shit if I got a package with problems but I mean Afterhours gear is good but the fucking shipping is gonna land people in Jail.
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Just a god damn street address! You had one job Tyrone! How do you forget the receiver name?
Calm down bro, you said what you needed to say, we heard you
At least you have your order
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no custom form here... i've never had one for overseas orders, but those were mainly seeds coming british royal mail, not from germany.
i understand you're upset, but i'd rather no name and an address over a name and no address :P
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Has anyone received a package from dutch after 24 days?
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My order arrived. This is absolutely the worst packaging I have ever encountered. No customs declaration, it was torn open, and there was only an address, no name for the receiver. The product was sealed poorly, smells and looks terrible and is full of pieces of green particles. I'm keeping this in resolution until I have it tested. This is completely unacceptable. Almost a month of waiting for this. My order from Afterhour was infinitely better quality and arrived in less than two weeks. Will not order again.
Joey------dude why do you always fuck with the good vendors!!!!!!! its hard to call you out, because I do not know what and how you got it, but a lot of people say differently.
Although, on his page, it does seem some packages were intercepted in Austrailia.
Hmmmm.........this makes you think-------but these words are coming from fire mouth himself. Anyhow------I am sure your shit will be fire Joey G!!!!
I'm not bagging dutch or his product because the charlie was super good, but i do have to agree with Joey, i got mine with my name on it which is good and expected, what i didnt expect was to have no return address on it. in Australia if there is no return address then customs will flag it for scrutiny as a suspisous package. he may as well have addressed it to micky mouse which would be just as suss.
i will buy from dutch again but i will be asking for better stelth. if customs opened my package charlie would have fallen into their laps with a pic of me smiling at them.
just sharing my experiance with this packaging but over all i am happy with the Dutch.
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The way I see it is..I could order 10g of Dutch's MDMA and risk having it not show up due to "shady" packaging or I could pay twice that amount for the same risk of it not showing up with any other vendor. I think I'll try my luck.
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Some times the return address isn't where you think, I missed it on my first package....just saying. It's definitely standard on his packs (4 for 4 i.e. 100%. Maybe some people's fell off.)
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The way I see it is..I could order 10g of Dutch's MDMA and risk having it not show up due to "shady" packaging or I could pay twice that amount for the same risk of it not showing up with any other vendor. I think I'll try my luck.
you're not just risking it not showing up. you're risking going to jail.
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^There's always that chance when you're buying drugs from anywhere, hopefully everyone realizes that. Now that Dutch ships from Germany, and from the stealth that I've received, I've felt less paranoid than any of non-domestic order I've ever made. Judging from his reviews this month and his rating going back up 5 pts his success rates are pretty damn high.
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I placed an order with Afterhour the exact same time as dutch. Afterhour allowed me to keep the order in escrow, the package had a CN22, a receiver name, a return address, was double sealed, arrived in 2 weeks, and the quality was much better. It wasn't oily or full of green mystery specs and smells and looks much better. I have some to compare it to. Compared to AH's shipment this is a complete joke. Oh, I think the price was almost the exact same. So... yeah. Your logic is flawed. I am now so satisfied with my AH purchase he will be my go to guy from now on. This order is a complete joke.
pics plz
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I placed an order with Afterhour the exact same time as dutch. Afterhour allowed me to keep the order in escrow, the package had a CN22, a receiver name, a return address, was double sealed, arrived in 2 weeks, and the quality was much better. It wasn't oily or full of green mystery specs and smells and looks much better. I have some to compare it to. Compared to AH's shipment this is a complete joke. Oh, I think the price was almost the exact same. So... yeah. Your logic is flawed. I am now so satisfied with my AH purchase he will be my go to guy from now on. This order is a complete joke.
You neglect to mention how the double vac seal is literally placed inside a package with no stealth at all.
And I did too have a CN22 and the contents said something that wasnt even similar shape to what was inside.
Afterhours gear is fire. Some of the best I have had. I got 3 gram rocks from him but at what cost?
I placed 2 orders with Dutch 10g (sassy green spec batch) and 30g (rock salt fire looking batch).
Shit happens, this isnt fucking Walmart I bet the molly is still fire. I did a 1g wash and yielded 90%.. you tell me..
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I placed an order with Afterhour the exact same time as dutch. Afterhour allowed me to keep the order in escrow, the package had a CN22, a receiver name, a return address, was double sealed, arrived in 2 weeks, and the quality was much better. It wasn't oily or full of green mystery specs and smells and looks much better. I have some to compare it to. Compared to AH's shipment this is a complete joke. Oh, I think the price was almost the exact same. So... yeah. Your logic is flawed. I am now so satisfied with my AH purchase he will be my go to guy from now on. This order is a complete joke.
Quality was much better? Keep talking out of your ass. I find it amusing. Same price? Far from it. This is Dutch's review thread, not an AH fanboy thread. Get the fuck out.
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The main problem I have with Dutch's molly is: most of it comes as straight up MDMA sand. This is exactly what a friend of mine said when he seen the sand: "Awwww man they got you. This looks shitty as fuck." It also has a dirty foot smell to it. Maybe because it was wet with something for extra weight, but I don't know. People don't like this shit around here locally. I would much rather pay an extra $300-$350 for THE ROCKS. It tested good and everything but, it also has to look good too (AKA THE ROCKS). I most likely will avoid buying from him because he was kind of shady when I messaged him. This is a completely honest review so don't be like : "Oh this guy is full of shit!" This would be a great review if it was top notch MDMA, he didn't lie to me when he messaged me about certain things and I wasn't SHORTED.
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Well shit, I'm on my 33rd day and Dutch offered a 50% refund, which is great as he only offered 20% on his vendor page. I don't want my stats fucked up though, so was thinking about releasing the funds and getting a 50% reship instead. Joey's comment is scaring me a little cause i never had a package not arrive. What to do....
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I'll just get the 50% resend and have my stats stay intact. Sucks, but oh well. Better something than nothing. :(
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Oh don't let my comment scare you off. That wasn't my intention. I thought I might as well alert the forum that I received an almost undeliverable amateur package of schedule 1 contraband at the home of a close friend of mine. It was a careless, easily preventable mistake. I now know not to make the mistake of using this vendor again. So, ostracize me, do what you wish with the information I have given. I have no agenda here.
You complain there was no receiver name on it ?
We use the info what you send us when you make the order when there is no receivers name then its also not on the package's?
When you make a fault don come complain theme by us :)
About the return address there are is a return address at the BACK of the package's,
Your complain that's the mdma from AF is better ?
What he sell now is the same batch the only different is that we crush it !!!
This all look a little strange..
Greats DA
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Hey my order is at the NYC ISC like a previous poster had said.
Whats the longest someones had a package stay there?
im on day 6 of my package being there :/
Thanks
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We not accruing you i tell you its your own fault that there is no name on the package's when you make an order you need to check 2 times if its right if you have not didn't do that don blame it on us!!
If you had read my terms you see that we send it stealth ass possible a return address on it,
And that is how you receive your package's, This is safe our arrive rate to all country's is more then 97% !!
I see not that we add CN22 Declaration to the package's ?
If you want that we add it you had to ask us for it but you never do....
Our mdma is 80% what you want more....
because it are no big rocks? no its because we crush it to hold our package's safe....
We send on our way if you don like it you had read the term before you ordered..
We do our work right so package's will arrive !
Dutchaanbod
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So you're accusing me of forgetting to add my own name? What kind of incompetent vendor would even allow that if that were the case? Would you not contact me to ask I correct my mistake before shipping?
I don't know how shit works in Europe but over here addresses have people that live there. The addresses themselves don't have mail delivered to them.
I didn't say you didn't have a return address, I said you didn't attach a CN22 customs declaration.
And AH's batch and your batch aren't the same. His is lighter, smells better, is a singular color, the rocks are single crystals, not globular clumps and don't crumble apart like yours, and it isn't oily. Oh, and yours is sand and tiny pebbles and his doesn't have bits of some sort of weird crushed up green-colored decorative holiday grass in it. I broke your batch out on a glossy-covered book and could feel the oily residue left behind on my finger.
I have both batches, both ordered the exact same day right in front of me, I call it #1 and #2. Two entirely different substances. Yours just happened to take two weeks longer to arrive
And I have zero refunds, 5k+ spent and 20 transactions. This is a small order, I have no reason to scam you. Your piss-ant 10 grams isn't worth going to war over, or fucking up my stats, but your indifference and arrogance is allowing my conscience to keep this in resolution while I seek a refund, on principle. You're also getting a 1/5 rating.
So if there's anything else I need to add let me know. Luckily my scales included a set of tweezers so I can fish this confetti looking green shit out if this bag. It would be less difficult if it wasn't a bunch of oily sandy MDMA.
Yes, this does look a little strange. On your part.
I say good day sir! 8)
Joey-----Man why are you such a dick------------ You got your product your not in jail----so WTF. SR is going to laugh at you when you try to get money back.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW-------JOEY HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT NAMES AND IDENTITIES-----AND HE DOES SORT OF TROLL.
I HAVE SEEN HIM WORK OVER OTHER VENDORS ON THEIR PAGES AS WELL---
HOWEVER, he did troll out Sour Diesel Man about his hash------which was sort of appropriate, just not the way he went about it.
Sorry----Vinny007-------just calling in like I see it!!
And yea I would be pissed to if I got your package the way you describe it-----but to stop payment for product received-----YOUR A DICK
and a 1+ for dutch who is being much nicer than i would be in his shoes
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I'll just get the 50% resend and have my stats stay intact. Sucks, but oh well. Better something than nothing. :(
Just asked dutch about that he doesn't do reships you gatta take the refund and get a new order.
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The main problem I have with Dutch's molly is: most of it comes as straight up MDMA sand. This is exactly what a friend of mine said when he seen the sand: "Awwww man they got you. This looks shitty as fuck." It also has a dirty foot smell to it. Maybe because it was wet with something for extra weight, but I don't know. People don't like this shit around here locally. I would much rather pay an extra $300-$350 for THE ROCKS. It tested good and everything but, it also has to look good too (AKA THE ROCKS). I most likely will avoid buying from him because he was kind of shady when I messaged him. This is a completely honest review so don't be like : "Oh this guy is full of shit!" This would be a great review if it was top notch MDMA, he didn't lie to me when he messaged me about certain things and I wasn't SHORTED.
That's some of the most rediculous shit I've ever heard. MDMA sand, is the same as MDMA crystals. It's all MDMA, and will have the same effect whether it's crushed or still in pebbles. Pfand used to send me finely crushed MDMA, and everyone around here loved it! They saw the Marquis reaction turn black, and knew what that meant. Sucks that the people in your area are ignorant.
I would rather pay $300 LESS for QUALITY product, no matter what form it came in.
I haven't eaten any of this batch, but a friend snorted a line and loved it and i've sold almost all of my order to friends and haven't gotten one single complaint, and this is people who are used to getting batches from Skyy, Pfand, and Eazyjet.
Reagent tests reactions are great.
So when your friend said "awww man they got you" i would of laughed in his face and said "eat 125mg and then come tell me that."
Not trying to be mean, just know what you're talking about before you talk about it. True big rocks are easier to sell cus off the bat you see it and know whats up, but good shit is good shit regardless. And for the kinda price Dutch is selling at, I'm a happy customer all the way
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I'll just get the 50% resend and have my stats stay intact. Sucks, but oh well. Better something than nothing. :(
Just asked dutch about that he doesn't do reships you gatta take the refund and get a new order.
I released funds to him and he sent enough back for me to get 50% with shipping included. Dutch is a great vendor. I'd say that was very fair and very nice of him.
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My order arrived. This is absolutely the worst packaging I have ever encountered. No customs declaration, it was torn open, and there was only an address, no name for the receiver. The product was sealed poorly, smells and looks terrible and is full of pieces of green particles. I'm keeping this in resolution until I have it tested. This is completely unacceptable. Almost a month of waiting for this. My order from Afterhour was infinitely better quality and arrived in less than two weeks. Will not order again.
Hey Vinny
You do like to complain a lot!
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ppl who see their packages sitting at these sort facilities are getting large orders correct? from what I thought I read tracking was only available on 50grams or more...
in Northeast USA, what have people experienced with shipping times typically? tried almost all the MDMA on The Road and excited to try this...placed an order on 10/12...still says "processing"....need this for Halloween...
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Has anybody managed to successfully recrystallize there shit?
Any links to good teks on it?
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So my 100gr order came in Wednesday, and I rolled on Friday with a few friends at the club. Brought a little extra and passed it out. The entire night everyone was telling me this is the best shit I've ever gotten!! Already gotten rid of over half of it :D You are awesome dutch!!!
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I'll just get the 50% resend and have my stats stay intact. Sucks, but oh well. Better something than nothing. :(
Just asked dutch about that he doesn't do reships you gatta take the refund and get a new order.
I released funds to him and he sent enough back for me to get 50% with shipping included. Dutch is a great vendor. I'd say that was very fair and very nice of him.
Shit Ill have to ask him if I can do the same thing, how much did you buy if you dont mind me asking?
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You'd be extremely lucky to receive your order by Halloween if you just placed it.
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The main problem I have with Dutch's molly is: most of it comes as straight up MDMA sand. This is exactly what a friend of mine said when he seen the sand: "Awwww man they got you. This looks shitty as fuck." It also has a dirty foot smell to it. Maybe because it was wet with something for extra weight, but I don't know. People don't like this shit around here locally. I would much rather pay an extra $300-$350 for THE ROCKS. It tested good and everything but, it also has to look good too (AKA THE ROCKS). I most likely will avoid buying from him because he was kind of shady when I messaged him. This is a completely honest review so don't be like : "Oh this guy is full of shit!" This would be a great review if it was top notch MDMA, he didn't lie to me when he messaged me about certain things and I wasn't SHORTED.
That's some of the most rediculous shit I've ever heard. MDMA sand, is the same as MDMA crystals. It's all MDMA, and will have the same effect whether it's crushed or still in pebbles. Pfand used to send me finely crushed MDMA, and everyone around here loved it! They saw the Marquis reaction turn black, and knew what that meant. Sucks that the people in your area are ignorant.
I would rather pay $300 LESS for QUALITY product, no matter what form it came in.
I haven't eaten any of this batch, but a friend snorted a line and loved it and i've sold almost all of my order to friends and haven't gotten one single complaint, and this is people who are used to getting batches from Skyy, Pfand, and Eazyjet.
Reagent tests reactions are great.
So when your friend said "awww man they got you" i would of laughed in his face and said "eat 125mg and then come tell me that."
Not trying to be mean, just know what you're talking about before you talk about it. True big rocks are easier to sell cus off the bat you see it and know whats up, but good shit is good shit regardless. And for the kinda price Dutch is selling at, I'm a happy customer all the way
+1 for you! well said! that guy is a fucking retard just like his friends! lol
@danceandsing
It took him 3 days to mark my order in transit..it will take at LEAST 14 days to get your shipment in from what everybody else is saying..I would suggest try using either cloud surfer or symbiosis if you want quality moon rocks promptly delivered.
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I'll just get the 50% resend and have my stats stay intact. Sucks, but oh well. Better something than nothing. :(
Just asked dutch about that he doesn't do reships you gatta take the refund and get a new order.
I released funds to him and he sent enough back for me to get 50% with shipping included. Dutch is a great vendor. I'd say that was very fair and very nice of him.
Shit Ill have to ask him if I can do the same thing, how much did you buy if you dont mind me asking?
Pretty small order. 10g. Was waiting for this to come through so i could get 100g. First time something didnt come, so maybe my drop box is hot. Gotta find a new one.
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You'd be extremely lucky to receive your order by Halloween if you just placed it.
yep i agree-----aint happening for halloween-----i would buy some domestic back up!!!!
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The main problem I have with Dutch's molly is: most of it comes as straight up MDMA sand. This is exactly what a friend of mine said when he seen the sand: "Awwww man they got you. This looks shitty as fuck." It also has a dirty foot smell to it. Maybe because it was wet with something for extra weight, but I don't know. People don't like this shit around here locally. I would much rather pay an extra $300-$350 for THE ROCKS. It tested good and everything but, it also has to look good too (AKA THE ROCKS). I most likely will avoid buying from him because he was kind of shady when I messaged him. This is a completely honest review so don't be like : "Oh this guy is full of shit!" This would be a great review if it was top notch MDMA, he didn't lie to me when he messaged me about certain things and I wasn't SHORTED.
The order i got from Cloudsurfer was crushed sand....it had very very small pebbles in it.
That's some of the most rediculous shit I've ever heard. MDMA sand, is the same as MDMA crystals. It's all MDMA, and will have the same effect whether it's crushed or still in pebbles. Pfand used to send me finely crushed MDMA, and everyone around here loved it! They saw the Marquis reaction turn black, and knew what that meant. Sucks that the people in your area are ignorant.
I would rather pay $300 LESS for QUALITY product, no matter what form it came in.
I haven't eaten any of this batch, but a friend snorted a line and loved it and i've sold almost all of my order to friends and haven't gotten one single complaint, and this is people who are used to getting batches from Skyy, Pfand, and Eazyjet.
Reagent tests reactions are great.
So when your friend said "awww man they got you" i would of laughed in his face and said "eat 125mg and then come tell me that."
Not trying to be mean, just know what you're talking about before you talk about it. True big rocks are easier to sell cus off the bat you see it and know whats up, but good shit is good shit regardless. And for the kinda price Dutch is selling at, I'm a happy customer all the way
+1 for you! well said! that guy is a fucking retard just like his friends! lol
@danceandsing
It took him 3 days to mark my order in transit..it will take at LEAST 14 days to get your shipment in from what everybody else is saying..I would suggest try using either cloud surfer or symbiosis if you want quality moon rocks promptly delivered.
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OK, completed my FE as per agreement on 100g MDMA order that had reached NY destination sort facility. Received a few days later with no issues, but did have to sign for the tracked package. Total time from order to in transit to received was about 17 days. Tracking number took about 8 days before it worked.
Weight was a tiny bit lite, but passed Mecke, Marquis and Simon's with flying colors. Best packaging on SR to date, finally someone that understands what stealth is.
Product definately looks better than those crazy green pictures with Dutch's listing. It was a mix of white/grey/tan sand and nuggets and lots of broken shards but I don't really care what shape it's in when I get it as long as it's FIRE.
Only communication with Dutch was getting my tracking number, telling him that I completed the FE when in US and telling him the order came in with no issues. All was as professional as buying drugs over the internet with a fake currency from a guy you have never met from a foreign country can be.
All in all a perfect transaction, thanks Dutch!
inlovewithmolly
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
Dude make them 100-125mg its safer and u will make way more profit.
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Someone please take a picture of the latest stock.
I'll suck your dick
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
I do 83Kg and i my average for first caps is 0.30/0.35
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
I do 83Kg and i my average for first caps is 0.30/0.35
I'm sorry but this is either bullshit or your just an idiot for one of many reasons!!! Firstly recommending that dose is flat out unsafe, thats beyond a shit ton and especially for a tiny 83kg!! Secondly thats just absolute overkill unless you are an idiot like mentioned and roll like 2-3 times a week and just abuse the shit out of your brain!! Be safe start with like 120mg if not experienced with a new batch... you can always take more but can't take that shit back! ???
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
I do 83Kg and i my average for first caps is 0.30/0.35
.3??? On pure MDMA? Oh hell, you'd better be cutting that. It's all good to take a shit ton of stepped on Molly over the course of the night but people WILL redose and pure Molly is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments. Neurotoxicity is not just a scary word doctors throw at partying teens, it's a real attribute of MDMA. If you're selling it by the cap, do yourself and your customers a favor and GIVE THEM LESS. People are dumb, and there's no reason to be an irresponsible dealer, man.
No offense meant of course, it's just that the medical horror stories are rare but usually come from shit like this.
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
If you're capping it up, stick to 100mg. Everybody's different, there is no such thing as a "normal" interaction, and from the sounds of it (haven't opened my package yet) this stuff is the business. You'll do yourself and others more favors by being cautious and reasonably priced than by making sure it "gets the job done". Because it will.
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I take 2times mdma per week as least, all my friends so the same, we start with a big caps otherwise we got a too small rolls ....
We never got any problems, its probably unsafe ... but we don't use drugs for safety !
Got a big caps is another trips, you rolls is so good so hard ! You need to try ... i'm serious
And yes we use pure mdma, 80% of the mdma is buy here, 20% on the street (but it's a really really good mdma ! like many vendor here)
(and some of my friend only do 70kg and they eat 0.3 at least)
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
Dude make them 100-125mg its safer and u will make way more profit.
Not selling, these are for personal consumption among myself and friends. So just wanted to hear some first-hand experience from people that have tested it out and see what kind of doses they were using.
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Hey there all
has anyone had their package sit in NYC ISC for more than a week(7 days)?
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The main problem I have with Dutch's molly is: most of it comes as straight up MDMA sand. This is exactly what a friend of mine said when he seen the sand: "Awwww man they got you. This looks shitty as fuck." It also has a dirty foot smell to it. Maybe because it was wet with something for extra weight, but I don't know. People don't like this shit around here locally. I would much rather pay an extra $300-$350 for THE ROCKS. It tested good and everything but, it also has to look good too (AKA THE ROCKS). I most likely will avoid buying from him because he was kind of shady when I messaged him. This is a completely honest review so don't be like : "Oh this guy is full of shit!" This would be a great review if it was top notch MDMA, he didn't lie to me when he messaged me about certain things and I wasn't SHORTED.
That's some of the most rediculous shit I've ever heard. MDMA sand, is the same as MDMA crystals. It's all MDMA, and will have the same effect whether it's crushed or still in pebbles. Pfand used to send me finely crushed MDMA, and everyone around here loved it! They saw the Marquis reaction turn black, and knew what that meant. Sucks that the people in your area are ignorant.
I would rather pay $300 LESS for QUALITY product, no matter what form it came in.
I haven't eaten any of this batch, but a friend snorted a line and loved it and i've sold almost all of my order to friends and haven't gotten one single complaint, and this is people who are used to getting batches from Skyy, Pfand, and Eazyjet.
Reagent tests reactions are great.
So when your friend said "awww man they got you" i would of laughed in his face and said "eat 125mg and then come tell me that."
Not trying to be mean, just know what you're talking about before you talk about it. True big rocks are easier to sell cus off the bat you see it and know whats up, but good shit is good shit regardless. And for the kinda price Dutch is selling at, I'm a happy customer all the way
+1 for you! well said! that guy is a fucking retard just like his friends! lol
@danceandsing
It took him 3 days to mark my order in transit..it will take at LEAST 14 days to get your shipment in from what everybody else is saying..I would suggest try using either cloud surfer or symbiosis if you want quality moon rocks promptly delivered.
You're the fucking retard for thinking it's acceptable to buy this oily WET shit with GRASS CLIPPINGS sprinkled on it for EXTRA WEIGHT.
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
I do 83Kg and i my average for first caps is 0.30/0.35
.3??? On pure MDMA? Oh hell, you'd better be cutting that. It's all good to take a shit ton of stepped on Molly over the course of the night but people WILL redose and pure Molly is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments. Neurotoxicity is not just a scary word doctors throw at partying teens, it's a real attribute of MDMA. If you're selling it by the cap, do yourself and your customers a favor and GIVE THEM LESS. People are dumb, and there's no reason to be an irresponsible dealer, man.
No offense meant of course, it's just that the medical horror stories are rare but usually come from shit like this.
First, we're all grown ups, so lets call it MDMA
Seconded, MDMA isn't dangerous
thirth, "pure [MDMA] is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments" + "People are dumb" = "medical horror stories are rare" LIKE REALLY???
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The main problem I have with Dutch's molly is: most of it comes as straight up MDMA sand. This is exactly what a friend of mine said when he seen the sand: "Awwww man they got you. This looks shitty as fuck." It also has a dirty foot smell to it. Maybe because it was wet with something for extra weight, but I don't know. People don't like this shit around here locally. I would much rather pay an extra $300-$350 for THE ROCKS. It tested good and everything but, it also has to look good too (AKA THE ROCKS). I most likely will avoid buying from him because he was kind of shady when I messaged him. This is a completely honest review so don't be like : "Oh this guy is full of shit!" This would be a great review if it was top notch MDMA, he didn't lie to me when he messaged me about certain things and I wasn't SHORTED.
That's some of the most rediculous shit I've ever heard. MDMA sand, is the same as MDMA crystals. It's all MDMA, and will have the same effect whether it's crushed or still in pebbles. Pfand used to send me finely crushed MDMA, and everyone around here loved it! They saw the Marquis reaction turn black, and knew what that meant. Sucks that the people in your area are ignorant.
I would rather pay $300 LESS for QUALITY product, no matter what form it came in.
I haven't eaten any of this batch, but a friend snorted a line and loved it and i've sold almost all of my order to friends and haven't gotten one single complaint, and this is people who are used to getting batches from Skyy, Pfand, and Eazyjet.
Reagent tests reactions are great.
So when your friend said "awww man they got you" i would of laughed in his face and said "eat 125mg and then come tell me that."
Not trying to be mean, just know what you're talking about before you talk about it. True big rocks are easier to sell cus off the bat you see it and know whats up, but good shit is good shit regardless. And for the kinda price Dutch is selling at, I'm a happy customer all the way
+1 for you! well said! that guy is a fucking retard just like his friends! lol
@danceandsing
It took him 3 days to mark my order in transit..it will take at LEAST 14 days to get your shipment in from what everybody else is saying..I would suggest try using either cloud surfer or symbiosis if you want quality moon rocks promptly delivered.
You're the fucking retard for thinking it's acceptable to buy this oily WET shit with GRASS CLIPPINGS sprinkled on it for EXTRA WEIGHT.
From the sounds of it, you're not getting a hell of a lot of them each order listed here. And Easter Basket grass clippings probably weigh less than 10mg each. Calm down, this might be a "sold as is" scenario where Dutch just grabs it from the chemist and ships it out without tampering. If he's using something that light for extra weight, that's more than desperate, it wouldn't make any sense.
Further, some chemists "tag" their product by adding some benign quality to it (I've seen pink MDMA cooked up by a girl I used to know. The product was still pure and it didn't add any weight to it).
You're grasping at straws if you think any of this is a problem. But just to settle some scores and for objectivity's sake:
CAN SOMEBODY ACCURATELY WEIGH THOSE GREEN SPECKS?
It if someone can attest to their weight, righteous, I'm sure everyone can stop bitching.
This is cheap, quality MDMA. Don't fuck this up. Pesci is the only one who's seemed to have shipping problems so far, and you know what? It's probably karma seeing the way he resolves problems. Sorry, bro, but there's more on Dutch's side than on yours by a lot. It sucks that you aren't satisfied, but kindly shut the fuck up and be grateful you got your package, eh?
Phew... This is the most rage I've done since I joined SR. Sorry if I offended anybody, but this is getting on my nerves.
Cheers!
~Democles
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The main problem I have with Dutch's molly is: most of it comes as straight up MDMA sand. This is exactly what a friend of mine said when he seen the sand: "Awwww man they got you. This looks shitty as fuck." It also has a dirty foot smell to it. Maybe because it was wet with something for extra weight, but I don't know. People don't like this shit around here locally. I would much rather pay an extra $300-$350 for THE ROCKS. It tested good and everything but, it also has to look good too (AKA THE ROCKS). I most likely will avoid buying from him because he was kind of shady when I messaged him. This is a completely honest review so don't be like : "Oh this guy is full of shit!" This would be a great review if it was top notch MDMA, he didn't lie to me when he messaged me about certain things and I wasn't SHORTED.
That's some of the most rediculous shit I've ever heard. MDMA sand, is the same as MDMA crystals. It's all MDMA, and will have the same effect whether it's crushed or still in pebbles. Pfand used to send me finely crushed MDMA, and everyone around here loved it! They saw the Marquis reaction turn black, and knew what that meant. Sucks that the people in your area are ignorant.
I would rather pay $300 LESS for QUALITY product, no matter what form it came in.
I haven't eaten any of this batch, but a friend snorted a line and loved it and i've sold almost all of my order to friends and haven't gotten one single complaint, and this is people who are used to getting batches from Skyy, Pfand, and Eazyjet.
Reagent tests reactions are great.
So when your friend said "awww man they got you" i would of laughed in his face and said "eat 125mg and then come tell me that."
Not trying to be mean, just know what you're talking about before you talk about it. True big rocks are easier to sell cus off the bat you see it and know whats up, but good shit is good shit regardless. And for the kinda price Dutch is selling at, I'm a happy customer all the way
+1 for you! well said! that guy is a fucking retard just like his friends! lol
@danceandsing
It took him 3 days to mark my order in transit..it will take at LEAST 14 days to get your shipment in from what everybody else is saying..I would suggest try using either cloud surfer or symbiosis if you want quality moon rocks promptly delivered.
You're the fucking retard for thinking it's acceptable to buy this oily WET shit with GRASS CLIPPINGS sprinkled on it for EXTRA WEIGHT.
This is why there is a financial crises in America because of subprime assholes like sancho spending above and beyond their means
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
I do 83Kg and i my average for first caps is 0.30/0.35
.3??? On pure MDMA? Oh hell, you'd better be cutting that. It's all good to take a shit ton of stepped on Molly over the course of the night but people WILL redose and pure Molly is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments. Neurotoxicity is not just a scary word doctors throw at partying teens, it's a real attribute of MDMA. If you're selling it by the cap, do yourself and your customers a favor and GIVE THEM LESS. People are dumb, and there's no reason to be an irresponsible dealer, man.
No offense meant of course, it's just that the medical horror stories are rare but usually come from shit like this.
First, we're all grown ups, so lets call it MDMA
Seconded, MDMA isn't dangerous
thirth, "pure [MDMA] is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments" + "People are dumb" = "medical horror stories are rare" LIKE REALLY???
There's nothing wrong with a street name, calm down.
Oh, and I thought we WERE grown ups here until you made the jackass move of saying MDMA isn't dangerous. Okay, if you want to stop deluding yourself, I've got some great reading material for you. Or you could just use fucking erowid like normal people.
Lastly, yeah, but you're adding "irresponsible dealer" to the equation, you asshole.
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The main problem I have with Dutch's molly is: most of it comes as straight up MDMA sand. This is exactly what a friend of mine said when he seen the sand: "Awwww man they got you. This looks shitty as fuck." It also has a dirty foot smell to it. Maybe because it was wet with something for extra weight, but I don't know. People don't like this shit around here locally. I would much rather pay an extra $300-$350 for THE ROCKS. It tested good and everything but, it also has to look good too (AKA THE ROCKS). I most likely will avoid buying from him because he was kind of shady when I messaged him. This is a completely honest review so don't be like : "Oh this guy is full of shit!" This would be a great review if it was top notch MDMA, he didn't lie to me when he messaged me about certain things and I wasn't SHORTED.
That's some of the most rediculous shit I've ever heard. MDMA sand, is the same as MDMA crystals. It's all MDMA, and will have the same effect whether it's crushed or still in pebbles. Pfand used to send me finely crushed MDMA, and everyone around here loved it! They saw the Marquis reaction turn black, and knew what that meant. Sucks that the people in your area are ignorant.
I would rather pay $300 LESS for QUALITY product, no matter what form it came in.
I haven't eaten any of this batch, but a friend snorted a line and loved it and i've sold almost all of my order to friends and haven't gotten one single complaint, and this is people who are used to getting batches from Skyy, Pfand, and Eazyjet.
Reagent tests reactions are great.
So when your friend said "awww man they got you" i would of laughed in his face and said "eat 125mg and then come tell me that."
Not trying to be mean, just know what you're talking about before you talk about it. True big rocks are easier to sell cus off the bat you see it and know whats up, but good shit is good shit regardless. And for the kinda price Dutch is selling at, I'm a happy customer all the way
+1 for you! well said! that guy is a fucking retard just like his friends! lol
@danceandsing
It took him 3 days to mark my order in transit..it will take at LEAST 14 days to get your shipment in from what everybody else is saying..I would suggest try using either cloud surfer or symbiosis if you want quality moon rocks promptly delivered.
You're the fucking retard for thinking it's acceptable to buy this oily WET shit with GRASS CLIPPINGS sprinkled on it for EXTRA WEIGHT.
This is why there is a financial crises in America because of subprime assholes like sancho spending above and beyond their means
Spending above and beyond my means? Is that supposed to be a joke? Keep getting fed like a bird small fry.
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keep bitching fat boy!
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
I do 83Kg and i my average for first caps is 0.30/0.35
.3??? On pure MDMA? Oh hell, you'd better be cutting that. It's all good to take a shit ton of stepped on Molly over the course of the night but people WILL redose and pure Molly is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments. Neurotoxicity is not just a scary word doctors throw at partying teens, it's a real attribute of MDMA. If you're selling it by the cap, do yourself and your customers a favor and GIVE THEM LESS. People are dumb, and there's no reason to be an irresponsible dealer, man.
No offense meant of course, it's just that the medical horror stories are rare but usually come from shit like this.
First, we're all grown ups, so lets call it MDMA
Seconded, MDMA isn't dangerous
thirth, "pure [MDMA] is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments" + "People are dumb" = "medical horror stories are rare" LIKE REALLY???
There's nothing wrong with a street name, calm down.
Oh, and I thought we WERE grown ups here until you made the jackass move of saying MDMA isn't dangerous. Okay, if you want to stop deluding yourself, I've got some great reading material for you. Or you could just use fucking erowid like normal people.
Lastly, yeah, but you're adding "irresponsible dealer" to the equation, you asshole.
You passionately believe MDMA is dangerous (which it isn't) yet you still take it?
You sound pretty damn stupid to me son.
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
I do 83Kg and i my average for first caps is 0.30/0.35
.3??? On pure MDMA? Oh hell, you'd better be cutting that. It's all good to take a shit ton of stepped on Molly over the course of the night but people WILL redose and pure Molly is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments. Neurotoxicity is not just a scary word doctors throw at partying teens, it's a real attribute of MDMA. If you're selling it by the cap, do yourself and your customers a favor and GIVE THEM LESS. People are dumb, and there's no reason to be an irresponsible dealer, man.
No offense meant of course, it's just that the medical horror stories are rare but usually come from shit like this.
First, we're all grown ups, so lets call it MDMA
Seconded, MDMA isn't dangerous
thirth, "pure [MDMA] is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments" + "People are dumb" = "medical horror stories are rare" LIKE REALLY???
There's nothing wrong with a street name, calm down.
Oh, and I thought we WERE grown ups here until you made the jackass move of saying MDMA isn't dangerous. Okay, if you want to stop deluding yourself, I've got some great reading material for you. Or you could just use fucking erowid like normal people.
Lastly, yeah, but you're adding "irresponsible dealer" to the equation, you asshole.
You passionately believe MDMA is dangerous (which it isn't) yet you still take it?
You sound pretty damn stupid to me son.
I enjoy doing dangerous, harmful things. It's why I smoke cigarettes. People do all sorts of things that are bad for them, but as dealers we need to be responsible and minimize the amount of potential damage. MDMA has been reported by Sandoz labs and by Shulgin himself to be useful but NEUROTOXIC. If you don't know this about your own product, I'm seriously going to start praying for your customers.
In any case, I'm done flooding Dutch's review forum with a pointless argument on a well-documented fact.
I'll post again when I've opened my package and checked it all out.
Cheers, Dutch!
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Argue in a PM. Let's stay on topic please.
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
I do 83Kg and i my average for first caps is 0.30/0.35
.3??? On pure MDMA? Oh hell, you'd better be cutting that. It's all good to take a shit ton of stepped on Molly over the course of the night but people WILL redose and pure Molly is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments. Neurotoxicity is not just a scary word doctors throw at partying teens, it's a real attribute of MDMA. If you're selling it by the cap, do yourself and your customers a favor and GIVE THEM LESS. People are dumb, and there's no reason to be an irresponsible dealer, man.
No offense meant of course, it's just that the medical horror stories are rare but usually come from shit like this.
First, we're all grown ups, so lets call it MDMA
Seconded, MDMA isn't dangerous
thirth, "pure [MDMA] is dangerous as fuck at even standard increments" + "People are dumb" = "medical horror stories are rare" LIKE REALLY???
There's nothing wrong with a street name, calm down.
Oh, and I thought we WERE grown ups here until you made the jackass move of saying MDMA isn't dangerous. Okay, if you want to stop deluding yourself, I've got some great reading material for you. Or you could just use fucking erowid like normal people.
Lastly, yeah, but you're adding "irresponsible dealer" to the equation, you asshole.
You passionately believe MDMA is dangerous (which it isn't) yet you still take it?
You sound pretty damn stupid to me son.
LOL-------I do not normally get involved in these trifle whims----but WTF-----MDMA IS HIGHLY NEURO TOXIC----LOL
And yes, I bought a butt load:} So what-----can't you have truth with destructive behaviors!!!!
Any one here with kids----would you feed this stuff to your most precious item----why not---cause its good for them---lol
sorry no disrespect to anyone----just found it funny
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A safe amount of MDMA is 1-2mg/KG. Taken every 6-8 weeks to allow receptors to replenish and allow chemical rebalance. It is a neurotoxin and is only safe when taken in resposnible amounts.
Lets move the topic onwards. I hope I get my order in the next few days or it looks like resolution extention for me. Anyone get theirs before a resolution extension? I blame the mail because I have 4 other orders that are very late as well all from different countries (Portugal, France, NL, and CA)
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So, is Dutch's packaging good or shitty? I can clearly see that Joey was not a fan of the packaging, but was that just a fluke? A lot of people have said that it is great packaging and well worth the extra money for his shipping methods. How can opinions differ so significantly? I just want to know if I should be worried about my package not showing up. I know PF's packaging was pretty subpar. I could always smell the shit through the package. Is Dutch's like that? Is there anyone that has had experience with PF's packaging the can say whether Dutch's is better or not? Has anyone, with tracking, not have their package show up after it has already reached the ISC? Thanks in advance for any answers.
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Most people say he has good stealth.
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Cloudsurfer -> F16 -> HollyMolly -> Smile Market -> Sesampino -> SuperTrips -> Pfhandleir -> Dr. Nyx -> Ivory
Based on Cost, Policy, Quality, Delivery speed, Communications, and stealth.
When Dutchaanbod's comes in I'll add him to the list. I've gotten from all these vendors.
I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with Dutch? This is a post for the MDMA review thread. Once you get his product, by all means, report on where you think his MDMA ranks. But why would be care about anything in your post. NEEDLESS.
Joey, for whatever reason, your packaging wasn't great. But you seem to be the only one. Everyone is very happy with their packaging.
dondada, you received from Dutch...and obviously from many other vendors. How would you rate Dutchs packaging compared to other vendors?
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I have 20 tabs open and didn't realize I replied to the wrong one. Your extra long post ending with needless was needless. Freaking twat.
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How are the rest of you dosing Dutch's stuff? 150mg average? For bigger guys (100kg+) I've been filling caps with 170-220mg, and I'm wondering if this is too much...taking into account that preference is for a really strong roll.
Just wondering what the experiences for the rest of you have been so far.
I would go around 125mg for a nice roll I spose if you want to be completely munted 150mg will definitely do it
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I'm going to finalize my order because I received it. I don't want my stats fucked up over this transaction. But seriously, DB your packaging isn't spectacular. Even if I forgot to put my name with my address you shouldn't have sent it in that condition, especially without a customs declaration. Worst quality MDMA and packaging I've ever received. No CN22, no receipient. A fucking joke. I can't believe it cleared customs. I'm finalizing with prejudice. Asshole.
-you got your package. results matter. save the 1/5 reviews for vendors that scam you by not sending out product or whatever.
-Somebody else did a wash on that batch and got 90% of it back, nice and white. Reviews are very good.
-if you didn't put your name in then that's your own fault. The name isn't technically required. double check your own shit. I don't recommend it, but there are people that prefer to not have their name on the package.
-I've now gotten packages from 3 different vendors on SR other than dutch. None of them had the CN22. I personally don't give a shit because I don't think US customs gives a shit. If you do care then I recommend you check with the vendor first.
-thanks for finalizing, I agree that's the best thing to do.
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MollyMarley
Im in the same boat as you....
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you got no godamn right to get on here and say that ah is shit is probably better, because godamn its not green looking. you want some pretty shit stick with your ah. the one time i fucked with ah, those audi pills he had SUCKED, compared to super trips and skyys products, and i'm sure thats the same pretty molly he sends you. point of what I'm saying IS is dutch's shit legit, "regardless of greenness and odor or whatever the fuck else "looks" unordinary about it by your standards". is the shit GOOD nigga! i'm looking for quality cheap product, that is all, someone confirm that he has some good shit. AH's pills blow nuts.
The main problem I have with Dutch's molly is: most of it comes as straight up MDMA sand. This is exactly what a friend of mine said when he seen the sand: "Awwww man they got you. This looks shitty as fuck." It also has a dirty foot smell to it. Maybe because it was wet with something for extra weight, but I don't know. People don't like this shit around here locally. I would much rather pay an extra $300-$350 for THE ROCKS. It tested good and everything but, it also has to look good too (AKA THE ROCKS). I most likely will avoid buying from him because he was kind of shady when I messaged him. This is a completely honest review so don't be like : "Oh this guy is full of shit!" This would be a great review if it was top notch MDMA, he didn't lie to me when he messaged me about certain things and I wasn't SHORTED.
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i qouted the wrong fucking dude, tho that dude is an idiot too, that i just quoted, if he hasn't sampled product himself. but that other dude is a dick, man is dutchanbond got that shit or not?
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MollyMarley
Im in the same boat as you....
Yeah, I really hope it shows up soon. This waiting is getting ridiculous.
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can anybody else comment on this green shit in dutch's molly that joey is talking about? and is this molly actually good? and do you have to sign for your package?
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got a five day extension today. not gonna worry for another week or so, I'm on the west coast
I'm just posting because I know there's people trying to get a general idea of how long their packages are going to take
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I'm going to finalize my order because I received it. I don't want my stats fucked up over this transaction. But seriously, DB your packaging isn't spectacular. Even if I forgot to put my name with my address you shouldn't have sent it in that condition, especially without a customs declaration. Worst quality MDMA and packaging I've ever received. No CN22, no receipient. A fucking joke. I can't believe it cleared customs. I'm finalizing with prejudice. Asshole.
How do you know the quality...have you even tried it? Doesn't seem like it, considering all the time you've spent bashing Dutch. Why don't you just stop with the posts on here Joey. You are seriously biased and you seem like a huge gaping asshole. No one here likes you...are not contributing ANYTHING, considering you are the only person complaining. So just sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.
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Package arrived in 10 days to the U.K. The stealth could not have been better, safe as houses. The name and address were exactly what I sent to the vendor. I haven't tried it yet, but my advice to those who aren't sure which vendor to try - give Dutch a chance, you're taking a risk whoever you choose, but the one thing you can control is the price you pay for the product. At these prices it's a no brainer.
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Geez, I go away for a couple days and find 5+ pages full of complete bullshit posts...you all suck, and your bitching ALWAYS drives away perfectly competent vendors so my hope is that I can do as much business with dutch in the shortest amount of time possible before you all fuck it up for all of us.
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Geez, I go away for a couple days and find 5+ pages full of complete bullshit posts...you all suck, and your bitching ALWAYS drives away perfectly competent vendors so my hope is that I can do as much business with dutch in the shortest amount of time possible before you all fuck it up for all of us.
Word... I can't even begin to comprehend why people are complaining that its sand when It gets to them... IT PROBABLY GOT TO YOU BECAUSE IT IS SAND! I just placed my order with the Dutchaanbod and I will update when/if I receive my order with a trip report...... No reason for anyone to complain dutch has got the the cheapest molly plus its shipping out of Germany... May god bless you trolls
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Geez, I go away for a couple days and find 5+ pages full of complete bullshit posts...you all suck, and your bitching ALWAYS drives away perfectly competent vendors so my hope is that I can do as much business with dutch in the shortest amount of time possible before you all fuck it up for all of us.
Word... I can't even begin to comprehend why people are complaining that its sand when It gets to them... IT PROBABLY GOT TO YOU BECAUSE IT IS SAND! I just placed my order with the Dutchaanbod and I will update when/if I receive my order with a trip report...... No reason for anyone to complain dutch has got the the cheapest molly plus its shipping out of Germany... May god bless you trolls
The "Sand" is the same fucking quality as anything else in the bag, for fucks sake your getting your illegal drugs in the mail for a fraction of the cost of shit anywhere locally with some of the highest quality you can get, so shut the fuck up and let the man work! Hopefully trollin' in his thread won't turn him away since he's got a legit business arraignment that protects both the buyer and seller reasonably, but shit lay off the guy! Like he says, and now I understand why, "If you don't like it don't order"
I see nothing but mostly 5/5's on his vendor page and I've received the most awesome service from him in my one bulk transaction, so I really don't understand why all the fuss!
(Maybe it's because I'm still rolling on his gear that's making me this puzzled, lol)
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
Please don't stiffen up on your customers that give you no problems, by now you should have a pretty loyal client base :)
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
Grow some balls you sensitive faggot
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
Dutch please don't let a few people fuck shit up for all the happy customers you have.
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Everyone..
Just leave Dutch alone...
Your gear will come.
RELAX 8)
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
This post made me laugh so hard I shit myself.
I love the threats though, great stuff. Because if you no longer offer MDMA there are NO OTHER SELLERS on SR selling CHEAP DUTCH MDMA sent from GERMANY.
Cut the crap you fucking nonce, you need to sell here and you need to sell as much as possible because how else are you going to put a roof over your head, put food in your kids mouths, heroin in your needle?
Your weakness and reliance on customers here was pretty obvious when you tried to change your FE and international shipping policy and then performed a U-Turn when people said they would look elsewhere.
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
Grow some balls you sensitive faggot
did that make you feel any better scot? grow up mate, nothing wrong with dutch or his gear.
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
This post made me laugh so hard I shit myself.
I love the threats though, great stuff. Because if you no longer offer MDMA there are NO OTHER SELLERS on SR selling CHEAP DUTCH MDMA sent from GERMANY.
Cut the crap you fucking nonce, you need to sell here and you need to sell as much as possible because how else are you going to put a roof over your head, put food in your kids mouths, heroin in your needle?
Your weakness and reliance on customers here was pretty obvious when you tried to change your FE and international shipping policy and then performed a U-Turn when people said they would look elsewhere.
Your a idiot----I hope you buy from him, he knows who you are, and charges you twice the amount!!!!!!!!!!!!-----or sends you half of what you ordered.
Why people would want to fuck with a good vendor----who is clearly the best on the Road at the moment is beyond me.
This is the one time I think a Vendor should stay away from their own review page. Molly users tend to be much more freaks then L users or cannabis-----
I would say hes got a big roof over his head considering how much he has and is getting rid of---------Proably much more than your shite flat that you share with your mother!!!!
Nothing gets me more rude----than fuck off buyers----who know shit of SR Vending---------piss ants!!!!!!!!!
And with that-----Hope everyone had a great weekend!!!!
Thanks Dutch-----KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And no moonrocks with my order------if I want I will recrystalize!!!!
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
Grow some balls you sensitive faggot
did that make you feel any better scot? grow up mate, nothing wrong with dutch or his gear.
Of course.
There is nothing wrong with his product. But his product isn't unique either and certainly doesn't justify the dutchaanbod hissy fit
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
This post made me laugh so hard I shit myself.
I love the threats though, great stuff. Because if you no longer offer MDMA there are NO OTHER SELLERS on SR selling CHEAP DUTCH MDMA sent from GERMANY.
Cut the crap you fucking nonce, you need to sell here and you need to sell as much as possible because how else are you going to put a roof over your head, put food in your kids mouths, heroin in your needle?
Your weakness and reliance on customers here was pretty obvious when you tried to change your FE and international shipping policy and then performed a U-Turn when people said they would look elsewhere.
Your a idiot----I hope you buy from him, he knows who you are, and charges you twice the amount!!!!!!!!!!!!-----or sends you half of what you ordered.
Why people would want to fuck with a good vendor----who is clearly the best on the Road at the moment is beyond me.
This is the one time I think a Vendor should stay away from their own review page. Molly users tend to be much more freaks then L users or cannabis-----
I would say hes got a big roof over his head considering how much he has and is getting rid of---------Proably much more than your shite flat that you share with your mother!!!!
Nothing gets me more rude----than fuck off buyers----who know shit of SR Vending---------piss ants!!!!!!!!!
And with that-----Hope everyone had a great weekend!!!!
Thanks Dutch-----KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And no moonrocks with my order------if I want I will recrystalize!!!!
Bro you sound really angry >:( >:( >:(
8) 8)relex hommie,
::) :P :-[take a chill pill :-* :-*
;D ;D
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
Grow some balls you sensitive faggot
Go douche your fanny----I can smell your nasty pussy all the way across the pond----------Sc0t1and_Y4rdi3 your a ball munching teabagger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
Grow some balls you sensitive faggot
Go douche your fanny----I can smell your nasty pussy all the way across the pond----------Sc0t1and_Y4rdi3 your a ball munching teabagger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sure dutchaanbod appreciates your support in this thread
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Damn dutch your really ganna do all that lol? Just because of one asshole name joeyG? Be bigger than that man he will shut his trap soon, DONT let the haters phase you mane. Keep your fucking chin up do what you been doing works.
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Stop talking about this off-topic shit!
Dutch is a trusted vendor. His packages are safe and his products good. His mdma isn't oily, it's just mdma - rocks and sand.
@Dutch
Keep up the good work!
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Stop talking about this off-topic shit!
Dutch is a trusted vendor. His packages are safe and his products good. His mdma isn't oily, it's just mdma - rocks and sand.
@Dutch
Keep up the good work!
WTF is product is cut with sand?
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Out of many MDMA orders, I will gladly say this is the best transaction I have had yet.
Dutch's packaging has surpassed all other orders I've made.
-It was very stealthy. VERY STEALTHY.
-Smell was very well covered, and that's all due to Dutch making the smart decision of busting down the jagged rocks that have often cut through vacuum seals and comprised my safety. This has been an issue I've experience with ST, PF, and AH. Extra kudos to you dutch for being the first vendor to take this into consideration, and actually deal with it.
-Price shit's on everybody else's. And he even offers the wholesale rate to smaller bulk guys, which I consider to be 50-100gs.
-Communication is great. He responds very quickly. I was able to understand his english much more easily than AH's.
-Quality= very very good. Excellent purity on these rocks. And it was a good spread of medium sized rocks vs powder. I'm not a fan of the big rocks. You gotta bust them down eventually anyway. Like I mentioned above, those rocks just compromise safety. I'd rather not get pinched so I can jerk off over 1 gram crystals before I crack them to sell. Dutch's order had a BUNCH of .1, .2 rocks, which is PERFECT for dosing on. Some people may view one thing about his rocks as a negative: they didn't have a strong MDMA smell to them. Personally, I don't give a fuck about this. As long as it's strong, IDGAF mon!
So long as I don't have to finalize until all tracking #'s go live, I will definitely order again from dutchaanbood!
:) :) ;) ;) :D :D ;D ;D :o :o 8) 8) ::) ::) :P :P
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Out of many MDMA orders, I will gladly say this is the best transaction I have had yet.
Dutch's packaging has surpassed all other orders I've made.
-It was very stealthy. VERY STEALTHY.
-Smell was very well covered, and that's all due to Dutch making the smart decision of busting down the jagged rocks that have often cut through vacuum seals and comprised my safety. This has been an issue I've experience with ST, PF, and AH. Extra kudos to you dutch for being the first vendor to take this into consideration, and actually deal with it.
-Price shit's on everybody else's. And he even offers the wholesale rate to smaller bulk guys, which I consider to be 50-100gs.
-Communication is great. He responds very quickly. I was able to understand his english much more easily than AH's.
-Quality= very very good. Excellent purity on these rocks. And it was a good spread of medium sized rocks vs powder. I'm not a fan of the big rocks. You gotta bust them down eventually anyway. Like I mentioned above, those rocks just compromise safety. I'd rather not get pinched so I can jerk off over 1 gram crystals before I crack them to sell. Dutch's order had a BUNCH of .1, .2 rocks, which is PERFECT for dosing on. Some people may view one thing about his rocks as a negative: they didn't have a strong MDMA smell to them. Personally, I don't give a fuck about this. As long as it's strong, IDGAF mon!
So long as I don't have to finalize until all tracking #'s go live, I will definitely order again from dutchaanbood!
:) :) ;) ;) :D :D ;D ;D :o :o 8) 8) ::) ::) :P :P
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+1.. said perfectly.. i am currently waiting on my order from Dutch but I trust all these people saying its stealth and quality... main reason I do is firstly cause of who they are second its idiots saying AH packaging and shit is better.. come on? I have had shit from every vendor listed above and AH is by far worst packaging.. could smell it outside the envelope (due to gram rocks perforating the bag!!) also goods are right there so not sure what Dumbass Joey considers stealth??? Also anyone bitching about rocks vs sand is a FUCKING idiot... like said its all the same product and boo fucking hoo if you can't sell your $15-20 gram of MDMA for what $60-120 in the states... people sure do love getting nice rocks but guess what.. i don't charge there ass less if its all sandy so why complain??? Will be back to update when my shit arrives and this is just turning into PF's thread with non sense bullshit so when i return it will be with marquis results and time to SE US with a full review ;D ;D ;D
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I sold the 100gr I received in less than a week, and already placed an order with Dutch for 100 grams more!! :D FE terms are more than reasonable and I love the tracking he provides! The shipping is so great, I'm not even nervous about losing it. Anyone who is smeering Dutch, I just don't get it..It seems like even if a package doesn't arrive he gives a nice refund which is higher than he says on his profile.
Dutchaanbod: Mate, have you considered going stealth? Maybe only make your listings viewable to established customers? It would cut down on a lot of the bullshit.
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Out of many MDMA orders, I will gladly say this is the best transaction I have had yet.
Dutch's packaging has surpassed all other orders I've made.
-It was very stealthy. VERY STEALTHY.
-Smell was very well covered, and that's all due to Dutch making the smart decision of busting down the jagged rocks that have often cut through vacuum seals and comprised my safety. This has been an issue I've experience with ST, PF, and AH. Extra kudos to you dutch for being the first vendor to take this into consideration, and actually deal with it.
-Price shit's on everybody else's. And he even offers the wholesale rate to smaller bulk guys, which I consider to be 50-100gs.
-Communication is great. He responds very quickly. I was able to understand his english much more easily than AH's.
-Quality= very very good. Excellent purity on these rocks. And it was a good spread of medium sized rocks vs powder. I'm not a fan of the big rocks. You gotta bust them down eventually anyway. Like I mentioned above, those rocks just compromise safety. I'd rather not get pinched so I can jerk off over 1 gram crystals before I crack them to sell. Dutch's order had a BUNCH of .1, .2 rocks, which is PERFECT for dosing on. Some people may view one thing about his rocks as a negative: they didn't have a strong MDMA smell to them. Personally, I don't give a fuck about this. As long as it's strong, IDGAF mon!
So long as I don't have to finalize until all tracking #'s go live, I will definitely order again from dutchaanbood!
:) :) ;) ;) :D :D ;D ;D :o :o 8) 8) ::) ::) :P :P
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+1 to you mate
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
This is exactly what I was worried about.
Dutch, you've got the best prices for the quality you're providing. Just blacklist Joey. Like you always say "You don like it, don order!"
People are complaining? Fine, their loss! But don't compromise your business because a few people want to bitch and moan.
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Pictures of the new batch. Beautiful stuff.
http://4eiruntyxxbgfv7o.onion/imgzapr/upload/foto_no_exif-3.jpg
http://f3ew3p7s6lbftqm5.onion/pics/foto_no_exif-4.jpg
Molto Bella!
Bene Bene!
If I could give karma yet... Anyway, if anyone bitches after these pics and after seeing mostly good reviews, with a few jerks sprinkled in for flavor, there's no helping them.
I haven't even been able to open my [small] order yet and I'm already drooling!
Cheers to you, dondada. And cheers to Dutch as well!
Keep up the good work, mate!
~Democles
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Pictures of the new batch. Beautiful stuff.
http://4eiruntyxxbgfv7o.onion/imgzapr/upload/foto_no_exif-3.jpg
http://f3ew3p7s6lbftqm5.onion/pics/foto_no_exif-4.jpg
Dude that is some NICE looking Mdma! I was contemplating ordering but I think my mind is made up. Just so I'm clear on this even for orders over 50 grams you don't have to Finalize until the package crosses the border of your country correct?
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glad I got my order for 50g in. Always got to be some idiot fucking shit up.
dutch, I know that you don't have to offer us your product at such a great price and want to let you know it is very much appreciated.
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Those pictures are exactly what I've been expecting.
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This is all bullshit we gonna change allot next week,
Thnq to all those people that have fuck it up for other...
Probably people think when the pay more the quality is better..
OK no problem i will raise those price's !
You want big rocks ?
No problem set it in your order
But you need to finalize early and we also give no refund!
You want big rocks so you have to take that risk that it will be not arrive....
Bye all
Dude its only 1 dude bitchin' and your gonna stiff everyone cause of this one guy. Earlier in posts another one of his "friends" said he was a troll; basically a guy being an asshole for no reason.
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If your going to raise prices over one guy that's purposely trying to fuck up your game, make you raise your prices so you'll lose business...then i guess you'll be doing what this guy wants you to do.
Personally i am waiting on 2 orders from you Dutch and have no problems with your shipping methods or reviews on product. I would want my product crushed into small pebbles any day and be safer then get rocks. Thanks.
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haha all the grovelling cockroaches are out
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haha all the grovelling cockroaches are out
Now I see why your karma's so low. Being a tough guy in real life drug deals may get you somewhere, but on here it just puts you on everybody's shit list and scares off good people selling good things. Fuck off.
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haha all the grovelling cockroaches are out
Now I see why your karma's so low. Being a tough guy in real life drug deals may get you somewhere, but on here it just puts you on everybody's shit list and scares off good people selling good things. Fuck off.
hahaha ;)
This little bitch is lashing out over having to pay 25% more for his fix.
Fix up junkie
;D ;D ;D
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haha all the grovelling cockroaches are out
Now I see why your karma's so low. Being a tough guy in real life drug deals may get you somewhere, but on here it just puts you on everybody's shit list and scares off good people selling good things. Fuck off.
Please don't feed the trolls! Shit just clutters up this thread even more...
@Dondala-Thank you for posting these pics, +1 to you!
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Even if dutch raises his pricing i would still buy from him his packaging is really good and the fact that he gives u the tracking is awesome. Honestly he is selling mdma for what it should be sold for good pricing so even we can spread the love here in the U.S without having to charge people top notch pricing.
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Pictures of the new batch. Beautiful stuff.
http://4eiruntyxxbgfv7o.onion/imgzapr/upload/foto_no_exif-3.jpg
http://f3ew3p7s6lbftqm5.onion/pics/foto_no_exif-4.jpg
beautiful stuff Dutch!
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Pictures of the new batch. Beautiful stuff.
http://4eiruntyxxbgfv7o.onion/imgzapr/upload/foto_no_exif-3.jpg
http://f3ew3p7s6lbftqm5.onion/pics/foto_no_exif-4.jpg
Thank you for commenting on the packaging and supplying the pics dondada.
There is no reason anyone should be unhappy with receiving product that looks like that. PLENTY of good sized chunks. I will be very happy when that arrives.
DUTCHAANBOD, YOU ARE A GREAT VENDOR AND YOU CLEARLY HAVE A GREAT PRODUCT. DO NOT LISTEN TO THE STUPID PEOPLE ON HERE. KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WE WILL KEEP BUYING! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
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ohhh as a new buyer to SR i really hope that dutch doesnt change his current policy
i reallllly want to buy a 10g package!
but im having so much trouble aquiring btc -.- fml
god those pictures look gnarly..why the fuck are people complaining??
tards.
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Ignore the whiny cunts. Dutch's stealth is solid, the product is great, and you can't beat his prices. Just be patient while waiting for your package and accept the fact that you're sacrificing speed for an unbeatable price.
Dutch, just ignore the crying bitches in here. You've got loads of customers that are happy with your packaging and product. Don't change up your operation because a couple douches like to whine.
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Funnily enough the only people crying like bitches are the ones that want more product ;D
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People who have received in the past week to USA, was was your approximate wait time? I think with the recent post backlog I'm going to be getting quite a few orders in the next few days that were staggered which wasn't my intention.
Sc0t1and_Y4rdi3 be trollin'. Must be bored as shit.
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Funnily enough the only people crying like bitches are the ones that want more product ;D
Shut up JoeyP---------Vinny0007-------Scotland yardi========its obvious you are all the same people.
Your a troll where ever you go:{
My last comment as fuel for this troll----just wanted to share identities with people----in case you see his bitch ass in other places!!!!!!!!!!
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Never got my pack. Dutch offer a partial refund which i accepted
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Funnily enough the only people crying like bitches are the ones that want more product ;D
Shut up JoeyP---------Vinny0007-------Scotland yardi========its obvious you are all the same people.
Your a troll where ever you go:{
My last comment as fuel for this troll----just wanted to share identities with people----in case you see his bitch ass in other places!!!!!!!!!!
Sure, sure. I'll play your little games with you. I'm Winny, well done Captain Colombo 8) 8) 8) :-*
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Joey...
Dude, please leave this thread. You've reposted the same information on probably every one of the last ten pages. We are not asking you to shut your mouth because we want you to open it again. You have posted your review - thanks. Your concerns are legitimate, but you are all over the board with accusations and emotion that isn't necessary. He may not be the best SR ever had, but he seems to be the best we got right now. And if anyone cares to look, you did call his packaging MORE than pitiful (multiple times), you DID accuse HIM of forgetting to label your package (multiple times). Every one of your posts you back down a little bit more and now we're at "Well, maybe I was intoxicated but it's still not my fault".
Can anyone chime in on the current batch? Is it back to the white crystals? Pics taking forever to load.. Hoping to get a few more packs ordered tonight or tomorrow. edit: Ok pictures looks like what I received last week, yum yum
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TheGoldenEel - The pictures above are more brownish than white crystals but I've seen much more brown from SuperTrips. They look quality and I can't wait for mine to arrive in the next couple of days.
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get your schizophrenic bullshit out of here
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Never got my pack. Dutch offer a partial refund which i accepted
Interesting....
Do you think Dutch even sent it?
How much was your refund? Please share your experience with the people
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anyone have success ordering an ounce or more? wait time to US? Was using eazyjet, looking to switch...dutch vs supertrips?
Thanks guys.
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SuperTrips is having major problems he hasn't pulled out of yet.
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The trolls are probably just a vendor that has lost business and is trying to give dutch a bad name.
Haters gonna hate.
Ill have my package soon and will post a review and pics when I get it.
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Never got my pack. Dutch offer a partial refund which i accepted
Interesting....
Do you think Dutch even sent it?
How much was your refund? Please share your experience with the people
I have no reason to believe he didn't.
I did received more than the 20% his vendor page states, which was generous.
If it does happen to show up ill send him the coin back
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Listing is down for max 2 days we gonna send first all those orders out,
Greats DA
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Listing is down for max 2 days we gonna send first all those orders out,
Greats DA
Wow this is impressive. He could easily leave the listings up and keep selling, but he wants to take care care of his customers and make sure that we get our packages. Thank you DA. You are a true professional!
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Listing is down for max 2 days we gonna send first all those orders out,
Greats DA
Wow this is impressive. He could easily leave the listings up and keep selling, but he wants to take care care of his customers and make sure that we get our packages. Thank you DA. You are a true professional!
Dutch is on his shit! Getting REALLY sick of the fuckers bashing my favorite vendor!!!!
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Anyone know off the top of their head what the 100g MDMA listing was going for? Did he/she require FE?
I went to sneak a peek at the listings but they were already down.
Thanks for the info. ;D
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Anyone know off the top of their head what the 100g MDMA listing was going for? Did he/she require FE?
I went to sneak a peek at the listings but they were already down.
Thanks for the info. ;D
$1,500-ish.
DAMNIT!!! i just got my Coins into my account and he took down the listings! They were up just earlier when i went to put the money in.. :/
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Wow that was close, just made it!!
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Recieved some a few weeks back and just recently tested it. Excellent quality, stealth and price (:
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Glad I got my order in this time, and glad I bought as much as I did.
dutch, anyone as good as you is going to have haters. I'd take it as a complement in a way. Please don't let those fuck-tards screw the rest of us!
peace.
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Anyone know off the top of their head what the 100g MDMA listing was going for? Did he/she require FE?
I went to sneak a peek at the listings but they were already down.
Thanks for the info. ;D
1532.00 = 100grams-----------no fe until package enters Customs, than tracking will be sent to you after you finalize!!
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I just want to say nice job to Dutch for doing the responsible thing and catching up with the orders. I hear great things about him on the forum so I decided to give him a go. (Excellent prices too, how can i not?) Anyways, I believe I just snuck my order in before the posting was taken down. :D Anyone get marked in transit yet that just made it?
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Never got my pack. Dutch offer a partial refund which i accepted
Interesting....
Do you think Dutch even sent it?
How much was your refund? Please share your experience with the people
I have no reason to believe he didn't.
I did received more than the 20% his vendor page states, which was generous.
If it does happen to show up ill send him the coin back
Hmm it wasn't only me huh? That's weird considering how many packages arrived. Meh Oh well dutch seems like a great vendor may just not be for me ,Ill have to order elsewhere =\. Thanks anyway dutch.
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Never got my pack. Dutch offer a partial refund which i accepted
Interesting....
Do you think Dutch even sent it?
How much was your refund? Please share your experience with the people
I have no reason to believe he didn't.
I did received more than the 20% his vendor page states, which was generous.
If it does happen to show up ill send him the coin back
Hmm it wasn't only me huh? That's weird considering how many packages arrived. Meh Oh well dutch seems like a great vendor may just not be for me ,Ill have to order elsewhere =\. Thanks anyway dutch.
This is what happened before his last break and this is what will happen now.
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Never got my pack. Dutch offer a partial refund which i accepted
That sucks man. Was it a big order? Did you have tracking?
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Listing is down for max 2 days we gonna send first all those orders out,
Greats DA
Wow this is impressive. He could easily leave the listings up and keep selling, but he wants to take care care of his customers and make sure that we get our packages. Thank you DA. You are a true professional!
Dutch is on his shit! Getting REALLY sick of the fuckers bashing my favorite vendor!!!!
I'm with you on this. Dutch is an exceptional vendor. Best MDMA I've seen on SR since Dopeboy's stuff.
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Took a long time, have no idea why, 2 bags came without vacuum,altho the stealth was great.Tracking number doesnt even work yet haha. BUT it got here and the crystals look fucking amazing, so all in all a very good buy. My man! (100g EU - a hard country to ship to within the EU)
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Took a long time, have no idea why, 2 bags came without vacuum,altho the stealth was great.Tracking number doesnt even work yet haha. BUT it got here and the crystals look fucking amazing, so all in all a very good buy. My man! (100g EU - a hard country to ship to within the EU)
I bet you a lot (not everyone but a lot) of these people who didn't get their product actually did get it and they are scamming. Happens all the time to buyers. There are also probably a few people who have gotten refunds and their package will arrive in a week or two....patience people patience.
trillarn, how long?
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I'm a first time customer of Dutchaanbod. Ordered 10g of MDMA on Oct 1st. Received it today on the East Coast of Canada. The packaging was absolutely unbelievable, certainly the best I've seen on SR to date. The product looks good, vacuum packed with white and off white crystals. I'm only going to try the product in a couple of weeks. As a customer, I have to rate this vendor 5/5.
Everyone keep safe and roll responsibly.
DrDHead.
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Update: order arrived after 3 weeks to MW USA.
All good.
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Ordered 10/12...still processing...
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Ordered 10/12...still processing...
Be Patient, this isn't ebay or amazon. He has taken his listing off for 2 days to catch up with orders. Which is what a lot of other vendors on here should do!
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Ordered 10/12...still processing...
Be Patient, this isn't ebay or amazon. He has taken his listing off for 2 days to catch up with orders. Which is what a lot of other vendors on here should do!
i know i know. thanks. cant wait to try it
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Can anybody comment from about how long from a pack is marked 'in transit' till you receive your tracking information? I'm not trying to clutter up his inbox, but if it's not given to me then I can't (and won't) FE for him when it leaves ISC
Thanks in advance! Have a good week!
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Can anybody comment from about how long from a pack is marked 'in transit' till you receive your tracking information? I'm not trying to clutter up his inbox, but if it's not given to me then I can't (and won't) FE for him when it leaves ISC
Thanks in advance! Have a good week!
Most packages i've received from Germany to the US take about 20 to 21 days for me. But i've heard about people getting their packages much sooner. I've never been one of those people.
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With Pf and Ses I got every package in 4-7 business days but since late July and other vendors it has taken ~3 weeks.
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Can anyone, that has ordered 50+ gram orders (meaning they have had tracking), comment on how long their packages are taking to leave the ISC to be delivered to the destination address. Is it common, as of late, for it to sit at the ISC for at 8+ days?
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Can anyone, that has ordered 50+ gram orders (meaning they have had tracking), comment on how long their packages are taking to leave the ISC to be delivered to the destination address. Is it common, as of late, for it to sit at the ISC for at 8+ days?
I have much experience with ISC NY and Miami and I would say average is 5-14 days and anything after two weeks in my experience ended up getting a love letter.. also though many times I get my pack and check tracking and it says its still in ISC and usually all packs will be delivered within 5 days at most from leaving ISC.. I live SE and it usually takes two days after leaving!
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Can anyone, that has ordered 50+ gram orders (meaning they have had tracking), comment on how long their packages are taking to leave the ISC to be delivered to the destination address. Is it common, as of late, for it to sit at the ISC for at 8+ days?
I have much experience with ISC NY and Miami and I would say average is 5-14 days and anything after two weeks in my experience ended up getting a love letter.. also though many times I get my pack and check tracking and it says its still in ISC and usually all packs will be delivered within 5 days at most from leaving ISC.. I live SE and it usually takes two days after leaving!
Thanks for the info! Is closer to the 14 day mark, rather than the 5 day mark, somewhat more common lately? It seems that a lot of people are saying that it has been taking 3-4 weeks to receive their orders and I am wondering if the wait time at the ISC is playing a significant role in these 3-4 week delivery times.
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Can anyone, that has ordered 50+ gram orders (meaning they have had tracking), comment on how long their packages are taking to leave the ISC to be delivered to the destination address. Is it common, as of late, for it to sit at the ISC for at 8+ days?
I have a perfectly legal package from Asia that just left ISC today after being there for 3 days.
I haven't had a lot of tracked international packages this past few years but before that I was a few. Like others here have said sometimes the tracking will say the package is sitting at ISC and then the mailman delivers it at your door that day.
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Can anyone, that has ordered 50+ gram orders (meaning they have had tracking), comment on how long their packages are taking to leave the ISC to be delivered to the destination address. Is it common, as of late, for it to sit at the ISC for at 8+ days?
It's not uncommon, so I've read. My last order sat in customs for about 5 days and was delivered just fine.
Honestly I cannot see shipping times improving as we move toward the holiday season, but I agree with MasterS when he said that orders used to take 4-10 days-what the fuck happened?
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I saw something on here that customs had like a 3 day backlog because everything has to go through a radiation screener or something. I think any of us would be concerned about a package sitting at ISC for 14 days but don't give up hope quite yet.
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anyone ever have 50g+ order with tracking that never received? all these people that claim they don't get their orders are all <50g .
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anyone ever have 50g+ order with tracking that never received? all these people that claim they don't get their orders are all <50g .
that's a good point, and I've ordered 50g to ensure I got tracking but a few things:
1) The vast majority of orders are for <50g I'll bet.
2) Unfortunately, when there isn't tracking a few customers will try and scam the vendor. Tracking and signatures freak people out. I think somebody may have said they got tracking without having to sign. I'm not sure if the post offie simply fucked up or if there is a level of international mail that allows for that.
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Just received my order for 10 grams today. 10 days to the NE USA including weekends and a holiday which is pretty awesome in my book. The stealth was amazing and actually made me chuckle a little. Smart guy. This is my first major transaction on here and the first non-domestic so to call this a success is an understatement. Haven't had a chance to try it out yet but weight is spot on and it looks good...few decent sized crystals too. Theres no doubt I'll be buying from Dutch again and I suggest others do too
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Hi all listings are back up..
We have a new policy when a order not arrive you not able to buy again...
This is one of the reasons that we take for some people that are scamming...
Order with 10gr are not arrive and we send the same day 5x100gr package´s with tracking that are safe arrive....
That is almost impossible !
Greats Dutchaanbod
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anyone ever have 50g+ order with tracking that never received? all these people that claim they don't get their orders are all <50g .
that's a good point, and I've ordered 50g to ensure I got tracking but a few things:
1) The vast majority of orders are for <50g I'll bet.
2) Unfortunately, when there isn't tracking a few customers will try and scam the vendor. Tracking and signatures freak people out. I think somebody may have said they got tracking without having to sign. I'm not sure if the post offie simply fucked up or if there is a level of international mail that allows for that.
I know right? I mean, I hear his packaging is the best out there...I really do sure hope so! It's strange, all the 10g orders are received in less than 14 days ..all the 50g+ take at LEAST 14days maybe 28...Sure glad he didn't raise the prices and is just not selling to everyone claiming they aren't receiving.
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anyone ever have 50g+ order with tracking that never received? all these people that claim they don't get their orders are all <50g .
that's a good point, and I've ordered 50g to ensure I got tracking but a few things:
1) The vast majority of orders are for <50g I'll bet.
2) Unfortunately, when there isn't tracking a few customers will try and scam the vendor. Tracking and signatures freak people out. I think somebody may have said they got tracking without having to sign. I'm not sure if the post offie simply fucked up or if there is a level of international mail that allows for that.
I know right? I mean, I hear his packaging is the best out there...I really do sure hope so! It's strange, all the 10g orders are received in less than 14 days ..all the 50g+ take at LEAST 14days maybe 28...Sure glad he didn't raise the prices and is just not selling to everyone claiming they aren't receiving.
As I mentioned before, I am convinced that all these complainers are either scammers or competing vendors. I was a little bit worried...but I did some serious thinking and there is no reason that so many packages would be getting seized. This just does not happen unless people are lying.
Dutch, I've got an order coming and I have 100% confidence that it will arrive and I will be patient. Thank you for being such a great vendor.
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i havnt yet orderd from dutch just yet since im waiting for some cash but while i was looking at his 10g listing some1 has left a review about product packaging an we all know you dont do that shit so this is just a heads up for you dutch if you want to get the person to delete it. regards theman
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I've had them sit at ISC for up to 14 days and even when it made it out and was delivered the tracking still said it was at ISC. Relax your package will come, i wouldn't be worried till its been over 4 weeks in transit.
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edited - not sure how I can address this valid concern. We are not dealing with fucking morons in customs.
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Hi all listings are back up..
We have a new policy when a order not arrive you not able to buy again...
This is one of the reasons that we take for some people that are scamming...
Order with 10gr are not arrive and we send the same day 5x100gr package´s with tracking that are safe arrive....
That is almost impossible !
Greats Dutchaanbod
This is unfortunate to hear, I am currently waiting on a order from you, it has been 25+ days, looking less likely to arrive as the days add up. It's a shame cause I was really looking forward to trying your product, and it looks now I might not be able to order again.
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Same tomorrow will be 30 days, doubt its coming. I love the prices and would love to order again. I bet it would come next time, this time was just some fluke that happened to 3 people now I can think of. It happens dutch give us another shot please.
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users that reveal packaging info need to be fucking banned asap
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+1 I completely agree.. fucking can't believe the morons that would even think to put info about packaging on the feedback >:( >:( Also please delete that post quoted above, yea someone already said it and was a complete idiot but by saying "weight for stealth item" basically says someone mentioned it and we don't need anything related to this info on here!!!
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I did some serious thinking and there is no reason that so many packages would be getting seized. This just does not happen unless people are lying.
100% agree. +1 rainbow
I don't know what to tell you. I believe I have decent stats and am a fairly good albeit fairly new member, but it just never came. I'm on day 37 here. If it does come, i'll be happy to send back the coins to Dutch. As of yet, there has been no signs. I have been getting other package, just not this one for some reason.
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I am currently trying to encrypt my address to you but for some reason, your key will not show up under 'recipients'. Can anyone help?
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I am currently trying to encrypt my address to you but for some reason, your key will not show up under 'recipients'. Can anyone help?
I don't know if this is your issue, but the "name" attached to his key is "aanbod-live.com"
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I can't believe these fucking morons that keep putting packaging details in feedback. I honestly can't believe people made it here and are still that stupid. That puts us all in danger. If anybody reading this did that please remove it. I've already notified DPR.
SR PLEASE DO SOMETHING TO ADDRESS dondada's request!!!
Whoever put that dumb shit in Dutch's profile is just trying to screw him over.
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stuck in an order for 10g.
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Day 30, I've officially given up.
Hard to believe that dutch actually sent it since he gave me a refund before a full 4 weeks, he offered the refund around day 25.When he says that it can take up to 4 weeks in his profile He initiated the refund, i just kept extending.
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Day 30, I've officially given up.
Hard to believe that dutch actually sent it since he gave me a refund before a full 4 weeks, he offered the refund around day 25. He initiated the refund, i just kept extending. When he says that it can take up to 4 weeks in his profile
Where are you based?
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Day 30, I've officially given up.
Hard to believe that dutch actually sent it since he gave me a refund before a full 4 weeks, he offered the refund around day 25. He initiated the refund, i just kept extending. When he says that it can take up to 4 weeks in his profile
Where are you based?
West coast USA
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Day 30, I've officially given up.
Hard to believe that dutch actually sent it since he gave me a refund before a full 4 weeks, he offered the refund around day 25. He initiated the refund, i just kept extending. When he says that it can take up to 4 weeks in his profile
Where are you based?
West coast USA
Ditto. West coast USA too and im at 37. Maybe something up with west coast shipments?
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Day 30, I've officially given up.
Hard to believe that dutch actually sent it since he gave me a refund before a full 4 weeks, he offered the refund around day 25. He initiated the refund, i just kept extending. When he says that it can take up to 4 weeks in his profile
Where are you based?
West coast USA
Ditto. West coast USA too and im at 37. Maybe something up with west coast shipments?
This is very disconcerting. There seems to be WAAAAY to many people not getting their packages. As of a week ago it was a handful of people....but now it's looking like there are about 10 people who have not received.
Unfortunately, I would really like to support Dutch right now....but losing that many packages is VERY VERY suspicious. Something is going on and there are a lot of us stuck in escrow...that's a lot of money.
I don't want to play devils advocate just yet....but this is just not right. If Dutch has been refunding a lot of lost orders he shouldn't be selling....I don't know why he would want to keep selling if he's taking a 50% revenue cut on every "lost" package.
I just hope mine comes....only been 3 days.
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I'm east cost USA so its not the coast thats making a difference, maybe it's dutch?
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Well i've been following this from post 1, finally pull the trigger on a decent amount.
On it's way, i'll let you know how it turns out.
Hopefully the paranoia dies down around here ::)
Thanks for the great offer Dutch! ;)
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-Customers are suspicious that dutch isn't sending their packs
-Dutch is suspicious that customer's aren't really receiving packs
-The guys at customs are laughing their asses off
I believe that dutch is legit. However, how is he to know that I'm legit? He doesn't. That's why I purchased 50g with tracking. Whether or not I receive dutch will know for sure.
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Yeah, it seems like the best thing for buyers to do here, would be to look elsewhere for quantities under 50g's. I know Dutch's pricing is tempting, but sadly there is no tracking on orders under 50g's, so this is where potential scamming can occur (by the vendor OR the buyer). There are plenty of other trusted vendors with very reasonable prices for smaller quantities, here on SR.
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On another note, if tracking says that a delivery was attempted and that the package could be picked up at the PO or scheduled for a redelivery, then there should be no worries there, right? Tracking says that a notice was left, but my associate at the delivery address never found a notice. Is it possible that the mailman may not have left a notice, by accident or something? Just want to be sure that it is cool to go to the PO to pick up the package and the associate wouldn't be walking into a trap. Hoping that someone can provide me some reassurance :)
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I'm east cost USA so its not the coast thats making a difference, maybe it's dutch?
Certainly sounds like a usa thing
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Yeah, it seems like the best thing for buyers to do here, would be to look elsewhere for quantities under 50g's. I know Dutch's pricing is tempting, but sadly there is no tracking on orders under 50g's, so this is where potential scamming can occur (by the vendor OR the buyer). There are plenty of other trusted vendors with very reasonable prices for smaller quantities, here on SR.
You said it! This is where PF fucked up (well, one way)-no tracking so there's not telling if it was shipped (which I'm sure it was, the only selective scammer on here that I'm aware of is AAkoven) and shitty custies trying to get their shit for free.
I like dutch as much as I liked PF and hope he's here to stay, but everyone giving them problems over bullshit is stressing everybody out...How about you stress when you have over 1k invested in a order, then come talk on the fucking forum!
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Can someone explain why this is happening? I thought it was a constant price per 10g pack but
1 * 10g = ฿15.60 per 10g
2 * 10g = ฿15.36 per 10g
3 * 10g = ฿15.16 per 10g
4 * 10g = ฿15.03 per 10g
5 * 10g = ฿14.95 per 10g
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Damn, so i shoulda just bought the 100g pack?
Even though he's an old vendor back on SR again, I figured start small first. :-\
DeadRa7,
Maybe he should drop the 10g listings, and just do 50/100g and above?
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Damn, so i shoulda just bought the 100g pack?
I figured start under 50g (since it has the MUST finalize part) for my first order, then do bulk?! ???
I have the funds just staring at me... really hope a small order was better to start with.
Even though he's an old vendor back on SR again, I figured start small first. :-\
50g also needs to be finalized when it reaches sort facility. Or, did i misunderstand this? I was under the impression 50g or 100g had the same Finalize terms.
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Damn, so i shoulda just bought the 100g pack?
I figured start under 50g (since it has the MUST finalize part) for my first order, then do bulk?! ???
I have the funds just staring at me... really hope a small order was better to start with.
Even though he's an old vendor back on SR again, I figured start small first. :-\
50g also needs to be finalized when it reaches sort facility. Or, did i misunderstand this? I was under the impression 50g or 100g had the same Finalize terms.
Yes, his FE policy applies to all tracked orders (finalize once it has reached the ISC)
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Well Im 6 days into a order larger than 10 but didn't have to FE so i will report back with time to SE US... so far I'm 100% percent from his country and also had a pack shipped from there on the same day by a new vendor!
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How many people have been waiting 14+ days for the bulk shipments?
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How many people have been waiting 14+ days for the bulk shipments?
I waiting 11 days within the eu,, for 100g. But it was really stealthy and well worth the wait. I wouldnt worry. definetly gonna be ordering 200g's next time around
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Never really post unless it is to praise or complain. Used to always grab stuff from Sesampino from Germany and I would usually grab Ozs and they would take about 5 takes to get here from when they were shipped always got here with no problems and the quality and weight was always spot on. Just placed an order with Dutch for 40g s going to the Midwest USA so wish me luck guys.
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Took a long time, have no idea why, 2 bags came without vacuum,altho the stealth was great.Tracking number doesnt even work yet haha. BUT it got here and the crystals look fucking amazing, so all in all a very good buy. My man! (100g EU - a hard country to ship to within the EU)
I bet you a lot (not everyone but a lot) of these people who didn't get their product actually did get it and they are scamming. Happens all the time to buyers. There are also probably a few people who have gotten refunds and their package will arrive in a week or two....patience people patience.
yeah this is probably the case. Took about 11 or 12 days, took 1 day to get marked in transit and 11-12 overall since i placed the buy. Buyers are probably scamming cuz this dudes stealth was the bomb
trillarn, how long?
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Can someone explain why this is happening? I thought it was a constant price per 10g pack but
1 * 10g = ฿15.60 per 10g
2 * 10g = ฿15.36 per 10g
3 * 10g = ฿15.16 per 10g
4 * 10g = ฿15.03 per 10g
5 * 10g = ฿14.95 per 10g
lol, well I guess your assumption was wrong. :) yeah I noticed that about a month back. The price goes down a little and then on top of that you only pay for shipping once of course. I also wanted my pack tracked. For these reasons I purchased 50g.
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mine just got marked shipped finally.
PLEASE tell me he is not a scam... :(
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No way my best SR-Buddy is a scam
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There has been no evidence of scam yet, just fear mongering. No reason to worry yet stay in escrow.
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No way my best SR-Buddy is a scam
Glad to see you are trying to make a return to SR PF
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No way my best SR-Buddy is a scam
PFANDLEIHER!!! Hope everything has been good for you these last couple months!! and yes-dutch is good people-just be patient, my friend! ;D
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PF & Dutch are the men of SR. PF and SES both accidentally sent out fake shit on accident except PF actually manned up and tried to correct it. Glad to see they're both back, maybe one will take over C and the other MDMA :o
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ich frage mich pf ist dutch?!!? hehee jkk :p PF you should come back! and this time have strict FE policies !
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Anybody compare this to the MDMA Symbiosis has? I'm trying to figure out which to buy...might just end up getting both! hahaha
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I'm really sorry everyone, I didn't mean to stir up any negative thoughts about Dutch. There is no evidence to show that Dutch is scammer. I was simply commenting on the oddity of the number of "lost" packages.
I say "lost" because, as I mentioned days ago...there are undoubtedly buyers who are scamming. However, if indeed these are all legitimate unreceived packages....well I'm just sayin that's weird.
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I'm really sorry everyone, I didn't mean to stir up any negative thoughts about Dutch. There is no evidence to show that Dutch is scammer. I was simply commenting on the oddity of the number of "lost" packages.
I say "lost" because, as I mentioned days ago...there are undoubtedly buyers who are scamming. However, if indeed these are all legitimate unreceived packages....well I'm just sayin that's weird.
You know i'd rather give dutch praises and have a legit connect, but i found myself without any of his MDMA and no idea of where the package is. Hell, I'm worried that my name and address is on it and its floating around who knows where. Who knows, it might be lost and turn up sometime down the road(which i will gladly give the money he gave me back), but i'll chalk it up as it'll never show. I even took the chance and ordered when he offered the extra 20%. At this point, not sure if i wanna order 100g and see how it turns out with tracking. But dutch is still a good guy. No hard feelings. Chalk it up as customs got it.
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WATCH OUT!!!
If you're going to purchase anything from this vendor. Do yourself a favor and use tracking.
There is something fishy going on most definitely, probably selective scamming. My two cents.
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WATCH OUT!!!
If you're going to purchase anything from this vendor. Do yourself a favor and use tracking.
There is something fishy going on most definitely, probably selective scamming. My two cents.
This is probably some one who sell no MDMA no-more ...
New account first message fuck up please :)
Our shipping rate is over the 90% we send almost 100 package's out each day....
There is always a risk that package's not come over you don like it then you don need to buy online drugs...
that we are scamming is bullshit !
Greats Dutchaanbod
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WATCH OUT!!!
If you're going to purchase anything from this vendor. Do yourself a favor and use tracking.
There is something fishy going on most definitely, probably selective scamming. My two cents.
This is probably some one who sell no MDMA no-more ...
New account first message fuck up please :)
Our shipping rate is over the 90% we send almost 100 package's out each day....
There is always a risk that package's not come over you don like it then you don need to buy online drugs...
that we are scamming is bullshit !
Greats Dutchaanbod
Sorry, of course you are not scamming! All I am saying is that a lot of orders from you that where sent without tracking didn't arrive and that I highly recommend everybody that wants to do business with you to choose tracking or chances are pretty high that they won't get anything. This should be good for you too.
Good luck to everybody!
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My little pony, erhm, review
i ordered 20g at Monday the 1. Oct, was marked in transit Wed the 3rd, received my package Monday 15. oct (this was to a neighbor country of Germany)
Stealth was excellent, i was very excited to see how the package was, and i actually started laughing as soon as i opened the package, very nice idea. (and yes, there was a return address, and yes the name was printed on the label)
This was my first ever purchase on SR, and i can only say, i'm so pleased about my decision to buy from Dutchaanbod.
The crystals are all white and off-white, no green things like some people have mentioned here on the forums. (another batch i guess)
Around 70% rocks, rest was sand, biggest rock was 0.4g and a lot of 0.2 and 0.3 rocks, i'm very pleased with that, and weight was 20.026g without scraping the bag, (Yey)
It didn't taste as bad as the MDMA i'm used to here, and had a bit of a licorice smell, as some people have said here to, but it looks SOOO good,
I will be trying it out with some friends within the next couple of weeks, will report back, when its tested,
I didn't have to get in contact with Dutch, everything went as it should.
so all in all 5/5.
i will be buying again, and that's for sure.
To the people talking about delivery, yes its slow, as you can see, its almost 2 weeks to a neighbor country, so don't get scared, just wait, Dutch can't do anything to speed it up.
I really hope you guys like my review.
Kind Regards.
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Can someone explain why this is happening? I thought it was a constant price per 10g pack but
1 * 10g = ฿15.60 per 10g
2 * 10g = ฿15.36 per 10g
3 * 10g = ฿15.16 per 10g
4 * 10g = ฿15.03 per 10g
5 * 10g = ฿14.95 per 10g
lol, well I guess your assumption was wrong. :) yeah I noticed that about a month back. The price goes down a little and then on top of that you only pay for shipping once of course. I also wanted my pack tracked. For these reasons I purchased 50g.
i think it might have something to do with how the sr commission is calculated
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Just placed my first order with Dutch! Communication seemed awesome. Always a bit of lag since I'm in the west hemisphere and he's on the east but that's cool. I hope the wait time isn't too long... anyone else know how long Dutch's package might take to Canada?\
Thanks! and Thanks to Dutch too! 5/5 so far, will review product once i recieve it!
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...recieved my 20g order today. My last order from dutch needed 2 days to get here, this one took 2 weeks for a domestic order. Wasn't happy about this long wait, but anyway, it's good stuff and worth the wait. If you have time and belief in dutch, don't hesitate to order :-)
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...recieved my 20g order today. My last order from dutch needed 2 days to get here, this one took 2 weeks for a domestic order. Wasn't happy about this long wait, but anyway, it's good stuff and worth the wait. If you have time and belief in dutch, don't hesitate to order :-)
That's crazy!!! Two days domestic??? Is German post that awful? I thought USPS was bad but damn I get cost to cost in 2 days always!! Hearing shit like this better put people bitching over 20 days in the US to rest!!!
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Just placed my first order with Dutch! Communication seemed awesome. Always a bit of lag since I'm in the west hemisphere and he's on the east but that's cool. I hope the wait time isn't too long... anyone else know how long Dutch's package might take to Canada?\
Thanks! and Thanks to Dutch too! 5/5 so far, will review product once i recieve it!
a minimum of 20 days.
Gelmans MDMA supplier just started selling and he is in canada. Why are you buying from Germany lol
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Well, for anyone who's interested my order from Mr. Dutchaanbod came today, 21 days in transit to the west coast, with a total of 16 business days
I gotta say, I'm glad I didn't make a fool of myself and start yelling scammer after day 10
There was no communication necessary, but I'm sure that it would have been fine had there been a need
Product looks great, 85% rocks/pebbles, and 15% sand. Looks like some crushing was necessary for the stealth. I don't really care, I would hate for stealth to be compromised for a little bit of wow factor. To all the guys bitching about sand, remember that you can't look at your "awesome moonrocks" if customs seizes them. Besides, I would end up having to crush them anyways.
None of the weird green specks that people were talking about, maybe just not in my batch. Also not oily, don't know what all that fuss was about.
Ended up being one point underweight, but then I remembered I was getting 9.9 grams for $200 lol. Still haven't scraped the bag, that'll probably even things out nicely
When my buddy gets back, I'll have him run a reagent test, I would be very surprised if it didn't just end up confirming all the other tests that have been done (passed with flying colors)
Finally, I'll have a trip report in two weeks, pretty sweet festival coming up :)
Packaging was nice and secure, nothing to worry about. Can't say I was surprised though, after reading at least 3 in depth descriptions of the packaging. Dumbasses....
Remember, loose lips sink ships...
-schmuck
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Thank you Shmuck and thank you Dutchaanbod
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Again, how many people that ordered tracking (50g+) have not received their packages? It seems like everyone claiming they don't receive have all been 10g or less without tracking..so there's no way to prove that you never received.
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Again, how many people that ordered tracking (50g+) have not received their packages? It seems like everyone claiming they don't receive have all been 10g or less without tracking..so there's no way to prove that you never received.
I check here and his feedback pretty recently as I am waiting on an order below 50 gram and I have yet to see anyone above 50 with tracking say they didn't receive... I have all faith in Dutch and makes me sick when ppl say scammer and not to mention its a joke with these unpredictable shipping times.. I mean for Jesus sakes people are getting packs in 10 days and thats Domestic lol :o My last packs from DE took forever and I assume these will also but if they come between 2-3 weeks I will be stoked!! ;D
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Again, how many people that ordered tracking (50g+) have not received their packages? It seems like everyone claiming they don't receive have all been 10g or less without tracking..so there's no way to prove that you never received.
I check here and his feedback pretty recently as I am waiting on an order below 50 gram and I have yet to see anyone above 50 with tracking say they didn't receive... I have all faith in Dutch and makes me sick when ppl say scammer and not to mention its a joke with these unpredictable shipping times.. I mean for Jesus sakes people are getting packs in 10 days and thats Domestic lol :o My last packs from DE took forever and I assume these will also but if they come between 2-3 weeks I will be stoked!! ;D
Yes I know..it's so fucking stupid on how anybody on here can fuck up a good vendors rep.That's what started happening to PF...he never required you to FE..then all the scammers took advantage...I actually made my first order with PF in mid July..right in the middle of his whole fiaco..and I got my pack 3 days later! That was un-fucking believable! Hopefully PF can come back and only sell bulk listings...anywho... I've been reading the forums and feedback everyday..and nobody with 50g+ have not received, the approximate wait time has been 14-21 days since being marked in transit..i'm currently on day 15 for my 100g ..I will keep ya'll updated!
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I have ordered from two differnt vendors and can't figure out which package i've received. Its either between dutch or hollymolly. The molly was white clear pretty shards and there was no green specs. If someone could help me out i can finalize for the right vendor.
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No green specks in Dutch's either. The Easter grass dude is a liar and troll. Both the same amount? What I got from Holly is more clear than Dutch's with light yellow and brown tinges. Dutches is more brownish but not as dark as SuperTrips.
*Based on what I've seen and ordered.
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Just placed my third order with dutch - 100g this time.
will stay posted...
First two took 20+ days hoping for the same this time around.
No green specks in Dutch's either. The Easter grass dude is a liar and troll. Both the same amount? What I got from Holly is more clear than Dutch's with light yellow and brown tinges. Dutches is more brownish but not as dark as SuperTrips.
*Based on what I've seen and ordered.
No the green does exist. I had a 10g batch come thru with what looked like green metal flakes. They did not dissolve with the acetone wash I did on a gram to test purity. My 30g batch looked like rock salt from a hardware store. Both were really good product.
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No green specks in Dutch's either. The Easter grass dude is a liar and troll.
there was most definitely 5 specs of green whatever in mine... i actually said it seemed like the easter egg grass type material although it's not, just the closest comparison i could come up with. i will add the were super tiny and all 5 weighed together didn't register .001 g. no complaints at all from me.
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No green specks in Dutch's either. The Easter grass dude is a liar and troll. Both the same amount? What I got from Holly is more clear than Dutch's with light yellow and brown tinges. Dutches is more brownish but not as dark as SuperTrips.
*Based on what I've seen and ordered.
Really.......i did not receive both at once. I am expecting packages from both dutch and hollymolly but since they both come from Germany i'm trying to figure out which vendor i should finalize for. I thought HollyMolly's shit was brown? and yeah both orders were for the same amount.
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What I got from Holly Molly was as I described but yeah I read other people had some that was more brown. PM me because their stealth is very different. I am not sure how else to tell.
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What I got from Holly Molly was as I described but yeah I read other people had some that was more brown. PM me because their stealth is very different. I am not sure how else to tell.
Without saying anything is HM packaging more stealth than Dutch?? Only asking since her price is a lot more so unless its due to incredible stealth I don't see why anyone could stray away from Dutch for bulk MDMA ;)
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Well hers arrived in 1/3 the time for me :P
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Well hers arrived in 1/3 the time for me :P
Ahh yes this I just don't get?? Have a pack from DE from a new vendor with tracking and it literally hit ISC two days after being shipped and PF used to be like a week average?? granted he used a different style but still I don't get why AH and Dutch packs take so long yet they do actually ship them when they mark em in transit??
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i got my order in 2 weeks, literally, to SE U.S. i immediately weighed it out into 10 gram bags, and decided to save one or two for myself. has anybody tested the quality on these? i've sold the shit, and tried it, i just haven't gotten any solid feedback, when i snorted a line it didn't really count at that point. product is pretty, but is it that shit tho? this most recent batch which wasn't oily and didn't have green specs?
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15 days to east coast. Dank as fuck and weighs out. Had a few teeny tiny specs of green, but it doesn't matter, stealthy as fuck. A++
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i got my order in 2 weeks, literally, to SE U.S. i immediately weighed it out into 10 gram bags, and decided to save one or two for myself. has anybody tested the quality on these? i've sold the shit, and tried it, i just haven't gotten any solid feedback, when i snorted a line it didn't really count at that point. product is pretty, but is it that shit tho? this most recent batch which wasn't oily and didn't have green specs?
Thats good to hear since thats also my location :P But... You say you weighed it into 10 gram bags and are saving one or two for yourself so I think its safe to say you ordered at least 50 grams... firstly if you buy that much you should have a test kit but also anyone who buys that amount I hope is experienced with MDMA and you said you've done it so??? How was it, how come you can't judge it man... sounds a little fishy to me? Well hopefully I'll have mine soon and I'll know by looks right away and also the word of people in the forums (since thats the point, right?) but I will reagent test it when I get it for these reasons... ;)
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:-*he is the best it made it!!thank u its on KEY..fast and stealthy.the best.. ;D
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Just received my 100g order from dutch
took 26 days to reach west coast USA from when marked in transit, one of the longest times I've waited for a package. Did some reading on the fourms and a lot of people who ordered from german vendors from 9/12/2012 to 9/22/2012 ish received had longer shipping times. The later ones were 25-31 days in transit... who knows whats up with post but hopefully its returning to normal. also read on clearnet of someone who regularly received LEGAL packages from germany.. most would come in 9-14 days, but every once in awhile one would take 6-8 weeks, again who knows whats happening there.
also, TRACKING NEVER WORKED!!! I only checked after i extended the order deadline.. and i checked a day after it came.. NO UPDATES.. I kind of expected that since USPS can be notoriously bad on updating that stuff lol.
stealth = awesome
weight is on point
I see a couple easter egg grass material specs.. but really i dont care.. ill remove them with tweezers
lastly, dutch is great to work with. :)
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Just received my 100g order from dutch
took 26 days to reach west coast USA from when marked in transit, one of the longest times I've waited for a package. Did some reading on the fourms and a lot of people who ordered from german vendors from 9/12/2012 to 9/22/2012 ish received had longer shipping times. The later ones were 25-31 days in transit... who knows whats up with post but hopefully its returning to normal. also read on clearnet of someone who regularly received LEGAL packages from germany.. most would come in 9-14 days, but every once in awhile one would take 6-8 weeks, again who knows whats happening there.
also, TRACKING NEVER WORKED!!! I only checked after i extended the order deadline.. and i checked a day after it came.. NO UPDATES.. I kind of expected that since USPS can be notoriously bad on updating that stuff lol.
stealth = awesome
weight is on point
I see a couple easter egg grass material specs.. but really i dont care.. ill remove them with tweezers
lastly, dutch is great to work with. :)
It's interesting that your tracking never worked and your package was so delayed-I can only imagine waiting that long on something you had no idea where the fuck it was at must have been shitty! I wonder if it was was because it was stuck in customs for whatever reason, it seems they're very good at doing this! Obviously it was at no fault to dutch, but damn that's almost a month!
Did you try the tracking on the german post site? My last order said it was dispatched to US on the german site, and I didn't even know it worked at all on USPS' website until the day it came but was completely on point every step of the way to me after arriving at ISC and I knew before it even got to my doorstep that it was coming that day :)
Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to get a better understanding of this system as I've been using it quite frequently lately-although I haven't had any major problems, If any do arise I'd like to know what I may be able to expect from it because I'm getting about the same size packages as yourself.
+1 btw, enjoy that $$$ :)
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Good to see everyones orders rolling in, man there was some hate a few days ago.
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took about 10 Days to somewhere in EU
got nice rocks. no powder at all. also the stuff looks really good. not any brownish or greenish stuff in it. just tried about 80mg oral - i don´t use md very regular these days..so i can´t tell how strong it really was but for me it was very good and long lasting high.
for that price you can take more if you need a stronger dose;-) if i think of the price of a pill/capsule i had to pay here about 15-20€ for 150mg.
the one thing i noticed was it doesn´t taste that bitter - i´m used to more ugly bitter mdma taste... not complaining just asking THE EXPERTS - it seems the taste isn´t that importend at all??
what you guys think about?
big up to dutch for his aanbot!
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Hey guys. Crazy shyt on here in the last week. I sure hope u hatin bastards out there don't mess up this good thing we git goin here!
Anyways, my 100g atrived yesterday!!!! I am outta town, but thete will be full.review sunday when I get home. 18 days to midwest. My girl had to sign. Stealth was a+. Oh and I had to fe after 13 days when it hit nyc (nervous!)
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100 gr high grade MDMA 80% + 1 Dutchaanbod(98) in transit 17 days finalize | resolve
Marked in transit within 12 hours. I'd say we are off to a great start.
Based on my previous orders the date it was actually shipped was 1 day after it was marked in transit. So I will begin the count down tomorrow.
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Still waiting on a 50g order. today marks week 3 since marked in transit and day 10 since it said it reached customs.
Hoping.
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Still waiting on a 50g order. today marks week 3 since marked in transit and day 10 since it said it reached customs.
Hoping.
Is it stuck in customs?
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Dutch had gave me a 50% refund on my order in reso center. I received the goods and released payment.
Thanks dutch!
trusted vendor
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Gonna give it a try :)
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Just did an order of 10gs from dutch with the intention of bigger future orders for a ship to Ireland.
Let's hope it comes through :)
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Hi all
I tell it one more time DON FE EALRY order under the 50 gr
I DON GIVE NO REFUND THEN
I am sick of all those scammer each day got 10 message's each day !!
That the claim that the make an order and FE.
I will deletede those message's direct after i read it !
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Received my 10 gram order today, took 2.5 weeks to Canada. This thread really helped with the reassurances because I will admit I had started to worry. Looks really tasty, tons of crystals, weighs out nice. Thank you very much Dutch :)
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Dutch had gave me a 50% refund on my order in reso center. I received the goods and released payment.
Thanks dutch!
trusted vendor
Hey bro,
Saw that you went into resolution first before actually realeasing payments...how many days? I already accepted the refund dutch offered me, but rather have the gear and send refund back. I guess I'm just looking for a little hope. LOL. Already at 39 days.
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Dutch had gave me a 50% refund on my order in reso center. I received the goods and released payment.
Thanks dutch!
trusted vendor
+1000 for being an honest person
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I haven't received from Dutchaanbod but generally 40g of MDMA should fit in a standard mailbox without any issue.
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^^^
aprox where are you located snickerlover?
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OK, so I am FREAKING THE FUCK OUT!! Checked my tracking number from Dutch today, and first it said it arrived in my town at 937am, then at a little after 2pm it said "not deliverable as addressed" WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I have had many successful deliveries at this address...I called the post office and they said that since the package was undeliverable that it was already on the way back to the return address and there was nothing they could do about it....I finalized as soon as the tracking showed that it was at ISC...I have sent a message to Dutch, I know this isnt his fault...but damn...I AM SOOOOO FUCKED!
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Anyone that does not get a customs letter should not even ask for refund, cause you will eventually get it. These things take time, and because your patience is thin, or you want before halloween-----oh well------give this guy a break. His shipping is better than most domestic---US---------so give the postal system time to work. Your package is one of millions finding its hole.
Dutch is geniune and on target--------4weeks travel time---10g---and I had no worries the whole way. I went to resolution cause I had to-------- but extended time, and as long as I had no card from customs I knew on the way.
We love Dutch!!!!!!!
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^ What he said. Upsetting how many people ask for a refund and I'm sure most of them end up getting it.
That's why my 0% refund wont change, until the day I get the 1/1000 seizure... if it's even that high ::) (I'm sure the refund rate is higher though)
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OK, so I am FREAKING THE FUCK OUT!! Checked my tracking number from Dutch today, and first it said it arrived in my town at 937am, then at a little after 2pm it said "not deliverable as addressed" WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I have had many successful deliveries at this address...I called the post office and they said that since the package was undeliverable that it was already on the way back to the return address and there was nothing they could do about it....I finalized as soon as the tracking showed that it was at ISC...I have sent a message to Dutch, I know this isnt his fault...but damn...I AM SOOOOO FUCKED!
^^^^^^^^^^^^ THis is what happened to me....anybody got any advice??? PLEASE HELP!
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Today I picked up a big box that came in from China and needed my signature. It was something legal. I realized that I've gotten many items from Asian the past couple of years, from small packs to big and never once have one of them been opened. There are so many international packages now in our global economy. Made me not worry as much.
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OK, so I am FREAKING THE FUCK OUT!! Checked my tracking number from Dutch today, and first it said it arrived in my town at 937am, then at a little after 2pm it said "not deliverable as addressed" WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I have had many successful deliveries at this address...I called the post office and they said that since the package was undeliverable that it was already on the way back to the return address and there was nothing they could do about it....I finalized as soon as the tracking showed that it was at ISC...I have sent a message to Dutch, I know this isnt his fault...but damn...I AM SOOOOO FUCKED!
^^^^^^^^^^^^ THis is what happened to me....anybody got any advice??? PLEASE HELP!
Well damn, maybe this is what happened to my package and i have no tracking to verify.
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I can't think of anything that would help. I can only say, hope somehow it shows up. Did you use a false name?
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Fuck man thats so shitty, mine never came who the fuck knows what happened. There's too many variables to tell. =[
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Its not gonna show up...I talked to the post office...they said its on the way back to germany....I guess the best I can hope for is that Dutch uses a real return address, or maybe since its registered mail that it is insured...
This sucks soooooo bad! Ive got $4400 tied up in resolution right now too due to SuperTrips' bullshit
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HEy yall..received my 100g order 16days in transit USA! thanks dutch!
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Its not gonna show up...I talked to the post office...they said its on the way back to germany....I guess the best I can hope for is that Dutch uses a real return address, or maybe since its registered mail that it is insured...
This sucks soooooo bad! Ive got $4400 tied up in resolution right now too due to SuperTrips' bullshit
Man, that's fucked up! I feel for ya, this is why I am ALWAYS on my ready when the post comes when I know I'm getting a package that day-I'm friendly with the mailman so I just act like I'm outside doing something else when he comes and then if he doesn't have my package I can say something right there and then rather than it going back to the post and inevitably back to fucking germany...this hasn't been an issue yet, but from your misfortune people have learned from this, and so have you.
Good luck to you
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Got my 20g in 18 days total including weekends and holiday. Strongest cleanest MDMA i've ever had. Fucking immaculate. Reeks of sass. Most is clear/light tan/ a few crysta;s with dark spots on outside. Everyone fucking loves it. Going to a bassnectar show on saturday and plan to make lots of people nights awesome(and make some money).
Thanks dutch, you're the shit!
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Got my 20g in 18 days total including weekends and holiday. Strongest cleanest MDMA i've ever had. Fucking immaculate. Reeks of sass. Most is clear/light tan/ a few crysta;s with dark spots on outside. Everyone fucking loves it. Going to a bassnectar show on saturday and plan to make lots of people nights awesome(and make some money).
Thanks dutch, you're the shit!
I saw Bassnectar when he came through on this MDMA, along with two doses, and HOLY SHIT!
EAT YOUR SHIT BEFORE ZED'S DEAD, YOUR GONNA WANNA BE ROLLING FOR THEM AS WELL!
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OK, so I am FREAKING THE FUCK OUT!! Checked my tracking number from Dutch today, and first it said it arrived in my town at 937am, then at a little after 2pm it said "not deliverable as addressed" WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I have had many successful deliveries at this address...I called the post office and they said that since the package was undeliverable that it was already on the way back to the return address and there was nothing they could do about it....I finalized as soon as the tracking showed that it was at ISC...I have sent a message to Dutch, I know this isnt his fault...but damn...I AM SOOOOO FUCKED!
Either the address on the package was wrong (for whatever reason) or it became obscured or you used a false name and the guy that sorts mail didn't like that.
I sent a letter a a friend in Canada that came back to me because the fucking printer ink on the envelope rubbed off. Crazy shit.
I'll bet that dutch finds a solution for you. He knows you aren't scamming him due to the pack having tracking. I hate having to sign for packs because I'm not home during the day and I have to go up to the post office the next day, but totally worth it so that the vendor and I don't have any misunderstandings.
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OK, so I am FREAKING THE FUCK OUT!! Checked my tracking number from Dutch today, and first it said it arrived in my town at 937am, then at a little after 2pm it said "not deliverable as addressed" WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I have had many successful deliveries at this address...I called the post office and they said that since the package was undeliverable that it was already on the way back to the return address and there was nothing they could do about it....I finalized as soon as the tracking showed that it was at ISC...I have sent a message to Dutch, I know this isnt his fault...but damn...I AM SOOOOO FUCKED!
Either the address on the package was wrong (for whatever reason) or it became obscured or you used a false name and the guy that sorts mail didn't like that.
I sent a letter a a friend in Canada that came back to me because the fucking printer ink on the envelope rubbed off. Crazy shit.
I'll bet that dutch finds a solution for you. He knows you aren't scamming him due to the pack having tracking. I hate having to sign for packs because I'm not home during the day and I have to go up to the post office the next day, but totally worth it so that the vendor and I don't have any misunderstandings.
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Im thniking something on the label must have been obscured...I used a real name. I sure hope he finds a solution...this is my first order with him, and damn it sucks!
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OK, so I am FREAKING THE FUCK OUT!! Checked my tracking number from Dutch today, and first it said it arrived in my town at 937am, then at a little after 2pm it said "not deliverable as addressed" WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I have had many successful deliveries at this address...I called the post office and they said that since the package was undeliverable that it was already on the way back to the return address and there was nothing they could do about it....I finalized as soon as the tracking showed that it was at ISC...I have sent a message to Dutch, I know this isnt his fault...but damn...I AM SOOOOO FUCKED!
Either the address on the package was wrong (for whatever reason) or it became obscured or you used a false name and the guy that sorts mail didn't like that.
I sent a letter a a friend in Canada that came back to me because the fucking printer ink on the envelope rubbed off. Crazy shit.
I'll bet that dutch finds a solution for you. He knows you aren't scamming him due to the pack having tracking. I hate having to sign for packs because I'm not home during the day and I have to go up to the post office the next day, but totally worth it so that the vendor and I don't have any misunderstandings.
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Im thniking something on the label must have been obscured...I used a real name. I sure hope he finds a solution...this is my first order with him, and damn it sucks!
Can anyone comment on dutch's label? I used my real address and name too. But for it to get in your town, im assuming most of it was at least visible?
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I talked to the post office, and they said that all tracking is done by scanning bar codes, which make their way to the destination based on zip codes...so it is possible that nothing on the lable was visible at all, but we do know that the bar code was in tact...what a nightmare!
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this idryfloods thing kinda scares me and i havent even ordered yet
and i dont have enough money to make for tracking.
but i guess as long as the money will be in escrow i dont have an issue with it
besides it being tied up for up too a month. but thats okay as long as i get whats coming :)
just waiting on more btc for now so i can finally place my first order lol
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I talked to the post office, and they said that all tracking is done by scanning bar codes, which make their way to the destination based on zip codes...so it is possible that nothing on the lable was visible at all, but we do know that the bar code was in tact...what a nightmare!
couldve been smeared or something in customs maybe??idk
where are you (i presume in the states somewhere)
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What do you mean comment on the label? His labels were fine on my packages.
Well his packaging seems legit enough that it'll make through customs. Now that this has come up and someone earlier in the thread saying their name was not on the label, I'm just assuming there might be something up with his labeling. Just a thought so Dutch could increase his 90% success to even a higher rate. With me not receiving my package either, I just think something must have been up with the label. Just my thought process though.
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Yes, Im thinking that something must have happened to the label, like it smeared or ripped or something...Im on the east coast. Hopefully he will have some solution that we can both live with. Damn this sucks. First all the BS with SuperTrips, and now this... It doesnt seem like I will ever get my hands on the good Molly again! I must say that I know that this isnt Dutchaanbod's fault, I guess one of those freak things that sometimes happens in transit...Still sucks though!
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Dutch seems like a good enough guy, I'm sure he'll sort it out for you.
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hah yeah..supertrips is still doing his own thing
but my order with him is nothing to cry over. just 10 speakers :\ still been 40 days lol
regardless gonna go balls deep with dutch and hope for the best :)
im sure your situation will get wind with dutch and something will happen to resolve
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Still waiting on a 50g order. today marks week 3 since marked in transit and day 10 since it said it reached customs.
Hoping.
Is it stuck in customs?
The most i know is that it reached customs 10-11 days ago
Realllly hoping for it to come any day now.
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Well, thats sound like that might not be the case then. Not sure what to think now. I know i have my address right because i copy/paste the same one and always double check. I guess we'll never know. ???
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I wonder how many people are using fake names....maybe these are the ones not receiving products?
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I used my real name and legit address.
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I also used my real name and address, and never received.
Im not too worried about it tho, im sure the next one will make it no problem
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Yea, I used my real name and address...
Got a reply from Dutch, and we are working it out...he is a great vendor!
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This might not be the right place to post this but where the hell can an Aussie buy coke without haveing to FE or risk no refund? i made my first SR order with Dutch for coke and now he doesn't sell coke anymore(what a shame). Iv'e made 4 or 5 transactions with 100% stats(got burnt by Juergen because i finalized early so am a bit hesitant now).
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I also used my real name and address, and never received.
Im not too worried about it tho, im sure the next one will make it no problem
Agreed. Will make another purchase soon.
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Can anyone comment on the quality of his mdma? How does it differ from others?
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no more 10 gram listing?!
fml :(
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I just messaged him about the 10 gram listing. For weeks I've been waiting on placing this order. I need 2 10 gram orders and today I'm getting just enough bitcoins to cover that. I'm going to be really upset if I can't place that order. That order is what is supposed to make me the money to buy a 100 gram order.
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I can't figure out the reason for removing just that one and leave up the 5 and 1 gram orders. I feel like a kid that just came down the stairs Christmas morning and before I get to the tree I get sent back up to my room.
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I can't figure out the reason for removing just that one and leave up the 5 and 1 gram orders. I feel like a kid that just came down the stairs Christmas morning and before I get to the tree I get sent back up to my room.
Im gonna assume the listing ran out of quantity, the guy might not be on all day so im sure when he gets on and see it ran out he will relist them,
so either order 4x5g or wait!, :D
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I got a kiss letter from the DEA today, it was dutchs package, because its the only one ive ever sent to my address. Will I be on some type of watch list or something? Think ill be able to order again online? What if another one gets caught will I be fucked? Sorry if this isnt the place but Im sure someone else has got one of these DEA letters. Thanks
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It's back up. I guess I panicked a little because I've been watching it everyday for 2 weeks and on the day I'm ready POOF.
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I got a kiss letter from the DEA today, it was dutchs package, because its the only one ive ever sent to my address. Will I be on some type of watch list or something? Think ill be able to order again online? What if another one gets caught will I be fucked? Sorry if this isnt the place but Im sure someone else has got one of these DEA letters. Thanks
you in USA? how much was seized? i've personally never seen love letters much anymore, but i have seen instances of packages never coming and no letter or anything.
you may be under some kind of watch now, as far as future orders. don't bother, consider the address burned and move on. if you don't heed the advice, at least keep it domestic for your own sake.
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I got a kiss letter from the DEA today, it was dutchs package, because its the only one ive ever sent to my address. Will I be on some type of watch list or something? Think ill be able to order again online? What if another one gets caught will I be fucked? Sorry if this isnt the place but Im sure someone else has got one of these DEA letters. Thanks
Not sure if you want to post it publicly but I'm really curious as to what it said. Can you give us the general message?
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Just received my 100g order from dutch
took 26 days to reach west coast USA from when marked in transit, one of the longest times I've waited for a package. Did some reading on the fourms and a lot of people who ordered from german vendors from 9/12/2012 to 9/22/2012 ish received had longer shipping times. The later ones were 25-31 days in transit... who knows whats up with post but hopefully its returning to normal. also read on clearnet of someone who regularly received LEGAL packages from germany.. most would come in 9-14 days, but every once in awhile one would take 6-8 weeks, again who knows whats happening there.
also, TRACKING NEVER WORKED!!! I only checked after i extended the order deadline.. and i checked a day after it came.. NO UPDATES.. I kind of expected that since USPS can be notoriously bad on updating that stuff lol.
stealth = awesome
weight is on point
I see a couple easter egg grass material specs.. but really i dont care.. ill remove them with tweezers
lastly, dutch is great to work with. :)
It's interesting that your tracking never worked and your package was so delayed-I can only imagine waiting that long on something you had no idea where the fuck it was at must have been shitty! I wonder if it was was because it was stuck in customs for whatever reason, it seems they're very good at doing this! Obviously it was at no fault to dutch, but damn that's almost a month!
Did you try the tracking on the german post site? My last order said it was dispatched to US on the german site, and I didn't even know it worked at all on USPS' website until the day it came but was completely on point every step of the way to me after arriving at ISC and I knew before it even got to my doorstep that it was coming that day :)
Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to get a better understanding of this system as I've been using it quite frequently lately-although I haven't had any major problems, If any do arise I'd like to know what I may be able to expect from it because I'm getting about the same size packages as yourself.
+1 btw, enjoy that $$$ :)
this shit is $$.. amazing prices... amazing shit.. going to put in another 100g order in a day or two haha. waiting was shitty, but i just waited it out, would start to worry after 35 days based on posts ive seen.
Just checked the tracking on the german post site, and didn't show anything either. guess they couldn't scan the label or something since it was kind of on a fold. but it still made it which is good.
also just saw some one got a love letter from sir DEA which is really unfortunate, hope that doesn't happen considering the amounts we're ordering.. might expect a CD then. But after my extensive perusing of fourms this seems extremely unlikely as I haven't seen any hard cases yet where large MDMA orders result in some hardcore action by the pigs... unless those peeps are in the slammer and can't update SR lol. Even then we know what to do to protect out selves 8)
thanks for the +1 man :)
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Yes USA ill describe it briefly
"Your name and/or address has been identified with the purchases of controlled substances online" "The DEA is actively and aggressively target these online illicit websites for prosecution."
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Does anyone who ordered from dutch (especially bulk) during the last week of September have pictures of his product? I'm waiting on a 100g order and have been worrying about the people writing about green specs in the crystals and etc. I saw somebody post a picture a few pages ago, and the product was tan/brown crystals. My main question is, is the product clear or tan crystals?
For me, it makes no difference, but for some reason people are more skeptical when it is clear/white, and jizz their pants when it is tan/brown rocks....
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Yes USA ill describe it briefly
"Your name and/or address has been identified with the purchases of controlled substances online" "The DEA is actively and aggressively target these online illicit websites for prosecution."
Hmmm Im not sure i believe this How the hell did they know u were ordering from a illicit website? I have seen a love letter before and it said nothing like that. Theres no way they could know u got it online it could be from a family member for all they know
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I sent a picture to dutch just to let him know, all good if you dont believe me I get a call from my mom freaking out cus im elsewhere right now. This is real shit man who knows im a little freaked out.
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Well if customs knew that the package came from a website some how then u must be being watched extra hardcore that means they would have had to know ur address from here and flagged it and when they caught the package they somehow already knew it came from a website. Did u use pgp for ur address?
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Ya thats def sketchy because as dondada said i have had a friend get a love letter and another friend and they both said the same thing. They dont talk about anything close to what you have said. How big was your order?
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never been so tense about my 10g order to Northeast USA.
seems like a lot of drama up in here.
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no i didnt, maybe when drnyx got busted he didnt delete peoples addresses? only thing i could think of unless they hacked my computer or something fuck man this is sketchy
*edited by request of poster to remove sensitive information* (there was a pic of the letter) - microRNA
no pic no proof? check it
Well, fuck me. When did you place your order? I haven't gotten one of those letter yet, but i'll be fucken damn if i do. Everything on the letter checks out. Guy is an actual criminal lawyer. I received another order from another vendor yesterday so I'm assuming im still in the clear unless they're watching me. Time to clean house i guess.
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Alright guys I have a theory stay with me here dont panic. Have you ever heard of the farmers market? If you have you'd know it got busted up shut down. Well I've ordered from there before and I figure maybe they had info on there somewhere. I know this because the same friend got one and it has to be the only other conclusion. Phew sorry guys I had my shit in a bunch, I'm a little more calm now. Sorry if I freaked anyone out I didnt mean to blow anyones High.
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o.O first time someone got me paranoid on this forum haha. Our timelines matched up too much >.<
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Shit bro, don't ever fucken do that again. You had me pissing my pants. LOL
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anyone that ordered in Oct and is in the USA received their package yet?
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WE CALL BS ON THE GREEN STUFF.post pics!cuz wht we got is there NOO green anything on it or in it.
there just haters.show us the pics!he has amazing MDMA.its worth ALLL the wait :-*
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WE CALL BS ON THE GREEN STUFF.post pics!cuz wht we got is there NOO green anything on it or in it.
there just haters.show us the pics!he has amazing MDMA.its worth ALLL the wait :-*
Its pretty obvious that some have it some dont, how can you call bullshit?
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Because they never upload proof. It isn't difficult >.> If someone uploaded a picture there is not much to argue.
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Because they never upload proof. It isn't difficult >.> If someone uploaded a picture there is not much to argue.
True.
Just doesnt seem plausible that people would lie about it, whats in it for them to say that their batch was tainted with green speckles, if it wasnt?
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Alright guys I have a theory stay with me here dont panic. Have you ever heard of the farmers market? If you have you'd know it got busted up shut down. Well I've ordered from there before and I figure maybe they had info on there somewhere. I know this because the same friend got one and it has to be the only other conclusion. Phew sorry guys I had my shit in a bunch, I'm a little more calm now. Sorry if I freaked anyone out I didnt mean to blow anyones High.
someone else posted today about receiving the same later. not sure if he was on fm or not.
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Damn that letter had me sketched out...Jesus. I was just remembering about how my order from DrNyx never came, then he said he got arrested two weeks later.
I had green stuff in mine, I think I was one of the first people to mention it...my first posts are on page 1 or 2 on this thread but I think it was the stuff he sold right after the 20% off sale about 6 weeks ago. Not sure if I have any of that batch left but I could check next time I break it out if there's any green shit to take a pic of. I've never given Dutch anything but 5's and great reviews on the forums so don't know why I'd lie about it...just was curious wtf it was and at least 5 others in this thread have gotten the same.
edit: alright got a pic that should show the specks pretty clearly, someone msg me w/instructions on how to *thoroughly* erase all exif info and w/the url of whatever tor picture uploaded I should use. i'm paranoid as fuck about posting pics on here.
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My batch had little green specs as well, didn't take any pictures though and that 10g order was gone in 4 days...
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I got the green specks too. In no way does it effect my satisfaction for my order. Quality of the MDMA was great, weight and stealth on point. The mysterious 'green specks' did not test as anything active on my reagent test and did not weigh any significant weight.
NOTHING TO BE WORRIED ABOUT.
I'm not lying, I'm just sharing my experience.
Matter of fact, I'm placing another order with Dutch now!
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^As am I.
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I got the green specks too. In no way does it effect my satisfaction for my order. Quality of the MDMA was great, weight and stealth on point. The mysterious 'green specks' did not test as anything active on my reagent test and did not weigh any significant weight.
NOTHING TO BE WORRIED ABOUT.
I'm not lying, I'm just sharing my experience.
Matter of fact, I'm placing another order with Dutch now!
:D
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QUICK someone tell me if i should use the abreviation for my state or just the full name
ex Washington or WA/Wa
Florida or FL/Fl
thanks..i want to place this order righ miow!
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QUICK someone tell me if i should use the abreviation for my state or just the full name
ex Washington or WA/Wa
Florida or FL/Fl
thanks..i want to place this order righ miow!
abbreviation, all caps..."USA" under the address exactly as you'd address it here, because once it's in the USA it'll be handled by your regular red-blooded 'Mericans.
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QUICK someone tell me if i should use the abreviation for my state or just the full name
ex Washington or WA/Wa
Florida or FL/Fl
thanks..i want to place this order righ miow!
abbreviation, all caps..."USA" under the address exactly as you'd address it here, because once it's in the USA it'll be handled by your regular red-blooded 'Mericans.
such as..(sorry i just dont want this to fuck up lol)
my real name here----first line
#house number# Streetname Av/Dr/Cd/w.e----second line
City, State abbrv USA,Zip code---third line
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William Peabody
420 MDMA AVE
Romneyville, MA
66666(-6666 if you know your zip extension)
USA
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William Peabody
420 MDMA AVE
Romneyville, MA
66666(-6666 if you know your zip extension)
USA
thankkss you :D <3
first order on the road begins here.
+2 lol
yeah put in my zip extension.
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A curious note, on his profile it states: "50gr + package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility so its already over the border"
Does this mean Dutch gives you the tracking number or does he tell you when it is in the facility?
EDIT: Obviously I didn't read his profile close enough, did not see that you can track them online. ::)
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^yeah and if you read a few of the last pages of this forum you'll see that a lot of times tracking won't register until you've nearly gotten your package, so don't freak out if it doesn't show up until after a week or two or getting the tracking #.
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Haven't made a purchase from Dutch yet, but am considering it in the near future. I just like to know 100% what to expect :)
Does Dutch ever have MDMA postings available for anything between 10g-100g? He must have had a 50g posting for it to say it on his profile, but I do understand profit is in the smaller quantities.
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I was hoping other vendors would lower prices a bit to compete with Dutch but doesn't seem like it's going to happen.
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Haven't made a purchase from Dutch yet, but am considering it in the near future. I just like to know 100% what to expect :)
Does Dutch ever have MDMA postings available for anything between 10g-100g? He must have had a 50g posting for it to say it on his profile, but I do understand profit is in the smaller quantities.
just put my order in for 10g...i think at one time he had a 25g/50g listing
or maybe im crazy :s
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so i haven't consumed myself yet... but i let a friend try it out tonight. he was mildly drunk when i came over to drop off his sample, next thing i know he's popped open the gel cap and is getting ready to snort 125 mg lol. about 8 seconds later i hear a lot of cursing directed my way, no lie 5 minutes later teeth grinding hard. i had no clue snorting it would get a reaction that quickly, i've only snorted half a pill max while redosing. he puked as the come up was kinda rough and intense (plus he was drinking previously) i look forward to giving it a go tomorrow night, still debating if i should drop 125 mdma or 100 mdma + 70 mda to start the night. either way it looks like dutch will be making my night awesome
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There we green flakes in mine. Its not some weird rumor or lie people are making. But the product was excellent. so.
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doesn't seem like many people got their packages this week
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There we green flakes in mine. Its not some weird rumor or lie people are making. But the product was excellent. so.
post pics??so we can see wht green stuff u guys talk about??????cuz ares had NOO GREEN.AT ALL
THANKS
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There we green flakes in mine. Its not some weird rumor or lie people are making. But the product was excellent. so.
post pics??so we can see wht green stuff u guys talk about??????cuz ares had NOO GREEN.AT ALL
THANKS
This was some weeks back. It was just like a flat piece of green speck. Not of the same consistency to the MDMA. It didnt crush. It wasnt rampant throughout my batch but it was present. I just took 2 seconds to pick it out and it was gone.
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Do people use Dutchaanbod's Public key to encrypt their Address's?
I imported his key into my keyring but it doesn't show up on my options of people to encrypt the message with?? IT doesn't have an email address like all the other ones do?
Any help would be much appreciated
Cheers!
-Seshat
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Do people use Dutchaanbod's Public key to encrypt their Address's?
I imported his key into my keyring but it doesn't show up on my options of people to encrypt the message with?? IT doesn't have an email address like all the other ones do?
Any help would be much appreciated
Cheers!
-Seshat
It should work just fine as it has for me since his packages have been getting to me, lol
The email address associated with his public key is aanbod-live.com, just import it into your program and you'll be good...I am pretty good at PGP, but bad at explaining it-for more information please check out the forum thread "PGP Club". There you will find any answers you have about PGP, I advise you to check it out.
Anyways, CONGRATS DA FOR REACHING THE TOP 1% OF VENDORS!!!!!!! YOU'VE EARNED IT, KEEP IT UP BRO!!!!!!!
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Ive made a few orders using Encryption, already went through my noob phase of encryption lol.
But when I put his Public Key into my Program it doesn't want to let me encrypt any messages with it. For example, all the other public keys i have show up when its time to encrypt whatever message except dutchaanbod's, It appears to be on my keyring, but its not their when it comes to actually encrypting a specific message! I don't know why, And thought it might be because his email section of his key was left blank, while all the other keys have emails. I know his name is aanbod-live.com, but its blank under the email section.
Is there something I need to change with it? I tried uploading his key a few times to see if it would work, but it doesn't want to show up as on option when highlighting which persons public key to use!
Once again thanks for any help
I trust that his stuff will show, but I don't want to send an unencrypted message of sensitive info.
Cheers
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Ive made a few orders using Encryption, already went through my noob phase of encryption lol.
But when I put his Public Key into my Program it doesn't want to let me encrypt any messages with it. For example, all the other public keys i have show up when its time to encrypt whatever message except dutchaanbod's, It appears to be on my keyring, but its not their when it comes to actually encrypting a specific message! I don't know why, And thought it might be because his email section of his key was left blank, while all the other keys have emails. I know his name is aanbod-live.com, but its blank under the email section.
Is there something I need to change with it? I tried uploading his key a few times to see if it would work, but it doesn't want to show up as on option when highlighting which persons public key to use!
Once again thanks for any help
I trust that his stuff will show, but I don't want to send an unencrypted message of sensitive info.
Cheers
Fair enough, are you using GPA or Kleopatra?
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Im using GPG on Mac OSX
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Im using GPG on Mac OSX
It's because his key has no sub key, old amsterdam and abzu are the same. You won't be able to encrypt to their keys with mac gpg tools.
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Fuck , Thanks for the Info.
Do you guys think i should send him my unencrypted address anyways and go for it?
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All the good MDMA Vendors have Keys that don't work for me on mac...
Does anybody that uses GPG and mac with some experience know if i encrypt a message with a key that doesn't have a subkey.?
Thanks
Cheers
-Seshat
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*Does anybody know if I can encrypt a message with a public key that doesnt have a subkey?* and how to do this on mac osx
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Has anyone in uk receved from ductch, and if so did it need signing for?
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Thank you very much Dutchaanbod. A+++
Largest shard was 0.684g
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Wow that's beautiful roughly how much did you order, I wanna know if mine will look similar. Those rocks are something man no green specks beautiful!
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Quantity remains private but since we ordered about the same time I'm sure you should get the same beautiful batch. I am overwhelmingly pleased ^_^
Marquis test of Dutch's a tiny crystal crumb darkened it like no tomorrow.
**Clearnet** http://i49.tinypic.com/2ns4yv6.gif
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Ok I know orders from Dutch take easy 20-30 days to the US and that is what I expect and my previous experience with AH were 24 and 30 days but my question is why does it take so long?? I have other vendors who ship out of the same country, same size packs and I am shocked if they ever take more than 10 days?? And I know the packs are shipped on time and I'm not bitching by any means.. just curious why it seems the MDMA takes forever lol but all my packs of equal weight but different drugs are quicker???
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hey i got a question for everyone .....i imported his key (im running mac keychain access) but dont see his name in the encryption option....anyone else have this issue? i asked dutch but he suggested i use privnote which i want to stay away from
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Quantity remains private but since we ordered about the same time I'm sure you should get the same beautiful batch. I am overwhelmingly pleased ^_^
Marquis test of Dutch's a tiny crystal crumb darkened it like no tomorrow.
**Clearnet** http://i49.tinypic.com/2ns4yv6.gif
if you dont mind, when did you order/how long did it take and roughly where are you located...THANKS!
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18 days after being marked into transit. 1 day into my resolution extension to SW USA.
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Alright guys I have a theory stay with me here dont panic. Have you ever heard of the farmers market? If you have you'd know it got busted up shut down. Well I've ordered from there before and I figure maybe they had info on there somewhere. I know this because the same friend got one and it has to be the only other conclusion. Phew sorry guys I had my shit in a bunch, I'm a little more calm now. Sorry if I freaked anyone out I didnt mean to blow anyones High.
I got a kiss letter from the DEA today, it was dutchs package, because its the only one ive ever sent to my address. Will I be on some type of watch list or something? Think ill be able to order again online? What if another one gets caught will I be fucked? Sorry if this isnt the place but Im sure someone else has got one of these DEA letters. Thanks
Did they leave a contact address? I would like to send them a letter letting them know my thoughts on this matter. I certainly can't leave me name since they'll be able to connect me with my user account here, and yes they'll figure out about where I live unless I mail from a distant location (no doubt they are reading this post) but I feel it is the right thing to do.
To the DEA/federal people reading this post: please don't think you're doing society a favor. I realize a job is a job, but maybe you could find a new job or at least try and become an obstacle to the DEA. :)
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ordered: October 20, 2012, 2:14 am UTC
shipped: October 21, 2012, 1:33 pm UTC
stoked as fuck for this :)
i dont expect any stellar shipment times like 7-10 days but people are getting them around
15-20 days around my area..sw usa. so i can hang with that :)
but if it made it before halloween..shiiiiiiit :D
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day 14 tmrw to SE US... not expecting it till like 30 days though honestly.. I don't get why AH and Dutch take so long.. my other packs from DE take like 10 days tops!! Just got one yesterday tracked from DE that took 8 days.. never had a vendor from DE besides Dutch and AH take so long but its weird cause they ship when they say they do??? and its not just chance cause I've done it way more than once and I've also never got that 8 day pack from either of them.. think best between both was like 15-17 days?? any explanation please from anyone?? Don't care like I said I expect 30 days but just sooo curious??
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Dutchaanbod ships from Germany not Denmark.
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Alright guys, here is my full review! 100G order
Package took 1 day to process, 18 days to the doorstep midwest US. Had to FE after 14 days when the tracking whent active in US in NYC. Arrived four days later with a signature required.
Stealth was the best i have seen yet! I have recieved orders from PF and ST in the past. Dutch took it to the next level!
As fat as quality goes, it is top notch! No where near as clean/clear in appearance as ST, and yes there was a weird little green flake or two and some really brown spots, but the smell was spot on!!! The marquis test turned instantly DARK THICK BLACK like used motor oil. lots o smoke. taste and effect were spot on with other previous batches!
I couldnt be happier! will be a customer as long as he keeps it up!
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Dutchaanbod ships from Germany not Denmark.
Really MasterS... I had made respect for you till you "tried" to make me look like an idiot there.... DE is initials for Germany... Look at any tracking number from Germany to US and it will say DE.. got two right now that do and never had one that didn't.. tisk tisk bro but thanks for trying to make me look stupid :P
check out this site..... https://www.dhl.de/en.html..... check out your tracking number too and let me know what it ends in???
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On another note, if tracking says that a delivery was attempted and that the package could be picked up at the PO or scheduled for a redelivery, then there should be no worries there, right? Tracking says that a notice was left, but my associate at the delivery address never found a notice. Is it possible that the mailman may not have left a notice, by accident or something? Just want to be sure that it is cool to go to the PO to pick up the package and the associate wouldn't be walking into a trap. Hoping that someone can provide me some reassurance :)
how did this work out for you mollymarley??
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Dutchaanbod ships from Germany not Denmark.
Really MasterS... I had made respect for you till you "tried" to make me look like an idiot there.... DE is initials for Germany... Look at any tracking number from Germany to US and it will say DE.. got two right now that do and never had one that didn't.. tisk tisk bro but thanks for trying to make me look stupid :P
check out this site..... https://www.dhl.de/en.html..... check out your tracking number too and let me know what it ends in???
Hey, we all make mistakes right? but seems a bit "snarky" in hindsight I suppose. DE as in "Deutschland." Or "Du bist eine Deutschlander?" Alles klar?
Also, can anyone compare and contrast the quality of Dutch's Molly to Ivory's? It's been a while since I've ordered molly. I usually reup in enough quantity to last a good while.
thanks for the advice guys,
G
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btw, just for the sake of trivia, the country code for Denmark is "DK."
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On another note, if tracking says that a delivery was attempted and that the package could be picked up at the PO or scheduled for a redelivery, then there should be no worries there, right? Tracking says that a notice was left, but my associate at the delivery address never found a notice. Is it possible that the mailman may not have left a notice, by accident or something? Just want to be sure that it is cool to go to the PO to pick up the package and the associate wouldn't be walking into a trap. Hoping that someone can provide me some reassurance :)
FYI with DCN, many times possible to see delivered, or delivery attempt when no delivery was tried or will be tried next day, etc. happen a lot on fri for sat delivery too. usually mean was scanned when put into bag or truck for final delivery. DCN not very reliable with real time info. if u see re-delivery 2 times, you should call PO and see what problem is, maybe bad addr. before they try to send back on 3rd time. remember you don't know what pack is....
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TIL: DE Germany and DK is Denmark.
Lost respect for me because you thought I tried to make you look stupid? That doesn't make sense since I was the one that had no idea. I am able to learn things without feeling like there was an attack on my ego.
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TIL: DE Germany and DK is Denmark.
Lost respect for me because you thought I tried to make you look stupid? That doesn't make sense since I was the one that had no idea. I am able to learn things without feeling like there was an attack on my ego.
Na bro my bad .. I was fucked up last night and ranting thats all.. realized it was harsh and wrong! Didn't actually do shit for my respect toward ya ;) just took it as trying to call me out but thats the drugs now I see it man so sorry about that honestly.. but yea I tend to use DE a lot just quicker typing I guess...
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I'm always happy to be corrected ^_^
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I'm always happy to be corrected ^_^
I did rant a lot last night with a far amount of drugs being consumed as well.... but for the most part it was all informative in some way! Someone hit the NEG karma on me though..... :o :-\
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day 14 tmrw to SE US... not expecting it till like 30 days though honestly.. I don't get why AH and Dutch take so long.. my other packs from DE take like 10 days tops!! Just got one yesterday tracked from DE that took 8 days.. never had a vendor from DE besides Dutch and AH take so long but its weird cause they ship when they say they do??? and its not just chance cause I've done it way more than once and I've also never got that 8 day pack from either of them.. think best between both was like 15-17 days?? any explanation please from anyone?? Don't care like I said I expect 30 days but just sooo curious??
it could be that they live on the furthest border from where the letters have to go before sent OS, they are still classed as Germany though.
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what if letter says its delivered but have not recieved notice nor package... do you think tracking is fucked up or that this is a problem?
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what if letter says its delivered but have not recieved notice nor package... do you think tracking is fucked up or that this is a problem?
sounds like a potential headache. Hopefully dutch simply gave you the wrong tracking number and hopefully it just shows up. The tracking information should list the delivery city....does that match your delivery address? Anyway, something you need to work out with dutch I suppose. Can't rule out that tracking is just fucked up though it isn't nearly the quality of UPS/FEDEX/etc.
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someone know when he get a new cocaine batch or he is no longer in the cocaine business?
thanks red :D
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what if letter says its delivered but have not recieved notice nor package... do you think tracking is fucked up or that this is a problem?
Like we say ^^^^ - For DCN (delivery confirmation not = tracking) many times you see delivered early am before even tried or say delivered on Thur night for Fri delivery attempt and maybe problem Fri and not receive until Monday. This happens with DCN a lot. If more then 1 business day or not Fri/Sat problem and says deliver might want to call your delivery PO.
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someone know when he get a new cocaine batch or he is no longer in the cocaine business?
thanks red :D
I personally have no idea what he's gonna be doing with coke, but from reading this thread, It's pretty apparent that he already has a lot on his plate just selling MDMA. Not gonna lie to you, I love coke and I would have loved to tried Dutchaanbod's. Honestly, while he can do whatever he wants but I would prefer that my favorite MDMA vendor stick to just MDMA. Seems like selling coke is becoming a hell of a lot of work nowadays because of scamming on both sides. Fuckers....
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Just got my order from Dutch. 100Gr to NE USA. It took 19 days total to get here from the day it was marked in transit.
OMG I CANT BELIEVE IT CAME VACUUM SEALED IN A "insert exact description of vendor's packaging/stealth techniques" But seriously, packaging and stealth was excellent.
The product is mostly white, tan, and some brown crystals. I haven't tested it yet but looks just as good as anything I have received from PF, Supertrips, and Afterhour.
Communication was excellent. I received the tracking a few days after the order was marked shipped.
Overall, Dutch is killing the game right now! $15.32 per gram for pure MDMA?!?! No other vendor is even coming close!
I wish you lots of success, prosperity, wealth, and a long career here on SR ;D ;D ;D ;D. And most importantly, stay safe my friend!! 8) 8) 8)
Will definitely be ordering again. Thanks Dutch!
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Hi there guys . I had plans to make purchase from dutch but his pgp key is holding me back .. I have similar problem to the user few pages back ... someone said that dutch does not use sub key so my pgp4win will not be able to encrypt with this key ... anyone could give me names of programs that will ? I would highly appreciate it .... or what u guys use for communication with dutch?
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quick q for those who got tracking,,,
does he send you the DCN when ready or should I message him for it?
It's been in transit for 4 days and he hasn't sent it to me.
He will send it to you.
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Do you have to sign for his 10g?
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no.
Any orders under 50g will be shipped without tracking, meaning you don't have to sign for it.
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Hi there guys . I had plans to make purchase from dutch but his pgp key is holding me back .. I have similar problem to the user few pages back ... someone said that dutch does not use sub key so my pgp4win will not be able to encrypt with this key ... anyone could give me names of programs that will ? I would highly appreciate it .... or what u guys use for communication with dutch?
same for me i use mac pgp keychain......
use privnote
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A week to US, Thanks DB!
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Just made my 5tht purchase, 1st with dutch.....lets see how this goes :)
based on reviews and shipping times, very excite :)
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no.
Any orders under 50g will be shipped without tracking, meaning you don't have to sign for it.
Ive received many tracked orders which I didnt have to sign for. I think it comes down to your postman and neighborhood.
I don't plan on signing for my package.
dutch sends 50g+ orders through registered mail and that is definitely supposed to have a in-person signature on delivery. I might have to talk to my mailman though, let him know he's welcome to sign my name.
The post would save money if there was an option to not require an in-person signature but I suppose it is hard to change decades-old standards. There are probably some countries that still don't even include barcodes.
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So whats the deal? Can anyone who's recieved packs (both <50gr and >50gr) on whether or nto they've had to sign?
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read right above you man...
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A week to US, Thanks DB!
curious as to when you ordered and about where you are located??...seems you have one the best ship times here...congrats!
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read right above you man...
I have no idea if those people are speculating or if they actually placed orders. I know Dutch sends tracking info for >50gr but I have no idea if its registered or not as he doesn't specify on his page. I also don't have a confirmation of whether or not all registered mail requires a sig. So can someone who can confirm they've ordered from dutch comment on this?
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read right above you man...
I have no idea if those people are speculating or if they actually placed orders. I know Dutch sends tracking info for >50gr but I have no idea if its registered or not as he doesn't specify on his page. I also don't have a confirmation of whether or not all registered mail requires a sig. So can someone who can confirm they've ordered from dutch comment on this?
50gr+ is sent registered mail
registered mail requires an in-person signature on delivery or pickup. One guy here have a mailman that doesn't make him sign but that's the exception not the rule.
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has anyone from the US east cost ordered? if so how long does it take?
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A week to US, Thanks DB!
curious as to when you ordered and about where you are located??...seems you have one the best ship times here...congrats!
Marked in transit on the 14 to southern US.
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wow thats great to hear
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Any orders under 50g will be shipped without tracking, meaning you don't have to sign for it.
Ive received many tracked orders which I didnt have to sign for. I think it comes down to your postman and neighborhood.
I don't plan on signing for my package.
dutch sends 50g+ orders through registered mail and that is definitely supposed to have a in-person signature on delivery. I might have to talk to my mailman though, let him know he's welcome to sign my name.
The post would save money if there was an option to not require an in-person signature but I suppose it is hard to change decades-old standards. There are probably some countries that still don't even include barcodes.
I dont know which country you're in but in Australia if you leave a signed note on the door saying " To The Courier Driver, If nobody home please leave all deliveries at the front door" or something to that effect they usually leave it. i get a lot of deliveries and use this method often. im pretty sure it works with Auspost too. it was either a courier driver or Auspost who told me about this. my deliveries usually come by courier
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no.
Any orders under 50g will be shipped without tracking, meaning you don't have to sign for it.
Ive received many tracked orders which I didnt have to sign for. I think it comes down to your postman and neighborhood.
I don't plan on signing for my package.
dutch sends 50g+ orders through registered mail and that is definitely supposed to have a in-person signature on delivery. I might have to talk to my mailman though, let him know he's welcome to sign my name.
The post would save money if there was an option to not require an in-person signature but I suppose it is hard to change decades-old standards. There are probably some countries that still don't even include barcodes.
I dont know which country you're in but in Australia if you leave a signed note on the door saying " To The Courier Driver, If nobody home please leave all deliveries at the front door" or something to that effect they usually leave it. i get a lot of deliveries and use this method often. im pretty sure it works with Auspost too. it was either a courier driver or Auspost who told me about this. my deliveries usually come by courier
Does anybody have any comments about whether this works with the USPS or not?
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no.
Any orders under 50g will be shipped without tracking, meaning you don't have to sign for it.
Ive received many tracked orders which I didnt have to sign for. I think it comes down to your postman and neighborhood.
I don't plan on signing for my package.
dutch sends 50g+ orders through registered mail and that is definitely supposed to have a in-person signature on delivery. I might have to talk to my mailman though, let him know he's welcome to sign my name.
The post would save money if there was an option to not require an in-person signature but I suppose it is hard to change decades-old standards. There are probably some countries that still don't even include barcodes.
I dont know which country you're in but in Australia if you leave a signed note on the door saying " To The Courier Driver, If nobody home please leave all deliveries at the front door" or something to that effect they usually leave it. i get a lot of deliveries and use this method often. im pretty sure it works with Auspost too. it was either a courier driver or Auspost who told me about this. my deliveries usually come by courier
Does anybody have any comments about whether this works with the USPS or not?
It doesn't work unless you have t0rk's mailman. It isn't supposed to work but I did try anyway without success. They left the standard delivery notice (PS Form 3849) and they checked the box labeled, "If checked, you or an agent must be present at time of delivery to sign for item."
They really need to add an option for non-registered-but-still-tracked international mail.
I don't mind signing for the packs except that I actually gave a real job and I'm not at home during the day unlike the kid drug dealers on here still living with Mom.
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no.
Any orders under 50g will be shipped without tracking, meaning you don't have to sign for it.
It def works in Australia as long as the driver can take the note with him, he told me that is as good as signing, if you know the delivery company, addressing it to a driver of that company wil surely help. as i said, i have done this on many occasions.
it may be different for registered mail to a specific person.
Ive received many tracked orders which I didnt have to sign for. I think it comes down to your postman and neighborhood.
I don't plan on signing for my package.
dutch sends 50g+ orders through registered mail and that is definitely supposed to have a in-person signature on delivery. I might have to talk to my mailman though, let him know he's welcome to sign my name.
The post would save money if there was an option to not require an in-person signature but I suppose it is hard to change decades-old standards. There are probably some countries that still don't even include barcodes.
I dont know which country you're in but in Australia if you leave a signed note on the door saying " To The Courier Driver, If nobody home please leave all deliveries at the front door" or something to that effect they usually leave it. i get a lot of deliveries and use this method often. im pretty sure it works with Auspost too. it was either a courier driver or Auspost who told me about this. my deliveries usually come by courier
Does anybody have any comments about whether this works with the USPS or not?
It doesn't work unless you have t0rk's mailman. It isn't supposed to work but I did try anyway without success. They left the standard delivery notice (PS Form 3849) and they checked the box labeled, "If checked, you or an agent must be present at time of delivery to sign for item."
They really need to add an option for non-registered-but-still-tracked international mail.
I don't mind signing for the packs except that I actually gave a real job and I'm not at home during the day unlike the kid drug dealers on here still living with Mom.
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Im super bummed right now.. idk what happened. packaged said it was delievered a few daysa go.. i finally call PO they tell me the package was deleivered to my complex office.. my complex office tells me they dont have it??? wth :( this really sucks.. ruins my whole halloween.
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Has anyone had a tracking number not work and the package still delivered? I have an order marked shipped on 10/10/12 and the tracking number still does not work on the USPS site. Anyone in the same boat as me?
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I have only had a 10g pack and a 30g pack come thru so I've never ordered 50+ with Dutch but I've had huge boxes left in my doorway and plenty of DCN envelopes come through with no sig,
I do mind signing and I am kind of sketched out to miss delivery because I don't want it to get sent back.
I honestly would not have ordered (and definitely will not in the future) if I knew it had to be signed for.
A DCN is just a delivery confirmation notice. It doesn't technically include tracking except for the destination, but the USPS often scans it along the way anyway. It is also a USPS specific offering. USPS also offers tracked packages without signatures or without in-person signatures, but registered mail requires the in-person signature. The primary purpose of registered mail is to provide a chain of custody all the way through until delivery to the recipient.
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Has anyone had a tracking number not work and the package still delivered? I have an order marked shipped on 10/10/12 and the tracking number still does not work on the USPS site. Anyone in the same boat as me?
Yes, that happens with international packs from time to time. There's a good chance you'll get a tracking event on that package eventually. Also, you can try the number on the German post website: https://www.deutschepost.de/sendung/simpleQuery.html (if it comes up in German then look for a link for English on the bottom-right part of the webpage).
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im so bummed about my package ughh. :/ i have no idea what happened to it..
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Im super bummed right now.. idk what happened. packaged said it was delievered a few daysa go.. i finally call PO they tell me the package was deleivered to my complex office.. my complex office tells me they dont have it??? wth :( this really sucks.. ruins my whole halloween.
Ask them who's name and signature they got on the delivery.
Also go to the complex (maybe during the time the mailman comes) and tell them that the USPS is sure they delivered a letter/package for you and let them know you expect them to find it.
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i pretty much did this.. and the office told me they dont have anything.. im starting to feel one of them stole it.. it really sucks, was a rather big order... i guess its good i waited to get a half key though that woulda be worse ... but still it sucks bad im hurting lol, i was hoping dutches packaging was good enough to surpass situations like this but so far its not lookin so good :/
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i pretty much did this.. and the office told me they dont have anything.. im starting to feel one of them stole it.. it really sucks, was a rather big order... i guess its good i waited to get a half key though that woulda be worse ... but still it sucks bad im hurting lol, i was hoping dutches packaging was good enough to surpass situations like this but so far its not lookin so good :/
maybe ask the mailman. he might remember who he delivered it to.
man, what's the point in collecting names/signatures on registered mail if the post office can't provide the information. The whole point of registered mail is to prove a chain of custody. I might have to ask my post office this question next time I'm up there.
I'll bet it did get delivered to the complex and they aren't organized enough to keep track of packages they receive. If the mailman says he gave it to them then I'd be pretty pissed at them.
I'm not sure about stealing the package since they had no way of knowing what it was but that certainly isn't impossible.
How is it that the post office knows they delivered it to the complex but they don't know who they delivered it to?
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im sorry, i have no idea what his packaigng even looks like so i shouldnt have said that.. im just really paranoid right now myself and am trying to come to a conclusion on why my package says its delivered, yet there is no sign of it... :/
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i will, keep you guys updated, but its really not looking so good right now and im expecting the worst..
Im mostly tripping if its in LEs hands, do you guys think that is resonable?
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i will, keep you guys updated, but its really not looking so good right now and im expecting the worst..
Im mostly tripping if its in LEs hands, do you guys think that is resonable?
Unless you have a previous drug conviction or you're on parole I think it is extremely unlikely that it is in LE hands.
If the post office is sure that it was delivered to the complex then I would give them hell personally. That's probably stupid but that's what I'd do anyway.
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okay cool. im going to give them hell. those motherfuckers i should kill em
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okay cool. im going to give them hell. those motherfuckers i should kill em
Mate i think theres a couple of things you can do. From what i can understand dutch's packaging is seriously top notch and u have no need to worry. So firstly contact UPSP tomorrow, catch your mailman whatever and ask him what the fuck has happened, if he handed the package over to someone, and whom. And how he contacted that person (who is supposed to be you). If someone has stolen it, they will want to make the contents public (unless LE or jealous co-worker? :P), however if they have opened the package i guess it can be a problem for you to confront the person/retrieve it... Nevertheless, i would go and make a real big deal about it, how could they let some random person sign and give them the package. I hope its just some simple misunderstanding mate, but otherwise i really hope you get it back!
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i will let everyone know how this turns out. i personally do not really have any hope for the situation. if the office in fact does not have the molly im fucked noone is going to return 100 grams..
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i will let everyone know how this turns out. i personally do not really have any hope for the situation. if the office in fact does not have the molly im fucked noone is going to return 100 grams..
I know mate, it seems a little fucked but you need to go put the effort in mate. What if for all you know some dumb motherfucker signed the package, but hasnt figured out theirs molly inside or something. Or he hasnt opened it or something. Ur best bet is to catch that mailman and make him show you who signed him. Tell him the meaning of registered mail, and tell him you ordered with registered to prevent this shit, not to let it happen in the last stage. Fucking shit man. Makes me wonder, quite a few people know i order drugs... Wouldnt be too hard for 1 of them to sign for a package if they see it arriving when im not there 1 day and fuck off real quick... Thank god i know my mailman haha ;) I actually have his number saved on my phone, he thinks ive started an internet bussiness and am getting customers from around the world. Nice guy, lol. ps, sorry for rant. I hope you catch the motherfucker, and make him pay. Remember to be cautious at every stage though... Someone who has your 100g of MD can definately coz u some damage. I really wish you the best of luck mate, sort your scenes out!
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well i will try thanks for the advice..
btw i gave you my first karma point..
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well i will try thanks for the advice..
btw i gave you my first karma point..
Thank you mate, i pray the karma comes back to you soon :)
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well i will try thanks for the advice..
btw i gave you my first karma point..
Dude that sucks....I feel for you man. It definitely sounds like in my opinion one of your shit friends probably signed for your package or picked it up at your apartment office and ran off with it. Don't let others know what you do, since its already illegal anyways. Hope that your package turns up and its just lost somewhere for a second.
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Very few people would recognize the beautifully clear MDMA HCl that we're used to seeing and there's a chance that the MDMA isn't even easy to find in the package.
Anyway, everyone here remember to give your mailman $20 for Christmas. :)
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Hi there guys . I had plans to make purchase from dutch but his pgp key is holding me back .. I have similar problem to the user few pages back ... someone said that dutch does not use sub key so my pgp4win will not be able to encrypt with this key ... anyone could give me names of programs that will ? I would highly appreciate it .... or what u guys use for communication with dutch?
He let me privnote it when I was just starting out and didn't know how to use PGP. You could also try encrypting with igolder.com
Cheers!
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Got mine today took 7 business days from when it was marked in transit. The stealth was good I havent tried it yet, but from the smell alone i know its good quality stuff. I will buy again for sure!
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i highly doubt it was any of my friends.. as only 1 person knew and that is family. im going to go to office a little later and bitch them out fuckerzz.
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2nd large order with Dutch, placed order on the 13th, shipped on the 16th, processed through NY ICS on the 23rd! No problems with Dutch, as usual
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2nd large order with Dutch, placed order on the 13th, shipped on the 16th, processed through NY ICS on the 23rd! No problems with Dutch, as usual
Im on 2 weeks to SE... have had two packs from Germany come after I placed the order with Dutch... Really think I am going to order 50 next time just for the fact of getting tracking!! Signing doesn't bother me and I just hate the feeling of not knowing where it is :-\ at least with tracking you get a heads up, hopefully (knock on wood) if anything has happened but I have no doubt pack is coming and its still super early actually just get jealous always see 7/8 days to US and I fully believe it cause it happens to me but never with Dutch or AH for some reason.. always make it tho and thats all that matters in the long run ;D ;D
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these fast shipping times have me excited as well.
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what if letter says its delivered but have not recieved notice nor package... do you think tracking is fucked up or that this is a problem?
I've had this happen to me where tracking said "attempted delivery/notice left" but there was no notice left. I went to the post office with a print out of the tracking log, They told me that my package was at the post office but it wasn't scheduled to be delivered until the next day and that it most likely said "attempted delivery/notice left" because a post worker did a mistake when they scanned the package.
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Review:
Domestic Order delivery Time: 4/5 -> 7 Businessdays
Packaging: 5/5 the best I've seen so far
mdma quality: 4.5 of 5. I think it is not clean but it is good stuff!! i am happy with this!! Small rocks and powder mixed.
many thanks!! great work!!
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Still waiting on my 2nd order to come from Dutch been 20 days so far. I'm hoping that it will come here in the next couple of days.
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Dutch's listings are down. Hope my order is in transit soon. ;D ;D
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Posting so this shows up in my recent threads.. 10 days since marked shipped..
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Dutch's listings are down. Hope my order is in transit soon. ;D ;D
ditto.
Ordered last friday evening. hope he sends it soon. :)
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Dutch's listings are down. Hope my order is in transit soon. ;D ;D
ditto.
Ordered last friday evening. hope he sends it soon. :)
wow thats ages. mine was in transit after 3-4 days last time. hope its soon
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well i will try thanks for the advice..
btw i gave you my first karma point..
Dude that sucks....I feel for you man. It definitely sounds like in my opinion one of your shit friends probably signed for your package or picked it up at your apartment office and ran off with it. Don't let others know what you do, since its already illegal anyways. Hope that your package turns up and its just lost somewhere for a second.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO SIGN FOR THEIR ORDERS?????
ARE ALL OF DUCTHS PACKAGES REQUIRING SIGNATURE????????
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well i will try thanks for the advice..
btw i gave you my first karma point..
Dude that sucks....I feel for you man. It definitely sounds like in my opinion one of your shit friends probably signed for your package or picked it up at your apartment office and ran off with it. Don't let others know what you do, since its already illegal anyways. Hope that your package turns up and its just lost somewhere for a second.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO SIGN FOR THEIR ORDERS?????
ARE ALL OF DUCTHS PACKAGES REQUIRING SIGNATURE????????
are you retarded..???
read his vendor page and you will learn orders over 50grams may require signature.
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well i will try thanks for the advice..
btw i gave you my first karma point..
Dude that sucks....I feel for you man. It definitely sounds like in my opinion one of your shit friends probably signed for your package or picked it up at your apartment office and ran off with it. Don't let others know what you do, since its already illegal anyways. Hope that your package turns up and its just lost somewhere for a second.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO SIGN FOR THEIR ORDERS?????
ARE ALL OF DUCTHS PACKAGES REQUIRING SIGNATURE????????
are you retarded..???
read his vendor page and you will learn orders over 50grams may require signature.
Exactly, "MAY require signature." That is why I'm asking. You are a colossal moron. I know what is says on his vendor page. But I am asking the BUYERS if they had to sign because a lot of people are talking about signing for packages.
Shut the fuck up and let adults talk.
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rainbow stop being an asshole, but I'll answer your question anyway.
Orders of 50g+ are sent by registered post/mail. Registered mail is supposed to require an in-person signature and 99% of the time it will. Sometimes the mailman or post office don't ask for a signature even though they are supposed to, but don't count on it. Registered mail also comes with tracking, although tracking on international orders isn't the best. Orders less than 50g don't require a signature but they aren't tracked either.
I personally prefer tracked packages even though they require my signature which is inconvenient since I have a day job. With tracking I don't have to worry whether or not the vendor sent my pack, and if my pack doesn't arrive then the vendor won't be wondering if I'm telling the truth.
In the case of a controlled delivery in the US, it isn't signing for the pack that is going to land you in jail. Rather, it is the drugs they find in your home after they come in with a search warrant. Ideally, have your stuff shipped to a clean home. At least with tracking you might get a hint that a controlled delivery is going to happen. Without tracking you're in the dark until the pack shows up.
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Recieved a 10g order today. 8 days total from when marked in transit. Including weekends! Awesome package, spot on with weight. Ill be back for sure. Thanks Dutch!
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just placed my order before the listings went down :D Will update when it arrives here in the great white north of canada.
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Recieved a 10g order today. 8 days total from when marked in transit. Including weekends! Awesome package, spot on with weight. Ill be back for sure. Thanks Dutch!
What country if you don't mind me asking?
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Still waiting on my 2nd order to come from Dutch been 20 days so far. I'm hoping that it will come here in the next couple of days.
Jarek, are you in the US? If you are, can I ask what part?
I'm in Midwest and on my 22nd day since being marked as shipped. Really hope it will be here by Saturday......there's a big Halloween party and if the pack comes, it will make my day. ;)
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Still waiting on my 2nd order to come from Dutch been 20 days so far. I'm hoping that it will come here in the next couple of days.
Jarek, are you in the US? If you are, can I ask what part?
I'm in Midwest and on my 22nd day since being marked as shipped. Really hope it will be here by Saturday......there's a big Halloween party and if the pack comes, it will make my day. ;)
MidSouth. This is actually my 2nd package from Dutch. Both packages were placed on the same day. The first package I received in 13 days. I still have yet to see the 2nd package as it was the bigger of the 2. Most of my packages from Germany have not taken any longer that 20 - 21 days. I am waiting on another package from another German vendor as well that is in the 21 days. So i'm in a similar boat with both vendors. Although, based on reviews and things i've read about shipping times from Germany here recently. Some packages have been arriving from Germany to the US up to 28 days.
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Damn it, I really hope he puts up his listings again. I just spend the biggest part of my last money in btc's to grab some of his molly :'(
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rainbow stop being an asshole, but I'll answer your question anyway.
Orders of 50g+ are sent by registered post/mail. Registered mail is supposed to require an in-person signature and 99% of the time it will. Sometimes the mailman or post office don't ask for a signature even though they are supposed to, but don't count on it. Registered mail also comes with tracking, although tracking on international orders isn't the best. Orders less than 50g don't require a signature but they aren't tracked either.
I personally prefer tracked packages even though they require my signature which is inconvenient since I have a day job. With tracking I don't have to worry whether or not the vendor sent my pack, and if my pack doesn't arrive then the vendor won't be wondering if I'm telling the truth.
In the case of a controlled delivery in the US, it isn't signing for the pack that is going to land you in jail. Rather, it is the drugs they find in your home after they come in with a search warrant. Ideally, have your stuff shipped to a clean home. At least with tracking you might get a hint that a controlled delivery is going to happen. Without tracking you're in the dark until the pack shows up.
First of all, I'm not asking for an individuals opinion...I'm asking for the people who had to sign for a package to "raise their hand." This is because it occurs to me that a lot of people's packages are getting delivered, but because no one is there, they are winding up back at the post office. Now I realize this occurs for 50g+ packages, but there are a lot of people with smaller orders that are not receiving either. I am wondering if maybe with smaller orders are also not around when the post man arrives and their package goes back to the post office. I know it's not likely, but I'm just trying to find out as much as I can.
Second of all, I've had packages tracked international that didn't require a signature.
Third, I'm not worried about going to jail, I know how to use SR and stay anonymous. I'm worried about not receiving my package.
Anything else smart guy?
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Dutch's listings are down. Hope my order is in transit soon. ;D ;D
ditto.
Ordered last friday evening. hope he sends it soon. :)
wow thats ages. mine was in transit after 3-4 days last time. hope its soon
it's in transit now. :)
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Dutch's listings are down. Hope my order is in transit soon. ;D ;D
ditto.
Ordered last friday evening. hope he sends it soon. :)
wow thats ages. mine was in transit after 3-4 days last time. hope its soon
it's in transit now. :)
mine should be in transit soon then
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Placed an order, went to go buy more and seems vendor has run out of stock?
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Placed an order, went to go buy more and seems vendor has run out of stock?
No. You would have found this in the last 1-2 pages of this thread and you can also find this on the vendor's page at the top. He has taken listings down for max 2 days to catch up on orders. He does this every so often. Should be back soon, maybe tomorrow.
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Still waiting on the 2nd part of my order its been 21 days of waiting to the US. I am confident the package is on its way since i've already received 1 of 2.
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rainbow stop being an asshole, but I'll answer your question anyway.
Orders of 50g+ are sent by registered post/mail. Registered mail is supposed to require an in-person signature and 99% of the time it will. Sometimes the mailman or post office don't ask for a signature even though they are supposed to, but don't count on it. Registered mail also comes with tracking, although tracking on international orders isn't the best. Orders less than 50g don't require a signature but they aren't tracked either.
I personally prefer tracked packages even though they require my signature which is inconvenient since I have a day job. With tracking I don't have to worry whether or not the vendor sent my pack, and if my pack doesn't arrive then the vendor won't be wondering if I'm telling the truth.
In the case of a controlled delivery in the US, it isn't signing for the pack that is going to land you in jail. Rather, it is the drugs they find in your home after they come in with a search warrant. Ideally, have your stuff shipped to a clean home. At least with tracking you might get a hint that a controlled delivery is going to happen. Without tracking you're in the dark until the pack shows up.
+1 mnak. Ya got a level head on your shoulders :)
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ordered: October 20, 2012, 2:14 am UTC
shipped: October 21, 2012, 1:33 pm UTC
dont know what times they are in my time..but pretty sure its a day ahead of me
anyways if im one of the lucky ones to get this super shipping 8 days business.
im gonna cry tears of joy :D
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Hi guys
I pm'ed Dutch yesterday cause I had been sitting in 'processing' for a few days and he got back to me last night and said he was working on my order. This morning I check status and it's 'in transit'. :)
You ain't much if you ain't using Dutch.
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Got to me with the quickness.... 7 days after marked in transit to NE US. Weight is on point . Stealth is good. Would do business again thanks DutchaanBod :)
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Still waiting on the 2nd part of my order its been 21 days of waiting to the US. I am confident the package is on its way since i've already received 1 of 2.
keep up us updated please.
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ordered: October 20, 2012, 2:14 am UTC
shipped: October 21, 2012, 1:33 pm UTC
dont know what times they are in my time..but pretty sure its a day ahead of me
anyways if im one of the lucky ones to get this super shipping 8 days business.
im gonna cry tears of joy :D
Probably not since it's getting closer to halloween, you should expect lots of shipping delays. From my experience it takes about 7 days for German Post to reach another country and then from there if its US Customs they can hold a package up to 14 days for processing. I've been waiting now for 21 days and its looking like its going to be a full 28 days to receive this package. This bums me out a little bit because I received the 1 of 2 packages that weren't sent out on the same day in 13 days. It doesn't make sense to me why there is such a variance in package delivery time sent out on the same day and region. Hopefully though my wait is almost over.
I am also waiting on another package from another German vendor that is on 22 days of waiting. This package has tracking on it, so I know that its very well on its way. It must be a delay in German Post or a delay in US Customs that has caused this problems, because I seem to be experiencing similar issues with either vender.
Thanks Dutch btw for awesome communication throughout the whole experience!
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Got a pack from another German Vendor in 9 days.. but still waiting on Dutch but not worried.. if pack doesn't come tomorrow then will I have to go in resolution but 17 days still isn't anything so no worries.. with my luck it comes Saturday and then I don't have to deal with the resolution shit and just release funds and with all this talk if it arrives will be getting tracked packing for sure next time ;)
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hi, I was wondering if anyone has received their package that was marked "in transit" on 10-10-12, I just haven't even seen someone from Europe get their package yet. I don't know I am kind of paranoid that maybe a whole shipment got seized or something.
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Plenty of people have been receiving or you'd see another surge of people freaking out.
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I am wondering the same things. I am waiting for 2 orders to come in from two different vendors, dutch being one of them. So far its been 21 and 22 days for me on the waiting time. My packages should be here any day, one of the packages is tracked even. There has to be some kind of mail delay going on for sure.
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I'm in the same boat.....market in transit on the 2nd of this month....still nothing.... :-\
Can anyone reply on what's the longest they had to wait on their packs for Dutch?
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who knows; although, it seems to be effecting multiple vendors for Germany though.
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I am wondering the same things. I am waiting for 2 orders to come in from two different vendors, dutch being one of them. So far its been 21 and 22 days for me on the waiting time. My packages should be here any day, one of the packages is tracked even. There has to be some kind of mail delay going on for sure.
what does your tracking say? how long has it been for the tracked one?
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I am wondering the same things. I am waiting for 2 orders to come in from two different vendors, dutch being one of them. So far its been 21 and 22 days for me on the waiting time. My packages should be here any day, one of the packages is tracked even. There has to be some kind of mail delay going on for sure.
what does your tracking say? how long has it been for the tracked one?
22 days on the tracked one. Tracking stopped as well after it passed German border. Tracking is pretty much pointless.
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Been two weeks since my 10 g's been marked in transit. Coming to Central USA. I'll keep everyone posted.
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just wondering...for people that have been getting 10 gr orders...
is the package gonna fit in my mailbox? or is it gonna be sitting on my doorstep
for anyone to swipe(not that i plan to let it sit there that long)
mailbox dimensions are typical...maybe 4 inches tall foot wide foot and a half deep
guesstimation measurements lol^
day...4 :D
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Been two weeks since my 10 g's been marked in transit. Coming to Central USA. I'll keep everyone posted.
thanks
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just wondering...for people that have been getting 10 gr orders...
is the package gonna fit in my mailbox? or is it gonna be sitting on my doorstep
for anyone to swipe(not that i plan to let it sit there that long)
mailbox dimensions are typical...maybe 4 inches tall foot wide foot and a half deep
guesstimation measurements lol^
day...4 :D
10g is tiny mate, however he packages it you'll get it through the door.
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its okay to cry on here as we do to but HAVE faith it will get to u guys.we got are order and it took some time but it showed up..trust him he will get ur molly to EVERY ONE
:-*
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Plenty of people have been receiving or you'd see another surge of people freaking out.
....and within hours of you posting this, there are numerous posts about shipping times.
If we took the posts about shipping out of this "product review" thread then the thread would move from 77 pages to maybe 3 pages.
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its okay to cry on here as we do to but HAVE faith it will get to u guys.we got are order and it took some time but it showed up..trust him he will get ur molly to EVERY ONE
:-*
when was it shipped out and what is your country?
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I def had to sign this time. I have had tracked packages like this delivered from ST in the past and the postman left them in my box. The same postman made me sign for dutch's. His packaging was by far the best tho, and there was no problem signing! I will do it again! 18 days to the midweast bty on 100g
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I'm considering purchasing some molly from Dutch, but I'm a little concerned this will turn out to be another ST fiasco with the shipping times. I'm asking for people's opinions on the safety of ordering to Canada right now, and if it's gonna take an extended period of time to get my order.
Thanks for your time,
ASD
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I just had a look at dutchs page and noticed he had no listings up but in his feedback someone says they accidentally FE'ed and hopes he gets his order. How does this happen with no listings up. The feedback was an hour ago. I want some of his M
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I just had a look at dutchs page and noticed he had no listings up but in his feedback someone says they accidentally FE'ed and hopes he gets his order. How does this happen with no listings up. The feedback was an hour ago. I want some of his M
Any order marked as shipped can be finalized. Dutch has been working the past few days on getting all orders shipped.
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I'm considering purchasing some molly from Dutch, but I'm a little concerned this will turn out to be another ST fiasco with the shipping times. I'm asking for people's opinions on the safety of ordering to Canada right now, and if it's gonna take an extended period of time to get my order.
Thanks for your time,
ASD
If you want your order is less than 4 weeks, look elsewhere. Yes dutch's orders sometimes arrive much earlier but he has no control over that and many orders out of germany are taking 3-4 weeks.
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10g order arrived to US West 11 days after marked in transit. Quality looks superb...I don't see any green flecks as others mentioned...I'm assuming that may have been an older batch. Lots of nice chunky pieces with a good amount of powder. Packaging was pretty good...I'd give it an 8/10, considering some of the exceptionally elaborate shipping methods others vendors use. But still, packaging was better than a majority of vendors. Double vac sealed as promised.
I would like to tell Dutchaanbod that I am very sorry for ANY suspicions or concerns I had. You are truly a top notch vendor on SR and I hope that you continue supplying us with your quality product and your fantastic customer service. Thank you Dutchaanbod!!!
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Dude if my order comes through tmrw it will be like it Xmas lol ;) got good amount of Dank smoke and things coming to two drops but Tmrw will be my last day and if not need to hit resolution but still like mentioned.. German post is either super quick or super slow so not best for quick delivery but still got all the faith with the stealth packaging.. just honestly don't like being in the blind so even though tracking is basically pointless I am going to go for that option next time!!! Will Update and by Saturday would be Awesome :) :) Had a tracked pack from Germany that was 9 days so that why I like that method I think?! Also I'm SE across the pond for reference!!
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I'm considering purchasing some molly from Dutch, but I'm a little concerned this will turn out to be another ST fiasco with the shipping times. I'm asking for people's opinions on the safety of ordering to Canada right now, and if it's gonna take an extended period of time to get my order.
Thanks for your time,
ASD
I'm from the mid-west of Canada, and I just purchased my order before the listings went down... I will update for you when I receive.
All though I am very ansy to receive my package from Dutch, I know that the shipping times might take a while, but I think it'll all be worth it in the end. I'm a sucker for quality, and it seems like the quality is here, so I will stick with Dutch for now, and let you/everyone know how it turns out... since there aren't too many of us Canadians on this sight
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I just had a look at dutchs page and noticed he had no listings up but in his feedback someone says they accidentally FE'ed and hopes he gets his order. How does this happen with no listings up. The feedback was an hour ago. I want some of his M
Any order marked as shipped can be finalized. Dutch has been working the past few days on getting all orders shipped.
Good call, i didnt think of that.
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Dude if my order comes through tmrw it will be like it Xmas lol ;) got good amount of Dank smoke and things coming to two drops but Tmrw will be my last day and if not need to hit resolution but still like mentioned.. German post is either super quick or super slow so not best for quick delivery but still got all the faith with the stealth packaging.. just honestly don't like being in the blind so even though tracking is basically pointless I am going to go for that option next time!!! Will Update and by Saturday would be Awesome :) :) Had a tracked pack from Germany that was 9 days so that why I like that method I think?! Also I'm SE across the pond for reference!!
I'm not really one for superstition...but if you stop thinking about your package it will arrive! This week I was expecting an order I put in before I ordered from Dutch (not to mention I had resolved myself on the fact that I just need to wait 20-30 days for my mdma). As soon as I stopped thinking about it, IT ARRIVED! THE COSMIC UNIVERSE HANDLES ALL POST! Haha
But seriously...it's like watching water boil....it seems like it takes forever. Just don't think about it and it will show up when you least expected it.
ON A SIDE NOTE:
I sampled about 150-175mg 2.5 hours and I am rolling REALLY nicely. Top quality stuff. I even took 1mg of Xanax today. I can only imagine how hard I'd be rolling right now if I hadn't taken any Xanax.
Eye wiggles eye eiggels eye wiggles! VERY minimal teeth grinding (I'm a natural grinder anyways and MDMA using get's me grinding like crazy). Feeling lots of love and peace. DUTAANBOD YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!
Listening to Led Zeppelin - Since I've Been Loving You
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day 16 waiting for my 40g mdma sample(Its a sample for me ;) ) from dutch and i am super excited to try out the quality. If it is any where near the quality of the vendors the charge hundreds more and in some cases even close to a thousand more $ for 100g than dutch will be my main man!
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day 16 waiting for my 40g mdma sample(Its a sample for me ;) ) from dutch and i am super excited to try out the quality. If it is any where near the quality of the vendors the charge hundreds more and in some cases even close to a thousand more $ for 100g than dutch will be my main man!
In my humble opinion, I would say the batch I received is better than my any of the other MDMA I've gotten on the Road. VERY licoricey.
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day 16 waiting for my 40g mdma sample(Its a sample for me ;) ) from dutch and i am super excited to try out the quality. If it is any where near the quality of the vendors the charge hundreds more and in some cases even close to a thousand more $ for 100g than dutch will be my main man!
In my humble opinion, I would say the batch I received is better than my any of the other MDMA I've gotten on the Road. VERY licoricey.
I remember reading about 2 distinct batches from Dutch, his last one with few green specks or something, and his new one with clear ice like crystals. My order was shippedon 10th october, does anyone know which one i might recieve? Also i think both batches were great,but i think most people preferred the clear batch, maybe just coz of the looks...
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Got mine a couple days ago. Good quality. Creamish browny crystals with a strong liquorice smell. Did 0.3 last night, nice clean high.
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Listing is back up ...... :)
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Listing is back up ...... :)
Oh noes I gotta hurry!
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Damn, Listings back up and now I am 0,7 BTC short for my 10g Order :-\
Anyone willing to borrow me 0,7btc? Please PM. I will pay back a whole btc.
you got pm. ^^
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its weird how come people's are taking forever and others just a week while they seem to be ordering around the same time.
Ordered the 12th, shipped the 16th, going to check today to see if its arrived only because I know other packs have. Not really expecting it to be there, but got to check for the weekend!
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22 days of waiting on my 2nd package from dutch.
The 1st package was received in 13 days and they both were sent on the same day.
Hope it comes today as I am waiting on another package from Germany from another vendor too.
I guess there are postal delays in my area.
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hi mates :D
how long took a package from dutchaanbod to austria atm ?
it´s possible til next week ?
tia
sweet
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Hey Tork I would just PM Dutch and tell him that.. very possible he missed a number or just made a mistake.. wouldn't be unheard of and I actually had a vendor make this mistake then just sent me the correct one and all was Gravy! Wish you the best tho man.. Just went into resolution on mine asking for 2 more weeks but not worried!
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Can you please update you PGP to a higher encryption? It's very low encryption. Just build a better key with another Computer (or tool) and import it to your current tool.
Your price is f* awesome! I just have to buy your stuff because of the crazy pricing.
Although I'm afraid that you cannot hold price/support/stock level a long time...
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22 days of waiting on my 2nd package from dutch.
The 1st package was received in 13 days and they both were sent on the same day.
Hope it comes today as I am waiting on another package from Germany from another vendor too.
I guess there are postal delays in my area.
Nope, it didn't come today. :( Starting to look really grim on receiving my 2nd package from him as tmw will be 23 days. I still hold out hope as i've seen people get delayed packages before.
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I live in a major city and it took 21 days to get to me. I don't see it as grim I see it as arriving any day now.
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dont forget everyone there is tons of mail that has to be dealt with.every day..so its in the mix..
and WILL make it to u guys.just do some of his molly if u all read have some and wait happily..cuz it will show up
we were in the smae boat it made it took some time but soo worth the wait..good luck every one hope u all get molly soon
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I live in a major city and it took 21 days to get to me. I don't see it as grim I see it as arriving any day now.
agreed. last order took 23 days total and I felt that was fast. If you are not approaching 30 then youre fine
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Quick example of our wonderful mail system.
I have two packages on the way from two different German vendors. They both went through the same German and US international sorting centers.
Package A:
German sorting center: 18th
US sorting center: 25th
Package B:
German sorting center: 20th
US sorting center: 22nd
btw, package A is smaller than package B so that isn't a reason for it taking longer.
There are others that had shipments at the same time and got their package several days ago. Same source. Same sorting centers.
I'm convinced that when there is a backlog it is random which packages get onto the plane. Whichever bin of packages is closer to the postal worker maybe.
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Thanks for the support. I have ordered many packages from Germany before and this was just the longest wait i've encountered. I had been reading of particular long waits from Germany recently even going as far as 45 days (SuperTrips).
I have another package by another vendor also un-accounted for, although, it is tracked the tracking stopped after it exited the German border, which is fine. Most of the tracked pacakges i've had and received the tracking did not work at all. I am used to this as tracking is just extra comfort that something indeed was sent. Both packages should be arriving any day now.
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Just received my 10 grams to a major city in central USA! Stealth was pretty fuckin fantastic, as everyone else has said. I received it on the 15th day since it was marked in transit. Haven't weighed it yet but it looks great! Thanks dutch!
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ya shippings a bitch. Every vendor is pretty much experiencing delays my Supertrips order took 29 days, im on day 26 with cloudsurfer, and just a few days wait into my dutch order.
Definately order way in advance. if you got a rave in feb. order now! lol (post's fault not vendor)
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Got mine.1 day processing, 22 days in transit to west coast. Haven't tried but looks amazing. Got a couple rocks that were a little over a gram.
Stealthy shipping. Thanks Dutch!
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Haven't received my pack today. Order placed on the 29th of Sept and put in transit on the 2nd of Oct. I'm in the Midwest.
Tomorrow is a big Halloween rave but I doubt that it will make here tomorrow.......
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I'm considering purchasing some molly from Dutch, but I'm a little concerned this will turn out to be another ST fiasco with the shipping times. I'm asking for people's opinions on the safety of ordering to Canada right now, and if it's gonna take an extended period of time to get my order.
Thanks for your time,
ASD
I'm from the mid-west of Canada, and I just purchased my order before the listings went down... I will update for you when I receive.
All though I am very ansy to receive my package from Dutch, I know that the shipping times might take a while, but I think it'll all be worth it in the end. I'm a sucker for quality, and it seems like the quality is here, so I will stick with Dutch for now, and let you/everyone know how it turns out... since there aren't too many of us Canadians on this sight
I am from a major city, also in mid-west Canada. Hadn't bothered to post up yet because I hadn't seen much mention of Canada until today.
I am currently 10 days after marked In-Transit, order placed 14 days ago. I was hoping it would show up today but no such luck, oh well! I will update when it arrives to give you guys a better idea of how long it is taking right now.
edit for post below: That was the other reason I didn't post up before hah. 77 pages of wondering about shipping and 3 pages of reviews if that. But I was bored...
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This review thread is so pointless now!!
I am not being rude to anyone....as please post on.....but if you ordered-----you will get it------if you ordered---you will like it-----for his prices-----you can try it rather than ask someone else for their opinion on wether its as good as another vendor.
His prices are a drop in the bucket for what you get. Grams for $16. WTF
When does it end---------------Are there anymore fucking Sassafras trees left in Asia?
Dutch your the shit------I now read your thread just for laughs-----"when is it going to get here"----LOL no worries---one day you will be there too.
Have great weekend molly:}
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I'm considering purchasing some molly from Dutch, but I'm a little concerned this will turn out to be another ST fiasco with the shipping times. I'm asking for people's opinions on the safety of ordering to Canada right now, and if it's gonna take an extended period of time to get my order.
Thanks for your time,
ASD
If you want your order is less than 4 weeks, look elsewhere. Yes dutch's orders sometimes arrive much earlier but he has no control over that and many orders out of germany are taking 3-4 weeks.
I'm a lover for quality, there's always a compromise for it, and if it's a high quality product for a price like this, pardon my french but, fuckin right I'm gonna be getting some. I just want to make sure it shows up before I order :)
I also didn't mean to add to the foolishness, I simply wanted a second opinion on shipping times to Canada as I haven't spotted many recent shipments to my country.
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I got my package today, 14-17 days to the rocky mountain region USA, very nice looking ivory pebbles and some sand
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excited to see my order of 10g go into transit after couple days. guessing they make a couple trips a week to DE to ship. but am patient generally and confident judging from the successful shipments posted here. appears to be average two weeks or so to u.s.
Can anyone compare quality to other top vendors? Esp if you have experience with Ivory's which I enjoyed very much.
thanks,
plur, G
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Recieved a 10g order today. 8 days total from when marked in transit. Including weekends! Awesome package, spot on with weight. Ill be back for sure. Thanks Dutch!
What country if you don't mind me asking?
USA
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Hi, can somebody tell me how quality Duch MDMA is? Is it better, than other sellers offers?
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Hi, can somebody tell me how quality Duch MDMA is? Is it better, than other sellers offers?
Sorry: You ask for better quality than other sellers, but asking for the lowest price MDMA you can find on SR at the moment.
His quality seems good/okay as you can read everywhere. Especially for this price. So you want to hear that his MDMA is the best you can find AND the cheapest.
Think about that.
PS: Nothing against his quality. I ordered just some minutes ago and want to try this price too :)
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I posted this the other day in the general MDMA thread. I thought since a lot of people are still on edge, I'd post it here as well.
To all the people worried about Dutchaanbod and shipping times:
I'm not really one for superstition...but if you stop thinking about your package it will arrive! I was really concerned about not receiving my package, like many of you. But as soon as I stopped thinking about it, IT ARRIVED! THE COSMIC UNIVERSE HANDLES ALL POST! Haha
But seriously...it's like watching water boil....it seems like it takes forever. Just don't think about it and it will show up when you least expect it.
ON A SIDE NOTE:
I sampled about 150-175mg 2.5 hours and I am rolling REALLY nicely. Top quality stuff. I even took 1mg of Xanax today. I can only imagine how hard I'd be rolling right now if I hadn't taken any Xanax.
Eye wiggles eye eiggels eye wiggles! VERY minimal teeth grinding (I'm a natural grinder anyways and MDMA using get's me grinding like crazy). Feeling lots of love and peace.
DUTAANBOD YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!
Listening to Led Zeppelin - Since I've Been Loving You
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Can someone shoot me $1.50 USD on SR? I'm short that much and I'd like to place an order with dutch. Same username on SR as here. red23
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My package came in 17 days to NW USA. looks beautiful, nice ivory crystals. I wont say much more other than this product is superior to a lot of vendors product who charge way more and dont even wash the mdma after synthesis. It is clearly made with safrole also which is a huge plus! none of that shitty PMK synthesis crap.
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What's this guys stealth like?
And mdma quality?
Anyone bought from this guy in Australia?
Looking to make an order to aus.
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The packages are pretty well packed.
The delivery time was ok for my country, took a week.
The quality of MDMA't was unfortunately not as good as I had hoped, it was the worst mdmat I've tested of all time, it worked, but not as good.
At 200mg, I usually roll hard! tend not to use mobile etc, now I was just calm and relaxed in your body,
BUT, you get what you pay for, it's really cheap!
EDIT
It works fine on all the others, is just me, it works pretty poorly, vettefan what it is, no other drugs and have my habits as usual when I should take mdma.
But now I know it is not a bad mdma he has
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What's this guys stealth like?
And mdma quality?
Anyone bought from this guy in Australia?
Looking to make an order to aus.
Stealth is top notch, very well hidden and not detectable without a decent amount of inspection
Received my last bulk order in 7 days total to upper Midwest, very pleased and ready to place my next order very soon, second flawless transaction!
This is a LEGIT vendor, fuck the mail!!
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What did you think of the quality Ra7?
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The packages are pretty well packed.
The delivery time was ok for my country, took a week.
The quality of MDMA't was unfortunately not as good as I had hoped, it was the worst mdmat I've tested of all time, it worked, but not as good.
At 200mg, I usually roll hard! tend not to use mobile etc, now I was just calm and relaxed in your body,
BUT, you get what you pay for, it's really cheap!
UR FOOL..and just use to fake mdma and cant tell when u have dank..just send it us
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The packages are pretty well packed.
The delivery time was ok for my country, took a week.
The quality of MDMA't was unfortunately not as good as I had hoped, it was the worst mdmat I've tested of all time, it worked, but not as good.
At 200mg, I usually roll hard! tend not to use mobile etc, now I was just calm and relaxed in your body,
BUT, you get what you pay for, it's really cheap!
UR FOOL..and just use to fake mdma and cant tell when u have dank..just send it us
I said what I thought about mdmat, and that's supposed to do this?
Had I not tried mdma from other sources, so I had not been able to compare.
But now I have tested from other sources, and even at 150mg of most other so I roll pretty good, I do unfortunately not DUTCHAANBOD mdma.
I did not say it did not work, I said that it worked poorly on me.
A friend comes over a bit later and test with, get to see what he thinks about 150mg, can be so that I got bad effect just yesterday, we'll see.
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narki see my review in signature if you want to know if others feel the same.
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No offense to anyone, but it is impossible to judge that MDMA #1 is x% pure and MDMA #2 is y% pure based on a handful of subjective experiences, and especially with MDMA.
Somebody on here (was it you MasterS) did an acetone wash on dutch's MDMA and got 90% nice white powder back. Considering some of the MDMA was certainly lost in the process, that's very impressive.
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It wasn't me because I don't post washes. I am glad it is done though.
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My friend who introduced me to the Road had just gotten a package from Dutch and I got a g off him. I initially took a small dose of 120mg, I usually start off with 200mg, but I didn't want to roll to hard or be up all night. It took an hour to kick in and it hit me hard, then plateaued off then 2 hours in I took another 50mg, and I started jaw clenching after that amount. But I was loving it, 4 hours in I took 100mg more and gave my girl 150mg, she was rolling BALLS 8) the extra dose didn't make me roll much harder but it definitely made it last longer, the total roll lasted a good 8 hours and I fell great this morning! I can't account for the packaging, but I know he got it here successfully in under 15 days.
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Has anyone from the UK got anything from Dutch? How long did it take?
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Has anyone from the UK got anything from Dutch? How long did it take?
Yeah, got some. I ordered the wednesday, it was marked in transit the following sunday and arrived 7 working days after that. Nice quality the smell makes me wretch.
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about 30 days here, but given my country normally takes 7-10 days longer than the USA, hoping anyday now
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TMW will have been 25 days for me of waiting to receive in the US.
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I got some ivory crystal chunks from Dutch and was wondering if swallowing say a 150-180 mg chunk whole has the same effect as crushing it
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I got some ivory crystal chunks from Dutch and was wondering if swallowing say a 150-180 mg chunk whole has the same effect as crushing it
I would imagine the only difference could possibly be a quicker onset if you crushed it up before ingestion.
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I got some ivory crystal chunks from Dutch and was wondering if swallowing say a 150-180 mg chunk whole has the same effect as crushing it
I would imagine the only difference could possibly be a quicker onset if you crushed it up before ingestion.
Dude, that stuff dissolves so fast, it doesn't even matter. Personally I like to put mdma under my tongue until it dissolves (crystals or powder) and then swallow it,
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"shipped: October 25, 2012, 6:38 am UTC"
domestic shipping, still waiting. maybe it arrives today.
some1 from germany who ordered in the same space of time and already got his package?
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Has anyone else been waiting a long time for tracking numbers? My order was marked in transit back on Oct 19 and still no tracking number from Dutch...is this normal?
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Has anyone else been waiting a long time for tracking numbers? My order was marked in transit back on Oct 19 and still no tracking number from Dutch...is this normal?
Did you order 50g+? Need to order at least 50g to get a tracked package.
If you did order 50g+ then I personally think it is about time to send him a short note.
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Has anyone else been waiting a long time for tracking numbers? My order was marked in transit back on Oct 19 and still no tracking number from Dutch...is this normal?
dude hooked you up with a reship after whatever postal debacle... don't bust balls lol. he already seems like a stand up vendor for whatever went on in your situation, i doubt he'll have any issue furnishing you that tracking #
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I had a package come in from Dutch took 26/25 days to the US. Have yet to sample or do a weight check on it (since some orders like 20g came in only at 10g) but from appearance it looks right. The product looks the same as the last time i ordered. Definitely happy, thanks dutch!
This is my 2nd package from dutch the 1st came in 13 days. There seems to be a bit of a mail delay going on.
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100 g came in to Western US Saturday.
Shipped on the 9th. ISC New York on the 16th.
First order with Duch, I used to get if from PF or ST. This looks diffrent, I hope it's as good.
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Has anyone else been waiting a long time for tracking numbers? My order was marked in transit back on Oct 19 and still no tracking number from Dutch...is this normal?
dude hooked you up with a reship after whatever postal debacle... don't bust balls lol. he already seems like a stand up vendor for whatever went on in your situation, i doubt he'll have any issue furnishing you that tracking #
This is for another order...not the reship...
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well my bad then, the dates looked liked they lined up... sorry for ASSuming :-[ i hope things work out for you
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I've looked over the past few pages but not all 70 by any means. Can someone tell me if you have to sign for this in the US? What about for packages over 50gr? I have signed before with AH but don't like to for obvious reasons.
Thanks!
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Took 26 days total, but finally got here (just in time to avoid that nasty hurricane too!)
Honestly I think its luck of the draw more than anything. I had a package from the same country take only 10 days total when ordered from only a few days before.
Be confident and patient! It will come.
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I've looked over the past few pages but not all 70 by any means. Can someone tell me if you have to sign for this in the US? What about for packages over 50gr? I have signed before with AH but don't like to for obvious reasons.
Thanks!
It would be awesome if a mod could move all of the "my package isn't here" posts to a different thread, but that would be a ton of work.
Under 50g is sent regular mail. No signature, but no tracking either so if you don't receive it then the vendor is going to be skeptical, even if you're skeptical of the vendor.
50g and above is sent registered mail. Package is tracked and signature is required.
The signature is a pain in the ass for me but I wanted my package tracked so I ordered 50g.
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First order from Dutch so went with the 10g. Packaging was good enough to use again for overseas orders. Not the best stealth I've seen but good enough to instill confidence for the smaller orders. 13 days to Texas including the weekends. Shipped the day after ordered.
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things went smooth a little longer than expected but he auto extended date for me (+10 days)
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I am getting ready to place a large order with dutch as I have been planning on it for awhile. But I read a few recent posts with one guy saying it wasn't very strong for him, then others saying don't complain it's cheap, while others say quality is awesome.
If it is in fact 80%+ purity, than enough said, but it would seem to me that there should be a consistent conclusion ,even with a slight marginal difference for diff people, on quality. So for those who have recently received MDMA orders from dutch, what is the quality like or what are customers you resell to telling you? His prices are awesome, but I want to make sure the quality is still very high, as this is a primary selling point.
Not by any means complaining, or anything like that. I just want more info on level of quality of recent orders. I would also like to know how it compares to AfterHours recent MDMA if anyone has had both recently.
Thanks in advance!
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Its the same quality i have come to expect from ordering from PF, supertrips, and Afterhour. It is as good as it gets!
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Some recent quality reports would be great.
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^^^^^
I had some last week. Nice clean MDMA. Creamy tan kind of colour. Strong smell of liquorice. Good clean high. Everyone who had some rated it.
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Have any Aussies successfully received an order from Dutch? Pm me if need be.
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Have any Aussies successfully received an order from Dutch? Pm me if need be.
I received 2.5 of his coke and it was the best i'd had in 20 years, was very clean and not jittery, not speedy and you could sleep on it.
i took 24 days including w\e, if your waiting on delivery don't stress, it will come after 23 day or so
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just placed my first order with dutch,im rather excited :D
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I wonder if the hurricane will affect (effect?) Packages going through
Isc NY...I'm gonna hold off a bit to put in my next order till sandy blows over, for all we know the place could be flooded
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I wonder if the hurricane will affect (effect?) Packages going through
Isc NY...I'm gonna hold off a bit to put in my next order till sandy blows over, for all we know the place could be flooded
Seems to me like a perfect time to order. The storm doesn't decrease how much mail they need to process, so logically even less mail will get examined by customs. There is going to be some time between when you order and when the package arrives in NYC anyway.
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2 weeks in transit and the tracking just says "processed through sort facility in Germany."
Nothing about ISC yet which is bothering me a bit.
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TMW will have been 25 days for me of waiting to receive in the US.
how much you order lol over 9000?
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28 days since marked in transit.....and still nothing.....
Anyone else had to wait this long (or longer)?
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About to place an order.
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28 days since marked in transit.....and still nothing.....
Anyone else had to wait this long (or longer)?
what country you from?
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It took me 25 days for the package to reach me and i'm in the US if that helps anyone.
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28 days since marked in transit.....and still nothing.....
Anyone else had to wait this long (or longer)?
what country you from?
Midwest, USA.
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28 days since marked in transit.....and still nothing.....
Anyone else had to wait this long (or longer)?
what country you from?
Midwest, USA.
50 grams marked in transit on the 4th, processed through the ISC NY on the 13th, still waiting. 26 days including weekends from being marked in transit. I know it will show up any day now. Just hope it is tomorrow. Just in time for Halloween! Give my friends some treats! Hope everyone get's their Mandy! :)
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Your package will be there soon. I got my 1st package from Dutch in 13 days and the 2nd came in 26 days. So, you should be receiving your order sometime this week. It seems there is a lot of mail delays from Germany lately and in some cases i've heard of people having delays up to 45 days.
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I've been in processing still for a few days but I know dutch is busy with prices this low. I'm excited to eat this stuff and work out some problems i've been having within and with someone special. That ability to let go and connect so strongly with others is outta this world I love it ahaha.
I'll be back with a review once I get mine :)
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I'm guessing a lot of us have packages that are in Queens, NYC right now (New York ISC). I doubt any packages left there during the storm, and even now I wonder if they have power.
Update: One of two packages coming in from Germany (this one from dutch) just arrived at my local post office. The timing is odd to me since NYC has been offline the past few days.
Another package from Germany from a different German seller but routed through the same German sorting center at an earlier date still lists NY ISC as the last scan.
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So day 28 of waiting on a 10 g order just started. Dutch refunded me around 50%. So that's cool. I also have another outstanding 10g order with him.
At this point I'm just spooked- no customs letter, but also I've never had a package take this long. I'm seeing 26 day deliveries on his reviews... How thick should my tinfoil hat be?
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7 days domestic shipping. starting to worry :/
some people here say 7 days to US why the fuck does it need 7 days or even more within germany?
*sigh*
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I also put up a domestic order. I will update when it arrives. There was another post from a german fellow a few days back, his package took nearly 2 weeks domestic to arrive, 2 Days should be normal. I don't know if dutch just declares the packages as shipped even if they aren't, or there is some other major fuck up on the way to our doorsteps. But since it affects also US-Customers I guess dutch is just a little busy or slow or both.
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7 days domestic shipping. starting to worry :/
some people here say 7 days to US why the fuck does it need 7 days or even more within germany?
*sigh*
Very few in the US get these packs in 7 days. For most of us the pack is still in Germany 7 days after shipping.
Do you have multiple levels of post service in Germany? Like here in the US we have first class/priority mail but we also have parcel post which is cheaper, might not travel by air, and the post is allowed to take its time on those packages. Just curious. I often wonder if the vendors are using sufficient postage.
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Do you have multiple levels of post service in Germany? Like here in the US we have first class/priority mail but we also have parcel post which is cheaper, might not travel by air, and the post is allowed to take its time on those packages. Just curious. I often wonder if the vendors are using sufficient postage.
We do have different levels of priority for letters and packages. If you use priority shipping on a letter, you can be very sure that it will take 2 day MAX, normally 1 day, since Germany is not that big of a country. I normally send my letters with a standard stamp, throw it in the mailbox and 2 days later it arrives. From my experience it's very unusual if a domestic letter in Germany takes 3 or 4 days to arrive, so 7 days seems way to long.
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Do you have multiple levels of post service in Germany? Like here in the US we have first class/priority mail but we also have parcel post which is cheaper, might not travel by air, and the post is allowed to take its time on those packages. Just curious. I often wonder if the vendors are using sufficient postage.
We do have different levels of priority for letters and packages. If you use priority shipping on a letter, you can be very sure that it will take 2 day MAX, normally 1 day, since Germany is not that big of a country. I normally send my letters with a standard stamp, throw it in the mailbox and 2 days later it arrives. From my experience it's very unusual if a domestic letter in Germany takes 3 or 4 days to arrive, so 7 days seems way to long.
if you have a scale, then it might be interesting if you could weigh the package when you receive it before opening and let us know the total package weight as well as the amount of postage on it. If they stamp the class of mail then that would be good to know as well.
Sure, I will post this information as soon as I get my package.
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Do not post that information. Packaging information should not be posted at all regardless if you think it's harmless or not. People should know better than to ask for that information and I know dutch would not appreciate that. Don't forget this is a public forum.
Well, you're right. It's always dangerous to post detailed information about the packaging, I haven't thought of this. I'm just curious myself about the reason for the shipping delays..
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Do you have multiple levels of post service in Germany? Like here in the US we have first class/priority mail but we also have parcel post which is cheaper, might not travel by air, and the post is allowed to take its time on those packages. Just curious. I often wonder if the vendors are using sufficient postage.
We do have different levels of priority for letters and packages. If you use priority shipping on a letter, you can be very sure that it will take 2 day MAX, normally 1 day, since Germany is not that big of a country. I normally send my letters with a standard stamp, throw it in the mailbox and 2 days later it arrives. From my experience it's very unusual if a domestic letter in Germany takes 3 or 4 days to arrive, so 7 days seems way to long.
if you have a scale, then it might be interesting if you could weigh the package when you receive it before opening and let us know the total package weight as well as the amount of postage on it. If they stamp the class of mail then that would be good to know as well.
Sure, I will post this information as soon as I get my package.
Do not post that information. Packaging information should not be posted at all regardless if you think it's harmless or not. People should know better than to ask for that information and I know dutch would not appreciate that. Don't forget this is a public forum.
fair enough. If he is inclined he can message me the weight and postage and even use my PGP key found in a link in my signature. Otherwise, no big deal.
Not necessarily dutch, but I'm convinced a lot of vendors aren't using enough postage at times and don't even realize it.
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Package arrived.
50g
East USA through NY
Took over 2 weeks.
Arrived at the same time as another package that came through the same German sorting center but that was sent even earlier.
A+++ Dutchaanbod!
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extending my timer by 10 days..i dont expect it for another two weeks though
and its only been 11
so if it comes between now-17th then im fine with it :)
westcoast
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Shit, totally forgot about the storm on the East Coast! My order is probably approaching the sorting center too damn it.
I'm going to extend my resolution a bit longer. I'm hoping to get this order ASAP though, I want to get everything I need before Black Friday an shit comes around, I suspect with the weather and holidays, shipping times are only going to get worse..
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There is a good chance Dutch is beginning to fall into the same routine that SuperTrips has. Taking far too many orders and falling behind on things. All of this sounds familiar. I have gotten multiple packages from XTCExpress in under a week recently, under 10 days from Afterhour and 11 days after being marked in transit I still have not gotten my tracking number from Dutchaanbod for a 100g order.
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Here is the problem with that Ocean. Dutchaanbod has already pulled his listings on multiple occasions to catch up on orders. ST was behind 2 months and never pulled his listings.. SR pulled it for him! Your comparison is crap and not warranted.
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Just placed an order with Dutch! I hope it's up to par/maybe even better than cloudsurfer because I'll be placing an order with him, too! These prices can't be beat! I shall update when it arrives :)
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Here is the problem with that Ocean. Dutchaanbod has already pulled his listings on multiple occasions to catch up on orders. ST was behind 2 months and never pulled his listings.. SR pulled it for him! Your comparison is crap and not warranted.
Your right, i think hes got shit under control, may just take a few days after marked in transit to go out, that seems pretty normal though.
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Here is the problem with that Ocean. Dutchaanbod has already pulled his listings on multiple occasions to catch up on orders. ST was behind 2 months and never pulled his listings.. SR pulled it for him! Your comparison is crap and not warranted.
Oh and you know better than I do? Okay I see.
I was simply making an observation. Look at all the feedback hes had just within the past 24 hours. Its far more traffic than he had when was pulling his listings a few weeks back for being swamped with orders. Im not saying hes as behind as ST is but the stamp on my package I got the other day definitely doesn't match when it was marked in transit.
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Placed a <50g order to East USA, yesterday. Will update when it arrives.
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My 10g pack arrived today 15 days after going in to transit, to a major city in Canada. Packaging left absolutely nothing to have ever been worried about. As stealthy as can be.
The product was on weight, mostly small sandy crystals, a small amount of dust and a few larger crystals varying from .3-.6g. Creamy color pretty consistent throughout. Very nice looking.
I sampled a small amount, two 25mg bumps about 10 minutes apart and was very pleased with the quality. For such a small amount it gave a very nice high for a couple hours, with no noticeable come down. Very clean. I will update with a review in a week or so when I get to crack up a nice fat crystal and try an actual amount.
Very happy with Dutch, will definitely be ordering again! Thanks!
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Here is the problem with that Ocean. Dutchaanbod has already pulled his listings on multiple occasions to catch up on orders. ST was behind 2 months and never pulled his listings.. SR pulled it for him! Your comparison is crap and not warranted.
Oh and you know better than I do? Okay I see.
I was simply making an observation. Look at all the feedback hes had just within the past 24 hours. Its far more traffic than he had when was pulling his listings a few weeks back for being swamped with orders. Im not saying hes as behind as ST is but the stamp on my package I got the other day definitely doesn't match when it was marked in transit.
You might not realize this, but dutch moves his packages INTO A SAFER COUNTRY AND SHIPS THEM FROM THERE TO PROTECT THE BUYER. He may mark the packages as shipped the day that they leave his facility.
He does process a lot of orders, and so efficiency is important. If you expect shipment a few days within ordering then you probably need to look elsewhere.
It is the unnecessary messages to dutch, "it has been x days where's my package?" that waste his time.
Anyway, just thought you should know some of the background.
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Here is the problem with that Ocean. Dutchaanbod has already pulled his listings on multiple occasions to catch up on orders. ST was behind 2 months and never pulled his listings.. SR pulled it for him! Your comparison is crap and not warranted.
Oh and you know better than I do? Okay I see.
I was simply making an observation. Look at all the feedback hes had just within the past 24 hours. Its far more traffic than he had when was pulling his listings a few weeks back for being swamped with orders. Im not saying hes as behind as ST is but the stamp on my package I got the other day definitely doesn't match when it was marked in transit.
You might not realize this, but dutch moves his packages INTO A SAFER COUNTRY AND SHIPS THEM FROM THERE TO PROTECT THE BUYER. He may mark the packages as shipped the day that they leave his facility.
He does process a lot of orders, and so efficiency is important. If you expect shipment a few days within ordering then you probably need to look elsewhere.
It is the unnecessary messages to dutch, "it has been x days where's my package?" that waste his time.
Anyway, just thought you should know some of the background.
You dont need to talk down on me, boy. I've been running around the TOR network for far longer than you have and I know how all of this works. I havent once messaged him about where my order is. I have a package that is stamped a whole 8 days after it was marked in transit. Man you noobies get your panties in a bunch so easily around here.
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Didn't mean it in a bad way man. Positive karma coming your way.
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Fucking Beautiful... Not keeping exact numbers but right around 20 days for SE state side!!! :)
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My order has been processing for about 3 days now. Do most orders go through this?
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quick question,do 10g orders get posted through letter box?
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quick question,do 10g orders get posted through letter box?
Depends on the size of your letterbox
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Here is the problem with that Ocean. Dutchaanbod has already pulled his listings on multiple occasions to catch up on orders. ST was behind 2 months and never pulled his listings.. SR pulled it for him! Your comparison is crap and not warranted.
Oh and you know better than I do? Okay I see.
I was simply making an observation. Look at all the feedback hes had just within the past 24 hours. Its far more traffic than he had when was pulling his listings a few weeks back for being swamped with orders. Im not saying hes as behind as ST is but the stamp on my package I got the other day definitely doesn't match when it was marked in transit.
You might not realize this, but dutch moves his packages INTO A SAFER COUNTRY AND SHIPS THEM FROM THERE TO PROTECT THE BUYER. He may mark the packages as shipped the day that they leave his facility.
He does process a lot of orders, and so efficiency is important. If you expect shipment a few days within ordering then you probably need to look elsewhere.
It is the unnecessary messages to dutch, "it has been x days where's my package?" that waste his time.
Anyway, just thought you should know some of the background.
You dont need to talk down on me, boy. I've been running around the TOR network for far longer than you have and I know how all of this works. I havent once messaged him about where my order is. I have a package that is stamped a whole 8 days after it was marked in transit. Man you noobies get your panties in a bunch so easily around here.
Yea 8 days definitely isn't acceptable, I don't care what his process is. Are job isn't to have to even try to figure out why something is marked in transit 8 days before it was even shipped. Swamped orders or not, its about running a business, the larger the business the more overhead you have to ensure your business is running smoothly while keeping customers happy. Anyways, I placed an order 2 days ago, hasn't been mark in transit yet but I will be certain to update when it arrives. Heard great stuff about his product so far.
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Here is the problem with that Ocean. Dutchaanbod has already pulled his listings on multiple occasions to catch up on orders. ST was behind 2 months and never pulled his listings.. SR pulled it for him! Your comparison is crap and not warranted.
Oh and you know better than I do? Okay I see.
I was simply making an observation. Look at all the feedback hes had just within the past 24 hours. Its far more traffic than he had when was pulling his listings a few weeks back for being swamped with orders. Im not saying hes as behind as ST is but the stamp on my package I got the other day definitely doesn't match when it was marked in transit.
You might not realize this, but dutch moves his packages INTO A SAFER COUNTRY AND SHIPS THEM FROM THERE TO PROTECT THE BUYER. He may mark the packages as shipped the day that they leave his facility.
He does process a lot of orders, and so efficiency is important. If you expect shipment a few days within ordering then you probably need to look elsewhere.
It is the unnecessary messages to dutch, "it has been x days where's my package?" that waste his time.
Anyway, just thought you should know some of the background.
You dont need to talk down on me, boy. I've been running around the TOR network for far longer than you have and I know how all of this works. I havent once messaged him about where my order is. I have a package that is stamped a whole 8 days after it was marked in transit. Man you noobies get your panties in a bunch so easily around here.
Yea 8 days definitely isn't acceptable, I don't care what his process is. Are job isn't to have to even try to figure out why something is marked in transit 8 days before it was even shipped. Swamped orders or not, its about running a business, the larger the business the more overhead you have to ensure your business is running smoothly while keeping customers happy. Anyways, I placed an order 2 days ago, hasn't been mark in transit yet but I will be certain to update when it arrives. Heard great stuff about his product so far.
I don't think there was an 8 day delay between when the package was marked as shipped and when it left the building. tracking often takes several days or even longer to show up and when users don't get any tracking information after 1-2 days many of them start messaging him asking what is wrong. Therefore, dutch may purposely hold off sending out the tracking numbers. Many vendors don't give out the tracking number at all unless to prove the package was delivered so to me this is reasonable. Also, he is going through a lot of trouble to drop the packages off in another country and that takes time.
I personally don't think this is stuff to get upset about. If somebody isn't willing to be patient about waiting then dutch will probably be the first person to tell them to go elsewhere. I received my package from dutch yesterday and for me it was well worth that wait, I'm very happy.
No disrespect, but putting out my perspective here.
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Damn 6g is a lot even if it's only 6%
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quick question,do 10g orders get posted through letter box?
Depends on the size of your letterbox
are they not all the same?mines average letterbox size...im jus wanting to know for when mine comes.dont want to be answering the door if i dont have to.
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Are you guys just weighing the stuff on a piece of posterboard and then putting the product into your own container?
Any ideas on a good container? I'm not crazy about zip-locks but maybe I should buy some small ones (off eBay?).
btw: I've found it necessary to tap my scales to get accurate readings, especially the .1g accuracy scale I've got. I'm sure some of you have good scales but many of us have the cheap ones off eBay or whatever.
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Are you guys just weighing the stuff on a piece of posterboard and then putting the product into your own container?
Any ideas on a good container? I'm not crazy about zip-locks but maybe I should buy some small ones (off eBay?).
btw: I've found it necessary to tap my scales to get accurate readings, especially the .1g accuracy scale I've got. I'm sure some of you have good scales but many of us have the cheap ones off eBay or whatever.
Personally i weigh my stuff on a piece of white paper.
Then i keep my mdma in a folded up piece of paper. Its good for getting it out, but also its a pretty secure way to keep it.
If you are looking for a good scale at an extremely reasonable price you can use amazon. This is a link to the scale that i own, and have owned for 2+ years
***CLEARNET***
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Signature-AWS-100-Digital/dp/B0012LOQUQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8
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Tested his mdma whit Ez-test today, and it turned black immediately, did not even take 1 second.
The first time i use ez-test actually, has eaten mdma and E many times, but never done any testing.
That there is something MDxx when it was black, i understand, but it indicates that it is better if it went black instanly without any delay?
Anyone who has received a packet sent since oktober 28? guess he has a lot to do, for my havet been sent yet
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the best thing to put molly in is them glass vials.and them bags have a lot in them still after u take it out just pt a bit of OJ.and enjoy..
he is the best :-*
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My order went into "transit' within 48 hours :D
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Anyone who's ordered to the UK, what kind of shipping times have you found? I don't see many examples in this thread.
My order was marked in transit just over a week ago. I know I should expect a longer wait than normal, and some people have been waiting several weeks, but normally it's quick to the UK...
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Anyone who's ordered to the UK, what kind of shipping times have you found? I don't see many examples in this thread.
My order was marked in transit just over a week ago. I know I should expect a longer wait than normal, and some people have been waiting several weeks, but normally it's quick to the UK...
it'll be there on saturday
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As of November 1st, my 10g order is now in transit. Hopefully I'm one of the lucky ones, as there is quite a range of shipping times. Obviously, I'll update when it arrives.
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Just placed my 2nd order with Dutchaanbod for 10g's!
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Today was 30th day since market in transit and still nothing. I haven't received a letter from customs or anything like that....
Dutch already offered to split the payment 50/50. If I accept, I won't be able to buy from him again, correct? I just don't want to pass on these awesome prices. Maybe the pack got lost? Should I ask him if I can order a smaller amount and see if it comes?
I'm not sure why it still hasn't come. Seems like everyone here already got their packs after waiting about 4 weeks. This is my 5th order on SR and by far the longest wait. I've ordered from eazyjet x 2, sesampino and AfterHour. All came within 7-8 days.
What's your take on it? Should I extend the resolution for another week or so or just take the $$$ and go elsewhere?
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Today was 30th day since market in transit and still nothing. I haven't received a letter from customs or anything like that....
Dutch already offered to split the payment 50/50. If I accept, I won't be able to buy from him again, correct? I just don't want to pass on these awesome prices. Maybe the pack got lost? Should I ask him if I can order a smaller amount and see if it comes?
I'm not sure why it still hasn't come. Seems like everyone here already got their packs after waiting about 4 weeks. This is my 5th order on SR and by far the longest wait. I've ordered from eazyjet x 2, sesampino and AfterHour. All came within 7-8 days.
What's your take on it? Should I extend the resolution for another week or so or just take the $$$ and go elsewhere?
Extend my man... I had a pack from Eazy come after 3o days, also got a refund and offered him cash back but never heard from him? My first pack from him was 6 days! Last 2 from AH were 24 and 30.. One tracked one not... Last from Dutch 21... Well worth the wait tho!! Will be ordering tracked very soon hopefully, keep it up Dutch :)
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ordered 10 and 20 from dutch. this is my second and third orders, SR 17days went and extended both. im sure it will turn up.
first came no problem , wow thats some crazy shit me n my mate mixed 0.6g into a water bottle and shared on sunburn party , most amazing night i had did a cid blotter too never even felt anything from acid .mandy was that much pumping. did it around 8pm and we were dancing still at 10am next day ,quality product.
cant wait to test the next too,
love his products.
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quick question,do 10g orders get posted through letter box?
Depends on the size of your letterbox
are they not all the same?mines average letterbox size...im jus wanting to know for when mine comes.dont want to be answering the door if i dont have to.
anyone else care to throw in an answer?
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It will be fine.
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8 days, domestic delivery and my molly arrived :)
so fucking happy now. :D
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No worries people it will be in the mailbox!! I have about as small a box as it gets and it fit with ease! Can't wait to get a couple more dollars and place a 50 gram order :)
Oh and product looks amazing, nice beautiful crystal shards that just reek of molly :) Don't even both marquis on this shit but I will be dosing up in about 2 hours so will let ya know how it compares to all the others like AH, ST, and PF for this batch.... haven't had clear crystals EazyJet... and for those bitching about all sand... what?? Granted I would get like one or two gram moonrocks with AH and ST sometimes but the rest would be powder!.. I would much rather have this its basically all like .2/.3 rock and I got very little sand in my over 10 under 50 order ;)
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No worries people it will be in the mailbox!! I have about as small a box as it gets and it fit with ease! Can't wait to get a couple more dollars and place a 50 gram order :)
Oh and product looks amazing, nice beautiful crystal shards that just reek of molly :) Don't even both marquis on this shit but I will be dosing up in about 2 hours so will let ya know how it compares to all the others like AH, ST, and PF for this batch.... haven't had clear crystals EazyJet... and for those bitching about all sand... what?? Granted I would get like one or two gram moonrocks with AH and ST sometimes but the rest would be powder!.. I would much rather have this its basically all like .2/.3 rock and I got very little sand in my over 10 under 50 order ;)
where r u located?
wanna order some but man im so far away im scared i will lose my money...
will he give me a 50%refund if it doesnt come?
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yzxcv, is that amount of detail necessary? Might want to edit your post.
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some people just don't have a brain...
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You quoting it does not help lorax. Delete your quote.
lol already did.. wrote out of anger.. damn kid
thought about it right when i read it but shit man
this guys a troll doing that shit on purpose
i refuse to believe that anyone is that stupid..
cancer
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You can't be serious. Besides the idiot who made a SR reddit. I thinks that's the dumbest shit I've ever seen on here.
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fuck me delete that shit
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he can't be serious.... mods?... anybody?
We need to get rid of this fuckpost.
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everyone that reads that report please
thanks
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Don post details of packing !!!!
from today we don send no-more to AUSTRALIA...
most package's that not arrive are going to there....
Our overall shipping rate is more then 90%
Greats DA
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Don post details of packing !!!!
from today we don send no-more to AUSTRALIA...
most package's that not arrive are going to there....
Our overall shipping rate is more then 90%
Greats DA
OMFG u serious? I had 1 show up last month and placed another 20g order 2 weeks ago. was going to order more =[
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Don post details of packing !!!!
from today we don send no-more to AUSTRALIA...
most package's that not arrive are going to there....
Our overall shipping rate is more then 90%
Greats DA
OMFG u serious? I had 1 show up last month and placed another 20g order 2 weeks ago. was going to order more =[
Devastated I just hope its not aussie`s scamming and fucking it up for honest buyers. It will get to a stage when no one ships to aus I haven`t had any problems with international.
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Just when I start fretting, I hear a pleasing sound from my letterbox...
Got 10g from DA today, 7 working days plus a weekend to UK. Weighed in at 10.14g.
Nice packaging.
Colour is light brown/champagne. 50/50 split between rocks and sand.
Dutchaanbod, I'll finalise when I can actually login to SR....
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Got a message from Dutch about 24 hours ago saying my order was delivered and i should finalize. Im on day 12 now I believe and was never given a tracking number (Over 50g order was made) but jump forward two delivery days and still nothing in my mailbox.
I saw a few people earlier on in the thread say they had tracking numbers say packages were delivered but didnt have anything in the mailbox. Does anyone know what ever came of these people? Is this a common thing and should I be expecting it to just pop in my mailbox after the weekend?
Thanks, this is the first time i've had this happen to me.
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Got a message from Dutch about 24 hours ago saying my order was delivered and i should finalize. Im on day 12 now I believe and was never given a tracking number (Over 50g order was made) but jump forward two delivery days and still nothing in my mailbox.
I saw a few people earlier on in the thread say they had tracking numbers say packages were delivered but didnt have anything in the mailbox. Does anyone know what ever came of these people? Is this a common thing and should I be expecting it to just pop in my mailbox after the weekend?
Thanks, this is the first time i've had this happen to me.
Bro, your golden.....stop stressing.. 12 -14 days aint shit.
If your US domestic....than there is a delay with shipping from Sandy storm!!! Relax.....Dutch is the shit!!
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Im one of the last few that got sent to AUS , hope it arrives.
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fucking morons on here ruining it for other people.
retards not using their brain but reminding themselves to breath.
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Just when I start fretting, I hear a pleasing sound from my letterbox
thats all i needed to here...cant wait till it arrives 8)
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Don post details of packing !!!!
from today we don send no-more to AUSTRALIA...
most package's that not arrive are going to there....
Our overall shipping rate is more then 90%
Greats DA
OMFG u serious? I had 1 show up last month and placed another 20g order 2 weeks ago. was going to order more =[
:( im an aussie waiting for my order to arrive...ordered 3 wks ago...wtf is going on??? its not looking good that im goin to get my order is it? fe'd by accident too so im prob screwed
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Don post details of packing !!!!
from today we don send no-more to AUSTRALIA...
most package's that not arrive are going to there....
Our overall shipping rate is more then 90%
Greats DA
OMFG u serious? I had 1 show up last month and placed another 20g order 2 weeks ago. was going to order more =[
:( im an aussie waiting for my order to arrive...ordered 3 wks ago...wtf is going on??? its not looking good that im goin to get my order is it? fe'd by accident too so im prob screwed
3 weeks is alright. i received mine in 3 n half weeks
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Don post details of packing !!!!
from today we don send no-more to AUSTRALIA...
most package's that not arrive are going to there....
Our overall shipping rate is more then 90%
Greats DA
OMFG u serious? I had 1 show up last month and placed another 20g order 2 weeks ago. was going to order more =[
:( im an aussie waiting for my order to arrive...ordered 3 wks ago...wtf is going on??? its not looking good that im goin to get my order is it? fe'd by accident too so im prob screwed
3 weeks is alright. i received mine in 3 n half weeks
don't stress, it took 24 or so days for me from Dutch. it was worth the wait too
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Sorry Dutch if we post here on your place ;)
But also we will probably stop to sell to AUS!!
We don't have problems with none, like AUS buyers!!
And till now none show us some customs letter, or else!!!
You AUS have a straight customs, but you are not the only one!!! Also USA, CAN, SWEDEN, NORWAY,......etc.
And they all receive, only some AUS buyers don't!!! (We don't mean all the buyers, but a lot!!!!!).
And don't show any customs letter, or postal inspector letter,....etc
If we manage to send to China, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Russia, Japan, South Africa, Singapore,...... and all receive, why only some AUS buyer's claimed that don't!!
If we will receive another 1 or 2 PM's from AUS buyers that hey didn't receive, we will not sell to AUS any more!!!
Sorry Dutch, if post here ;)
Italiano ''Team''
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Sorry Dutch if we post here on your place ;)
But also we will probably stop to sell to AUS!!
We don't have problems with none, like AUS buyers!!
And till now none show us some customs letter, or else!!!
You AUS have a straight customs, but you are not the only one!!! Also USA, CAN, SWEDEN, NORWAY,......etc.
And they all receive, only some AUS buyers don't!!! (We don't mean all the buyers, but a lot!!!!!).
And don't show any customs letter, or postal inspector letter,....etc
If we manage to send to China, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Russia, Japan, South Africa, Singapore,...... and all receive, why only some AUS buyer's claimed that don't!!
If we will receive another 1 or 2 PM's from AUS buyers that hey didn't receive, we will not sell to AUS any more!!!
Sorry Dutch, if post here ;)
Italiano ''Team''
Please everyone take a breath here... I am in AU and have had ZERO issues with o/s/ orders so far, Italiano you have been on my most wanted list since I started out on SR and I would be gutted if a top vendor like you also boycotted Australia because of the actions of a few. I have no real idea if AU customs are better than any other country, I do know that they do not send out love letters for small seizures, probably to mess with everyone's confidence. There has even been speculation of the AFP opening buyer accounts, ordering then claiming no delivery and leaving bad feedback, also to undermine the confidence of buyers and vendors alike.
I would ask all vendors to please not have a knee jerk reaction and introduce a a no ship to AU policy but take each order on it's merits, buyer stats etc and consider those of use who are not scamming and can be trusted as good customers.
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It's not scammers who are fucking this up, it is well and truely Australian customs.
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Got my second order in on 10/31 will post when i recieve with more details.
And a little update on my first batch, it was the brown batch with a spec of 2 of the mysterious green specs. I must say the specs looked like a tiny glitter thing. Nothing to worry about. easy to pick out with some tweezers. The beatch was great. I took 130mg as a initial dose. It was the pefect ammount, but i planned to take more. so i did ;D. I took another .1 bomb 50 min later and that shot me up to the sky. I then took a regretible but still extremely fun nother 70mg, but this time i snorted it. it brought me back up, but it was about 4-5 hours from initial dose so it didnt do much. Overall Dutch's MDMA was amazing, and i felt no sort of comedown. I forgot to mention. When i did the other 70mg i ate an 1/8 of some sweet sweet Golden caps. The best ive ever eaten. WAS AMAZING to say the leat. Visuals galore haha.
Zebra420Kitty
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My pack showed up after 16 days to West Coast USA. That includes weekends. Super excited! I had just gotten on this morning and put it in resolution with an extension request because i didn't want it AutoFinalizing if i couldn't log on, then my address called me and let me know that it arrived. :D Super excited! haven't looked at it myself yet, but I'll be sampling it for quality tomorrow night.
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samesamebutdifferent wtf is going on? is it customs or scammers? stressing out
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why are all the good vendors not shipping here? its not fair i dont understand ive never had any probs recieving in aus, never not recieved a package!!!
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My pack showed up after 16 days to West Coast USA. That includes weekends. Super excited! I had just gotten on this morning and put it in resolution with an extension request because i didn't want it AutoFinalizing if i couldn't log on, then my address called me and let me know that it arrived. :D Super excited! haven't looked at it myself yet, but I'll be sampling it for quality tomorrow night.
9 days and still waiting to same coast. I'm super excited as well and looking forward to sampling it.
Can you comment on quality when you try and also compare to any others that you have tried?
I've tried all the top vendors in the past and only heard good things so far...
Thanks,
plur,G
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Just placed an order for west coast.
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Sorry Dutch if we post here on your place ;)
But also we will probably stop to sell to AUS!!
We don't have problems with none, like AUS buyers!!
And till now none show us some customs letter, or else!!!
You AUS have a straight customs, but you are not the only one!!! Also USA, CAN, SWEDEN, NORWAY,......etc.
And they all receive, only some AUS buyers don't!!! (We don't mean all the buyers, but a lot!!!!!).
And don't show any customs letter, or postal inspector letter,....etc
If we manage to send to China, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Russia, Japan, South Africa, Singapore,...... and all receive, why only some AUS buyer's claimed that don't!!
If we will receive another 1 or 2 PM's from AUS buyers that hey didn't receive, we will not sell to AUS any more!!!
Sorry Dutch, if post here ;)
Italiano ''Team''
Maybe send all of your packages to AUS as registered mail which is tracked. That way you will know for sure if the buyer received or not.
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Has anyone else recieve a larger order (100gs) with Dutchaanbod? I was going to place a 100G order but now hearing what Ocean said about no tracking and no arrival I'm a little nervous. :\
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Has anyone else recieve a larger order (100gs) with Dutchaanbod? I was going to place a 100G order but now hearing what Ocean said about no tracking and no arrival I'm a little nervous. :\
If you look through his feedback you will see there have been many orders for 100g. Also, everything 50g+ comes with tracking. Success rate for tracked packages to anywhere but AUS is apparently very good, and if the package doesn't make it dutch will see in the tracking that it didn't make it so I'm guessing he'll be more likely to find a solution for you.
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I spoke with the person at my drop address this morning and was informed it's mostly crystals or rocks some looking like they might almost pierce the vacuum seal, but they that potential concern was alleviated in another way so package was A+. Apparently there was NO fine sand. W00T!
Eagerly looking forward to sampling the product tonight. Also giving a nice sized sample to 2 or 3 experienced friends. Will report back. Expecting EXCELLENT quality! :D
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Has anyone else recieve a larger order (100gs) with Dutchaanbod? I was going to place a 100G order but now hearing what Ocean said about no tracking and no arrival I'm a little nervous. :\
Hey man,
it was a miscommunication on our behalves! He actually sent me the tracking number to the last package he sent me :P
He hit me up earlier with the proper tracking number. Im on day 13 though and the tracking number he gave me doesnt display any information. Not really worried though i've had packages take 23 days and show up without tracking ever updating.
People complain about USPS but in reality we have the best postal system in the world. Nothing gets lost and tracking is usually frequently updated. GOD BLESS AMERICA.......................... ::)
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Has anyone had any experience receiving to the UK off this vendor? Seems to be quite a lot of people receiving no product and leaving 5/5 for a 50% refund?
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Has anyone had any experience receiving to the UK off this vendor? Seems to be quite a lot of people receiving no product and leaving 5/5 for a 50% refund?
Yea a lot of fucking scammers fucking it up for everyone!!!
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Just wanted to say something about quality on the last batch which was mostly all white shards with no sand.... IMO it's the best I've had off the road!! Stronger than AH, ST, EazyJet, and Reich when he was around!! Very impressed and for sure my only go to for mdma now a days :)
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Don post details of packing !!!!
sorry!
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samesamebutdifferent wtf is going on? is it customs or scammers? stressing out
Personally I think it is both, there has been discussion re QLD police making reference to tactics for undermining confidence in SR, this was made some 6 months ago and now look at the increase in alleged non arrivals and vendors getting an increase in suspected scamming. Whether or not this is true is does make sense and it would be a very effective an non resource intensive way of disrupting sales on SR to AU as it both undermines potential buyers confidence as well as vendors as we are now seeing (Dutch, Italiano etc).
We have a journalist posting on these forums (Ozfreelancer) who has commented on this scenario, they have a blog called www.allthingsvice.com which is worth a look.
I just hope everyone can approach this issue from a sensible position, AU customs is tight no question but are they tighter than Norway, Sweden, the US etc? I doubt it, I think there is a lot of hype out there which is being used for various ends.
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Aussies keep calm and order as you would normally. This whole AUS freak out will blow over shortly.
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samesamebutdifferent wtf is going on? is it customs or scammers? stressing out
Personally I think it is both, there has been discussion re QLD police making reference to tactics for undermining confidence in SR, this was made some 6 months ago and now look at the increase in alleged non arrivals and vendors getting an increase in suspected scamming. Whether or not this is true is does make sense and it would be a very effective an non resource intensive way of disrupting sales on SR to AU as it both undermines potential buyers confidence as well as vendors as we are now seeing (Dutch, Italiano etc).
We have a journalist posting on these forums (Ozfreelancer) who has commented on this scenario, they have a blog called www.allthingsvice.com which is worth a look.
I just hope everyone can approach this issue from a sensible position, AU customs is tight no question but are they tighter than Norway, Sweden, the US etc? I doubt it, I think there is a lot of hype out there which is being used for various ends.
Wow, great link. This sort of infiltration is rather genius and I think there's a strong chance it occurred here. If you search the drugs section by popularity, the first listing is - you guessed it - Dutcaanbod's 10g listing. He's shipping a shitload of an unusually popular quantity, so something must be up.
If scammers and LE are indeed the reason for his Aussie ban, then a quick fix would be to just require buyers have decent stats to even order. Something like 10 past orders for at least $1000.
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samesamebutdifferent wtf is going on? is it customs or scammers? stressing out
Personally I think it is both, there has been discussion re QLD police making reference to tactics for undermining confidence in SR, this was made some 6 months ago and now look at the increase in alleged non arrivals and vendors getting an increase in suspected scamming. Whether or not this is true is does make sense and it would be a very effective an non resource intensive way of disrupting sales on SR to AU as it both undermines potential buyers confidence as well as vendors as we are now seeing (Dutch, Italiano etc).
We have a journalist posting on these forums (Ozfreelancer) who has commented on this scenario, they have a blog called www.allthingsvice.com which is worth a look.
I just hope everyone can approach this issue from a sensible position, AU customs is tight no question but are they tighter than Norway, Sweden, the US etc? I doubt it, I think there is a lot of hype out there which is being used for various ends.
Wow, great link. This sort of infiltration is rather genius and I think there's a strong chance it occurred here. If you search the drugs section by popularity, the first listing is - you guessed it - Dutcaanbod's 10g listing. He's shipping a shitload of an unusually popular quantity, so something must be up.
If scammers and LE are indeed the reason for his Aussie ban, then a quick fix would be to just require buyers have decent stats to even order. Something like 10 past orders for at least $1000.
That is precisely my thinking too, there are a lot unsubstantiated rumors being banded about on here, some people think AU customs are so incredibly intuitive they are impenetrable (which is not the case), others think Aussies are scamming the hell out of vendors (again as a general rule for legit buyers this is not the case and certainly no more than any other nationality), and some think vendors are scamming Aussies using the customs excuse to selectively scam. As with most things I suspect the truth lies somewhere in-between all of these factors and if you add in the LE creating buyers accounts scenario I think you have your answer re a disproportionate amount of AU non arrivals.
If vendors were to take each sale on its merits based upon past sales, stats etc then that would put an end to most of this crap, of course there will be seizures, that is inevitable but if the refund/reship terms reflect the factors I mention then it wouldn't be hard to filter out the scammers/LE from the legit buyers.
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18 days to the SE US. Looks really good, havent tested yet. Pretty happy with this.
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so yeah that link was cool man thanks alot 8)
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Hey people I wanted to Dutchaanbod an order of 10 g MDMA give up,but his profile says "what load lakes: 2 days ago"white maybe jemnad with him what is going on?
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samesamebutdifferent wtf is going on? is it customs or scammers? stressing out
Personally I think it is both, there has been discussion re QLD police making reference to tactics for undermining confidence in SR, this was made some 6 months ago and now look at the increase in alleged non arrivals and vendors getting an increase in suspected scamming. Whether or not this is true is does make sense and it would be a very effective an non resource intensive way of disrupting sales on SR to AU as it both undermines potential buyers confidence as well as vendors as we are now seeing (Dutch, Italiano etc).
We have a journalist posting on these forums (Ozfreelancer) who has commented on this scenario, they have a blog called www.allthingsvice.com which is worth a look.
I just hope everyone can approach this issue from a sensible position, AU customs is tight no question but are they tighter than Norway, Sweden, the US etc? I doubt it, I think there is a lot of hype out there which is being used for various ends.
Wow, great link. This sort of infiltration is rather genius and I think there's a strong chance it occurred here. If you search the drugs section by popularity, the first listing is - you guessed it - Dutcaanbod's 10g listing. He's shipping a shitload of an unusually popular quantity, so something must be up.
If scammers and LE are indeed the reason for his Aussie ban, then a quick fix would be to just require buyers have decent stats to even order. Something like 10 past orders for at least $1000.
If it is scammers and LE then 10 transactions and 1000 is nothing... maybe make it so you'd have to be a member for at least 5 months and more like 25+ and over 5K spent cause any LE can spend 1000 easy or get some 2 dollar transactions and have 30 of them lol!! Or just fuck OZ, like all other vendors say they are the only ones with problems so something is up??? Not saying there are plenty of legit honest Aussies but overall this just isn't right.... especially in OZ isn't like 10g of molly worth like 2 thousand haha?? y'all should be happy as fuck and wanna suck his dick and not scam him lol!!
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5+ previous successful orders with dutch (never longer than 10 days).
currently have 3 orders with dutch, all to different addresses.
order 1, 20g , day 27.
order 2, 20g, day 27.
order 3, 20, day 16.
dont think they are coming. during these orders i have received 3 other sr orders from germany within 9 days.
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5+ previous successful orders with dutch (never longer than 10 days).
currently have 3 orders with dutch, all to different addresses.
order 1, 20g , day 27.
order 2, 20g, day 27.
order 3, 20, day 16.
dont think they are coming. during these orders i have received 3 other sr orders from germany within 9 days.
What country are you from? I heard Germany is having mail delay.
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My last order from Dutch took about 28 days to reach me in the US. German Post is known for being notoriously slow. US Customs can hold your package for up to 14 days as well. I would say after 45 days I would say your package is not coming. 45 days is the maximum time for a no show package from Germany to the USA. Also, hurricane SANDY hit right around where customs is at as well. Mail is backed up and behind.
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samesamebutdifferent wtf is going on? is it customs or scammers? stressing out
Personally I think it is both, there has been discussion re QLD police making reference to tactics for undermining confidence in SR, this was made some 6 months ago and now look at the increase in alleged non arrivals and vendors getting an increase in suspected scamming. Whether or not this is true is does make sense and it would be a very effective an non resource intensive way of disrupting sales on SR to AU as it both undermines potential buyers confidence as well as vendors as we are now seeing (Dutch, Italiano etc).
We have a journalist posting on these forums (Ozfreelancer) who has commented on this scenario, they have a blog called www.allthingsvice.com which is worth a look.
I just hope everyone can approach this issue from a sensible position, AU customs is tight no question but are they tighter than Norway, Sweden, the US etc? I doubt it, I think there is a lot of hype out there which is being used for various ends.
Wow, great link. This sort of infiltration is rather genius and I think there's a strong chance it occurred here. If you search the drugs section by popularity, the first listing is - you guessed it - Dutcaanbod's 10g listing. He's shipping a shitload of an unusually popular quantity, so something must be up.
If scammers and LE are indeed the reason for his Aussie ban, then a quick fix would be to just require buyers have decent stats to even order. Something like 10 past orders for at least $1000.
If it is scammers and LE then 10 transactions and 1000 is nothing... maybe make it so you'd have to be a member for at least 5 months and more like 25+ and over 5K spent cause any LE can spend 1000 easy or get some 2 dollar transactions and have 30 of them lol!! Or just fuck OZ, like all other vendors say they are the only ones with problems so something is up??? Not saying there are plenty of legit honest Aussies but overall this just isn't right.... especially in OZ isn't like 10g of molly worth like 2 thousand haha?? y'all should be happy as fuck and wanna suck his dick and not scam him lol!!
Citystar31 - Yes, in Australia buying MDMA from a dealer costs roughly $250 / gram. So a 10gm package is "worth" $2,500 here. And we can get it on silk road for $200. Even if success rate was 20% to Aus, we'd still be much better off. Even buying MDMA bulk from a high-up dealer will cost $60+ / gram.
As an Australian with 25 flawless Silk Road transactions, 20 of them being from overseas, I am very disappointed than DA has stopped selling to Australia.
I have had one order from DA which arrived in 20 days and the second order is in transit and I'm expecting it in the next few days.
The product was of a very high quality, packaging was fantastic and DA was friendly in communicating. DA's prices are also lower than any other MDMA vendors and the listing for 10gm MDMA is now then umber 1 bestselling item on Silk Road.
I don't know why DA has decided to stop selling to Australia, but if it is true that customs or other law enforcement are using Silk Road to purchase drugs and scam sellers, I am outraged.
It is a disgrace to know that the taxes I pay are going towards Government departments wasting money on buying drugs and wasting them just to erode Australian's confidence in Silk Road.
I believe in civil liberties and I believe that since Australia is apparently a democracy, we should be allowed to consume whatever we like, especially since expert medical and scientific research shows than occasional MDMA use is harmless to the brain, and is less addictive than alcohol and tobacco. Not to mention the negative social impact alcohol has - MDMA has no negative social impact.
Living in Australia is like living as a child. The Government is constantly extending their powers to further control and manipulate the population, even though we apparently live in a democratic country. It is saddening that citizens of one of the greatest countries in the world is constantly losing their rights and freedom. I wish to move overseas in the near future because the Government here is constantly becoming more and more controlling over peoples lives. It seems it is in the best interest of the Government to strictly control of ban everything that doesn't improve the economy.
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does anyone know if dutch delievers to p.o. boxes?
has anyone in USA ever had a succesful delivery to a p.o. box?
let me know
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does anyone know if dutch delievers to p.o. boxes?
has anyone in USA ever had a succesful delivery to a p.o. box?
let me know
I am pretty sure that as long as it is not registered or tracked mail then it can be put in a PO box however I have heard that problems arise if it is since it involves signatures!!
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Read this right now, but from this thread i sense alot of unbelieving, but i need my 40g MDMA, i know its not in dutch's control and i know its coming soon. This is nto a complaint u motherfuckers. Just read itright now, my carrier body is coming out, i may puke and my shivamay leave
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=66108.0
I'm a pretty open and adventuresome person, but whatever you are smoking I think I will pass ;)
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got my order from dutch today took around 20days but all good, first and second came no problems, thanks dutch ur a star
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I got my order today from MIMM within 10 days, so customs is not as tuff as everyone thinks it is, not to say Aussies are scammers (i'm in Aus) because customs did get one of my orders and i'm still waiting on a reship) but letters do get through.
don't boycot Aussies because of a couple of scammers or tuff customs, maybe ask for FE for the first 5 orders with a new Aussie buyer before using escrow, at least this way if letters start going missing after the first 5 then the buyer can't claim scammer as he has obviously received many letters before they started going missing.
Just a thought
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hi!
2 questions:
1. if i order 10g within EU - do i have to sign this letter or do it comes directly into the mailbox?
2. does he send with USPS or normal post (10g)?
thx!
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5+ previous successful orders with dutch (never longer than 10 days).
currently have 3 orders with dutch, all to different addresses.
order 1, 20g , day 27.
order 2, 20g, day 27.
order 3, 20, day 16.
dont think they are coming. during these orders i have received 3 other sr orders from germany within 9 days.
I had the opposite experience. My order from dutch came in less than two weeks while my other order from germany is on day 21. There are so many factors that go into it, it's all dumb luck in my opinion.
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I've heard in extreme cases some orders from Germany taking 45+ days. German Post is notorious for slow mailing and temp losing of packages. In most cases though packages seem to arrive 28 days and under. I would give any vendor the benefit of doubt for at least 45 days. The mail is not a sure time limit. Holidays, weather, strikes, and employees are all factors that can effect your mail delivery time. Just keep this in mind when ordering that you may not see your order for 45 days. Even most lost packages aren't lost and show up eventually. Just make sure you order from a good vendor and just sit back and relax.
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what happened to the german efficiency :)
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If this order of 40 g gets fucked then I am done with SR for a while. This will be the third order in a row to not go well. First supertrips screws me on an oz of molly then googleyed says the package "didn't make it through?" after only 8 days and is already refunding me which is totally weird. Now Dutch.....please please come through, all I was is an honest consistent mdma vendor and I alone will make them rich.
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go figure, listing are down just as I'm ready to order. :'(
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I've heard in extreme cases some orders from Germany taking 45+ days. German Post is notorious for slow mailing and temp losing of packages. In most cases though packages seem to arrive 28 days and under. I would give any vendor the benefit of doubt for at least 45 days. The mail is not a sure time limit. Holidays, weather, strikes, and employees are all factors that can effect your mail delivery time. Just keep this in mind when ordering that you may not see your order for 45 days. Even most lost packages aren't lost and show up eventually. Just make sure you order from a good vendor and just sit back and relax.
Man I would LOVE to have this experience. Just finished resolution of a 10g order that's been out for 32 days, no package, no customs letter. I have another 10g order I made with him a week ago when I was feeling hopeful. I'm praying my ass isn't flagged.
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I've heard in extreme cases some orders from Germany taking 45+ days. German Post is notorious for slow mailing and temp losing of packages. In most cases though packages seem to arrive 28 days and under. I would give any vendor the benefit of doubt for at least 45 days. The mail is not a sure time limit. Holidays, weather, strikes, and employees are all factors that can effect your mail delivery time. Just keep this in mind when ordering that you may not see your order for 45 days. Even most lost packages aren't lost and show up eventually. Just make sure you order from a good vendor and just sit back and relax.
Man I would LOVE to have this experience. Just finished resolution of a 10g order that's been out for 32 days, no package, no customs letter. I have another 10g order I made with him a week ago when I was feeling hopeful. I'm praying my ass isn't flagged.
I doubt your order is flagged, i had a 10gr i never received and have since ordered and received packages from much higher risks countries
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His listings are back up BTW. The listings are down because of a bug on the SR site. When vendors are logging on the site isn't seeing the activity and it puts their profile into vacation mode. This is happening right now for all vendors.
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I got a chance to examine my package and i discovered the product wasn't all rock like i was told. :( in all fairness it is really high quality and the smallest pieces in the package are still definitely crystals, but they are smaller like large sized sand. It is of the highest quality.
Super satisfied! I'll likely order again soon. :)
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Received my 10g order today. 19 days from day of being marked in transit.
Nice packaging! weighed in at 12.8 gm with the (vacuum) packaging.
About 95% medium to medium-small crystal and the rest is very very small crystal with very little powder.
Unfortunately i will not be able to sample this myself, but i will get feedback from the people its going to.
Thanks Dutch! great transaction!
will be doing business again very soon. unbeatable prices!
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I've heard in extreme cases some orders from Germany taking 45+ days. German Post is notorious for slow mailing and temp losing of packages. In most cases though packages seem to arrive 28 days and under. I would give any vendor the benefit of doubt for at least 45 days. The mail is not a sure time limit. Holidays, weather, strikes, and employees are all factors that can effect your mail delivery time. Just keep this in mind when ordering that you may not see your order for 45 days. Even most lost packages aren't lost and show up eventually. Just make sure you order from a good vendor and just sit back and relax.
Man I would LOVE to have this experience. Just finished resolution of a 10g order that's been out for 32 days, no package, no customs letter. I have another 10g order I made with him a week ago when I was feeling hopeful. I'm praying my ass isn't flagged.
I doubt your order is flagged, i had a 10gr i never received and have since ordered and received packages from much higher risks countries
Really? No customs letter... nothing? Any idea what it could have been?
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I've heard in extreme cases some orders from Germany taking 45+ days. German Post is notorious for slow mailing and temp losing of packages. In most cases though packages seem to arrive 28 days and under. I would give any vendor the benefit of doubt for at least 45 days. The mail is not a sure time limit. Holidays, weather, strikes, and employees are all factors that can effect your mail delivery time. Just keep this in mind when ordering that you may not see your order for 45 days. Even most lost packages aren't lost and show up eventually. Just make sure you order from a good vendor and just sit back and relax.
Man I would LOVE to have this experience. Just finished resolution of a 10g order that's been out for 32 days, no package, no customs letter. I have another 10g order I made with him a week ago when I was feeling hopeful. I'm praying my ass isn't flagged.
I doubt your order is flagged, i had a 10gr i never received and have since ordered and received packages from much higher risks countries
Really? No customs letter... nothing? Any idea what it could have been?
I haven't heard of anyone getting a customs letter. I think that the no-shows are a combination of scammers and occasionally a mistake on the packaging (eg address, postage, something like that).
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I've heard in extreme cases some orders from Germany taking 45+ days. German Post is notorious for slow mailing and temp losing of packages. In most cases though packages seem to arrive 28 days and under. I would give any vendor the benefit of doubt for at least 45 days. The mail is not a sure time limit. Holidays, weather, strikes, and employees are all factors that can effect your mail delivery time. Just keep this in mind when ordering that you may not see your order for 45 days. Even most lost packages aren't lost and show up eventually. Just make sure you order from a good vendor and just sit back and relax.
Man I would LOVE to have this experience. Just finished resolution of a 10g order that's been out for 32 days, no package, no customs letter. I have another 10g order I made with him a week ago when I was feeling hopeful. I'm praying my ass isn't flagged.
I doubt your order is flagged, i had a 10gr i never received and have since ordered and received packages from much higher risks countries
Really? No customs letter... nothing? Any idea what it could have been?
I haven't heard of anyone getting a customs letter. I think that the no-shows are a combination of scammers and occasionally a mistake on the packaging (eg address, postage, something like that).
That's actually really interesting... I haven't either. Although you hear stories about people being afraid of a "love letter" and "knocks" (and sellers asking for a "proof of customs seizure letter" as a requirement for refunds) you don't really hear about them actually happening.
Have people been arrested from SR orders yet? Not, like, "PARENTS CATCH CHILD BUYING DRUGS OFF INTERNET" scares but like people getting popped buying from legit vendors like Dutchaanbod, AfterHour, CloudSurfer, et al?
Also, in the case of mislabeled addresses (I personally cut 'n' paste but I assume something might happen) where would they ultimately end up?
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If the address is wrong or invalid it will get sent back to the return address right away.. Won't be held at all at the local post office and obviously once it gets back to the country of origin they will realize its not a real address and most likely open it or toss out!! Either way thats not good!!
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I've heard in extreme cases some orders from Germany taking 45+ days. German Post is notorious for slow mailing and temp losing of packages. In most cases though packages seem to arrive 28 days and under. I would give any vendor the benefit of doubt for at least 45 days. The mail is not a sure time limit. Holidays, weather, strikes, and employees are all factors that can effect your mail delivery time. Just keep this in mind when ordering that you may not see your order for 45 days. Even most lost packages aren't lost and show up eventually. Just make sure you order from a good vendor and just sit back and relax.
Man I would LOVE to have this experience. Just finished resolution of a 10g order that's been out for 32 days, no package, no customs letter. I have another 10g order I made with him a week ago when I was feeling hopeful. I'm praying my ass isn't flagged.
I'm pretty much in the same boat. Tomorrow will be day 35 since marked in transit and still nothing. No pack, no customs letter. I'm in the Mid West by the way. I'm still in resolution until the end of the week. After that I will probably take 50% as offered by Dutch.
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I've heard in extreme cases some orders from Germany taking 45+ days. German Post is notorious for slow mailing and temp losing of packages. In most cases though packages seem to arrive 28 days and under. I would give any vendor the benefit of doubt for at least 45 days. The mail is not a sure time limit. Holidays, weather, strikes, and employees are all factors that can effect your mail delivery time. Just keep this in mind when ordering that you may not see your order for 45 days. Even most lost packages aren't lost and show up eventually. Just make sure you order from a good vendor and just sit back and relax.
Man I would LOVE to have this experience. Just finished resolution of a 10g order that's been out for 32 days, no package, no customs letter. I have another 10g order I made with him a week ago when I was feeling hopeful. I'm praying my ass isn't flagged.
I'm pretty much in the same boat. Tomorrow will be day 35 since marked in transit and still nothing. No pack, no customs letter. I'm in the Mid West by the way. I'm still in resolution until the end of the week. After that I will probably take 50% as offered by Dutch.
I'm also Midwest. This is maybe good to know! What if there's still hope (and drugs!) for us simple country folk?
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just added two weeks after the auto warn by SR after 11 days in transit. Seems par for course...but when should I start worrying?
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I tried to use the German Post website to determine what the postage on my packages from Germany should be and compare that to the actual postage used but unfortunately that part of the German website isn't available in English.
I received two packages from Germany from different vendors. Both about the same size but both registered mail. The heavier package has significantly less postage on it than the lighter package. Thus, either one vendor applied too much postage or one vendor applied to little but it got let through anyway. Or both.
If a vendor is using insufficient postage on non-tracked packages with invalid return addresses, they won't even know that the postage is insufficient. Things like "rigid packaging" require additional postage in the US but more often than not they let it through. Germany might have different rules.
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For whatever reason, the tracked packages are reported to rarely get lost and when they do the vendor can see that you aren't lying. For that reason I ordered 50g which is (hopefully) a lifetime supply for me. I received my package maybe 3 weeks after ordering. I'm happy.
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Anyone who has recently received from Dutch... what color were the crystals?
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Sweet. Thanks for the quick answer.
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Got my order to just to start with.
Okay so I'm going to try to get some Karma here and cover all the bases. I ordered my 50 grams on October 3rd. It was marked "in transit" on the 4th. I got tracking on the order because it was 50 grams (50+ g orders get tracking). The order tracking said it was at the ISC NY on the 13th of October. I finalized per policy, and because I trust Dutch. Then I waited. Until today when it was deliver. 31 days later counting weekends to Northeast US (ISC for 23 days of the 31). Fuck customs, but maybe Sandy? But probably just the usual government agency having no sense of time. The package was delivered no problem. Had to sign for it. I knew I would because of the tracking. Not a problem. The packaging is beautiful. I kind of got a boner.
Tested in front of a customer, went to black, sizzled and smoked, his jaw dropped and he was dumbstruck said he had never seen a reaction like that, everything else has been M1. I was expecting it because I knew it was legit, and was able to maintain a straight face. Dutch's MDMA is amazing, a 0.2 dose for a beginner is fine, maybe even split over a night. I am committed buyer, this is worth the wait. 19325114 out of 5 rating.
Dutch I love you, you are the man,
Excuse me while I go roll.
Much love to all you guys,
FromTheMoon
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Wowww ISC for 23 days thats some fucked up shit.
+Karma for not making 100 posts in the forums about it.
This.
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Yeah I know, t0rk and GetYourFix, if it wasn't for the hurricane I think it would have been here sooner. Goes to show how stealthy the packaging is though. Right under their noses for 23 days and they didn't even know it.
I try to not plague the rest of SR with my troubles.
peace
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That is a sexy fucking story.
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Anyone who has recently received from Dutch... what color were the crystals?
Most recent are white.
I've had brown and glass ones before though
Just to add some information, I ordered mine on Oct 11 and they are tan and have a heavy safrole scent.
Interesting all of the different batches dutch gets.
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Just to add my 2 cents...
Got my little 10 gram order about 2 weeks ago after waiting 16 days to a major city in the Midwest USA. Weight was right on point, biggest crystals I had were around 300 miligrams. There is some san, but mostly very gravelly. Crystals are clear and glasslike, with a couple specks of brown here and there. A cap my hits around 90-100 miligrams each, upon distributing to about 20-30 people so far not a single person has not absolutely loved it. Most of those people say it is the best MDMA they have ever had. What you would expect considering a lot of the trash 'molly' that goes around here. Upon sampling myself, I found just 100 miligrams gave me an extremely smooth and clean roll of medium strength. Come down was the best I have ever experienced, so smooth and no discomfort. The smell of the product is some of the strongest saffrole I have ever smelled. Unbeatable shit for the price
Also, as far as how this product fares in comparison with other MDMA vendors, I've only tried juergen's and eazyjet's molly. It is a whole lot better than juergens, eazyjet's is better than juergen but dutch is still above eazyjet by a decent amount.
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...Also, as far as this product fares in comparison with other MDMA vendors, I've only tried juergen's and eazyjeta molly. It is a whole lot better than juergens, eazyjet's is better than juergen but dutch is still above eazyjet by a decent amount.
Follow up on that, I have bough 28 g from AH, and 20 MrFireUK, (who sadly has not been around :'( ) within the past 1.5 months and AH is for sure up to par with Dutch, but the rocks are not as large. MrFireUK was also almost there with Dutch, but the MDMA was crushed to a powder and that just means the "WOW" factor isn't there for people if you are selling. Rocks are very easy to sell, especially when they bubble and smoke in the reagent tests. Dutch has also had the best stealth.
I also agree with the dosing hellwillbetoasty mentioned.
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Has anyone had success ordering bulk from Dutch to the USA? I'm thinking about ordering a bulk order but i'm unsure as it will be my first order larger then 40g's.
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Has anyone had success ordering bulk from Dutch to the USA? I'm thinking about ordering a bulk order but i'm unsure as it will be my first order larger then 40g's.
Define bulk.
There have been a lot of 100g+ orders to the US I believe. According to dutch the reported success rate for 50g+ packages is way better than below 50g.
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I have seen a lot of 100g orders lately or at least FE's for hitting the sorting center. Although, I have not seen that many people reporting in on weight getting in. I'm sure the success rate is higher on the bulk packages because of tracking. There is no denying a package was delivered when it is tracked. That cuts down on people saying the package never came.
The highest amount I have done is 40g and I was wondering if there was a lot of success with his method for bulk orders. I have only seen like 1 feedback of someone receiving and no posts on the forum.
I do not doubt Dutch's stealth, I am just wanting reassurance from others that indeed it does make it through.
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Got my 10g order yesterday, 2full weeks to western europe.
Product smell solvent and have a white color.
Have tested it yesterday, potent product !
Thanks Dutchaanbod.
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Has anyone had success ordering bulk from Dutch to the USA? I'm thinking about ordering a bulk order but i'm unsure as it will be my first order larger then 40g's.
Define bulk.
There have been a lot of 100g+ orders to the US I believe. According to dutch the reported success rate for 50g+ packages is way better than below 50g.
I wonder if scammers are more likely to scam on large orders?
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Large orders are tracked making it harder for the buyer to scam.
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Anyone know when listings are going back up?
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Has anyone had success ordering bulk from Dutch to the USA? I'm thinking about ordering a bulk order but i'm unsure as it will be my first order larger then 40g's.
Define bulk.
There have been a lot of 100g+ orders to the US I believe. According to dutch the reported success rate for 50g+ packages is way better than below 50g.
Not only are larger orders tracked but you also FE' for them once they hit the sorting center.
It is almost impossible for any kind of scam to occur.
I wonder if scammers are more likely to scam on large orders?
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Anyone know when listings are going back up?
I'm waiting for the listing to go up as well. They will go up as soon as he signs in the site again. It appears there is some bug in the site right now that automatically takes down listings from a vendor after the site hasn't seen the vendor for 12 hours.
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I see plenty of 100g orders making it through there is literally 1 bad feedback for the 100g listing...
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8 business days to western Europe for 10g's. super amazing stealth :) only my second M purchase on SR and it was quality! it was a top notch experience overall [i.e. the opposite of supertrips!] and i'll be back for more, sure you would be foolish not too :)
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when will your listings be back up?
are there no more MDMA vendors?all have stopped selling it"for now"
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I know its more $ but why not do tracking on all packages? pass the extra shipping costs onto us. Seems like it would make sense with prices this good, would cut down on scammers...
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Not everyone wants to have to sign for a package.
A 10g package will fit in a letterbox without a problem, whereas a 50gm package probably will not and will need to be delivered in person.
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I know its more $ but why not do tracking on all packages? pass the extra shipping costs onto us. Seems like it would make sense with prices this good, would cut down on scammers...
I agree with you, as long as it doesn't raise prices for those of us already buying 50g+.
I prefer tracked packages. Less scamming should mean lower prices. The vendor and the honest buyers benefit.
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I'm just waiting for the listings to go back up.
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ordered 10g mdma!
im very excited, this is my third transaction on SR, have good faith with dutchaanbod.
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dutch is the man, im on day 23 waiting on a BIG order.. fingers crossed it comes this week... im in oceania so longer times are expected.. i got faith ;)
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My last package was great, The day after I extended escrow I received.. So that what? 17 days? Great package, Great product. So many happy people that needed a break and/or exclusive tap into serotonin.
I hope that someday we see german shipping return to it's amazing turnaround.. Until then.. THANK YOU DUTCH FOR KEEPING YOUR PRICES GREAT! The world is loving your service, and tho I only speak for a small amount of the world.. TRUST, you are making this world a better place, thank you again.
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Has he got his problem fixed? When will the listings be back up?
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Has he got his problem fixed? When will the listings be back up?
Nope, listings aren't up yet. I saw them up for a little while yesterday. I'm waiting to see if they go up again today.
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I reallly hope his listings will be up soon 8)
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Has he got his problem fixed? When will the listings be back up?
Nope, listings aren't up yet. I saw them up for a little while yesterday. I'm waiting to see if they go up again today.
What the fuck I have been waiting over 3 days!!! All other vendors are up??? Considering its already been 3 days and its usually 3-4 to process this really adds a week on top of whats already a 2-4 week wait for me :( Really need it to be up by tonight!!
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Dude take a chill pill and relax. It's not dutch's fault the listing are down. It's a bug in SR that incorrectly puts vendors in vacation mode and deactivates their listing
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Dude take a chill pill and relax. It's not dutch's fault the listing are down. It's a bug in SR that incorrectly puts vendors in vacation mode and deactivates their listing
Oh I'm chill!! Just sucks not knowing if your going to have money.. a week delay is a long time for a paycheck... how would you feel if your employer held your shit for an extra week then say maybe the mailman was a week late delivering it... all i was saying is the bug has been fixed for way over 24 hrs... hence all other vendors have been fine and I have been buying!! As fucked as it sounds but illegal or not people still rely on this shit to feed their families and pay bills!!!
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Bought 20g at 30.10.
Nothing arrived until now with domestic shipping. I'm quite disappointed with shipping time. Just messaged him to get informations...
Hope to get my stuff soon
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Bought 20g at 30.10.
Nothing arrived until now with domestic shipping. I'm quite disappointed with shipping time. Just messaged him to get informations...
Hope to get my stuff soon
I'm also waiting since 7 Days on a domestic shipment, but no worries. There was another domestic shipment that took 2 Weeks. It will arrive, it's just precipitated marked as "in transit" I guess. I think you got to keep in mind that he has hundreds of orders per week, there might be a certain delay because of this. I'm confident that everything will turn out fine, for you, for me, hopefully for all of us.
Btw, I don't think that messaging will bring you further information, since it's not tracked. If it's shipped it should arrive soon, if not, it will be shipped soon and arrive a little later.
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So I ordered 5g of MDMA from Dutch and it went into transit exactly 28 days ago. This has been my first international order so I don't know exactly what kind of time frames to expect. Should I be worried? Any idea if the hurricane has anything to do with it? I don't know how long is too long and I am a little worried I got selectively scammed. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
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So I ordered 5g of MDMA from Dutch and it went into transit exactly 28 days ago. This has been my first international order so I don't know exactly what kind of time frames to expect. Should I be worried? Any idea if the hurricane has anything to do with it? I don't know how long is too long and I am a little worried I got selectively scammed. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
Don't worry man... I have had packs from Germany be in the 30 day range and Sandy for sure put a delay on all international mail coming from EU!!!! It even affected shipping domestically up and down the East coast... Also give Dutch like 3 days to ship max once he marks it in transit because he then moves it so it's a safier ship location for International buyers ;) Finally made a deal with someone to lock up some coins for tmrw with all this BS going on with the BTC but really hope the listings are up cause i need 50+ as quick as i can get it lol!! ??? 8)
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So I ordered 5g of MDMA from Dutch and it went into transit exactly 28 days ago. This has been my first international order so I don't know exactly what kind of time frames to expect. Should I be worried? Any idea if the hurricane has anything to do with it? I don't know how long is too long and I am a little worried I got selectively scammed. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
My last package I got from Dutch arrived around 28 days. The hurricane has most likely backed up mail a little bit, so expect some delays.
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There is too much crap in this thread. The thread is titled product review. I go through like 10 pages and all i see is crap and no review of the quality of the product. please can people start reviewing the product?
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There is too much crap in this thread. The thread is titled product review. I go through like 10 pages and all i see is crap and no review of the quality of the product. please can people start reviewing the product?
Dutch clearly moves a lot of product and has sold at least 3-4 very different batches in the past few months. What do they all have in common? They are all potent with MDMA, although to be honest most of the well established MDMA vendors here also sell potent MDMA.
The MDMA trip reports don't mean much to me. Either it worked or it didn't. If you can wait, and especially if you want to order a good amount, then dutch if your guy. If you need a smaller amount then I would also recommend CloudSurfer although I'm not sure if his listings are back up.
If you need your MDMA in the next 1-2 weeks then you are going to have to order domestic and it will definitely cost you more. While I got my pack from CloudSurfer in under a week, transit times are up right now and with the holiday season approaching it might not get better until next year.
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There is too much crap in this thread. The thread is titled product review. I go through like 10 pages and all i see is crap and no review of the quality of the product. please can people start reviewing the product?
Im with ya. Anyways, product is excellent. Shipping for me only took 8 days to the US. Stealth is great from Dutch. Ill be coming back for sure.
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Just had to chime in again since its been awhile and there is a lot of junk in this thread.
Dutch is the dude for M.
A+ quality product
Exceptional vendor.
I'm patiently waiting for the return of this elite vendor.
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Listing are back up :)
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Listing are back up :)
WOOT! ;D
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After the order is market in transit; How long does Dutch usually take to send the tracking number?
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shipped on the 22nd.so that makes today day 16 :)
west coast ive been reading around 15-20ish
id do some dirty...unforgivable things to have it by friday :)
but if not i know it would be there the following week forsure
cant wait dutch <3
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I'm on day 15 of the waiting game.
Got some MDA comin' in tomorrow. Gonna (hopefully) mix up a trippy batch of rolls if this long bataan death march wait ever ends.
C'mon Dutch! Big bags no whammy's! :)
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no more 10g listing?
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no more 10g listing?
its already back :)
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placed an order yesterday hope it gets to me
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5th order w/o tracking (<50 g) came in 21 days. all orders have been btwn 21-24 days...so consistently slow at least! looks great, a bit darker than the last batch I got which was pretty white.
edit: Dutch I'm trying to finalize for ya, haven't been able to log on to SR for the past 30 min--will try again in an hour.
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has anyone every had dutch deliver to a p.o. box?
i want a ten gram order.. will it fit in a small p.o. box?
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Dutch Please cancel my order if you see this... I thought there was 5x the 10 gram listing in the cart but it was only 1!!!! I don't want it to look like I'm trying to get around FE and actually want it tracked so as soon as its cancelled I will order the right amount ;)
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has anyone every had dutch deliver to a p.o. box?
i want a ten gram order.. will it fit in a small p.o. box?
If something won't fit into a PO box then they usually have a solution for that, like holding it behind the counter or putting a key into the small box that will unlock a larger box (and keep the key). Anyway, "small" isn't a very precise unit of measure.
My experience is that PO boxes are more trouble than they are worth. They only raise suspicion and you still have to go pick up the package. The only reason to have a PO box that I can think of is if you live with your parents.
just my 2 cents of worthless wisdom.
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has anyone every had dutch deliver to a p.o. box?
i want a ten gram order.. will it fit in a small p.o. box?
If something won't fit into a PO box then they usually have a solution for that, like holding it behind the counter or putting a key into the small box that will unlock a larger box (and keep the key). Anyway, "small" isn't a very precise unit of measure.
My experience is that PO boxes are more trouble than they are worth. They only raise suspicion and you still have to go pick up the package. The only reason to have a PO box that I can think of is if you live with your parents.
just my 2 cents of worthless wisdom.
yeahhh.. but ..
i use it so my house doesnt get raided
if i get cought at the post office at least they dont know where i really live..
my address on my id is differnt then where i live so i think im good.. but hey to each his own.. if you dont have shit at ur house then its whatever..
i would do anything to keep my house from getting raided.. got kids and a family and shit..
got money and drugs..
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If you get done, they will always find out where you are living or have been living.
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If you get done, they will always find out where you are living or have been living.
yeah but by the time they find all that out everything will be moved..
i got a pretty good idea of what to do..
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dutch has done me good in the past, first 2 orders arrived in 7 days, next 2 took 3 weeks and one was an entire ounce short. when i told him he never responded. i tried 2 more orders so we will see what happens.
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If you get done, they will always find out where you are living or have been living.
yeah but by the time they find all that out everything will be moved..
i got a pretty good idea of what to do..
sounds as you think through better then 80% of people. but best is to never have contraband where you sleep. ;)
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I got 1 order and i'm getting ready to place another order. Super excited! 16 days last time, hopefully it won't take any longer this time what with the storm and whatnot.
Quality was incredible! can't wait for more. ;) Just like a few other people said, i got on and extended it so it wouldn't AF and the next day it showed up. I've got loads of confidence it DA's ability.
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has anyone every had dutch deliver to a p.o. box?
i want a ten gram order.. will it fit in a small p.o. box?
If something won't fit into a PO box then they usually have a solution for that, like holding it behind the counter or putting a key into the small box that will unlock a larger box (and keep the key). Anyway, "small" isn't a very precise unit of measure.
My experience is that PO boxes are more trouble than they are worth. They only raise suspicion and you still have to go pick up the package. The only reason to have a PO box that I can think of is if you live with your parents.
just my 2 cents of worthless wisdom.
yeahhh.. but ..
i use it so my house doesnt get raided
if i get cought at the post office at least they dont know where i really live..
my address on my id is differnt then where i live so i think im good.. but hey to each his own.. if you dont have shit at ur house then its whatever..
i would do anything to keep my house from getting raided.. got kids and a family and shit..
got money and drugs..
That's cool man, I'm glad you aren't using a PO box because you still live with mom and dad.
If you're in the US and don't have anything on your record then the chances of a controlled delivery are ridiculously low. I don't know of anyone in the US that's even gotten as much as a custom's letter for a package from dutch and he is shipping a lot of packages over here.
As another option though you might want to consider relocating your drugs to somewhere other than your home while waiting for the shipment. Just putting it out there as an idea.
Regardless, the PO box will probably work. If you get one at the post office then they either have bigger boxes for when your box is too small or at the very least they'll keep it behind the counter. As for third party businesses that do PO boxes the policy could be anything. Hell a mom and pop shop might be willing to accept packages for your po box with just your name and no po box number.
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Thinking of buying 10Gs off dutchannbod, but want to know what his packaging is like. Obviously not going into detail, but how does it rate for stealth. The best packaging i've ever got off SR was from skyy, it was genius to the point I thought I got scammed.
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dutch's stealth is pretty good. I haven't heard of anyone in the US getting a custom's letter and he's sent out a lot of packs.
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dutch has done me good in the past, first 2 orders arrived in 7 days, next 2 took 3 weeks and one was an entire ounce short. when i told him he never responded. i tried 2 more orders so we will see what happens.
you didnt get 28g? that seems quite ridiculous. possibly your scale is fucked? Either way i would be trippin
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Thinking of buying 10Gs off dutchannbod, but want to know what his packaging is like. Obviously not going into detail, but how does it rate for stealth. The best packaging i've ever got off SR was from skyy, it was genius to the point I thought I got scammed.
The packaging was very good and its inside a mailbox.
Packaging was stealth enough to make it to Australia.
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Dutch, you're the man!!
Took ~3 weeks. But Sandy came through to mess some shit up, so i'd imagine that adds a slight .
Review:
Product looks soo damn good, has a great slight sass smell.
It's beige/tan with a couple huge rocks, lots of little and powder.
Tested fantastic with all 3 reagents fizzing.
Weight was good.
Stealth shipping... :-X awesome!
Thanks again for the great deal, i'll be back dutch! ;D
Stay safe, and secure. 8)
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Placed an order with dutch for tracking and also a mistake for a small 10 gram order which I hope he sees and cancels!!! Really hoping for a quick delivery with the registered mail from DE... Last registered from there took 9 days.. different vendor but still.. this is my first time going tracked with Dutch and can't wait!!
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Order arrived after four weeks to a neighboring country. I highly recommend this seller!
You just have to be patient as fuck. Product is excellent. Thanks a lot DUTCHAANBOD!
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he is great he got are order to us fast and now we are placing.are second order soon.his is the man..
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day 19 on a small order, will update.
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hey everyone, does anyone know whats going on with dutch not posting to oz anymore?? i ordered 10g just over 3 wks ago now and nothing :( ive never not recieved a package and recieved one fine in 9 days from polland....really not feeling too confident about it coming. has anyone down under recieved theirs this week? thanks kk
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Day 10 on a domestic order. Dutch seems to be getting a LOT of business.
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Dutch is a Stand up guy... Order was only processing for about 8 hours before marked in transit... and he cancelled my mistake order when he could have just said he didnt see my message and added to to the order for an extra $200!! Thank you, can't wait for this shit to hit ISC!! 8 hours is also the fastest I've had in processing time with him ;)
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:( :(
i`m waiting for 7 days for my demestic order. thats very unusual. the regular delivery-time is 1-2 days!!. i hope, everything is ok because there are several other domestic custumers with the same problem.
@ DUTCH > did you send the packages out the same day as you mark it "in transit" or some days later? i hope the police will not knock on my door instead the postman.
Well someone about 2 posts up said his domestic took 10 days and he got it... a couple days ago another domestic took 7.... also figure when its marked in transit it most likely doesn't get into the post system for up to 2-4 days cause he moves the product over to where you domestic guys are ;)
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Unfortunately, it's been 10 days since the order was marked as 'in transit' and I'm still waiting for it to arrive. Several orders from foreign vendors have arrived in the meantime. I also talked to Dutch a couple days ago and he ensured me that my order should get in this week. I understand he's handling a high volume of orders (300+) and delays can happen. My advice would be to correct average shipping times, since it obviously takes longer than 2-4 days for domestic mail, in order to avoid customer confusion.
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ive thought about dutch marking things in transit. i believe he marks it in transit when its packed, but not yet moved to germany for shipping. so thats why it takes a little longer. im going to mention that dutch doesnt live in germany to my understanding its the netherlands. but does indeed ship from germany
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This is hilarious.
I commented on Dutch having too many orders and going about the same way SuperTrips did things.... Getting back logged etc and I got attacked. Went from -6 Karma to -16 or whatever i'm at right now.
And now its completely out in the open hes marking things in transit before they are actually sent in transit.
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This is hilarious.
I commented on Dutch having too many orders and going about the same way SuperTrips did things.... Getting back logged etc and I got attacked. Went from -6 Karma to -16 or whatever i'm at right now.
And now its completely out in the open hes marking things in transit before they are actually sent in transit.
So... when it leaves the storage/packout location... it is not in transit. When it is being moved via courier/car/train across an international border... it is not in transit. Only when it is handed off to the German postal service is it actually "in transit".
Your logic is most impressive.
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This is hilarious.
I commented on Dutch having too many orders and going about the same way SuperTrips did things.... Getting back logged etc and I got attacked. Went from -6 Karma to -16 or whatever i'm at right now.
And now its completely out in the open hes marking things in transit before they are actually sent in transit.
So... when it leaves the storage/packout location... it is not in transit. When it is being moved via courier/car/train across an international border... it is not in transit. Only when it is handed off to the German postal service is it actually "in transit".
Your logic is most impressive.
And your logic is lacking. I only stated a summary of things. It obviously is not that simple but the fact of the matter is this is exactly how the SuperTrips fiasco went down. You cannot deny this and you should put your foot back in your mouth.
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Dutch pulls his listings every so often to catch up... SuperTrips left his up until the admins took them down...
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Dutch pulls his listings every so often to catch up... SuperTrips left his up until the admins took them down...
Let's hope you're right. Maybe the recent connectivity issues with SR will help him catch up...
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Guess what I found in my mailbox yesterday evening? It finally arrived. Post mark is a day earlier, so it looks Dutch takes about 9 days from marking orders 'in transit' to actually dropping it in a mailbox. Besides all the complaining about delays, this is what 10g (actually 10,4g) look like:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/upload/669be7f14368baf9b2e9f215ed8ce33b.jpg
Those rocks are more than enough to make me forget the little delay. Thanks Dutch, you're the man!
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Guess what I found in my mailbox yesterday evening? It finally arrived. Post mark is a day earlier, so it looks Dutch takes about 9 days from marking orders 'in transit' to actually dropping it in a mailbox. Besides all the complaining about delays, this is what 10g (actually 10,4g) look like:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/upload/669be7f14368baf9b2e9f215ed8ce33b.jpg
Those rocks are more than enough to make me forget the little delay. Thanks Dutch, you're the man!
Can anyone confirm that this is true? Does he "mark in transit" before it actually is in transit?
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Guess what I found in my mailbox yesterday evening? It finally arrived. Post mark is a day earlier, so it looks Dutch takes about 9 days from marking orders 'in transit' to actually dropping it in a mailbox. Besides all the complaining about delays, this is what 10g (actually 10,4g) look like:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/upload/669be7f14368baf9b2e9f215ed8ce33b.jpg
Those rocks are more than enough to make me forget the little delay. Thanks Dutch, you're the man!
Can anyone confirm that this is true? Does he "mark in transit" before it actually is in transit?
I've never experienced any problems with Dutch.
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I really hope my last order for 50 grams was actually sent because it was marked in transit a day or two before the blackout... Fingers crossed this all gets worked out but if not and Dutch is still around I would still continue my business with ya via tormail if possible... meaning ya I trust him enough to send coin to a random BTC wallet!! If this is the end I really need that 50 to cover the loss of other funds on there but my first thought goes out to vendors and I can't even imagine what they have up in the air?? Let's go DPR!! :)
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Everyone settle down, SR just made a post explaining they have just been having technical difficulties. Everything is safe... No need to worry :)
As for my package with dutch today marks day 15 since marked in transit... Still waiting patiently hoping it gets here next week.
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just received package of mdma that i was waiting for :)
so what to say about dutchaanbod..
product looks really good, but not yet tested and not checked weight, if anything wrong there, i will update..
stealth packaging is first class, i guess even a broken envelope would not matter and the order would arrive safely.
communication is very good, fast and nice
shipping was not fast at all, but after i asked him by pm he told me that its because he has so many orders and cannot send all orders in one day. this sounds reasonable to me, and in fact, product arrived the next day.
so all in all, i definitely can recommend dutchaanbod!
@dutchaanbod:
I would like to finalize my order and give you the deserved 5/5 feedback, but cannot login right now.. hopefully it won't auto-finalize :-/
Thank you for nice business!
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does anyone know if the dutchaanbod on BMR is really him?
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The prices seem really good what is the quality like of the mdma?
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The prices seem really good what is the quality like of the mdma?
To be honest the vast majority of MDMA on SR is highly potent.
dutch sells a lot product and many different batches of MDMA and I'm not sure if anyone has complained about the quality of any of them. I've only received one pack from dutch. It isn't 100% pure as there is still some safrole in there but the stuff is potent. The ~1% of safrole left in there isn't a big deal. If I was a dealer it would be a plus because apparently people love the safrole as they associate it with real MDMA which actually makes a lot of sense.
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The prices seem really good what is the quality like of the mdma?
To be honest the vast majority of MDMA on SR is highly potent.
dutch sells a lot product and many different batches of MDMA and I'm not sure if anyone has complained about the quality of any of them. I've only received one pack from dutch. It isn't 100% pure as there is still some safrole in there but the stuff is potent. The ~1% of safrole left in there isn't a big deal. If I was a dealer it would be a plus because apparently people love the safrole as they associate it with real MDMA which actually makes a lot of sense.
Thank you for the excellent reply, very good info. Can't wait till the sites back up so I can give this a shot
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Finally got a chance to try my stuff (rock salt batch). Less than an hour in at 110 mgs, but can confirm that it's legit and quite lovely so far. Would for sure return, Dutch! Thanks!
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Domestic Order Arrived safely.
Total time since marked in Transit: 8 Days. Actual shipping time: 2 Days.
Ordered: 10g Received: 10,46g :D
Biggest crystal weighs 370mgs, and it looks like the batch thabarrt posted a picture of earlier.
I will test the product soon I guess, maybe next week and I will update on the quality.
I'm pretty happy, thanks dutch, what else can I say. Price is amazing, overweight is amazing, packaging is outstanding, only the slight delay in the shipping can be approved, but I don't want to complain, still 100/5. Everybody out there who is impatiently waiting for his/her package: Relax, the packaging is great, it will come through. Dutch may need some time to get the job done, but he get's it done.
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I can now state that I prefer this to Supertrips. 150 mgs gave me full out hazy brain and my beloved etch a sketch vision, whereas I didn't really reach that level with ST. Dutch you are a huge asset to the road and I hope you stick around!
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Hi Alll
we have no access to sr so wait with making orders...
People now a way how we can get access to SR it looks like its down ?
We send all order out max 1/2 days after its mark in transit that is because we have most time up to 300 package's so its not safe and not possibel to send theme all at one time..
Greats DA
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Btw All order that where already mark in transit are on the way :)
Greats DA
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Btw All order that where already mark in transit are on the way :)
Greats DA
Thats awesome to hear.. just took the plunge on 50 grams and should be another quick turn around... ;) Hopefully we can access the site soon but do you think you could send tracking numbers to the 50+ gram orders here so we know when to expect the packs Dutch! Thanks a lot man, and glad to hear from ya!
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does anyone know if the dutchaanbod on BMR is really him?
No that are we don its a scammer people have contacted me that the are scammed :)
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The prices seem really good what is the quality like of the mdma?
The price is fantastic, as is the quality.
Best MDMA I've ever seen. Light brown / tan crystals.
My largest crystal was 1.6g.
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does anyone know if the dutchaanbod on BMR is really him?
I believe he was forced to use Dutchanbod there (note the single a), because some faker stole his original name.
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Hi everybody,
I like all Dutch's terms, exception delivery. Has somebody used express shipping from Dutch?
Or it is possible to work only with standard post, which takes so much time.
Is n't better to use express shipping, when customer want his package to come fast and agree to pay for express delivery? But some vendors don't want to use it :-\.
PS Does somebody knows how long would package go to Ukraine?
Thank's
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I received my package a couple days ago, but SR is down so i can't go finalize. I've been spending about a collective 45min+ or so everday since i received trying to get on and so I can finalize!!!
Since I can't do that yet, might as well leave a review.
received in about 18 days all together after marked in transit. (No-coast USA)
Product is nice! Cream colored opaque crystals, not too many big chunks, but it's still rocks! Weighed on point.
Slight problem with the shipping though.
Product was double vac-sealed, but the first vac seal was broken through a little, causing some MDMA dust to spill out. I couldn't of lost much, but due to the nature of the stealth, I was unable to get it.
If i had lost any significant amount, i would try to contact Dutch about it, but it couldn't of been much at all. I'm more concerned with the security factor.
All in all i give him a 5/5, the shipping issue, albeit an issue, is still pretty minor.
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Awesome I can't wait to place my order once sr is back up!!
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2 x 20 gram orders both on day 34 to different address haven't arrived and will auto finalize within 12 hours :'( :-\
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Waiting on 100g order, on day 32 since being marked in transit. Keeping my fingers crossed, but it is not looking good :'(
I am still in escrow because the tracking number didn't work (sometimes this happens). Waiting for silk road to come back up so I can send Dutch a pm to see what kind of resolution will be available.
Will keep you guys updated. Wish me luck!
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we have had good and bad experiences with dutch. first few packs arrived in about 7 days which was excellent. 3rd package showed to the wrong address and was 30 grams short! 4th pack never showed at all about its about 45 days in. waiting on 5th pack about 3 + weeks in. always great customer service until we asked about the missing 30 grams and never got a response. i feel confident his re shipper is fucking people. either way he is marking packs in transit when they are not in transit. i have seen postmarks where there was a 1 week difference between marked in transit and shipped. his product and prices are fucking excellent and his shipping is of good safety but dammit waiting 3,4,5 weeks is fucked up andmissing 30 grams on 1 order is also fucked up as well as a pack going to a previous address. just my 2cents everyone.
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Received from dutch last night. 40g to midwest US in I think about 16 day? Hard to say since SR has been down so long. Packaging was legit and passed all reagent tests although not as good as some other vendors I've had, no wisp or anything with marquis. Could have been much more bigger rocks but it weighed out fine and I tested last night at a show and it was super mellow.
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I have been waiting on a 30gr pack that has been sitting in New York ISC since October 26th.. For some reason I am not very hopeful about it.
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I have been waiting on a 30gr pack that has been sitting in New York ISC since October 26th.. For some reason I am not very hopeful about it.
I don't know why you aren't hopeful. Very common to not see packages until weeks after that NY ISC scan. The package could easily show up on Tuesday. Don't expect it tomorrow though: federal holiday.
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It isn't entirely uncommon to see a package in customs for a few months until they seemingly randomly finally send it to you. I would personally give it 40 days total transit time before i started worrying too much.
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Waiting on 100g order, on day 32 since being marked in transit. Keeping my fingers crossed, but it is not looking good :'(
I am still in escrow because the tracking number didn't work (sometimes this happens). Waiting for silk road to come back up so I can send Dutch a pm to see what kind of resolution will be available.
Will keep you guys updated. Wish me luck!
that's really strange, could it be possible that he gave you a wrong tracking number?
I have been waiting on a 30gr pack that has been sitting in New York ISC since October 26th.. For some reason I am not very hopeful about it.
How do you know that it's been sitting in NY ISC?? He doesn't give out tracking numbers for orders less than 30g.
we have had good and bad experiences with dutch. first few packs arrived in about 7 days which was excellent. 3rd package showed to the wrong address and was 30 grams short! 4th pack never showed at all about its about 45 days in. waiting on 5th pack about 3 + weeks in. always great customer service until we asked about the missing 30 grams and never got a response. i feel confident his re shipper is fucking people. either way he is marking packs in transit when they are not in transit. i have seen postmarks where there was a 1 week difference between marked in transit and shipped. his product and prices are fucking excellent and his shipping is of good safety but dammit waiting 3,4,5 weeks is fucked up andmissing 30 grams on 1 order is also fucked up as well as a pack going to a previous address. just my 2cents everyone.
I don't believe this dude for some reason...maybe he's trolling on dutch's page since he's a domestic USA vendor and trying to get peep's to by from him and not dutch. He claims that he has Super Trips MDMA so why would he make 5 purchases from Dutch? Also, this guy is saying that his pack went to a previous address? WTF!! That means that he doesn't discard addresses after sending? This just seems too hard too believe, especially since this dude is a vendor...I sent this guy a message a 2 months ago about a large domestic order and he just replied to me tellin me how how he's getting some of Super Trips MDMA when NOBODY has been getting shit from ST and now I see this post by him on the forums saying that dutch is not trustworthy!!??! That just seems really shady IMO. look at all the orders that have been successful in the last few months..hardly ever does a tracked order gets lost! IDK maybe I'm just crazy but what does everyone else think about this???
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I believe I asked for and paid extra for tracking.
Thanks for the input guys, I'll keep watching for it. I have a private vendor in NL and his boxes usually get here in 7-14 days. So I'm not use to the huge delay.
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This last page or two has me a bit worried. I was not worried before because it seemed like everyone was receiving, some were just taking a long time, but most were not past 28 days. I really need this to come, so I am hoping that one of the recent replies here about the one buyer sounding shady is true and that he hasn't ordered 4 failed packages. It does strike me as odd that he would keep ordering, 4 times, after the previous 2-3 major issues.
With that said he is not the only one posting about not receiving.
Anyways, quick question, how long do your tracked packages start showing up in USPS after your order has been marked "in transit"? Not after receiving the tracking #, I mean only after being marked in transit.
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HE IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD...has the fastest delivery time GREAT molly.and a joy to work with..really knows how to treat the ladys
we all love his work..we cant wait to place NEW order asap... :-*
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Anyways, quick question, how long do your tracked packages start showing up in USPS after your order has been marked "in transit"? Not after receiving the tracking #, I mean only after being marked in transit.
I believe it took around 5-7 days for my tracking to start working.
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all i can say is i have no reason to lie about this. i dont want anyone to buy from me and not dutch. as it is now we cant keep enough stock to supply people cause stuff just isnt showing up. we have gotten 2 packs from ducth that arrived in 1 week and these were the first 2 packs under 100gs. one order lately we were shorted 30grams and i believe we are waiting on 2 or 3 orders now which have not arrived also we have 2 from another vendor f16 which have not arrived one of them being somewhere around 3-4 weeks now. we have had a large ordershow from ST and we have had 300 tabs and mdma not show up at all when we paid an extra 150$ for express shipping and never got tracking or anything. never even got a response to our messages. we also have a tracked order in with afterhour which we arestill waiting on. wehave got orders from vitacat and juergen in about 7 days everytime. we have a total of about 5 or 6 orders out now and the latest one is way over 40 days from dutch and we are not expecting it at all. unfortunately in the business of buying from overseas and re-selling our options of suppliers are limited so we have to do what we have to do to make money and sometimes that means ordering from a vendor whos package didnt showup. it sucks dick but it is what it is. hopefully things start showing up so we can open back up and supply folks with the best for the lowest prices on the road. we have 100% positive feedback and are one of the most professional and honest vendors here on the road and do not appreciate your accusations we will let our product, prices and customer service speak for themselves. read our feedback, it all says the best vendor on the road. it speaks for itself. we are not here to take business from dutch or anyone. he has supplied us with fucking excellent product at an excellent price as have ST but lately we have not been getting packs and one was 30gs short and those are the facts. this was a review thread about dutch and we were giving our experience with him.
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This last page or two has me a bit worried. I was not worried before because it seemed like everyone was receiving, some were just taking a long time, but most were not past 28 days. I really need this to come, so I am hoping that one of the recent replies here about the one buyer sounding shady is true and that he hasn't ordered 4 failed packages. It does strike me as odd that he would keep ordering, 4 times, after the previous 2-3 major issues.
With that said he is not the only one posting about not receiving.
Anyways, quick question, how long do your tracked packages start showing up in USPS after your order has been marked "in transit"? Not after receiving the tracking #, I mean only after being marked in transit.
My last order took 16 days from being marked "in transit". However, I wasn't able to check the post stamp on the package to see if it was actually sent when marked "in transit". I also believe that all the people claiming no shows are all orders under 100g...so that means no tracking. Possible scammers?? IDK but I hear his packaging is some of the best on SR. It took him about 6 days or so to give me tracking number...about 2 days later it showed up in NYC..at sat there for a few days.Hope this helps.
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My package came today but i cant get on SR. unfortunately however I ordered 30g (10gx3) and only got 10g. Im sure dutch will sort this out though
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I believe I asked for and paid extra for tracking.
Thanks for the input guys, I'll keep watching for it. I have a private vendor in NL and his boxes usually get here in 7-14 days. So I'm not use to the huge delay.
That is bullish it we never use tracking for under the 50gr even not when you ask for it or pay for it :)
DA
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BTW don send me pm over the forum i can check noting over here wait till SR is back online if you have any problems...
Dutchaanbod
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Was really starting to worry but I got my 40g pack to the Midwest USA. Received it on day 24. Tested with Mecke, Marquis, Simmons and it all checked out fine. Package was mostly crystaly powder sort of grayish in color with a few finger nail sized rocks and smaller. Packaging was good and double vacuum sealed but one of the inner seals was broken. Stealth was alright but not mind blowing. In terms of personal experience I tried it out and thought it was clean and good but I feel like Sesampino's may be a little bit more potent but I'll know better when I try it more.
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Until today i placed 4 orders with Dutch. All 4 are received. I had coke and 3 times mdma. I really like the mdma, especially for this price it is absolutely unbeatable. The only mdma i had from the road which was better than this was from ST when he was still cool.
The last order took some days longer as the others but I think this is because of the shipping from germany and safety reasons so im cool with that. Just order before running out of stock...
Greetings 8)
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just wanted to give a shout out to the #1 mdma supplier on SR!! your a legend dutch and the best that has ever been here. fuck the 2% of haters. they are just scamming fucks. you deserve 101% feedback. your a boss!
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Ordered 30. Okt.
Nothing arrived yet with domestic shipping. I'm pretty nervous that nothing will arrive :( And I can't talk to Dutchaanbod till Silkroad is back online.
EDIT: Arrived TODAY LOL. Okay I'm happy
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I believe I asked for and paid extra for tracking.
Thanks for the input guys, I'll keep watching for it. I have a private vendor in NL and his boxes usually get here in 7-14 days. So I'm not use to the huge delay.
That is bullish it we never use tracking for under the 50gr even not when you ask for it or pay for it :)
DA
I want to do a 100g order. But i have no idea if i can sign for the tracking with my current drop. I would like to do a small order and see if everything works out fine with signing.
Does anyone know if Dutchaanbod uses the same tracking service as afterhour?
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I believe I asked for and paid extra for tracking.
Thanks for the input guys, I'll keep watching for it. I have a private vendor in NL and his boxes usually get here in 7-14 days. So I'm not use to the huge delay.
That is bullish it we never use tracking for under the 50gr even not when you ask for it or pay for it :)
DA
I want to do a 100g order. But i have no idea if i can sign for the tracking with my current drop. I would like to do a small order and see if everything works out fine with signing.
Does anyone know if Dutchaanbod uses the same tracking service as afterhour?
When it comes to international tracking through the post, registered and express mail are the only way to do it and signing for both work the same way.
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100 gram order received to eastern U.S. in just under 3 weeks. Stealth was good, weight was spot on and quality is on par with all the other main MDMA vendors I've received from like Ah, ST, Skyy, and others. I've already put in another order. Dutch you da man!!!!
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That is bullish it we never use tracking for under the 50gr even not when you ask for it or pay for it :)
DA
Then why did you send me a message with a tracking number? Did you accidentally send me someone elses tracking number? I still have the message saved on my account and can resend it back to you..
My order was only 10gr x 3 = 30gr total. i will censor the city sent from for privacy:
Processed Through Sort Facility
October 26, 2012, 11:07 am
ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)
Registered Mailâ„¢
Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
Processed Through Sort Facility
October 25, 2012, 3:26 am
***************, GERMANY
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Do you have a new batch? If yes, is it stronger than the last one I ordered (september)?
Does someone have some recent pics?
Thanks. :D
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Anyone receive a package from Dutch that came after 35+ days since being marked in transit? I have a 100g order that is currently on day 33 since being marked in transit. I don't think it will be coming, but was looking for some hope here on the forums :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Curious as to why Germany shipments always take so much longer when the vendors get big. Have gotten 3 packages from XTC Express in under 10 days total in the past 2 weeks. Going on day 23 with a 100g+ order with Dutch and the tracking number he has given me hasnt even been updated once. Still says that tracking information isnt available through the website.
Frustrating ?:( Can't FE for Dutch when it hits customs because I have no idea when it will!
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The last package I received from Germany with tracking took a total of 42 days to reach me state side.
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WOW!! 40+ days to receive your order...Duchaanbods prices is what attracted me but to wait that long for shipment??? I think I rather pay a little more and maybe look into XTCEXPRESS????Still not completely sure who I want to go with yet out of the two, but I know waiting 40 days is out of the question, I'm reasonable but come on.....
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The way I see it, if you have to wait 40 days for you package (I mean I hope not 40, but I'm sitting at day 17 at the moment) it's just going to be that much better and that much more exciting when it does come..
For the price he's selling it at, I can't see how you want to go elsewhere just to save a couple days ship time... it'll be over before you know it.
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It sucks waiting for a package, but it sucks even more when you don't have any packages to wait on.
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just thought id let everyone know (since everyone does) i received mine in ten days including the weekend..the stuff was a dodgy grey colour which scared me,but after personally testing it my fear was gone very nice stuff and slept like a baby after,cant say the same for my mates who were as i like to say tripping balls all night,thanks dutch 8)
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just thought id let everyone know (since everyone does) i received mine in ten days including the weekend..the stuff was a dodgy grey colour which scared me,but after personally testing it my fear was gone very nice stuff and slept like a baby after,cant say the same for my mates who were as i like to say tripping balls all night,thanks dutch 8)
How much did you order?
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This last page or two has me a bit worried. I was not worried before because it seemed like everyone was receiving, some were just taking a long time, but most were not past 28 days. I really need this to come, so I am hoping that one of the recent replies here about the one buyer sounding shady is true and that he hasn't ordered 4 failed packages. It does strike me as odd that he would keep ordering, 4 times, after the previous 2-3 major issues.
With that said he is not the only one posting about not receiving.
Anyways, quick question, how long do your tracked packages start showing up in USPS after your order has been marked "in transit"? Not after receiving the tracking #, I mean only after being marked in transit.
My last order took 16 days from being marked "in transit". However, I wasn't able to check the post stamp on the package to see if it was actually sent when marked "in transit". I also believe that all the people claiming no shows are all orders under 100g...so that means no tracking. Possible scammers?? IDK but I hear his packaging is some of the best on SR. It took him about 6 days or so to give me tracking number...about 2 days later it showed up in NYC..at sat there for a few days.Hope this helps.
Thanks, yes this helps a bit. It has been longer than this for me but I am not worried yet. I am hoping if it is going to arrive that it won't take 40+ days, that would suck. Wouldn't most, if not all, international mail coming into the US have been affected by hurricane Sandy since it all appears to go through NY first (where Sandy hit)? Or are there people here that have ordered and had mail go through NY already after Sandy had hit?
Another question I have is the appearance / quality of the MDMA. I think I had asked Dutch not to long ago about differences in batch I am getting and he said that it is all the same and all from the same batch. If this is true why are people reporting much different appearance in color, from white, clean to grey and even tan (I think)? I don't think it matters that much but I am curious about the difference, especially since it is all supposed to be the same batch (guessing one extremely large batch).
For those that are currently receiving your orders, would you mind making a simple post stating roughly the amount you ordered, how long it took from when it was marked "in transit", region where it was shipped, appearance of product, and any conclusions you might be able to make from your experience. But at least the first three. I am only interested in US orders, but it will probably be helpful to others not in the US for everyone to reply with this info.
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I've ordered 4 packages from Dutchaanbod. 2 of them have come in with the longest one being 28 days. Although the longest i've waited for a package from Germany has been 42 days. I have no doubt that these last 2 packages are on their way.
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just thought id let everyone know (since everyone does) i received mine in ten days including the weekend..the stuff was a dodgy grey colour which scared me,but after personally testing it my fear was gone very nice stuff and slept like a baby after,cant say the same for my mates who were as i like to say tripping balls all night,thanks dutch 8)
How much did you order?
10g's 8)
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You guys with orders taking over a month to deliver... did the tracking ever work? If so was it sitting in customs for an extended amount of time? Seems really strange that any package could take that long to be delivered.
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just thought id let everyone know (since everyone does) i received mine in ten days including the weekend..the stuff was a dodgy grey colour which scared me,but after personally testing it my fear was gone very nice stuff and slept like a baby after,cant say the same for my mates who were as i like to say tripping balls all night,thanks dutch 8)
How much did you order?
10g's 8)
Was it your first order? I plan on ordering 10gs, this will be my first order ever..I have read people say order small your first few times...Well to me 10gs is not really a whole lot seeing as how I ultimately plan on ordering bulk
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just thought id let everyone know (since everyone does) i received mine in ten days including the weekend..the stuff was a dodgy grey colour which scared me,but after personally testing it my fear was gone very nice stuff and slept like a baby after,cant say the same for my mates who were as i like to say tripping balls all night,thanks dutch 8)
How much did you order?
10g's 8)
Was it your first order? I plan on ordering 10gs, this will be my first order ever..I have read people say order small your first few times...Well to me 10gs is not really a whole lot seeing as how I ultimately plan on ordering bulk
I say order 50g so that you get tracking.
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50gs my very first order?
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50gs my very first order?
That's what I did. I regret I didn't order 100g instead though.
That's just the decision I made for me because tracking is important to me. dutch says that the tracked packs almost always arrive, much more than the non-tracked packs. Maybe that's because people are trying to scam dutch or maybe something else. I don't know. But when the pack is tracked it helps the buyer and vendor trust each other.
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I can understand the importance of tracking but did you have to sign for it?
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I can understand the importance of tracking but did you have to sign for it?
Yes. Not sure what country you are in but here in the US I'm convinced a signature makes absolutely zero difference as to the chances of getting busted. Besides that, I haven't heard of anyone getting even a letter from custom's for an order from dutch.
If you aren't home to sign for the package (or if you just don't answer the door I guess) then you can go to the post office and sign for it the next day or request redelivery. They are supposed to request ID but I don't see a big deal with that either. Using a false name is a good way to draw attention to your package ... in fact they might return the package instead of delivering it if the post office sees the name isn't right.
This is just my opinion from years of personal experience and reading the experiences of others.
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I am also in the US...
Thanks for the info!
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I believe there is a better chance of a package showing with tracking because it holds the postal office accountable if it goes missing! When your pack is untracked it is vulnerable to theft (especially in the US!) and also just no paper trail... I have had no problem with Dutch non-tracked but got in a tracked order right before SR went down and Dutch said all those shipped so I am one happy camper! ;)
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ordered 10g's about a week or so ago. I cant wait for it to come. Hows the quality of the product?
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ordered 10g's about a week or so ago. I cant wait for it to come. Hows the quality of the product?
a little variation between batches
but quality has never warranted a complaint in any of them
I ordered 10gs a while back, it was some pretty killer shit, I'm hoping to pick up at least an ounce as soon as I can get Silk Road to work
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dutch has some of the best packing ive seen but i dont understand whats happening..
5 previous successful orders with dutch (never longer than 14 days), currently have 3 orders in transit with dutch, all to different addresses.
2 orders are at 35 days, other at 24 days. i honestly dont think they are coming..
during 35 days of transit from the above orders i have received 5 orders from 2 different german vendors all within 12 days.
i just dont understand :(
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just thought id let everyone know (since everyone does) i received mine in ten days including the weekend..the stuff was a dodgy grey colour which scared me,but after personally testing it my fear was gone very nice stuff and slept like a baby after,cant say the same for my mates who were as i like to say tripping balls all night,thanks dutch 8)
How much did you order?
10g's 8)
Was it your first order? I plan on ordering 10gs, this will be my first order ever..I have read people say order small your first few times...Well to me 10gs is not really a whole lot seeing as how I ultimately plan on ordering bulk
yea was my first from dutch wasnt too sure what to expect so 10 seemed good to start with..i see people saying get more for the tracking but personally i dont like the sound of signing for it once the pen hits the paper thats all the wiggle room out the window..altho it does seem to work 8)
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How do i get in touch with Dutchaanbod?
I ordered 100g thursday, and havn't got the chance to see if it were in transit or not. I just want to hear from Dutchaanbod, becourse this shit seriously freaks me out (the site down and all..)
So Dutchaanbod, if you see this, feel free to pm me ;)
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just thought id let everyone know (since everyone does) i received mine in ten days including the weekend..the stuff was a dodgy grey colour which scared me,but after personally testing it my fear was gone very nice stuff and slept like a baby after,cant say the same for my mates who were as i like to say tripping balls all night,thanks dutch 8)
How much did you order?
10g's 8)
Was it your first order? I plan on ordering 10gs, this will be my first order ever..I have read people say order small your first few times...Well to me 10gs is not really a whole lot seeing as how I ultimately plan on ordering bulk
yea was my first from dutch wasnt too sure what to expect so 10 seemed good to start with..i see people saying get more for the tracking but personally i dont like the sound of signing for it once the pen hits the paper thats all the wiggle room out the window..altho it does seem to work 8)
People get busted for having drugs shipped to homes that have drugs. They get a warrant (if needed.... probably not needed if you're on parole) and search your house. Unless you have a drug conviction or something though they aren't going to do that but instead you will get a letter. The signature makes no difference.
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just thought id let everyone know (since everyone does) i received mine in ten days including the weekend..the stuff was a dodgy grey colour which scared me,but after personally testing it my fear was gone very nice stuff and slept like a baby after,cant say the same for my mates who were as i like to say tripping balls all night,thanks dutch 8)
How much did you order?
10g's 8)
Was it your first order? I plan on ordering 10gs, this will be my first order ever..I have read people say order small your first few times...Well to me 10gs is not really a whole lot seeing as how I ultimately plan on ordering bulk
yea was my first from dutch wasnt too sure what to expect so 10 seemed good to start with..i see people saying get more for the tracking but personally i dont like the sound of signing for it once the pen hits the paper thats all the wiggle room out the window..altho it does seem to work 8)
People get busted for having drugs shipped to homes that have drugs. They get a warrant (if needed.... probably not needed if you're on parole) and search your house. Unless you have a drug conviction or something though they aren't going to do that but instead you will get a letter. The signature makes no difference.
ill probably bite the bullet soon enough,still freaks me out the thought of signing 8)
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ill probably bite the bullet soon enough,still freaks me out the thought of signing 8)
Well, all of that said I can't really blame you for being cautious.
If you do get a signed shipment and you're paranoid then just don't answer the door and go pick it up at the post office a few days later.
Oh and be nice to your mailman and give him a Christmas tip. I figure having your mailman like you is probably a good thing.
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ill probably bite the bullet soon enough,still freaks me out the thought of signing 8)
Well, all of that said I can't really blame you for being cautious.
If you do get a signed shipment and you're paranoid then just don't answer the door and go pick it up at the post office a few days later.
Oh and be nice to your mailman and give him a Christmas tip. I figure having your mailman like you is probably a good thing.
yea think id trust my mailman more than the people at the post office..a wee birdie told me when your package is undelivered it gets checked at the national returns center,iv also been told during christmas nearly every package gets check so thats jus a friendly heads up so we can all get our presents stocked up till january.think i might give my mailman a special cake 8)
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Check every package during Christmas?? I don't think so....
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dutch has some of the best packing ive seen but i dont understand whats happening..
5 previous successful orders with dutch (never longer than 14 days), currently have 3 orders in transit with dutch, all to different addresses.
2 orders are at 35 days, other at 24 days. i honestly dont think they are coming..
during 35 days of transit from the above orders i have received 5 orders from 2 different german vendors all within 12 days.
i just dont understand :(
are any of these orders tracked?
just thought id let everyone know (since everyone does) i received mine in ten days including the weekend..the stuff was a dodgy grey colour which scared me,but after personally testing it my fear was gone very nice stuff and slept like a baby after,cant say the same for my mates who were as i like to say tripping balls all night,thanks dutch 8)
How much did you order?
10g's 8)
Was it your first order? I plan on ordering 10gs, this will be my first order ever..I have read people say order small your first few times...Well to me 10gs is not really a whole lot seeing as how I ultimately plan on ordering bulk
yea was my first from dutch wasnt too sure what to expect so 10 seemed good to start with..i see people saying get more for the tracking but personally i dont like the sound of signing for it once the pen hits the paper thats all the wiggle room out the window..altho it does seem to work 8)
People get busted for having drugs shipped to homes that have drugs. They get a warrant (if needed.... probably not needed if you're on parole) and search your house. Unless you have a drug conviction or something though they aren't going to do that but instead you will get a letter. The signature makes no difference.
How sure are you of this ?
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Check every package during Christmas?? I don't think so....
i said nearly every package..if its undelivered mail it will be getting checked over christmas in the uk anyway the royal mail took on hundreds of temporary staff to do this exact job..im jus giving a heads up to everyone. 8)
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When Dutch propose tracking, does it mean that order send by express shipping?
Have somebody ordered Dutch's products by express shipping?
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When Dutch propose tracking, does it mean that order send by express shipping?
Have somebody ordered Dutch's products by express shipping?
Guys.. Before (!) ordering something: Always look at the main site from the vendor.
Dutch wrote that every package will be shipped by express.
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My package has arrived today, almost 15 days after being marked in transit (to eu).
Unfortunately i can't release the fund and I fear that my order is going to AF :-(
Haven't tried it yet, but it was all powder, no crystals, maybe postal service fault?
EDIT: Forgot to add that i ordered 10g of mdma.
Bak
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I too have received orders that I cannot finalize. I'm sure vendors know this, good for you on being honest. DPR has said that any issues to where you cannot be on SR to finalize and it auto-finalizes, contact SR support when it is up and they will take care of it. You will then not have to deal with auto-finalize points against you.
+1 to you Bakura for honesty and integrity
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When Dutch propose tracking, does it mean that order send by express shipping?
Have somebody ordered Dutch's products by express shipping?
Guys.. Before (!) ordering something: Always look at the main site from the vendor.
Dutch wrote that every package will be shipped by express.
I can't look at dutch's vendor page right now since SR is down but I'm quite certain that dutch is NOT sending packages express mail. 50g+ is sent by registered mail but not by express mail.
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My package has arrived today, almost 15 days after being marked in transit (to eu).
Unfortunately i can't release the fund and I fear that my order is going to AF :-(
Haven't tried it yet, but it was all powder, no crystals, maybe postal service fault?
EDIT: Forgot to add that i ordered 10g of mdma.
Bak
I wouldn't stress out until you've tried it or marquis tested it. Depending on the size of your order the vendors sometimes give you powder so it doesn't seem as suspicious. Powder can be flattened to seem like a thick pad of paper whereas crystals in an envelope would be very suspicious.
I'd say 60% of MDMA packages I have gotten have been in powder form.
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When Dutch propose tracking, does it mean that order send by express shipping?
Have somebody ordered Dutch's products by express shipping?
Guys.. Before (!) ordering something: Always look at the main site from the vendor.
Dutch wrote that every package will be shipped by express.
I can't look at dutch's vendor page right now since SR is down but I'm quite certain that dutch is NOT sending packages express mail. 50g+ is sent by registered mail but not by express mail.
Dutch has a vendors account on BMR and he has the EXACT same listings and wording on his profile.
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When Dutch propose tracking, does it mean that order send by express shipping?
Have somebody ordered Dutch's products by express shipping?
Guys.. Before (!) ordering something: Always look at the main site from the vendor.
Dutch wrote that every package will be shipped by express.
I can't look at dutch's vendor page right now since SR is down but I'm quite certain that dutch is NOT sending packages express mail. 50g+ is sent by registered mail but not by express mail.
Dutch has a vendors account on BMR and he has the EXACT same listings and wording on his profile.
Just of quick mention that account is a scam account and not owned by dutch. Just want to mention this so that people don't go over to BMR and place an order.
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Yea second the BMR thing... Dutch said awhile back that was a scammer and he will only be conducting business on the road!!!Be vary of scams like this and vendors with the same name popping up on BMR as I am sure some will take the opportunity to try and fool people!
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Yea second the BMR thing... Dutch said awhile back that was a scammer and he will only be conducting business on the road!!!Be vary of scams like this and vendors with the same name popping up on BMR as I am sure some will take the opportunity to try and fool people!
Wow, that is excellent info. Being a new vendor, I took a look at BMR just feeling out other options in case our worse fears happen and noticed a few vendors (or supposed) that I saw on SR.
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I'm glad both of my orders from Dutch were marked in transit before SR went down :)
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I wanted to take a second to say that straight up, Dutch is a selective scammer. Too many of his packages don't make it through, and the ones that don't aren't tracked.
Total bullshit. He's this close to going the way of SuperTrips.
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've ordered at 02.11 was un added on 4.11 to ship un came up today is nothing domestic, I am beginning to wonder what's going on because sedungen of other providers are already there langs
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Pack arrived today:)
20 days to SE US.
Brilliant stealth packaging.
Weight is .2 over:)
About 50% crystal, rest is sandy rocks.
Unable to sample at this time.
Honestly, I'd decided this would be my one and only purchase from Dutch due to long wait.
After seeing the unreal stealth packaging I'm forced to re-order because no way that pack doesn't get through every time.
Thanks Dutch! I'll finalize as soon as SR comes back up.
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Pack arrived today:)
20 days to SE US.
Brilliant stealth packaging.
Weight is .2 over:)
About 50% crystal, rest is sandy rocks.
Unable to sample at this time.
Honestly, I'd decided this would be my one and only purchase from Dutch due to long wait.
After seeing the unreal stealth packaging I'm forced to re-order because no way that pack doesn't get through every time.
Thanks Dutch! I'll finalize as soon as SR comes back up.
Good to hear....If you don't mind me asking, how much did u order?
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Finally arrived today. Exactly 42 days after being marked in transit. I'm in the Midwest by the way. Damn Post.....
Packaging is clever: the best I've seen on SR so far. The product looks delicious. Mostly crystal looking shards and some salty looking powder.
Will be definitely ordering again soon. Hopefully this time it comes a bit quicker.
Anyone know when SR will be back online? I only have two days until auto finalize...
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WOOHOO!!!!
Package arrived today! OMG, Dutch, I seriously want to tongue kiss you right now.
Brilliant packaging! Took forever to get to western US, but worth the wait.
Once the road is back up I'll gladly finalize, and place the next order
After 2 previous scams, you've renewed my faith in mankind
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soo today approx 23 days in transit i opened my mailbox and nearly had a heart attack
it was here
ripped that bitch open and laughed at the stealth..no ones gonna pick this up
anyways
product. weighed with bag and it was 12.7
so im sure its at least 10+
cooool cant wait to test this shit out i dont have a testing kit but ill take everyones word on here that its fire.
popped my SR cherry right :)
your a legend ill be back for more when this is gone
west coast usa..btw
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Finally arrived today. Exactly 42 days after being marked in transit. I'm in the Midwest by the way. Damn Post.....
Packaging is clever: the best I've seen on SR so far. The product looks delicious. Mostly crystal looking shards and some salty looking powder.
Will be definitely ordering again soon. Hopefully this time it comes a bit quicker.
Anyone know when SR will be back online? I only have two days until auto finalize...
Wow...you just gave me so much hope. I'm on day 35 on 100g order to the East Coast. Glad to hear people are receiving their packs even after 40 days.
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When Dutch propose tracking, does it mean that order send by express shipping?
Have somebody ordered Dutch's products by express shipping?
Guys.. Before (!) ordering something: Always look at the main site from the vendor.
Dutch wrote that every package will be shipped by express.
I can't look at dutch's vendor page right now since SR is down but I'm quite certain that dutch is NOT sending packages express mail. 50g+ is sent by registered mail but not by express mail.
Dutch has a vendors account on BMR and he has the EXACT same listings and wording on his profile.
I tel it for one more time we don use BMR....
if you order there don come complain by me you receive noting like people do :|
About orders we don do orders now so don send me message's about it wait till sr is back online :)
Dutchaanbod
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I wanted to take a second to say that straight up, Dutch is a selective scammer. Too many of his packages don't make it through, and the ones that don't aren't tracked.
Total bullshit. He's this close to going the way of SuperTrips.
Our overall arrive rate is more then 90%....
So that is bullshit....
DUtchaanbod
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I wanted to take a second to say that straight up, Dutch is a selective scammer. Too many of his packages don't make it through, and the ones that don't aren't tracked.
Total bullshit. He's this close to going the way of SuperTrips.
Our overall arrive rate is more then 90%....
So that is bullshit....
DUtchaanbod
It is good to see that vendors are still alive and kicking despite the outage. Then again... before the pfand fiasco you were bombing the fcking blocks so I'm not surprised.
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I'm still waiting for my package. It was marked "in transit" on 4.11.
Its domestic and nothing arrived yet.
It was a 10g Order and my first Order from Dutch.
so long..
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I was kinda worried about ordering from Dutchaanbod because of some of the things said about home selective scamming and long shipping times...But I'm going to order from him as soon as I can access SR, gotta give him a chance..I hope it works out so I can keep ordering more ;)
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I wanted to take a second to say that straight up, Dutch is a selective scammer. Too many of his packages don't make it through, and the ones that don't aren't tracked.
Total bullshit. He's this close to going the way of SuperTrips.
Shut the fuck up. I'm wondering how you could find this community..
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I finally received my pack today. It was processed thru New York ISC on October 26th. I received today November 14th. This is to Midwest USA (Great Lakes region to be more exact).
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I wanted to take a second to say that straight up, Dutch is a selective scammer. Too many of his packages don't make it through, and the ones that don't aren't tracked.
Total bullshit. He's this close to going the way of SuperTrips.
Our overall arrive rate is more then 90%....
So that is bullshit....
DUtchaanbod
I agree with Dutch
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I wanted to take a second to say that straight up, Dutch is a selective scammer. Too many of his packages don't make it through, and the ones that don't aren't tracked.
Total bullshit. He's this close to going the way of SuperTrips.
Our overall arrive rate is more then 90%....
So that is bullshit....
DUtchaanbod
I got 10g in 17 days. Some people got 50g in 20 days. Some people got 5g in 30 days. Post is random and highly inconsistent and there are so many factors that go into why something takes a long time. I've had packages from the UK arrive in 4 days and I've had packages sent within the US (I'm in the US) that took 15 days.
DUTCH IS NOT A SELECTIVE SCAMMER, YOU PEOPLE JUST NEED TO BE PATIENT! GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT!
Impatience is a hallmark of SR users. Obviously SR has been down for a week and look at all the people that are insulting Dread Pirate Roberts and complaining that he is scamming or not working hard enough to get things going again. People need to mellow out and stop thinking about it. The more negativity we introduce to SR the more it diminishes the greatness of SR....this includes top quality vendors like Dutchaanbod
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I wanted to take a second to say that straight up, Dutch is a selective scammer. Too many of his packages don't make it through, and the ones that don't aren't tracked.
Total bullshit. He's this close to going the way of SuperTrips.
Our overall arrive rate is more then 90%....
So that is bullshit....
DUtchaanbod
I got 10g in 17 days. Some people got 50g in 20 days. Some people got 5g in 30 days. Post is random and highly inconsistent and there are so many factors that go into why something takes a long time. I've had packages from the UK arrive in 4 days and I've had packages sent within the US (I'm in the US) that took 15 days.
DUTCH IS NOT A SELECTIVE SCAMMER, YOU PEOPLE JUST NEED TO BE PATIENT! GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT!
Impatience is a hallmark of SR users. Obviously SR has been down for a week and look at all the people that are insulting Dread Pirate Roberts and complaining that he is scamming or not working hard enough to get things going again. People need to mellow out and stop thinking about it. The more negativity we introduce to SR the more it diminishes the greatness of SR....this includes top quality vendors like Dutchaanbod
I think all this negativity is from newbies who haven't been around of SR for at least 6 months...They don't know how many times this site has gone down and up back up again. DPR has done us all a favor..without him I honestly don't know where I would be right now, I can honestly say SR has changed my LIFE!
On another note, Dutch is an honest vendor. Has no reason to "selective scam" look at how cheap he's giving away his MDMA for. It's the cheapest on the road! This guy obviously has bulk of MDMA and wants to get rid of it as fast as he can. Shipping from germany to USA is really inconsistent, even more so with Sandy. I have 3 large orders marked in transit last week and I have faith in Dutch that all 3 would indeed arrive...just a matter of time.Some packages might take 14 days, some 7, and some 40+! In DUTCH we TRUST!!
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Received to western u.s. 10g after 19 days...looks great, but will update after I try.
Stealth was really good, could be any sort of mail.
Stuff looks about 50/50 big crystals and smaller crystals, color is tan but when seen with a lightsource behind there is a greenish color also.
Will update when I get it sorted...
thanks, G
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I wanted to take a second to say that straight up, Dutch is a selective scammer. Too many of his packages don't make it through, and the ones that don't aren't tracked.
Total bullshit. He's this close to going the way of SuperTrips.
I wanted to take a second to say that straight up, you sir are narrow minded. You are the cancer and should be removed from the community.
Total bullshit. You will never be close to the success of Dutchaanbod or SuperTrips so get back to where you came from and stop spreading your actuated by jealousy thoughts.
My senses tell me that the situation with SuperTrips is just in this moment resolved and Refunds are flowing. We will see...
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Made my first SR order ever from Dutch, marked in transit 10 days ago. Ahh the wait is killing me. Could be here in 2 days or 2 weeks. Can't wait to try out this fine product. Will definitely post a review once I get to try it.
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Got a 10g and 100g order fine. Thanks dutch we love you
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im not calling dutch a scammer but something is up..pretty fucked really :(
i have had 5 successful orders with dutch and currently have 3 orders in transit. all 20 grams to 3 different addresses.
none have arrived and are all over 35 days. (longest ive waited before these 3 orders were 14days)
during these 35 days i have received 6 orders from other german vendors all within 9 days.
it just doesnt make sense.. :( i want the mdma not refunds!
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Hey bathstreet:
I've had the same problem from time to time with different German vendors. Most of my packages will come through then for some reason some of the packages will run late. This probably has something to do with the area of post that dutch is sending his packets from. Mail delays happen frequently and aren't unusual either. I wouldn't be upset until your packages have been unaccounted for 45 days. My last package from Germany ran about 42 days before I finally received it.
Also German post is now run by DHL? Is this right? DHL is infamous for sometimes shipping packages by sea instead of air; which can add a lot of time to shipping times! If you ask me its because they are a cheap company and sometimes go with the cheapest option.
Most of my orders from dutch arrive anywhere from 13 - 28 days. But i've been seeing on the forums where people are running on 38 days to receive a package.
Dutchaanbod: I've sent a message to dutch requesting a tracking number for an order that i've not received yet; although, the site has been down for 4 to 5 days. The package has been "in transit" for 6 days, so it is totally excuasable why I have not yet received the tracking number. I hope that dutch responds soon with my tracking information as I would like to see if its at the sorting center.
Everyone waiting for packages to the USA can be advised that November is one of the busiest shipping times in the USA. It is getting really close to "black friday" and this slows down shipping times tremendously. You also have to keep in mind that SANDY has also caused a lot of backed up mail to occur.
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I too am waiting on a tracking number for a package that has been in transit for 5 days now... giving Dutch some time though since I'm sure hes swamped with orders and shit to straighten out!!
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I have placed 2x 100gr orders successfully, and have just placed a 200gr order. Never had an order take longer than 18 days to East Coast after being marked in transit. Can't wait to receive this order, I love you Dutchaabod <3 :)
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Just received 10 grams to the east coast USA 19 days after being marked in transit. Product tested to be pure MDMA. Biggest rock was about .2 grams. Nice light tan color and good smell. The shipping stealth was the best I've seen. Dutch is a sneaky bastard with it. Overall, it was pretty perfect. Thanks Dutch.
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Even domestic orders from dutch take a long time which makes me wonder if the packages are being handled as low-class-parcel mail due to the amount of postage being used.
The said, I don't have any issues with these packages taking a while to arrive now that I've received my first 50g. I'm planning to go ahead and order 100g even though I don't need it yet so that it'll be here when I need it. Still can' believe how quickly the 50g is disappearing. Anyone that tries this stuff loves it though.
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How does Dutchaanbods MDMA compare to SuperTrips?
Im thinking of ordering from Dutch here soon if I here good things about his product.
I would be making a larger order, is it all completely crystal when you get it? and is some of it powdery?
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I found the majority of my order (20g) to be mostly pebbles, very little to no shakey dust. but no huge rocks.. It was very good and I had no change in feedback when i switched from supertrips... Tho ST i feel is more consistent with white shards.. where Dutch may get some tan/brown batches. Tho I have never seen bad stuff from dutch, he price point makes him go to for me.
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::)vJust made my very first order from Dutchaanbod! I'm already excited and its still marked processing ;D
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How does Dutchaanbods MDMA compare to SuperTrips?
Im thinking of ordering from Dutch here soon if I here good things about his product.
I would be making a larger order, is it all completely crystal when you get it? and is some of it powdery?
The color and amount of crystal/powder varies with dutch but the quality is always good based on reviews. When I say good quality I mean that it all has very high MDMA content. Seems like more recent product has more safrole which gives it a strong safrole smell that most buyers like because they associate it with real MDMA which makes sense. I would be surprised is the amount of safrole in there is anything more than 1%.
Lots of us have been getting a ~50% powder/chunk crystal mix lately. The chemical and quality are identical but everyone loves the chunks.
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first order from Dutch was a success, put it an extension on my order and received it in 26 days to the US, haven't tested or weighed it yet but it came so i have no complaints. I also have another order coming in and i will update on that.
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Another Order with Dutch bit less Rocky more sandy but still fuckin amazing :) Will be back really soon
Thanks My German Star :)
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anyone in northeast us successfully receive an order from dutch? and how long did it take? coming up on day 11 for me.
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Thinking of buying 10Gs off dutchannbod, but want to know what his packaging is like. Obviously not going into detail, but how does it rate for stealth. The best packaging i've ever got off SR was from skyy, it was genius to the point I thought I got scammed.
The packaging was very good and its inside a mailbox.
Packaging was stealth enough to make it to Australia.
sparkus88 that is so great to hear it came thru....im waaiting 30 days now...how long did urs take? thanks kk
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placed an order 3 days before the SR crash and my order is STILL in processing
i understand being backed up but, really?
i hope my order is showing up on Dutchs side
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placed an order 3 days before the SR crash and my order is STILL in processing
i understand being backed up but, really?
i hope my order is showing up on Dutchs side
People complain when dutch marks orders in transit before he's moved the packages to another country and delivered them to the post there.
People complain when dutch will have orders in processing after 3 days (and you can't count the time when SR was down nothing dutch could do about that).
Everyone, if you aren't patient then sorry you need to look for a different vendor. Personally, I'm willing to wait for a great product for a great price.
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Hi all
We don send order out before SR works back normal.....
We don want to lose much more money then whats now in escrow....
you don want to wait no problem cancel your order...
DUTCHAANBOD
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Hi all
We don send order out before SR works back normal.....
We don want to lose much more money then whats now in escrow....
you don want to wait no problem cancel your order...
DUTCHAANBOD
Dutch, does this mean the orders marked in transit before the outage were never sent or did those go out??
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No
I send all order out that where mark in transit...
Dutchaanbod
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No
I send all order out that where mark in transit...
Dutchaanbod
Awesome! Considering the road is down Yet again.. would there be a way for you to get us with tracked packs the tracking number... like with tormail?? Just like to be in the loop and this way if I get brief access to the road I can just save the hassle and Finalize ;)
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No
I send all order out that where mark in transit...
Dutchaanbod
Awesome! Considering the road is down Yet again.. would there be a way for you to get us with tracked packs the tracking number... like with tormail?? Just like to be in the loop and this way if I get brief access to the road I can just save the hassle and Finalize ;)
I'm in the same boat as you. I made a bulk order 7 days ago and i'm unable to get the tracking information for it.
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No
I send all order out that where mark in transit...
Dutchaanbod
Awesome! Considering the road is down Yet again.. would there be a way for you to get us with tracked packs the tracking number... like with tormail?? Just like to be in the loop and this way if I get brief access to the road I can just save the hassle and Finalize ;)
I'm in the same boat as you. I made a bulk order 7 days ago and i'm unable to get the tracking information for it.
Same man 6-7 days!! I know your busy Dutch but maybe us with bulk can contact you via email and just send you our PGP keys and you can send us the tracking numbers.... shit if the road goes down or keep being like this I would do business with you just via email and no escrow or SR commission for you?... I trust ya and it's been a good thing for both us ;)
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No
I send all order out that where mark in transit...
Dutchaanbod
Awesome! Considering the road is down Yet again.. would there be a way for you to get us with tracked packs the tracking number... like with tormail?? Just like to be in the loop and this way if I get brief access to the road I can just save the hassle and Finalize ;)
I'm in the same boat as you. I made a bulk order 7 days ago and i'm unable to get the tracking information for it.
Same man 6-7 days!! I know your busy Dutch but maybe us with bulk can contact you via email and just send you our PGP keys and you can send us the tracking numbers.... shit if the road goes down or keep being like this I would do business with you just via email and no escrow or SR commission for you?... I trust ya and it's been a good thing for both us ;)
I think where the problem is it all the info like tracking numbers is stored on SR with the order. Then any kind of reciept slip is destroyed for safety. It appears to me that the vendor does not have access to the tracking numbers if SR is down.
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Hmm that is interesting where the tracking number is stored?? I would hope not on SR!! I have heard from other vendors that its up to them how to store it and in their trust for keeping it safe but now that you say that I'm not sure actually? Would any vendor, repeat vendor lol, want to step in on these one? Doesn't have to be Dutch, even tho I do love hearing from ya ;) just curious and now am very interested!!
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Hmm that is interesting where the tracking number is stored?? I would hope not on SR!! I have heard from other vendors that its up to them how to store it and in their trust for keeping it safe but now that you say that I'm not sure actually? Would any vendor, repeat vendor lol, want to step in on these one? Doesn't have to be Dutch, even tho I do love hearing from ya ;) just curious and now am very interested!!
Dutch said that he couldn't supply any tracking numbers without logging into SR. I assume when a buyer makes an order and the vendor sends the order. When it is placed "in transit" vendors put in tracking numbers or DCN's into the site, so that SR can confirm sends. This is used on the SR admin and vendor side to confirm sends. Usually it is not avaialable to buyers unless made public to them through the vendor. But yeah all information would probably be stored on the transaction. This is the way I see it anyways. Makes sense to me.
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I'm just glad that both of my orders were placed "in transit" before the black out. And stated by Dutch if the order was placed into "transit" then the order was mailed. So both of my orders should hopefully be on their way from Dutch. My bulk order however was only placed "in transit" 1 to 2 days before the blackout. This has me a little worried since I don't have the tracking number for it for 7 to 8 days now. Everything should be find, but i'm a little worried for obvious reasons.
I would indeed still do business with Dutch by other means if SR is indeed done for.
I think though that SR is just under attack by the means of DDoS. There was also some kind of mention of a hacker on the forums posing that he/she was responsible for the current situation of the road. I think all posts have been deleted by the mods. Futhermore, there are other theories for other members that the road has been compromised by the DEA and the site has been taken down to be turned into a "honeypot". This type of situation has happened before to other sites similar to this like the "Farmers Market". Everyone needs to practice patience and safety. We need to wait out this storm and be safe.
All in all the state of the road is probably safe. DPR had said a while ago that the size and growth of the road was causing problems way before anything of this nature had occurred. Official statements from DPR has also been made, but there seems to be no official statement of lately. I think the problem that everyone is experiencing right now is from the sever not being able to handle the load of its users.
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Hmm that is interesting where the tracking number is stored?? I would hope not on SR!! I have heard from other vendors that its up to them how to store it and in their trust for keeping it safe but now that you say that I'm not sure actually? Would any vendor, repeat vendor lol, want to step in on these one? Doesn't have to be Dutch, even tho I do love hearing from ya ;) just curious and now am very interested!!
Dutch said that he couldn't supply any tracking numbers without logging into SR. I assume when a buyer makes an order and the vendor sends the order. When it is placed "in transit" vendors put in tracking numbers or DCN's into the site, so that SR can confirm sends. This is used on the SR admin and vendor side to confirm sends. Usually it is not avaialable to buyers unless made public to them through the vendor. But yeah all information would probably be stored on the transaction. This is the way I see it anyways. Makes sense to me.
A few pages back someone by the name of Ocean was asking what happens when the tracking says its delivered and there is no package. He then came back a page later to say that Dutch had given him his tracking number for a previous order. That would mean that he doesn't discard tracking numbers after it's delivered. They must be stored somewhere on SR.
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awesome stuff :)
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Hmm that is interesting where the tracking number is stored?? I would hope not on SR!! I have heard from other vendors that its up to them how to store it and in their trust for keeping it safe but now that you say that I'm not sure actually? Would any vendor, repeat vendor lol, want to step in on these one? Doesn't have to be Dutch, even tho I do love hearing from ya ;) just curious and now am very interested!!
Dutch said that he couldn't supply any tracking numbers without logging into SR. I assume when a buyer makes an order and the vendor sends the order. When it is placed "in transit" vendors put in tracking numbers or DCN's into the site, so that SR can confirm sends. This is used on the SR admin and vendor side to confirm sends. Usually it is not avaialable to buyers unless made public to them through the vendor. But yeah all information would probably be stored on the transaction. This is the way I see it anyways. Makes sense to me.
A few pages back someone by the name of Ocean was asking what happens when the tracking says its delivered and there is no package. He then came back a page later to say that Dutch had given him his tracking number for a previous order. That would mean that he doesn't discard tracking numbers after it's delivered. They must be stored somewhere on SR.
lol couldnt help but chuckle at this a little. He has a billion orders at a time, he most likely has the DCN's IRL. He cant give them out without logging into SR because how would he know who you even are or what you even ordered? He most likely just verifies the transaction number with the DCN he has set aside for it. DCN's are not stored in SR. Thats basically storing your address, if that was the case why even waste the time with PGP.
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Well I know Dutch is most likely busy packing up orders but he did read my message about my tracking order as I still do not have my tracking number and it has now been a Week!! I understand he is very busy and maybe sleeping now but I would like to think us with bulk orders would be a priority?? Hopefully I wake up tmrw and the road actually works and I have a tracking number in my inbox!!!
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Well I know Dutch is most likely busy packing up orders but he did read my message about my tracking order as I still do not have my tracking number and it has now been a Week!! I understand he is very busy and maybe sleeping now but I would like to think us with bulk orders would be a priority?? Hopefully I wake up tmrw and the road actually works and I have a tracking number in my inbox!!!
I feel you man. My order has been in transit for over a week now too and I still don't have a tracking number. I've sent him an email and i'm going to wait for a response.
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I got, well, HAD, 20 grams of that. I've been selling Pfands shit, Eazyjet's shit, and Dutch's last batch, but a few people are saying this stuff is better.
A good handful of people have been telling me 100mg is a good dose.
I'm eating some this weekend so I'm pumped (I only eat MDMA once a month.)
Nice to hear. I just put in an order for 50g last night. Hard to beat his prices and cool that he doesn't require FE. Good enough deal that it makes me nervous so let's hope he doesn't go SuperTrips or MrFireUK on us...
And I am also selling this shit. As long as I can keep a steady supply coming from SR there is some big opportunity to make some cash. Quality on SR is on average much better than shit on the street too. Cash + good reputation = awesome. Still I'm going to diversify my supply in case a vendor decides to go rogue on me (I've lucked out twice already).
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anyone in northeast us successfully receive an order from dutch? and how long did it take? coming up on day 11 for me.
Took me 19 days after being marked in transit.
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Hey guys
Trying Dutch for the first time, started with a small 50g order. What troubles me is that i see people waiting quite a bit of time for their stuff. Can anyone tell me how long it takes for packages to get to eastern europe ? I live in a country pretty close to Germany, about 1500 km away. As a reference, i've been dealing with AfterHour a few times, and the waiting times ware NEVER longer than 5 working days with the lowest being 3. Cheers and can't wait :)
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Our listing will be down for some days we first gonna handle all orders and message's...
Dutchaanbod
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Our listing will be down for some days we first gonna handle all orders and message's...
Dutchaanbod
Gotta love this guy man. As busy as he is, he is still resolving an order with me on SR right now, and its been so many days in transit but i know its going to come somehow. 36 days and waiting :(
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Our listing will be down for some days we first gonna handle all orders and message's...
Dutchaanbod
Hi Dutch I put my order in lastnight 14/11, so will my order be handled now or later ?
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Alright so here's my overall review on my experience with Dutch.
I'm from Midwest Canada and this was only my 3rd transaction on SR, so I was happy with not having to finalize early right from the get go. I ordered my 10gr package on October 23rd, market in transit on October 26th and it arrived here on November 13th, 18 days total shipping time. I had already prepared myself for a long shipping time so I was pretty happy with 18 days. The packaging was excellent... no need to say more.
As for the product I received, it was a white / clearish type of crystal, very nice looking mdma. Weight was on point and it was about 70% rocks and the rest chunky sand... the biggest rock weighing to 600mg! I sold my buddy a gram he dosed 150mg and me and my girlfriend took 170mg each... all 3 of us rolled very hard right off the start, lots of eye wiggles, great euphoria, overall good time, me and my girlfriend took another 200mg 3 hours in and were rolling good for close to 8 hours. Sleep wasn't too difficult and the come down was rather mellow compared to a lot of mdma I've done.
6/5 for everything great experience all around... Can't beat these prices and quality! I will be back Dutch!
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Our listing will be down for some days we first gonna handle all orders and message's...
Dutchaanbod
Gotta love this guy man. As busy as he is, he is still resolving an order with me on SR right now, and its been so many days in transit but i know its going to come somehow. 36 days and waiting :(
I feel your pain. I'm on day 30 and still waiting. Not worried, as I see others in this thread have waited 40+ days to get their packs. Patience is a virtue, I guess.......
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Has anyone got experience of receiving from the UK? I've been waiting longer than people have stated in dutch's feedback on SR and am starting to worry that its not going to arrive
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Hell yeah! Dutch is gonna catch up to the backlogs. This is a sign of a quality vendor and all other vendors should take note.
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Hell yeah! Dutch is gonna catch up to the backlogs. This is a sign of a quality vendor and all other vendors should take note.
not trying to be a buzz kill but always makes me cringe a little when a vendor says they're "taking a break." let's just say i've seen that donkey show before...
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If you look back in the forums, Dutch has been taking breaks to catch up with orders about once every 2 weeks. This has been his normal protocall to make sure he doesn't get behind on orders.
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Dutch took a break right after the last order I placed with him. Got my package, so I dont know why it would make anyone cringe.
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I'm currently waiting on my 3rd and 4th order from this vendor. I don't have anything to say about him other then a lot of love. Still waiting on my tracking number though, its been 8 days in transit and no tracking number. However, this is because SR has been down for the majority of the time and was unable to get the tracking number. So, there's no fault with Dutch about anything.
For anybody thinking about ordering. Dutch's shipping times are a bit slow. I've heard about people even in the 40+ days to get a package. But his stealth is excellent and he is reliable. You can trust in this vendor.
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Just got my tracking this morning... been a week but its not currently live!! Is it just me or aren't they supposed to have ten digits?? all mine from DE in past were 10 digit numbers??
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Just got my tracking this morning... been a week but its not currently live!! Is it just me or aren't they supposed to have ten digits?? all mine from DE in past were 10 digit numbers??
I'll let you know when I get mine. I haven't got my tracking number yet. Dutch did say it took about 10 days for the tracking to start working on USPS.
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Just got my tracking this morning... been a week but its not currently live!! Is it just me or aren't they supposed to have ten digits?? all mine from DE in past were 10 digit numbers??
I'll let you know when I get mine. I haven't got my tracking number yet. Dutch did say it took about 10 days for the tracking to start working on USPS.
Yea im going to wait 5 days to check it again... all my tracking from other german vendors with the same format work within 24 hrs ;) I think Dutch might say up to 10 because packs might go out a little after in transit but who cares as long as its sent!!! Will keep everyone updated! ;D
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Well my pack has been in transit for over a week now and i would like to get tracking on it. But its a good sign that you just received tracking on yours since you or were in a similar boat as me. I haven't been able to log onto SR lately to check if i've got a response yet.
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Well my pack has been in transit for over a week now and i would like to get tracking on it. But its a good sign that you just received tracking on yours since you or were in a similar boat as me. I haven't been able to log onto SR lately to check if i've got a response yet.
Really man? I got mine this morning so I'm sure your is there! Thats weird though I've been on all day on and off and its actually been pretty quick!! Let me know when you get yours if it works yet and I will post back once mine works and I Finalize!! 8)
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I was only able to access the road till about 11am after that and it won't connect. The site seems to be busy a lot of the time and times out on connections. I guess i'm gonna hop around to different identities till I find one that likes to connect.
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Well my pack has been in transit for over a week now and i would like to get tracking on it. But its a good sign that you just received tracking on yours since you or were in a similar boat as me. I haven't been able to log onto SR lately to check if i've got a response yet.
Really man? I got mine this morning so I'm sure your is there! Thats weird though I've been on all day on and off and its actually been pretty quick!! Let me know when you get yours if it works yet and I will post back once mine works and I Finalize!! 8)
Mine was 10 digits long if you were wondering. If you got 9 digits I think your missing a number man.
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Our listing will be down for some days we first gonna handle all orders and message's...
Dutchaanbod
Hi Dutch I put my order in lastnight 14/11, so will my order be handled now or later ?
It will probably take him at least 2-3 days before he sends it on it's way and marks "in transit" .
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Placed 200gr order 11/15 marked shipped 11/16!! Dutch is perfect as always, I've already pre-sold everything coming to me and will be buying more as soon as it gets here! Not even worried about the tracking, per Dutch's terms I don't have to finalize if I don't get it..So it's up to him, that's cool. As long as it gets here, which I do not doubt based on past experiences. Spread the love guys <3
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Listing is back up all orders that where open are made...
we send theme out this weekend...
Hard worked this day answer over 400 message and make all orders..
Greats DA
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Awesome!! Good job, I know that had to be a lot of work!
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Let me just say, thank you for being so long-standing and consistent. I havent ordered from you yet, but plan to very shortly.
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Hey anyone with a tracking number is there 9 digits between the two XX-XX or 10?? example XX123456789XX or XX1234567899XX???? I Always thought it was 10 but I could be mistaken.. also how long does it usually take to work cause through other vendors the same tracking format usually is up by 24 hrs??
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Hey anyone with a tracking number is there 9 digits between the two XX-XX or 10?? example XX123456789XX or XX1234567899XX???? I Always thought it was 10 but I could be mistaken.. also how long does it usually take to work cause through other vendors the same tracking format usually is up by 24 hrs??
My tracking never worked until "Arrival at unit" which means USPS sort center near you aka its coming in a few hours.
Yea I know how tracking is so pointless and unpredictable!! Was it 9 or digits tho man... Dutch checked twice so I trust him, just want to make sure it wasn't a mistake he made from the beginning as another member told me his was 10 digits??
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Hey anyone with a tracking number is there 9 digits between the two XX-XX or 10?? example XX123456789XX or XX1234567899XX???? I Always thought it was 10 but I could be mistaken.. also how long does it usually take to work cause through other vendors the same tracking format usually is up by 24 hrs??
My tracking never worked until "Arrival at unit" which means USPS sort center near you aka its coming in a few hours.
Yea I know how tracking is so pointless and unpredictable!! Was it 9 or digits tho man... Dutch checked twice so I trust him, just want to make sure it wasn't a mistake he made from the beginning as another member told me his was 10 digits??
There are supposed to be 9 numbers, not 10.
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Let me just say, thank you for being so long-standing and consistent. I havent ordered from you yet, but plan to very shortly.
yeah mee too!! thanks dutch for being here, you will hear from me soon :)
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Placed 200gr order 11/15 marked shipped 11/16!! Dutch is perfect as always, I've already pre-sold everything coming to me and will be buying more as soon as it gets here! Not even worried about the tracking, per Dutch's terms I don't have to finalize if I don't get it..So it's up to him, that's cool. As long as it gets here, which I do not doubt based on past experiences. Spread the love guys <3
What do you mean you don't have to finalize? I order big too and any order over 50g needs to be finalized when it hits sorting center.
"50+GR order need to finalize when the are in the sort facility center" - Dutches profile.
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hello i got a question
does a Package of dutchaanbod with 10g inside fit in a EU- Postbox with the size 6x30cm ????
if not the postman will bring it to the post office, that would be not good for me ...
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Dutch came through like a boss! Day 32 to the midwest. Packaging is great, total stealth. Product is great. No complaints here, just badass MDMA.
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Placed 200gr order 11/15 marked shipped 11/16!! Dutch is perfect as always, I've already pre-sold everything coming to me and will be buying more as soon as it gets here! Not even worried about the tracking, per Dutch's terms I don't have to finalize if I don't get it..So it's up to him, that's cool. As long as it gets here, which I do not doubt based on past experiences. Spread the love guys <3
What do you mean you don't have to finalize? I order big too and any order over 50g needs to be finalized when it hits sorting center.
"50+GR order need to finalize when the are in the sort facility center" - Dutches profile.
Exactly! I agree with his terms 100% and have no problem finalizing early on that condition. BUT if he ships it but does not take the time to provide me the tracking #, how would I ever be able to verify that it hits the sorting center? So the money stays in escrow until I can check that it does. I think that if it had to be taken into resolution for a package not showing, he would have to provide a tracking # at that point or I am certain SR would rule in my favor..Since I did pay for tracking.
It's in his interest to provide a tracking number. If he ships it and never gets around to messaging me the #, all he does is hypothetically delay the release of funds until successful delivery instead of merely across the border. At the same time, when I do get the tracking number, I am diligent in checking it and releasing funds promptly.
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Tracking says my pack has been at the sorting center in Germany for 10 Days now without updating. Anyone else experience anything similar? Usually US customs holds packs for that long, not German.
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okay guys kinda just doing a follow up on this stuff..
ordered 10gs to west coast yadda yadda got here in 23 days :)
happy me..quietly spread the word about my product and how bomb it was
MANY people were sketchy about it because there is absolutely no good molly around here.
but damn was their skepticism blown out the water...
i gave 4 people each 100mg and some snorted..some just bombed that bitch hahah
they called me on my phone telling me how much they love me n shit :D haha put a big smile on my face cause i had just taken
120mg and knew i was in for it now.
they rolled/no harsh comedown for about 8 hours with a good glow.
mine consisted of 120mg bomb with an 80 follow up about an hour later
that had me going just as long. but damn the high was unlike anything
my body was just feeling AMAZING..it was pure ecstasy.lol and my friend..couldnt stop complimenting how fucking awesome this stuff is.
TLDR---dutch your a legend. everyone loves this. ill be back assuming the demand is still here.which i think it will be :)
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Second time ordering with Dutch. 20g this time. Will update. Thanks Dutch.
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I guess my first package was delayed from Hurricane sandy because my second package showed up on the 13th day to the US. My 2 packages as tests showed up as expected, A+ vendor keep it up.
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Hey anyone with a tracking number is there 9 digits between the two XX-XX or 10?? example XX123456789XX or XX1234567899XX???? I Always thought it was 10 but I could be mistaken.. also how long does it usually take to work cause through other vendors the same tracking format usually is up by 24 hrs??
My tracking never worked until "Arrival at unit" which means USPS sort center near you aka its coming in a few hours.
Yea I know how tracking is so pointless and unpredictable!! Was it 9 or digits tho man... Dutch checked twice so I trust him, just want to make sure it wasn't a mistake he made from the beginning as another member told me his was 10 digits??
Yeah mine is definitely 10 digits long. AA XXX XXX XXX XBB is the format my number came in. Although, tracking still doesn't work yet :(
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does a 10g stealth packed package fit into a 6 x 30 cm german standard post-slot???
who knews???
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Damn... just got a response from dutch to my message in less than 5 min... that's good customer service lol.
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Hey anyone with a tracking number is there 9 digits between the two XX-XX or 10?? example XX123456789XX or XX1234567899XX???? I Always thought it was 10 but I could be mistaken.. also how long does it usually take to work cause through other vendors the same tracking format usually is up by 24 hrs??
My tracking never worked until "Arrival at unit" which means USPS sort center near you aka its coming in a few hours.
Yea I know how tracking is so pointless and unpredictable!! Was it 9 or digits tho man... Dutch checked twice so I trust him, just want to make sure it wasn't a mistake he made from the beginning as another member told me his was 10 digits??
Yeah mine is definitely 10 digits long. AA XXX XXX XXX XBB is the format my number came in. Although, tracking still doesn't work yet :(
I've had numerous shipments from multiple countries and even checked the USPS website and all of them use 2 letters, 9 numbers, 2 letter=13 characters total. If you have 14 characters then really sounds like you've got an invalid tracking number.
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I just wanted to hop back in this thread, some 90 pages later and say that Dutch's stuff is flying out of my hands, people can't get enough of it. I've had many friends tell me that its the best they've ever had.
For the price and Dutch's consistency you are getting a top quality product from a top quality vendor.
I can't stress enough how satisfied I am with my purchase. ;D
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The tracking number that Dutch gave me seems like it doesn't work. It has been over 10 days and the tracking only states "Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office. " This is the same message that appears when I enter any combination of numbers. How long does it take for the tracking to start working? Anyone with some experience out there?
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The tracking number that Dutch gave me seems like it doesn't work. It has been over 10 days and the tracking only states "Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office. " This is the same message that appears when I enter any combination of numbers. How long does it take for the tracking to start working? Anyone with some experience out there?
Same position as you man.. 10 days and same message... Other German vendors using the same tracking for me usually work within 48 hrs?? although I hear this is very common so not worried, just need to know when to be here to sign!!
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The tracking number that Dutch gave me seems like it doesn't work. It has been over 10 days and the tracking only states "Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office. " This is the same message that appears when I enter any combination of numbers. How long does it take for the tracking to start working? Anyone with some experience out there?
Same position as you man.. 10 days and same message... Other German vendors using the same tracking for me usually work within 48 hrs?? although I hear this is very common so not worried, just need to know when to be here to sign!!
Yeah me too. But if you miss signing for it, you can always pick it up at the post office. It would be nice if the package would come up in tracking though.
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The tracking number that Dutch gave me seems like it doesn't work. It has been over 10 days and the tracking only states "Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office. " This is the same message that appears when I enter any combination of numbers. How long does it take for the tracking to start working? Anyone with some experience out there?
Same position as you man.. 10 days and same message... Other German vendors using the same tracking for me usually work within 48 hrs?? although I hear this is very common so not worried, just need to know when to be here to sign!!
Yeah me too. But if you miss signing for it, you can always pick it up at the post office. It would be nice if the package would come up in tracking though.
Yea im not worried about that man just for later on if its a real long wait for the pack I would like to see how long its in ISC so I could take worse case preparations if need be the case but no worries that won't happen and I'm sure it will work very soon ;D
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got the goods yesterday after 17days. ordered 10g got 10.6!!! the batch almost looks grey. 50/50 powder/rocks. stronger then the brown batch a while back. overall great purchase. 10/5.
ps the molly shipped on/around 10/31 is FIRE.
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The tracking number that Dutch gave me seems like it doesn't work. It has been over 10 days and the tracking only states "Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office. " This is the same message that appears when I enter any combination of numbers. How long does it take for the tracking to start working? Anyone with some experience out there?
Same position as you man.. 10 days and same message... Other German vendors using the same tracking for me usually work within 48 hrs?? although I hear this is very common so not worried, just need to know when to be here to sign!!
Yeah me too. But if you miss signing for it, you can always pick it up at the post office. It would be nice if the package would come up in tracking though.
Yea im not worried about that man just for later on if its a real long wait for the pack I would like to see how long its in ISC so I could take worse case preparations if need be the case but no worries that won't happen and I'm sure it will work very soon ;D
My tracking numbers don't work either. I'm not worried though! Last time my tracking didn't work until after it arrived at ISC, and all the updates were a day late. The strange thing is I ordered something legal from the UK at the same time about 13 days ago with tracking...it was delivered on Friday so about 11 days total in transit and when I check the tracking on USPS, it never went through ISC in NY, it went to IL, then to a city near mine. First time I've had an international package not go through ISC NY.Has anybody seen that Alert message on the USPS web site? It reads "ALERT: Hurricane Sandy mail delivery service disruptions, change-of-address info..."
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UPDATE re: order 10g
ordered on 10/22, in transit 10/25, received 11/13 to SW US
Stealth was very good, appearance similar to typical mail
Weight - 10.05g
11/16 - male #1 150# - 90 mg in gel cap, male#2 - 100 mg in gel cap, bump 50 mg
took one hour for smooth come up to typical molly effects, euphoria, empathy, loquaciousness
plateau reached shortly afterwards lasting in duration for 2-3 hours then smooth come down ending about 5 hours later with no difficulty sleeping at all. No bruxism noticed. Woke up next day feeling well rested and with a slight increase in energy and motivation. feelings of well being and optimism remained which is untypical of most after use effects.
would compare favorably to all other top vendors here. I believe batches from other vendors include some amount of MDxx which accounts for their unique characteristics. Subjectively, I would say Dutch's batch is roughly all Molly with very small amounts of other MDxx analogs. That being said, I think the users prefer a small percentage of batch to be MDA which adds some visuals and a greater release of dopamine and norepinephrine (please correct me if I'm wrong here.)
Overall would order again and soon.
thanks all, G
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Just placed my second order, this time for 20G
I have no reason to believe that this order will go any less smoothly than the last.
thank you again Dutchaanbod.
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Can anyone comment on how long it usually takes your tracking number to start from the time it's marked in transit?
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Just made my 3rd order with dutch and am about to make another one sometime soon again, will update back for the community.
Thank you dutch for being a great vendor.
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Always hear about little orders that are 7 days, 10 days, etc to the states yet tracked always takes longer and at least 2 weeks for our numbers to even work... makes me wonder why thats so quick or if its exaggerated?? Anyone tracking work that order is over 10 days old?? Guess is could just arrive anyday though if 7 days really does happen!
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Do packages 10g and under need to be signed for?
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Do packages 10g and under need to be signed for?
Negative, just sitting in the box!
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took one hour for smooth come up to typical molly effects, euphoria, empathy, loquaciousness
plateau reached shortly afterwards lasting in duration for 2-3 hours then smooth come down ending about 5 hours later with no difficulty sleeping at all. No bruxism noticed. Woke up next day feeling well rested and with a slight increase in energy and motivation. feelings of well being and optimism remained which is untypical of most after use effects.
nearly have the same experience
though i started to come up in about 25 minutes...and i took 120mg bomb and then about an hour/1/2 later..took another 80mg bomg
my body felt awesome.and so did my feelings n shit haha.
"feelings of well being and optimism remained which is untypical of most after use effects."
^^^this was nice too^^^
though i did notice my teeth hurt a bit. didnt remember grinding though. oosps
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I had asked Dutch about the tracking not working. He had told me that it would takes some days and would show when it was at the sorting center. However, i've read from other members that the tracking didn't report till it arrived at unit; which is the post office in your area.
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its good to see dutch at the top of the list for mdma!
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Placed my first order with Dutch.. 10 g... ohletdoit
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Any order placed 'in transit' recently? Know if Dutch is all caught up/back to normal since downtime?
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I had asked Dutch about the tracking not working. He had told me that it would takes some days and would show when it was at the sorting center. However, i've read from other members that the tracking didn't report till it arrived at unit; which is the post office in your area.
Just checked the tracking on my package and it says it was delivered yesterday, I just haven't picked it up at the office where they hold packages. It was a large order. What I find odd though is that it does not show as going through ISC at all on the tracking, as you mentioned. Says same thing you said "Arrival at unit", then "delivered". I find this a little odd. Have people safely gotten there packages with similar tracking info?
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I had asked Dutch about the tracking not working. He had told me that it would takes some days and would show when it was at the sorting center. However, i've read from other members that the tracking didn't report till it arrived at unit; which is the post office in your area.
Just checked the tracking on my package and it says it was delivered yesterday, I just haven't picked it up at the office where they hold packages. It was a large order. What I find odd though is that it does not show as going through ISC at all on the tracking, as you mentioned. Says same thing you said "Arrival at unit", then "delivered". I find this a little odd. Have people safely gotten there packages with similar tracking info?
Hey man if you don't mind me asking what part of the US do you live in and how long was the time since marked in transit to give us that don't work a heads up :)
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Mine has not updated since Nov 8th since it was at the Germany post. It should have made it to New York ISC by now.... i wonder if mine will skip all the updates too.
please keep me updated when you pick up your pack.
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Mine has not updated since Nov 8th since it was at the Germany post. It should have made it to New York ISC by now.... i wonder if mine will skip all the updates too.
please keep me updated when you pick up your pack.
I Wish I even had a single German update to know it was sent even though I trust Dutch, but I think like 2 or 3 others including myself are about 10 days deeps and ours say nothing at all.. doesn't exist type message!
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I had asked Dutch about the tracking not working. He had told me that it would takes some days and would show when it was at the sorting center. However, i've read from other members that the tracking didn't report till it arrived at unit; which is the post office in your area.
Just checked the tracking on my package and it says it was delivered yesterday, I just haven't picked it up at the office where they hold packages. It was a large order. What I find odd though is that it does not show as going through ISC at all on the tracking, as you mentioned. Says same thing you said "Arrival at unit", then "delivered". I find this a little odd. Have people safely gotten there packages with similar tracking info?
Yea I've experienced something similar..I ordered a package from the clearnet sent from the UK..and it never went through customs ISC NY, it went to some city in IL, and then to a nearby city on the West Coast USA. Strange. Maybe the'yre backed up at ISC NY?
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17 Days to the midwest USA. Stealth as fuck. Gotta give probs man. Just showing some love dutch. Be expecting another order tommorow.
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I am starting to get a bit worried now, hopefully without reason, but my package never went to IL. It just shows as "origin post preparing shipment" in Germany, then 12 days after it says "Arrival At Unit" at my local post office, then "Delivered".
Could anyone who has safely received please chime in about this. I do not want to give the region it was shipped to for security reasons, at least not yet. This just seems very odd that it would not show anything in between Germany and my local PO. It says "registered Mail" as the type, not sure if that matters just trying to be thorough.
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20 days to Aus
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Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there were buyers from West UE who ordered at the end of October, because I've ordered on 31/10 and the package is still not arrived (France).
It has been put in transit the 1/11 so I'm waiting for about 17-18 days (since I saw Dutchaanbod was sometimes shipping 2 or 3 days after it's been marked on SR).
It was a 10g first order, and now it is under the Resolution Center, and I've proposed an extension of the due date.
Is there anyone else in my case ? Because it is a bit long as I saw buyers from the West Coast in the US who received their order in less time than mine.
Thanks a lot for responding !
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I am starting to get a bit worried now, hopefully without reason, but my package never went to IL. It just shows as "origin post preparing shipment" in Germany, then 12 days after it says "Arrival At Unit" at my local post office, then "Delivered".
Could anyone who has safely received please chime in about this. I do not want to give the region it was shipped to for security reasons, at least not yet. This just seems very odd that it would not show anything in between Germany and my local PO. It says "registered Mail" as the type, not sure if that matters just trying to be thorough.
It is very common for them to miss scanning the tracking label at customs and elsewhere. Hell even my mailman missed the fact that one of my packs had a tracking label.
Of mention though, I believe there is also an ISC at Chicago.
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Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there were buyers from West UE who ordered at the end of October, because I've ordered on 31/10 and the package is still not arrived (France).
It has been put in transit the 1/11 so I'm waiting for about 17-18 days (since I saw Dutchaanbod was sometimes shipping 2 or 3 days after it's been marked on SR).
It was a 10g first order, and now it is under the Resolution Center, and I've proposed an extension of the due date.
Is there anyone else in my case ? Because it is a bit long as I saw buyers from the West Coast in the US who received their order in less time than mine.
Thanks a lot for responding !
Im in the same boat. From the UK. Marked in transit on the 4th nov but it has not arrived yet. Suprising to see americans receive their goods under 18 days of which ive been waiting but I know dutch was backlogged quite a bit and we may have purchased at his most busiest time?
Im in the resolution center too. Suggested to extend to the due date (+5 days). If its not here by then, im gonig to expect thats its not coming. I have a perfect success rate, having been a member for 8 months so this would be unusual if this doesnt show.
My hopes are still high for the time being though.
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I am starting to get a bit worried now, hopefully without reason, but my package never went to IL. It just shows as "origin post preparing shipment" in Germany, then 12 days after it says "Arrival At Unit" at my local post office, then "Delivered".
Could anyone who has safely received please chime in about this. I do not want to give the region it was shipped to for security reasons, at least not yet. This just seems very odd that it would not show anything in between Germany and my local PO. It says "registered Mail" as the type, not sure if that matters just trying to be thorough.
It is very common for them to miss scanning the tracking label at customs and elsewhere. Hell even my mailman missed the fact that one of my packs had a tracking label.
Of mention though, I believe there is also an ISC at Chicago.
You are correct there is an ISC in Chicago! There are 5 ISC locations in the US! Also Xmas time delays and heavy flow is most likely why it went there... OP is lucky to get his pack so quick lol who cares about the updates... I hope I get mine in 2 weeks aka 3 days haha!! 8)
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I had asked Dutch about the tracking not working. He had told me that it would takes some days and would show when it was at the sorting center. However, i've read from other members that the tracking didn't report till it arrived at unit; which is the post office in your area.
Just checked the tracking on my package and it says it was delivered yesterday, I just haven't picked it up at the office where they hold packages. It was a large order. What I find odd though is that it does not show as going through ISC at all on the tracking, as you mentioned. Says same thing you said "Arrival at unit", then "delivered". I find this a little odd. Have people safely gotten there packages with similar tracking info?
All that means is the first time the tracking barcode was scanned is when it reached your local post office and was out for delivery.
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Does your tracking actually says it has been in the German post office? Mine can't find any tracking info, its simply says it dosn't exist. Should i be worried? I've never had problems with my country's border, so pretty wired..
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I am starting to get a bit worried now, hopefully without reason, but my package never went to IL. It just shows as "origin post preparing shipment" in Germany, then 12 days after it says "Arrival At Unit" at my local post office, then "Delivered".
Could anyone who has safely received please chime in about this. I do not want to give the region it was shipped to for security reasons, at least not yet. This just seems very odd that it would not show anything in between Germany and my local PO. It says "registered Mail" as the type, not sure if that matters just trying to be thorough.
It is very common for them to miss scanning the tracking label at customs and elsewhere. Hell even my mailman missed the fact that one of my packs had a tracking label.
Of mention though, I believe there is also an ISC at Chicago.
You are correct there is an ISC in Chicago! There are 5 ISC locations in the US! Also Xmas time delays and heavy flow is most likely why it went there... OP is lucky to get his pack so quick lol who cares about the updates... I hope I get mine in 2 weeks aka 3 days haha!! 8)
It never went through Chicago,it went through Elk Grove, IL. And it never said ISC it just said USPS sorting facility. I'm a bit worried though, my tracking numbers still don't work, and my packages were "marked in transit" about 11 and 13 days ago. Has anybody taken a look at his profile lately? In the past 12 hours there are two feedbacks claiming a no show on 100g :-\ Hopefully he didn't get sloppy with his packaging. I wonder what country those people were in, hopefully Australia!
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Panda how do you know the exact location if your tracking doesn't work lol?? Either I'm just too stoned or I missed something here... day 11 too and my tracking doesn't work! Also expect holiday delays for the next month or two and I would think its even a better time cause the heavy flow of mail... Also I don't think he got sloppy since I have heard he even is always changing it up to stay under the radar!!
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Just placed my first bulk molly order.
Well my second, my first was 50 green ghost from f16 and I got screwed.
Can't say I'm not a little nervous about this, but feeling positive!
Hoping for the best.
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Just got my package of M. 14 days to the SE, including weekends.
Everything looks good, will update here later after I've sampled.
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Panda how do you know the exact location if your tracking doesn't work lol?? Either I'm just too stoned or I missed something here... day 11 too and my tracking doesn't work! Also expect holiday delays for the next month or two and I would think its even a better time cause the heavy flow of mail... Also I don't think he got sloppy since I have heard he even is always changing it up to stay under the radar!!
Haha my bad I didn't specify, but was referring to one of my earlier post I ordered an international package from the clearnet.
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Placed a 10g order to the US. Will report back.
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Anyone who has placed an order with Dutch before: Does he ever send you the tracking number?
I had to finalize early because my package hasn't arrived to the North East US yet. I just want to make sure it's still on the way.
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Anyone who has placed an order with Dutch before: Does he ever send you the tracking number?
I had to finalize early because my package hasn't arrived to the North East US yet. I just want to make sure it's still on the way.
How much did you order? Yes he does give out tracking numbers. Why do you have to FE? You can put it in resolution if it hasn't arrived yet. I had put two of my orders in resolution early just in case we have another outage like we did last week and I was unable to finalize, and Dutch accepted my resolution.
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My 30g order was marked shipped on the 4th of November and arrived 2 weeks later. about half a gram over weight, good mix of off-white/tan/black rocks, pebbles, and sand. Hilariously awesome stealth. I'll be back; to think i was worried.
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12 days for me so far with no updating on the tracking yet :( I'm not worried as this is my 3rd and 4th order from Dutch.
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My 30g order was marked shipped on the 4th of November and arrived 2 weeks later. about half a gram over weight, good mix of off-white/tan/black rocks, pebbles, and sand. Hilariously awesome stealth. I'll be back; to think i was worried.
This haha. The stealth is just hilarious :D
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Just received my 40g order and made another one. Hope it only takes about 2 weeks again with the holidays and all. Really wish there wasn't a signature with 50g or more because I would buy him out lol
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Got my order. All is good. Will update once someone tries, or if I try. Greyish color , looks like sand sorta. Person who has seen good shit before said he had never seen black before and the smell was funny but to be honest I am not worried. For those that have purchased on or around 10/30 , have people tried it yet? Is it clean, clear MDMA high or are there other MDXX remnants as someone else suggested?
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12 days for me so far with no updating on the tracking yet :( I'm not worried as this is my 3rd and 4th order from Dutch.
No update meaning it's stuck at ISC NY? Or it doesn't even work at all? I'm 13 days in and in the same boat :/ He "marked in transit" before the outage, I really hope that he sent them out when he said he did before the outage.
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12 days for me so far with no updating on the tracking yet :( I'm not worried as this is my 3rd and 4th order from Dutch.
No update meaning it's stuck at ISC NY? Or it doesn't even work at all? I'm 13 days in and in the same boat :/ He "marked in transit" before the outage, I really hope that he sent them out when he said he did before the outage.
The tracking doesn't even work at all. Dutch had said that the tracking doesn't work till it hits the sorting center. But i've heard from some people that tracking didn't work till it hit "arrival at unit" which is your local post office before it makes it out for delivery.
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Don't worry, at most my package came in 26 days.
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placing a 20-30 gram ordering when my bitcoins come in, my last order came in 17 Days!!!!! Will update!
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Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there were buyers from West UE who ordered at the end of October, because I've ordered on 31/10 and the package is still not arrived (France).
It has been put in transit the 1/11 so I'm waiting for about 17-18 days (since I saw Dutchaanbod was sometimes shipping 2 or 3 days after it's been marked on SR).
It was a 10g first order, and now it is under the Resolution Center, and I've proposed an extension of the due date.
Is there anyone else in my case ? Because it is a bit long as I saw buyers from the West Coast in the US who received their order in less time than mine.
Thanks a lot for responding !
Im in the same boat. From the UK. Marked in transit on the 4th nov but it has not arrived yet. Suprising to see americans receive their goods under 18 days of which ive been waiting but I know dutch was backlogged quite a bit and we may have purchased at his most busiest time?
Im in the resolution center too. Suggested to extend to the due date (+5 days). If its not here by then, im gonig to expect thats its not coming. I have a perfect success rate, having been a member for 8 months so this would be unusual if this doesnt show.
My hopes are still high for the time being though.
Thank you for keeping me informed of your order, and for my case, it is still not arrived this morning... :o
20 Days from the put in transit, and I really need it for this week end, I don't want to have to buy in the streets the stuff :'(
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Dutchaanbod ~6,6
Price 10/10
Quality 09/10
Shipping 02/10
Last purchase: Okt 12
Short feedback: Arrived in 13 days after order. Slow shipping. Stuff is good quality!
Dutchaanbod said, that my shipping time is very high and not normal! Will soon order again and can update the shipping time.
Source of the review in my signature. Comparison to other vendors inside
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Hello everyone,
I was wondering if there were buyers from West UE who ordered at the end of October, because I've ordered on 31/10 and the package is still not arrived (France).
It has been put in transit the 1/11 so I'm waiting for about 17-18 days (since I saw Dutchaanbod was sometimes shipping 2 or 3 days after it's been marked on SR).
It was a 10g first order, and now it is under the Resolution Center, and I've proposed an extension of the due date.
Is there anyone else in my case ? Because it is a bit long as I saw buyers from the West Coast in the US who received their order in less time than mine.
Thanks a lot for responding !
Im in the same boat. From the UK. Marked in transit on the 4th nov but it has not arrived yet. Suprising to see americans receive their goods under 18 days of which ive been waiting but I know dutch was backlogged quite a bit and we may have purchased at his most busiest time?
Im in the resolution center too. Suggested to extend to the due date (+5 days). If its not here by then, im gonig to expect thats its not coming. I have a perfect success rate, having been a member for 8 months so this would be unusual if this doesnt show.
My hopes are still high for the time being though.
Thank you for keeping me informed of your order, and for my case, it is still not arrived this morning... :o
20 Days from the put in transit, and I really need it for this week end, I don't want to have to buy in the streets the stuff :'(
I'm on day 20 of receiving nothing from dutchaanbod too and I'm only in the U.K. This is my 4th time ordering from germany (all different vendors) and all of the other three arrived in less than a week.
I messaged him yesterday about it and he just said post from germany is real slow and takes up to 4 weeks sometimes so even though I kniw it isn't coming I guess I'm gona have to wait until 4 weeks has passed before I can even message him again ;(
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How long does it usually take from him to send you the tracking number after order being marked "in transit"?
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I'm also waiting, day 19, to Scandinavia. I'm getting a bit worried since I've read in some of the feedback that several people got a refund due to non delivery. I've extended the days in the resolution center, and I really don't want to have to get a refund as I'm a new buyer and don't want to hurt my stats. Has anyone gotten deliveries from him to Scandinavia? How long did it take?
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Dutch didnt give me tracking until 9 days into my order. It didnt work for 2 days then finally said my shipment is being prepared 12 days after marked in transit. I have a few days before autofinilization occurs... i will be adding days to my order.
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Dutch didnt give me tracking until 9 days into my order. It didnt work for 2 days then finally said my shipment is being prepared 12 days after marked in transit. I have a few days before autofinilization occurs... i will be adding days to my order.
Same here, took him 8-9 days to give me my numbers..the first 2 were 'marked in transit' 2 days before the outage and my last order was 'marked in transit' the day of the outage. It's been 12 days for my last order and the number barely started working..while the first two have been in transit for 14 days and they still don't work :/
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I'm on day 35 in Canada. Still waiting patiently for the order. Very very patiently. Hoping it comes in this week. Dutch has offered to help figure out something for me even after the product auto-finalized, which is fantastic! He's a great dude, good communication.. shipping lacks alot... but hopefully something good comes out of all this! So for everyone saying it's taking long and you've been waiting forever on day 15-20, just relax a bit :)
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I'm on day 35 in Canada. Still waiting patiently for the order. Very very patiently. Hoping it comes in this week. Dutch has offered to help figure out something for me even after the product auto-finalized, which is fantastic! He's a great dude, good communication.. shipping lacks alot... but hopefully something good comes out of all this! So for everyone saying it's taking long and you've been waiting forever on day 15-20, just relax a bit :)
Yeah, I know what you're talking about, but I personally live in Western UE, it's quiet more near from Germany, and as many others, I usually receive my orders from Germany within a week.
All I have to do now is to wait a few days more. If it comes, I will reorder. If it doesn't come, I will go away with my refund. Too weird to receive nothing on the first order.
Thank you for talking about this, and for bringing your own experience on the shipment, keep going !
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Anybody recently received domestic? Would be interested in how long it took. Thanks.
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Any Aussies received this week?
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How long does it usually take for Dutch to process orders and mark them in transit? Been a couple days since I ordered.
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How long does it usually take for Dutch to process orders and mark them in transit? Been a couple days since I ordered.
Usually 2-3 days to mark in transit.
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Got 10 (+ .2) BEAUTIFUL grams of MDFUCKINGMA in the mail today.
And ordered 50 more.
Thanks, Dutch.
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Got 10 (+ .2) BEAUTIFUL grams of MDFUCKINGMA in the mail today.
And ordered 50 more.
Thanks, Dutch.
How long did your order take? It's been 15 days for two of my orders and the tracking numbers still don't even work. It's really frustrating!! :-[
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Got 10 (+ .2) BEAUTIFUL grams of MDFUCKINGMA in the mail today.
And ordered 50 more.
Thanks, Dutch.
How long did your order take? It's been 15 days for two of my orders and the tracking numbers still don't even work. It's really frustrating!! :-[
My tracking finally works after 14 days!!! It says it was processed through German post today (22nd) no way Dutch sent it before the outage... the numbers take 2-3 days to work but this means he just sent the pack... no way it sat there for 2 weeks in the office.. I'm kinda pissed, just want an honest vendor!! >:( >:(
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I have the same problem.
Ordered before the Downtime, he switched to in transit also before.
now i went into resolution and prolonged the finalization a few days. i asked him and he told me that he sent out a few orders late because of the downtime. but i think he should have been able to catch up now...
i was already getting worried if my adress was being observed. different now as i read about all the others
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Im just pissed cause I was expecting in anyday and now my 2-3 week wait actually begins!!!!
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how is his shipping now? has it gotten any better?
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Hey Everyone,
Unfortunately my 100g order did not arrive (it's been 45 days and tracking never worked), but Dutch offered 100% refund!! Dutch is truly one of the most professional and honest vendors on SR. I want to reorder my 100g order but I am literally short 1BTC. I cannot fund my account today due to the Thanksgiving holiday. I hate appearing like a freeloader and asking for handouts but if someone can send me 1BTC to my wallet (1CQwV6ghFRJ8JZyRDf2NbKy4edzYajpo) I will be forever grateful :D :D :D :D.
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Reading the last posts I am starting to think I am waiting for something that hasn't yet been shipped. :(
But never know... usually I have had great shipping times with DA.
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Hey Everyone,
Unfortunately my 100g order did not arrive (it's been 45 days and tracking never worked), but Dutch offered 100% refund!! Dutch is truly one of the most professional and honest vendors on SR. I want to reorder my 100g order but I am literally short 1BTC. I cannot fund my account today due to the Thanksgiving holiday. I hate appearing like a freeloader and asking for handouts but if someone can send me 1BTC to my wallet (1CQwV6ghFRJ8JZyRDf2NbKy4edzYajpo) I will be forever grateful :D :D :D :D.
What's your SR username?
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Update to my posts. Received yesterday, 18 days to UK.
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Hey guys this is how it looks for me i ordered it to Sweden without tracking which i now definetly regret
ordered: October 27, 2012, 11:45 pm UTC
shipped: October 31, 2012, 9:49 am UTC
Seems like we all have the same issue , i'm thinking the mail might be slow because it's getting close to New year's and christmas?
It's been 17 days now still praying?
Btw question for you guys who have recieved from Dutch before.
I forgot to tell him to crush the crystals for stealthier packing does he do that or does he have a better way of making it stealthier.
Best Regards.
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Seeing Dutchaanbod has over a 100 pages I assume a lot of people receive there goods.
17 days to Sweden is a bit long. Got relatives near Stockholm and my mail arrives within 2 weeks props!
Maybe you can email the seller en c what he has to say! Hope your package will arrive soon!
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Dutch had lied to all of us.. this is a post that he made when the black out started :
Btw All order that where already mark in transit are on the way :)
Greats DA
This isn't true, I had messaged him about an order I've made and he replied saying that he held on to all the orders that were marked in transit before the outage, and didn't send them out till after SR was back online which was about 8 days ago. I didn't receive my tracking number since about 6 days ago. So everyone that made an order 4-5 days before the outage..he really didn't send it out until 6-7 days ago..be prepared to wait another 14-21 days until your order arrives at your door. And everyone else who is thinking about making an order with Dutch , be prepared to wait at least 3-4 weeks until you get your package. IMHO It's not worth the $200-$500 i'll be saving going with Dutch, as apposed to another vendor. Shit I would rather order from SuperTrips knowing It's going to take 3-4 weeks to receive my fucking MDMA, at least I know his gear is out of this world!
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Just placed an order for 10g MD with dutch to midwest CAN, hoping on a speedy and stealthy delivery
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If don want to wait DON ORDER !!!!!
I am sick of all those people that crying that it take long...
we have most time 100+ package's a day we try to send theme fast ass possible!!!
FOR ONE TIME YOU DON WANT TO WAIT LONGER THEN NORMAL DON ORDER ORDER SOME WHERE ELSE !!!!!!!!!
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i'm pretty sure dutch marks his packages as shipped when they leave his hand... as you know he doesn't live in germany, but offers shipping from there. it takes some time for whomever to cross the border and get the packages actually in the german mail. unless you didn't opt for the german shipping, and in that case i have no ideas or suggestions.
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Yeah you need to be patient. The German post is a clusterfuck. I had a tracked order that was sent and then sat in at the post office 2 full weeks before even moving. Once it left there it was here and in my hands in a little over a week. There was another order with no tracking sent a week after the first package and that came in a week before the first tracked order. It's just how it goes
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If don want to wait DON ORDER !!!!!
I am sick of all those people that crying that it take long...
we have most time 100+ package's a day we try to send theme fast ass possible!!!
FOR ONE TIME YOU DON WANT TO WAIT LONGER THEN NORMAL DON ORDER ORDER SOME WHERE ELSE !!!!!!!!!
Dutch we just ask that when you mark it in transit it actually is.. this is not the case legal or not I have had over 100 registered packs from DE and tracking takes 2-3 days to work.. Dutch said he sent before the outage and my tracking after 14 days in transit said just today it was it German post facility so basically just shipped. Just ask to be honest thats all man!!
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DUTCH, do not let these whiney little bitches get you down. Keep providing good quality product, don't even pay attention to them. You're a HERO on the SILK ROAD!
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What if dutch waited til after SR blackout to send out a bunch of packages marked in transit a few days before, yet hadn't actually shipped due to not wanting to lose everything in escrow, or SR in total even. That's just what I would have done with the uncertainty, told my people to hold off, until they could be sure that they'd actually get paid for the packages they were sending.
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I just made a order, used the German mailing option. I understand its going to take awhile i'm guessing about 3 weeks. Is it better to send from Germany than Holland? also, does this mean i will get tracking since i paid for German mail?
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DUTCH, do not let these whiney little bitches get you down. Keep providing good quality product, don't even pay attention to them. You're a HERO on the SILK ROAD!
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First of all, learn how to use spell check . Second of all get off your fucking knees and stop sucking Dutch's cock. You would be frustrated and just as upset as some of us if you spent 3k+ for some MDMA that was promised it was sent out two weeks ago before the SR outage, and 15 days later he's telling you the reason why your tracking number still doesn't work is because he actually didn't send out our package, and that he held onto it after it was marked in transit for 7 days. But of course, he's your fucking HERO since he's selling you a gram of "molly" for less than $50 and it wouldn't matter how long you got your fix just as long as you got it!!!
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that makes me a sad panda lol... awesome name, one of my favorite south park episodes. now that we have that out of the way, let's act like dutch had already been paid for the item you allege he didn't ship until SR came back up. we both know he had not received any payment from you and may never have been able to get it with questions surrounding the site for those few days. i do understand you're frustrated that you were told it had been sent though. let's pretend for a second what we're doing here isn't already highly illegal and if we could get a better deal locally we wouldn't be here. i don't know how long you've been in the drug game, but obviously things don't go as smoothly as you'd like all of the time. shit happens and whatnot. ranting and raving about a delay is kinda petty when compared to a hand full of other vendors packages don't show up period. he offers a damn good product at a ridiculously low price, shipped pretty damn stealthily from a non sketchy country. personally i'd be hesitant to ship 3 grand of product knowing i might never be able to recover my money if the site never came back... i don't condone him telling you it was shipped if it had not left his hands though. here's hoping your package arrives soon :)
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that makes me a sad panda lol... awesome name, one of my favorite south park episodes. now that we have that out of the way, let's act like dutch had already been paid for the item you allege he didn't ship until SR came back up. we both know he had not received any payment from you and may never have been able to get it with questions surrounding the site for those few days. i do understand you're frustrated that you were told it had been sent though. let's pretend for a second what we're doing here isn't already highly illegal and if we could get a better deal locally we wouldn't be here. i don't know how long you've been in the drug game, but obviously things don't go as smoothly as you'd like all of the time. shit happens and whatnot. ranting and raving about a delay is kinda petty when compared to a hand full of other vendors packages don't show up period. he offers a damn good product at a ridiculously low price, shipped pretty damn stealthily from a non sketchy country. personally i'd be hesitant to ship 3 grand of product knowing i might never be able to recover my money if the site never came back... i don't condone him telling you it was shipped if it had not left his hands though. here's hoping your package arrives soon :)
Your totally right. I know what the game is like, it's unpredictable, especially the black market. I just want him to be honest, that is all. But is what it is and there's nothing I can do about it. I apologize for my ranting.
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question for yas is this not suppose to be a product review thread an not a product delivery time thread?yes by all means tell how long it took to arrive but make sure your giving a review on the product aswell the past page or two seems to be moaning about delivery time... 8)
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Hello people !
I just wanted to know if someone could refresh my memory : when exactly did SR go offline at the beginning of the month?
It would allows me to know if Dutch has sent my order after the out time or before, as he wasn't aware of what was going to happen with the site.
Thanks a lot to the one who respond me about that date.
P.S : I'm on day 22 since marked "in transit" (ordered 31th of October, "shipped" 1st of November). Hope I will receive it before the huge party I've organized in a week :P
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Hello people !
I just wanted to know if someone could refresh my memory : when exactly did SR go offline at the beginning of the month?
It would allows me to know if Dutch has sent my order after the out time or before, as he wasn't aware of what was going to happen with the site.
Thanks a lot to the one who respond me about that date.
P.S : I'm on day 22 since marked "in transit" (ordered 31th of October, "shipped" 1st of November). Hope I will receive it before the huge party I've organized in a week :P
I don't know the exact date but if it was shipped the 1st I believe that was right around a week before the black out man!!
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Hello people !
I just wanted to know if someone could refresh my memory : when exactly did SR go offline at the beginning of the month?
It would allows me to know if Dutch has sent my order after the out time or before, as he wasn't aware of what was going to happen with the site.
Thanks a lot to the one who respond me about that date.
P.S : I'm on day 22 since marked "in transit" (ordered 31th of October, "shipped" 1st of November). Hope I will receive it before the huge party I've organized in a week :P
Exact date was exactly 14 days ago so Nov 9.
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got my package after 14 days within eu (with week ends), 10.2g and very nice packaging! thx!!
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About 21 days to East USA. Excellent stealth and shipping method. Product is light grey/white and was even overweight with plenty of decent sized rocks.
My only complaint would be that there were was a thin layer of dark impurities on some of the rocks (not sure if that's the correct thing to call it). I easily scrapped it off with a blade and either way, it's no matter at all considering the price and the fact that it was overweight.
An A+++ transaction! Thanks Dutch a million!!
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If don want to wait DON ORDER !!!!!
I am sick of all those people that crying that it take long...
we have most time 100+ package's a day we try to send theme fast ass possible!!!
FOR ONE TIME YOU DON WANT TO WAIT LONGER THEN NORMAL DON ORDER ORDER SOME WHERE ELSE !!!!!!!!!
Dutch we just ask that when you mark it in transit it actually is.. this is not the case legal or not I have had over 100 registered packs from DE and tracking takes 2-3 days to work.. Dutch said he sent before the outage and my tracking after 14 days in transit said just today it was it German post facility so basically just shipped. Just ask to be honest thats all man!!
For all you know it was dropped off at the post office and sat there for 2 weeks. I had a package from a different vendor do the same thing. Everyone knows the German post is all sorts of fucked up so you really shouldn't jump to conclusions that the delay was on Dutch's end. I mean seriously if there shipping a bunch of packages each day what does he have to gain by not shipping it? It just leads to more bitching and more messages that just waste his time. There is no benefit to him. Its been shown that even domestic packages can take 2 weeks. This is all stuff you might want to keep in mind before placing blame on anyone.
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Got 10 (+ .2) BEAUTIFUL grams of MDFUCKINGMA in the mail today.
And ordered 50 more.
Thanks, Dutch.
How long did your order take? It's been 15 days for two of my orders and the tracking numbers still don't even work. It's really frustrating!! :-[
My tracking finally works after 14 days!!! It says it was processed through German post today (22nd) no way Dutch sent it before the outage... the numbers take 2-3 days to work but this means he just sent the pack... no way it sat there for 2 weeks in the office.. I'm kinda pissed, just want an honest vendor!! >:( >:(
Im on day 16 and DCN is still not up...): Price is still amazing just wish the dcn was up, I'm going to have to sign for it right?
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Got 10 (+ .2) BEAUTIFUL grams of MDFUCKINGMA in the mail today.
And ordered 50 more.
Thanks, Dutch.
How long did your order take? It's been 15 days for two of my orders and the tracking numbers still don't even work. It's really frustrating!! :-[
My tracking finally works after 14 days!!! It says it was processed through German post today (22nd) no way Dutch sent it before the outage... the numbers take 2-3 days to work but this means he just sent the pack... no way it sat there for 2 weeks in the office.. I'm kinda pissed, just want an honest vendor!! >:( >:(
Im on day 16 and DCN is still not up...): Price is still amazing just wish the dcn was up, I'm going to have to sign for it right?
Same here, one of my DCN's don't work still :( and yes you will have to sign for it since it is registered mail.
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how many digits are supposed to be in the DCN. I've heard there are supposed to be 10digits. Does RM xx xxx xxx xDE sound correct? Any help is appreciate...
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Ordered 10Gs of Dutchaanbod's MDMA
It took 25 days to get to me (including 2 days to get marked in transit).
I don't live in Europe. Approx the same distance as Germany to USA.
Communication: 5/5 Very fast.
Attitude: 5/5 Friendly, polite.
Shipping: 5/5 Vendor takes the effort to ship from a less suspicious country and is honest about expected shipping time. Shipping time was long but the fact that it's not postmarked Netherlands is a huge plus.
Packaging: Airtight packaging. Good stealth and it will get through customs without problems but it is not as good as Cloudsurfer's stealth so 4.5/5 (Cloudsurfer is 5/5 and no one can compare).
Product: 5/5 Quality is as advertised. Color is tan with some blacking chunks. Product is 50% chunks and 50% grainy. No powder. Weight is on point. Cloudsurfer's product is washed and pure white, I think but Dutch's does not appear to be washed. But remember 10G of Dutch's MDMA is half the price of 10G of cloudsurfer's.
Over all: 5+/5 stellar vendor. I highly recommend this vendor. Don't look any further for your MDMA. Half The price of other vendors and quality is up there with the best. THIS IS THE GUY FOR MDMA.
His MDMA is the no. 1 best selling listing on the road. The reason for this is great vendor, great product, unbelievable price.
Trust Dutchaanbod. Good things come to those who wait.
@ Dutchaanbod - Keep up the good work. Very happy that you're successful and the no.1 listing on the road is your product. Congratulations. Product took sometime to get here but I'm very happy our deal.
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how many digits are supposed to be in the DCN. I've heard there are supposed to be 10digits. Does RM xx xxx xxx xDE sound correct? Any help is appreciate...
Can be 10 or 9.. technically according to usps it should be XX nnn nnn nnn XX but 10 digits is also possible... Mine is 9 but others here is 10 so no worries mate!! Just waiting game now ;)
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Got 10 (+ .2) BEAUTIFUL grams of MDFUCKINGMA in the mail today.
And ordered 50 more.
Thanks, Dutch.
How long did your order take? It's been 15 days for two of my orders and the tracking numbers still don't even work. It's really frustrating!! :-[
My tracking finally works after 14 days!!! It says it was processed through German post today (22nd) no way Dutch sent it before the outage... the numbers take 2-3 days to work but this means he just sent the pack... no way it sat there for 2 weeks in the office.. I'm kinda pissed, just want an honest vendor!! >:( >:(
Im on day 16 and DCN is still not up...): Price is still amazing just wish the dcn was up, I'm going to have to sign for it right?
Same here, one of my DCN's don't work still :( and yes you will have to sign for it since it is registered mail.
I had a 100 gram order arrive earlier this month to Eastern USA, I didn't have to sign it was waiting in my mail box when I got home one day. Not sure about the required signature seeing as I didn't have to sign for mine. Same size order from AH and I did have to sign for that package.
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On day 7 and was just provided the tracking number. Didn't need to request. Dealt with pretty much all the large molly vendors on that have come and gone and Dutch is by far my favorite so far. Especially when it comes to communication. Hopefully he stays around for a while.
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On day 7 and was just provided the tracking number. Didn't need to request. Dealt with pretty much all the large molly vendors on that have come and gone and Dutch is by far my favorite so far. Especially when it comes to communication. Hopefully he stays around for a while.
Same here, after 7 days 'in transit', Dutch provided tracking numbers as expected! Never messaged, and have never had to. My order was split up due to volume, and all tracking numbers have posted from Germany. Honestly, I'd almost suck his dick for everything he has done for me. I'm make twice my full-time job! Blacklist the haters, Dutch...You are killing it.
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how many digits are supposed to be in the DCN. I've heard there are supposed to be 10digits. Does RM xx xxx xxx xDE sound correct? Any help is appreciate...
Can be 10 or 9.. technically according to usps it should be XX nnn nnn nnn XX but 10 digits is also possible... Mine is 9 but others here is 10 so no worries mate!! Just waiting game now ;)
Thanks citystar31, I guess ill just kick back and wait.
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I finally received mine after 23 days to the U.K. Was a long time to wait and was a bit annoyed after reading that he never sent almost all of the packages out including mine but i'm glad that its here now and on the weekend too :D time to party haha. Hope everyone else gets their orders soon too.
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A friend of mine who ordered from dutchaanbod, was generously enough to provide me a small amount to test it myself before placing an order in the future .
It looks like brown sugar and has a delicious bubble gum aroma.
Started out with 80mg oral. After half an hour noticeable effects started to manifest. In comparison to the translucent clear mdma rocks I had this summer, the crystals from dutchaanbod seem to be more stimulating. Did a few re-doses in form of lines throughout the night (first time to try nasal route). It burns, but for me as a hobby masochist it was a rather pleasant burn.
All in all ca. 650mg were consumed in a within 19 hours. Still feeling good, side effects are just slightly pronounced.
Now if the comedown goes smoothly it would be perfect.
Next time I want mdma, I for sure will order from him :) Price is unbeatable and quality was the best I had in a long time.
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Hi people,
I'm very glad to tell you that I've well received my order this morning.
10,4G in a very remarkable packaging.
So I got it 24 days after the order was accepted, a little bit long but now I feel enough happy to care about it.
It is at home. POINT. ;D
I think I will reorder soon, in order to not be disturbed with postage (Christmas...).
Thank you Dutchaanbod, I'm sorry to have thought it would never come !
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Shipping time<Best price on the road
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So looks like 41 days have passed and I haven't gotten my package. Sucks because it was my first SR order, but it's all good. Dutch offered a refund on some of it, that's the most I can ask for. Really good vendor otherwise, great communication, really nice, they'll try to help you out as best as possible. I'll order from dutch again 5/5
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So, I placed 2 orders (10g and 30g) about 5 weeks ago. Got the first package of 10g the day Hurricane Sandy hit (11/5), but haven't gotten the other package yet. Any ideas on what could have happened? I'm hoping that the hurricane just really delayed it, but I'm getting worried that it just got lost or something... No love letter or anything. :/ East coast USA, btw.
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It looks like there have been some shipping delays. Can anyone confirm that these delays are getting shorter? I'm interested in a large bulk order but not if it's going to not make it here before new years.
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Both of my bulk order packs say they are still at the sorting center at germany when i track them. One arrived Nov 8, the other Nov 18. No other updates since then.
wtf?
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Both of my bulk order packs say they are still at the sorting center at germany when i track them. One arrived Nov 8, the other Nov 18. No other updates since then.
wtf?
Yea brother we all in the same situation.. NOV 8th was before tha black-out when Dutch said he shipped but all of our tracking are just updated at De post around this time so he didn't... can;t really blame him since who knew if the road would come back... but it always does and other Vendors were still shipping... honestly tho he might have just not even had the address but I thought when marked mean label was printed so who knows?? Either way nothing we can do about it but wait and still for the price, knock on wood, it comes I will be back even with the delay for the price and him being a great guy/vendor!!! ; ;)
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Both of my bulk order packs say they are still at the sorting center at germany when i track them. One arrived Nov 8, the other Nov 18. No other updates since then.
wtf?
Yea brother we all in the same situation.. NOV 8th was before tha black-out when Dutch said he shipped but all of our tracking are just updated at De post around this time so he didn't... can;t really blame him since who knew if the road would come back... but it always does and other Vendors were still shipping... honestly tho he might have just not even had the address but I thought when marked mean label was printed so who knows?? Either way nothing we can do about it but wait and still for the price, knock on wood, it comes I will be back even with the delay for the price and him being a great guy/vendor!!! ; ;)
On the German post website tracking I'm only able to see the last tracking event to occur. On my pack, I could see tracking for when the package got dropped off until the package reached the German sorting center at which time I couldn't see that first tracking event anymore. Only that tracking event at the Germany sorting center ever got sent into the USPS tracking system. International mail tracking is pretty weird, but just wanted to mention that if the first tracking event you saw was in the German sorting center then the package likely shipped several days before that based on my experience.
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It's been 19 days and my tracking still doesn't work :(
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Both of my bulk order packs say they are still at the sorting center at germany when i track them. One arrived Nov 8, the other Nov 18. No other updates since then.
wtf?
When were they "marked in transit"?
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LISTING WILL BE DOWN FOR SOME DAYS WE GONNA CHECK SOME THING'S HOW ITS POSSIBLE SOME PACKAGE"S TAKE LONGER THEN NORMAL...
DON ASK WHEN ITS BACK UP YOU WILL SEE IT ON THE MARKET..
DUTCHAANBOD
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do most likely the order i put in today will be cancled ?
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Both of my bulk order packs say they are still at the sorting center at germany when i track them. One arrived Nov 8, the other Nov 18. No other updates since then.
wtf?
When were they "marked in transit"?
They were marked "in transit" on October 30th and November 7th. I have no problem patiently waiting for a long time, but was just wondering how i could track every single step of my previous bulk orders from DA.
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I got my package eventually, it took a day or so past three weeks after status went in transit.
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I just want to say that Dutchaanbod has resolved my issues. The tracking number that I had that didn't work is now working. There was an error in the tracking number it had one extra digit. It was supposed to be only 9 digits but he sent it with an extra digit. After he sent me the correct tracking number missing a digit. It works. The package is already passed my customs too! Dutch I will finalize when i'm able to log onto SR, Thanks for eveything.
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today received about 3 weeks in eu, very slow the german mail and ive been some worried about this, but finally was here.
nice work dutch, good stealth packing too.
Regards, j.
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My bulk order package came today and was received in 19 days to the USA. Thanks DUTCH! My tracking number never worked because of an error in the numbers provided was one digit too long. It was supposed to be 9 digits instead of 10. It was a simple mistake on dutch's end but no major problems. Thanks Dutch.
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Received my order 18 days. Tracking only showed it being prepared, never updated at all. Thanks dutch!
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Order received within mainland EU 21 days after marked in transit. Great stealth packaging and amazing product (Molly).
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10g order still in transit after 25 days, shipping to west coast US. I'm still being patient, as I know some people have waited even longer. What seems strange to me is why some customers who's orders were marked in transit on the same day (Nov 1st), have already received their orders a week ago. I'm not sure what would delay mine so much.
But like I said, I'm remaining patient, and staying positive. It is easy to get paranoid though...
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First order ever, still in transit after 23 days. In NE US, so I realize it COULD take a while longer, although a lot of buyers in my area who bought around the same time as me have already received their package(s). Still staying hopeful, and keeping an eager eye on the mailbox. Will update if/when I get it...wish it was here already! :(
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First order as well, been over 20 days so far, staying hopeful that it will come this week to mid US. Its understandable that there were delays due to Thanksgiving weekend, I'm sure theres a lot of mail going through the system.
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Both of my bulk order packs say they are still at the sorting center at germany when i track them. One arrived Nov 8, the other Nov 18. No other updates since then.
wtf?
When were they "marked in transit"?
They were marked "in transit" on October 30th and November 7th. I have no problem patiently waiting for a long time, but was just wondering how i could track every single step of my previous bulk orders from DA.
If you still have tracking numbers for your previous orders they should still work. I'm not sure how long they will work for but mine does after almost 60 days. It took about 3 days from German post to ISC and then 4 days form ISC to my drop.
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im waiting aswell .i am currently on day 24 as its past 12 am. i really hope it comes soon as its my first order and that cherry tends to be a pretty nerve wreaking experience. every time the mailman comes i check the mailbox like a crackhead checking his pipe for residue.
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im waiting aswell .i am currently on day 24 as its past 12 am. i really hope it comes soon as its my first order and that cherry tends to be a pretty nerve wreaking experience. every time the mailman comes i check the mailbox like a crackhead checking his pipe for residue.
Haha I remember my first order :D
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also don't forget that it's holiday season so there will be delays.
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Also on day 25, it autofinalized during all this SR going down bull so I will certainly be updating.
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On day 23 waiting for a order. Just received a bulk order 19 days. The bulk order was shipped out after the one i'm currently waiting for, lol.
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I live in the western US, ordered 50g MDMA on the 20th or so. The tracking number on the 23rd said "Processed Through Sort Facility" in Frankfurt, Germany.
Should I be expecting more updated from USPS.com once it starts getting sent around the United States? Or does the tracking status end in the country of origin (Germany I assume in this case).
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AND IT CAME!!!
. FUCK YEAAAAA!!! it came in 24 days to Canada. will test after work :D:D:D .
My first ever order. wont be my last.
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I live in the western US, ordered 50g MDMA on the 20th or so. The tracking number on the 23rd said "Processed Through Sort Facility" in Frankfurt, Germany.
Should I be expecting more updated from USPS.com once it starts getting sent around the United States? Or does the tracking status end in the country of origin (Germany I assume in this case).
There's really no way of knowing, sometimes it never updates at all ..sometimes you can see every time it updates.
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Ordered 10 G, took about 24 days to receive, than I ordered another 20g still waiting on it.
Every one loved the product, and it tested fantastic.
Well worth the wait for the price, thanks dutch!
Oh and the packaging I think everyone had a good chuckle its pretty great.
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I placed an order on November 24th (before listings were taken down), and it's still processing. Just wondering if Dutch is holding off on sending orders that are still processing until listings are back up. I was hoping someone on the forums could answer so I don't have to bother Dutch as I'm sure he's busy. Thanks in advance
Peace and Love,
Z
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Placed a small 10g order with Dutch, seeing as it was my first purchase with him, order was in processing for 4 days then marked in transit. I have received it today after 23 days of being marked in transit, to Eastern USA, shipping is definitely creative, clever and efficient. Hopefully his method holds up for a longtime to come. Recieved alot of rocks in the package, tests out perfect, will try at a later date.
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I really wish listings were up, but i'm not here to complain. I obviously do not know where your shipping from, but could it be faster if you shipped from a more major city? (faster and more frequent mail/package pick up). Maybe i'm being stupid, just making suggestions. Good luck! hope to order soon.
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Placed a small 10g order with Dutch, seeing as it was my first purchase with him, order was in processing for 4 days then marked in transit. I have received it today after 23 days of being marked in transit, to Eastern USA, shipping is definitely creative, clever and efficient. Hopefully his method holds up for a longtime to come. Recieved alot of rocks in the package, tests out perfect, will try at a later date.
in the same situation. messaged dutch and he said he will be sending out all orders placed before he went stealth
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What is all the hysteria with everyone regarding delivery times?? Why don't you all just chill out and relax. Stating how long it takes or why you haven't yet received it, isn't going to speed up the delivery time.
I've ordered once before from Dutch, a few months ago, and I couldn't tell you how long it took because I didn't monitor it daily like it appears everyone on here does. Dutch allows you to be in escrow for orders under 50 g so why don't you all just use what coconuts you have left after all the drug taking, and realize he obviously isn't a scam artist.
These forums were supposed to be for somewhat intelligent discussion not people constantly bitching about how long their orders are taking. I placed a second order with Dutch a few days ago, and I won't even look at it again until it comes close to autofinalizing, at which time I will ask for an extension. I have no doubt my little 10g order, from Dutch, will arrive sometime.
Get lives guys (and girls) and leave the bitching about times off this forum
TD.
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Hey everyone. I've been getting MDMA off the road for a few months now and seen some variations in quality from Tony76's white sand to AfterHour and Pfandleiher's brown rocks to the greyish with black specks that Dutchaanbod is sending. My customers have reported variations in quality but I always attributed these to tolerances and setting changes. While I have no comparative proof I can say with some certainty that Dutchaanbod ships very high grade MDMA. I know this seems rather obvious but I did an acetone wash on 2g of crushed rock and came away with 1.8g of white sand. It looks quite pretty and almost fluffy. I just wanted to say that Dutch has very good product that is shipped very securely. Here is the tutorial if anyone wants to wash their MDMA like I did.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45508.0
Thanks to Dutchaanbod!
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23 days to NE USA, unfortunately didn't receive the package myself so I cannot attest to quality or appearance, but my buddy was absolutely blown away, and he has been eating molly by the shovel load for years now.
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Quick question, What's the longest anyone has had an order stay at GE sorting facility for 7+ days? My packs have been there 7 and 8 days with no updates :(
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ive had no problems with dutch what so ever,hes a great person,kudos to you.however since this thread has turned into a "how long does it take" thread iv been wondering whats the quickest time in which your product has arrived?mine was 9 days has anyone received quicker?
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IT FINALLY CAME!! Not like I didn't believe it was coming cuz I'm used to waiting for packages from EU because of the road lol but YESSSSS
haven't weight the 10g yet but it looks on point. Packaging was stealthy as fuck and perfect. Product looks like no other MDMA I've seen! white and black crystals with some big ass chunks in there! I have no doubt in it's potency though. Very smelly in that MDMA smelly way. Giving a bunch to my friends tho so they'll tell me how it goes :)
DUTCH YOU'RE AMAZING MAN!!!
EVERYONE: DO NOT WORRY. YOU'RE PACKAGE WILL COME!! It took about a month to get to the North Eastern US.
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ive had no problems with dutch what so ever,hes a great person,kudos to you.however since this thread has turned into a "how long does it take" thread iv been wondering whats the quickest time in which your product has arrived?mine was 9 days has anyone received quicker?
9 days to US?
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Quick question, What's the longest anyone has had an order stay at GE sorting facility for 7+ days? My packs have been there 7 and 8 days with no updates :(
SadPanda, don't be sad. I had my last 50g order sit at the ISC for 26 days, 31 days until it arrived.
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So, I placed 2 orders (10g and 30g) about 5 weeks ago. Got the first package of 10g the day Hurricane Sandy hit (11/5), but haven't gotten the other package yet. Any ideas on what could have happened? I'm hoping that the hurricane just really delayed it, but I'm getting worried that it just got lost or something... No love letter or anything. :/ East coast USA, btw.
Update: Came in two days ago, just gotta be patient :)
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Quick question, What's the longest anyone has had an order stay at GE sorting facility for 7+ days? My packs have been there 7 and 8 days with no updates :(
SadPanda, don't be sad. I had my last 50g order sit at the ISC for 26 days, 31 days until it arrived.
Wow that's a long ass time. Mine have been in transit for 21 days, and haven't been updated at German facility for 8 days. I hear some people say their tracking never updates and packages arrive. Hopefully that's the case for me. This would be my lost post on this thread until I do receive. PE@CE
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Tracking does not always update. I learned that when I was ordering things from ebay.
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sorry to break any hearts but sadly no 9days to the uk.im jus curious if anyonme has got quicker? 8)
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-Ordered 10g took 28 days after marked "in transit" to Mid Eastern US.
-Packaging was excellent, very safe.
-Product was dark brown and rocky with some chunks, haven't tried it yet, but the consensus seems to be its amazing.
-Dutch was polite in my dealings with him, and seems to really care about his customers. Excellent vendor and glad he picked up a lot of PF's business.
-Will definitely order again.
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9 days to US?
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sorry to break any hearts but sadly no 9days to the uk.im jus curious if anyonme has got quicker? 8)
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First 2 orders got here in 5 work days after marked in transit.
To another non border EU country.
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SE usa 40g's non tracked about 30 days. he is having problems with his re shipper as we have been shorted over an oz and things are post dated on this last one 9 days after marked in transit. but his product is great and i trust dutch himself.
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GOD DAMN!
10 days to West Coast US
quality is amazing and the smell is almost too strong to handle
100% satisfied
stealth is so-so, kind of obvious packaging but it got here safe and that's all that counts
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tracked or not would be helpful??
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I'm curious, how long has yours guys' stuff taken to be received to the US after receiving the following status?
Processed Through Sort Facility
November xx, 2012, xx:xx am
XXXXXX, GERMANY
What is all the hysteria with everyone regarding delivery times?? Why don't you all just chill out and relax. Stating how long it takes or why you haven't yet received it, isn't going to speed up the delivery time.
I've ordered once before from Dutch, a few months ago, and I couldn't tell you how long it took because I didn't monitor it daily like it appears everyone on here does. Dutch allows you to be in escrow for orders under 50 g so why don't you all just use what coconuts you have left after all the drug taking, and realize he obviously isn't a scam artist.
These forums were supposed to be for somewhat intelligent discussion not people constantly bitching about how long their orders are taking. I placed a second order with Dutch a few days ago, and I won't even look at it again until it comes close to autofinalizing, at which time I will ask for an extension. I have no doubt my little 10g order, from Dutch, will arrive sometime.
Get lives guys (and girls) and leave the bitching about times off this forum
TD.
Listen, a lot of people on here sell some of our products to acquaintances and those acquaintances are constantly hounding us. When we sell to them we also receive money in return. Getting an idea of the schedule helps keep our acquaintances from bugging us and helps us budget correctly I know it's annoying to see almost all of the posts here talking about shipping times but that's because German shipping seems to have slowed down during the last month and this is the most reasonable thread to discuss it as it applies to Dutch, etc. I bet most people asking aren't actually worried about being scammed anyway, they're more concerned with the points I listed (that or just want to get high this weekend and don't have a backup stash).
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I'm curious, how long has yours guys' stuff taken to be received to the US after receiving the following status?
Processed Through Sort Facility
November xx, 2012, xx:xx am
XXXXXX, GERMANY
What is all the hysteria with everyone regarding delivery times?? Why don't you all just chill out and relax. Stating how long it takes or why you haven't yet received it, isn't going to speed up the delivery time.
I've ordered once before from Dutch, a few months ago, and I couldn't tell you how long it took because I didn't monitor it daily like it appears everyone on here does. Dutch allows you to be in escrow for orders under 50 g so why don't you all just use what coconuts you have left after all the drug taking, and realize he obviously isn't a scam artist.
These forums were supposed to be for somewhat intelligent discussion not people constantly bitching about how long their orders are taking. I placed a second order with Dutch a few days ago, and I won't even look at it again until it comes close to autofinalizing, at which time I will ask for an extension. I have no doubt my little 10g order, from Dutch, will arrive sometime.
Get lives guys (and girls) and leave the bitching about times off this forum
TD.
Listen, a lot of people on here sell some of our products to acquaintances and those acquaintances are constantly hounding us. When we sell to them we also receive money in return. Getting an idea of the schedule helps keep our acquaintances from bugging us and helps us budget correctly I know it's annoying to see almost all of the posts here talking about shipping times but that's because German shipping seems to have slowed down during the last month and this is the most reasonable thread to discuss it as it applies to Dutch, etc. I bet most people asking aren't actually worried about being scammed anyway, they're more concerned with the points I listed (that or just want to get high this weekend and don't have a backup stash).
Well said!! I couldn't have put it any better!! +1 for you buddy
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Dutch says he has taken his listings offline to check why packages are getting delayed.
I just hope his shipping method is not compromised.
I was very disappointed to see the listings down, as i was just about to place an order.....
Its a Saaaaaaaaad day....
I wants my molly....
:'( :'( :'(
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Dutch says he has taken his listings offline to check why packages are getting delayed.
I just hope his shipping method is not compromised.
I was very disappointed to see the listings down, as i was just about to place an order.....
Its a Saaaaaaaaad day....
I wants my molly....
:'( :'( :'(
It's all good brotha. We should be happy Dutch is doing quality control on his shipping, clearly he cares about it. Also, considering his vendor page has nearly 4 people finalizing an hour, I'd say packages are still making it ;)
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It's all good brotha. We should be happy Dutch is doing quality control on his shipping, clearly he cares about it. Also, considering his vendor page has nearly 4 people finalizing an hour, I'd say packages are still making it ;)
Yup. I completely agree. Its actually my fuck up. i was feeling lazy to go out and buy the bitcoins just a day before he put his listings down....
Unfortunately i have people hounding me for the molly.
:D
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GOD DAMN!
10 days to West Coast US
quality is amazing and the smell is almost too strong to handle
100% satisfied
stealth is so-so, kind of obvious packaging but it got here safe and that's all that counts
10 days! That's remarkable for US shipping, by far the fastest any american has ever reported recieving from dutch. Is that 10 days from marked in transit? Including weekends?
Also, what do you mean the packaging is obvious? My incoming 10g order goes through many hands that ought not to know its contents before I get it. Would you say there are any red flags with his stealth that I should be worried about?
I'm also 12 days in so...lucky bastard lol
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My last order from Dutch took only 8 days to the states after being marked in transit. The post is a strange thing. Im waiting on another one now and Im on day 9 I think. Im in no way expecting the luck I had last time however. I try not to even think about it. It will be a nice surprise to see it in my box. :)
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It's all good brotha. We should be happy Dutch is doing quality control on his shipping, clearly he cares about it. Also, considering his vendor page has nearly 4 people finalizing an hour, I'd say packages are still making it ;)
Yup. I completely agree. Its actually my fuck up. i was feeling lazy to go out and buy the bitcoins just a day before he put his listings down....
Unfortunately i have people hounding me for the molly.
:D
I'm in the se us and I'm on day 13....no complaints, I'm a patient person
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I live in the western USA and this is where I'm at:
Transaction Submitted November 15th (14 days ago)
Order Marked "In Transit" ~November 18th (11 days ago)
Order "Processed Through Sort Facility" November 23rd (6 days ago)
I really don't expect to receive my order until next Friday at the earliest. It's always hard to figure out why transit times fluctuate so much between individual orders and between time periods. We had Hurricane Sandy to blame, and then Thanksgiving (is this even celebrated in Europe?), and now we might have the Holiday season affecting transit times.
I have found that I'd rather have two 50g MDMA orders from two different vendors, one coming every two weeks, than one 100g order coming once a month. When you already have a supply at your place it helps distract you from waiting for the next order. Plus if a vendor goes rogue your money is "hedged" so to speak.
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Waiting on my first order from Dutch. Its been 21 days in transit on a 10g package. Hopefully itll arrive before Dec. 7th
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My last order from Dutch took only 8 days to the states after being marked in transit. The post is a strange thing. Im waiting on another one now and Im on day 9 I think. Im in no way expecting the luck I had last time however. I try not to even think about it. It will be a nice surprise to see it in my box. :)
now thats a good time,pity it cant be like that for everyone but aww well the product is definitely worth the wait 8)
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My tracking still says at german post and its been like 23 days???
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Ok.So one of my packages is at my local post office.Has been at German sorting facility since Nov 20. I will update on stealth/quality once it arrives. Has been in "transit" for 22 days. My last package took about 7-8 days since German sorting facility, so my guess is my other packages should arrive in 3-5 days. Thanks Dutch. Sorry for ranting earlier, I was just a bit frustrated.
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Took 13 days to west europe. Perfect as usual, no delay, good product.
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My last order from Dutch took only 8 days to the states after being marked in transit. The post is a strange thing. Im waiting on another one now and Im on day 9 I think. Im in no way expecting the luck I had last time however. I try not to even think about it. It will be a nice surprise to see it in my box. :)
now thats a good time,pity it cant be like that for everyone but aww well the product is definitely worth the wait 8)
Dutch's price and quality is most certaintly worth waiting for.
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Day 22 Into my first order from Dutch.
Tracking still doesn't work :-\
However great communication. I am not worried Dutch seems to be an honest vendor.
Hopefully my order comes thru with no issues.
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My last order from Dutch took only 8 days to the states after being marked in transit. The post is a strange thing. Im waiting on another one now and Im on day 9 I think. Im in no way expecting the luck I had last time however. I try not to even think about it. It will be a nice surprise to see it in my box. :)
now thats a good time,pity it cant be like that for everyone but aww well the product is definitely worth the wait 8)
Dutch's price and quality is most certaintly worth waiting for.
Agreed....the wait time is a real bitch but TOTALLY worth it.
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My last order from Dutch took only 8 days to the states after being marked in transit. The post is a strange thing. Im waiting on another one now and Im on day 9 I think. Im in no way expecting the luck I had last time however. I try not to even think about it. It will be a nice surprise to see it in my box. :)
now thats a good time,pity it cant be like that for everyone but aww well the product is definitely worth the wait 8)
Dutch's price and quality is most certaintly worth waiting for.
And the stealth is fantastic!
Definitely worth waiting for.
I've never waited longer than 3 weeks from DA.
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Listen, a lot of people on here sell some of our products to acquaintances and those acquaintances are constantly hounding us. When we sell to them we also receive money in return. Getting an idea of the schedule helps keep our acquaintances from bugging us and helps us budget correctly I know it's annoying to see almost all of the posts here talking about shipping times but that's because German shipping seems to have slowed down during the last month and this is the most reasonable thread to discuss it as it applies to Dutch, etc. I bet most people asking aren't actually worried about being scammed anyway, they're more concerned with the points I listed (that or just want to get high this weekend and don't have a backup stash).
And someone telling you that they got theirs in 21.5 days while someone else got theirs in 17.65 days really adds valuable information does it?
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Listen, a lot of people on here sell some of our products to acquaintances and those acquaintances are constantly hounding us. When we sell to them we also receive money in return. Getting an idea of the schedule helps keep our acquaintances from bugging us and helps us budget correctly I know it's annoying to see almost all of the posts here talking about shipping times but that's because German shipping seems to have slowed down during the last month and this is the most reasonable thread to discuss it as it applies to Dutch, etc. I bet most people asking aren't actually worried about being scammed anyway, they're more concerned with the points I listed (that or just want to get high this weekend and don't have a backup stash).
And someone telling you that they got theirs in 21.5 days while someone else got theirs in 17.65 days really adds valuable information does it?
It does. You don't understand. When you have "client's or "customers' asking how long until you re-up... and you say " no longer than 15 days" then that 16th day comes and then they're hitting you up stressing you out more than you need to be stressed. You just give them an estimate.The avg shipping times are about 17-20 days from DA. OF coarse you would never understand since you're spending what we sell to just one person. Of coarse I wouldn't care If I just spent 180 bucks for somethin and hopefully it would come one day, shit I keep at least that much in my account all the time. Ok, so you would be pretty pissed if you were lied to and had been told your package was already sent, when in reality, it wasn't, and didn't get sent till a week later. Nobody here is saying he's a scammer, he's just not as honest as he seems. But when someone like you doesn't give a fuck of when they get their fix or not, just as long as they get it, it doesn't really fucking matter does it? So please, just shut the fuck up,
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And someone telling you that they got theirs in 21.5 days while someone else got theirs in 17.65 days really adds valuable information does it?
As Snickers said, it does. But also keep in mind we're talking more like 14 vs. 25-28 days. It's also about reading into trends so that if it ends up being more like 35+ days (as was the case with the most popular vendor, SuperTrips) that we can get plenty of warning.
I don't know how else to explain it. Different people have different needs / interests.
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"If you don want to wait don order". Something you should know, no matter what size your order is.
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I know these orders take a while. Thus far I've been fortunate enough to receive it before the 17 days autofinalize. My question is, how do I go about "extending" it so it doesnt autofinalize as Ive heard people doing? Thanks.
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I know these orders take a while. Thus far I've been fortunate enough to receive it before the 17 days autofinalize. My question is, how do I go about "extending" it so it doesnt autofinalize as Ive heard people doing? Thanks.
After a certain amount of days you can hit the resolve button and can extend the days in there.
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I know these orders take a while. Thus far I've been fortunate enough to receive it before the 17 days autofinalize. My question is, how do I go about "extending" it so it doesnt autofinalize as Ive heard people doing? Thanks.
When and to what country did you order? To another EU?
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25 days and still At the De post lol!! Ah German Post is soo sow... and I thought USPS was the absolute worst it got haha ;)
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Listen, a lot of people on here sell some of our products to acquaintances and those acquaintances are constantly hounding us. When we sell to them we also receive money in return. Getting an idea of the schedule helps keep our acquaintances from bugging us and helps us budget correctly I know it's annoying to see almost all of the posts here talking about shipping times but that's because German shipping seems to have slowed down during the last month and this is the most reasonable thread to discuss it as it applies to Dutch, etc. I bet most people asking aren't actually worried about being scammed anyway, they're more concerned with the points I listed (that or just want to get high this weekend and don't have a backup stash).
And someone telling you that they got theirs in 21.5 days while someone else got theirs in 17.65 days really adds valuable information does it?
It does. You don't understand. When you have "client's or "customers' asking how long until you re-up... and you say " no longer than 15 days" then that 16th day comes and then they're hitting you up stressing you out more than you need to be stressed. You just give them an estimate.The avg shipping times are about 17-20 days from DA. OF coarse you would never understand since you're spending what we sell to just one person. Of coarse I wouldn't care If I just spent 180 bucks for somethin and hopefully it would come one day, shit I keep at least that much in my account all the time. Ok, so you would be pretty pissed if you were lied to and had been told your package was already sent, when in reality, it wasn't, and didn't get sent till a week later. Nobody here is saying he's a scammer, he's just not as honest as he seems. But when someone like you doesn't give a fuck of when they get their fix or not, just as long as they get it, it doesn't really fucking matter does it? So please, just shut the fuck up,
So obviously your drug filled brain just reverts to obscenity when you cannot argue a salient point.
Nothing you say in your argument is relevant, because all you have to say to your drug dependent customers is to expect it in a month and if they get it sooner..what a bonus. I believe all this continual bickering is because you obviously cannot afford to lose a shipment and if you're that hard up for drugs...you have a serious problem. Rather spend your money in rehab or with a good counselor instead of dealing to people who lack control. The use of scheduled drugs should be licensed the same way you license to drive a car...it would then bring responsibility..something which you lack in large amounts.
GET HELP you halfwit!
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25 days and still At the De post lol!! Ah German Post is soo sow... and I thought USPS was the absolute worst it got haha ;)
Never trust the tracking updates...You may even get your pack tomorrow, who knows...But what I do know with my experience with shipping and receiving is that a lot of the times the tracking doesn't get updated and it nay very well say your pack is at the process center hundreds of miles away and in reality it is on the mail truck about to get dropped off in your mailbox. Just giving some hope to you guys with tracking...I'm on day 15 btw
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my last pack from dutch came 14 days to the prude land, today is day 14 for my current pack(assuming it was sent within a day or two of being marked in transit).......the anticipation is killing me. So is the though potential profit :) (its already sold!)
and to all the people hatin about people posting about their shipping times.....waa waa its a fuckin forum what else do you expect.
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Listen, a lot of people on here sell some of our products to acquaintances and those acquaintances are constantly hounding us. When we sell to them we also receive money in return. Getting an idea of the schedule helps keep our acquaintances from bugging us and helps us budget correctly I know it's annoying to see almost all of the posts here talking about shipping times but that's because German shipping seems to have slowed down during the last month and this is the most reasonable thread to discuss it as it applies to Dutch, etc. I bet most people asking aren't actually worried about being scammed anyway, they're more concerned with the points I listed (that or just want to get high this weekend and don't have a backup stash).
And someone telling you that they got theirs in 21.5 days while someone else got theirs in 17.65 days really adds valuable information does it?
It does. You don't understand. When you have "client's or "customers' asking how long until you re-up... and you say " no longer than 15 days" then that 16th day comes and then they're hitting you up stressing you out more than you need to be stressed. You just give them an estimate.The avg shipping times are about 17-20 days from DA. OF coarse you would never understand since you're spending what we sell to just one person. Of coarse I wouldn't care If I just spent 180 bucks for somethin and hopefully it would come one day, shit I keep at least that much in my account all the time. Ok, so you would be pretty pissed if you were lied to and had been told your package was already sent, when in reality, it wasn't, and didn't get sent till a week later. Nobody here is saying he's a scammer, he's just not as honest as he seems. But when someone like you doesn't give a fuck of when they get their fix or not, just as long as they get it, it doesn't really fucking matter does it? So please, just shut the fuck up,
So obviously your drug filled brain just reverts to obscenity when you cannot argue a salient point.
Nothing you say in your argument is relevant, because all you have to say to your drug dependent customers is to expect it in a month and if they get it sooner..what a bonus. I believe all this continual bickering is because you obviously cannot afford to lose a shipment and if you're that hard up for drugs...you have a serious problem. Rather spend your money in rehab or with a good counselor instead of dealing to people who lack control. The use of scheduled drugs should be licensed the same way you license to drive a car...it would then bring responsibility..something which you lack in large amounts.
GET HELP you halfwit!
LOL you don't even know me, but ok whatever you say you are totally right!! :D
p.s. EAT MY SHORTS!! ;D ;D ;D
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ordered 10g MDMA. took a really long time to get to me (i'm in EU)
the MDMA is not the best i had in my life but it is good.
some very dark crystals but the most are of lighter colour with some powdered MDMA.
for the price it's a great deal imho
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Ok so received one of my 100g packs yesterday. Was marked in transit Nov 9 so a total of 20 days in transit. Stealth is so so, was expecting better stealth since everyone raves about it, but I don't think it's any more special than PF or ST. Was mostly broken up shards kind of like grainy sand, no big boulders which is fine with me since I have to break it up anyways. Reeked of black liquorice, and the color is none like I've ever seen before. Looks really dark/grey, reminds me of sand when it's wet. Took a few photos, so here they are, sorry quality is so shitty. Still waiting on 2 more packs in transit for 23 days. USA BTW.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=982892d8d845914197b2565ce64a654e.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=47604a5df75482fe3a07441ed862429e.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=63151b762fc4ee03e5f448d451b5ec24.jpg
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Ok so received one of my 100g packs yesterday. Was marked in transit Nov 9 so a total of 20 days in transit. Stealth is so so, was expecting better stealth since everyone raves about it, but I don't think it's any more special than PF or ST. Was mostly broken up shards kind of like grainy sand, no big boulders which is fine with me since I have to break it up anyways. Reeked of black liquorice, and the color is none like I've ever seen before. Looks really dark/grey, reminds me of sand when it's wet. Took a few photos, so here they are, sorry quality is so shitty. Still waiting on 2 more packs in transit for 23 days. USA BTW.
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Lucky you ;) mine went out same day and tracking still says in Germany lol!!
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Ok so received one of my 100g packs yesterday. Was marked in transit Nov 9 so a total of 20 days in transit. Stealth is so so, was expecting better stealth since everyone raves about it, but I don't think it's any more special than PF or ST. Was mostly broken up shards kind of like grainy sand, no big boulders which is fine with me since I have to break it up anyways. Reeked of black liquorice, and the color is none like I've ever seen before. Looks really dark/grey, reminds me of sand when it's wet. Took a few photos, so here they are, sorry quality is so shitty. Still waiting on 2 more packs in transit for 23 days. USA BTW.
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Lucky you ;) mine went out same day and tracking still says in Germany lol!!
Don't worry yours should come soon...my other ones are still in Germany too but I believe they will be here no later than Tuesday!!
BTW a few friends tried some last night, they didn't give much detail all they said the MDMA is really strong and they had slight hallucinations. They feel fine today, a normal MDMA hangover.
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Listing is back up !
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Listing is back up !
Greats Dutchaanbod
Find out what's been going on and why the tracking numbers don't work... I feel bad for you cause rule is FE once sorting center but I can't get out of Germany lol??
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Listing is back up !
Greats Dutchaanbod
Find out what's been going on and why the tracking numbers don't work... I feel bad for you cause rule is FE once sorting center but I can't get out of Germany lol??
Possible that US ISC missed the scan. Then the package sits in ISC 1-30 days. Although sometimes they scan it but it doesn't show up on tracking until sometime later.
Are you using the german post tracking website or USPS? I haven't had mine show up on USPS until it hit USPS ISC.
international post tracking is definitely weird and so it their handling of mail (eg lack of FIFO).
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Listing is back up !
Greats Dutchaanbod
Find out what's been going on and why the tracking numbers don't work... I feel bad for you cause rule is FE once sorting center but I can't get out of Germany lol??
The tracking on German post always updates really slow or not at all. Same thing whenever I order electronics from Germany.
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Ok so received one of my 100g packs yesterday. Was marked in transit Nov 9 so a total of 20 days in transit. Stealth is so so, was expecting better stealth since everyone raves about it, but I don't think it's any more special than PF or ST. Was mostly broken up shards kind of like grainy sand, no big boulders which is fine with me since I have to break it up anyways. Reeked of black liquorice, and the color is none like I've ever seen before. Looks really dark/grey, reminds me of sand when it's wet. Took a few photos, so here they are, sorry quality is so shitty. Still waiting on 2 more packs in transit for 23 days. USA BTW.
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might want to take a look at http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45508.0 if u want to do a wash. does look "wet"/odd can someone confirm this phenom?
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Mine was the exact batch, veeery gray with a strong smell. It was fully dry though, and a wash gave back the usual (what I got back from the almost odorless clear/white batch)
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Sometimes I'm tempted to do a wash. Other times I question if it is worth it. If I wash it then I would like to recrystallize it, but I've discovered that epson salt (MgSO4) is slightly soluble in IPA which means that there may be some Epson salt in the MDMA after the crystallization is complete.
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I only wash personal stashes, not worth washing excess. Getting better at Cocaine washes which I think everyone should do.
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Ok so received one of my 100g packs yesterday. Was marked in transit Nov 9 so a total of 20 days in transit. Stealth is so so, was expecting better stealth since everyone raves about it, but I don't think it's any more special than PF or ST. Was mostly broken up shards kind of like grainy sand, no big boulders which is fine with me since I have to break it up anyways. Reeked of black liquorice, and the color is none like I've ever seen before. Looks really dark/grey, reminds me of sand when it's wet. Took a few photos, so here they are, sorry quality is so shitty. Still waiting on 2 more packs in transit for 23 days. USA BTW.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=982892d8d845914197b2565ce64a654e.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=47604a5df75482fe3a07441ed862429e.jpg
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might want to take a look at http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45508.0 if u want to do a wash. does look "wet"/odd can someone confirm this phenom?
Sorry for the confusion, I meant the "color" looked like the "color" of grey wet sand. It is indeed dry, very dark grey with some black shards. I almost found some brown rocks in there too.
I only wash personal stashes, not worth washing excess. Getting better at Cocaine washes which I think everyone should do.
How much did you lose when you did a wash? I've never done a wash, is there a significant difference in the roll when you wash?
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Thanks Dutch, will be ordering soon!
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So my 2nd packages tracking updated today.It says notice left, but there was no notice. What should I do? If it was a CD they would try to sting you at home correct?
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So my 2nd packages tracking updated today.It says notice left, but there was no notice. What should I do? If it was a CD they would try to sting you at home correct?
Is the post office zip code correct?
I would call or go to the post office on Monday and pick it up. Let us know if you find that there was a mistake on the address label although I'd think the postman would be able to figure it out based on your name.
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Package arrived yesterday, about 30 days. Product was gray, mostly small shards, but there were some nice big half gram rocks in there.
When testing it went STRAIGHT to purple/black, it fizzled, crackled and even smoked. This shit is FIRE QUALITY!
Will definitely order again very soon :)
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Hi all
We take a pause for about 2 weeks...
Listing will be back up around 15/15 december...
Hope your people understand this..
greats Dutchaanbod
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Hi all
We take a pause for about 2 weeks...
Listing will be back up around 15/15 december...
Hope your people understand this..
greats Dutchaanbod
You still going to be around for resolution issues and important messages? Ever find out why packs are taking so long and my tracking still says in DE.. I want to Finalize man!!
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Hey guys I forgot to mention to ya'll I did not sign for my package. I opened the mailbox and it was just sitting in there. I can still check the packages tracking and it says its still getting ready in Germany. Seems like the only scan on my package was the originating scan. I do have another care package on its way from Dutch, have no worries it will be here..
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Hey guys I forgot to mention to ya'll I did not sign for my package. I opened the mailbox and it was just sitting in there. I can still check the packages tracking and it says its still getting ready in Germany. Seems like the only scan on my package was the originating scan. I do have another care package on its way from Dutch, have no worries it will be here..
USPS seems to often miss those small registered mail barcodes that Germany uses.
Glad it came through for 'ya.
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Dutch sent me a message saying my tracking number works and i said it was in UK but when i type it into USPS.com it doesnt work....
Any ideas on a different site to check or anything.
Sorry to bug its just i need an idea when to be at my drop location.
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Dutch sent me a message saying my tracking number works and i said it was in UK but when i type it into USPS.com it doesnt work....
Any ideas on a different site to check or anything.
Sorry to bug its just i need an idea when to be at my drop location.
USPS's tracking system is terribly unreliable, unfortunately. Assuming you're in the US, I'd say wait at least 7 days minimum from the time of "origin post preparing" (or whatever the syntax is of the status update) before expecting delivery.
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Got my 10g order in earlier this week about 25 days from when it was put in transit to midwest US... odd color between light and dark grey... smells like the real deal and fizzed and went to black when tested.... just was alittle thrown off with the color first time having mdma this dark grey... but im sure its fine and will be actually testing soon and will update when i do
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Ohhh Noooo! I just got BTC, after reading the listings would be up dec. 1-2... now it will be longer.. I see no vendor with the lovelyl dutch prices.. No complaints on the dark gray stuff so far.. Dutch I send you best wishes and hope you are back with us soon.
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Just ordered 20g from him the other day. went out and got bitcoins just for it. Hopefully he will process it and finish up sending order that he just received. I'm counting on his stuff to get here sooner rather then later. I ordered 10g last month. got here quick and everybody LOVES it so far.
So if your reading this DUTCHAANBOD, will you send out the orders that were placed yesterday?
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Hi all
We take a pause for about 2 weeks...
Listing will be back up around 15/15 december...
Hope your people understand this..
greats Dutchaanbod
You still going to be around for resolution issues and important messages? Ever find out why packs are taking so long and my tracking still says in DE.. I want to Finalize man!!
I will logging each day to answer message's the packing guys need some rust :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Hi all
We take a pause for about 2 weeks...
Listing will be back up around 15/15 december...
Hope your people understand this..
greats Dutchaanbod
You still going to be around for resolution issues and important messages? Ever find out why packs are taking so long and my tracking still says in DE.. I want to Finalize man!!
I will logging each day to answer message's the packing guys need some rust :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
Long Live Dutchaanbod!!
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Does anybody here knows how to change the color of these?? i can not get rid of these if it's Brown/Grey. Like Brown/grey stuff is unheard of around here. Im freaking out!
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Does anybody here knows how to change the color of these?? i can not get rid of these if it's Brown/Grey. Like Brown/grey stuff is unheard of around here. Im freaking out!
You would have to put it through an acetone wash. I personally don't feel as if it would be worth the trouble. I would get rid of a few at a discount price and let the word spread that it's still great stuff. next thing you know it sells itself.
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Does anybody here knows how to change the color of these?? i can not get rid of these if it's Brown/Grey. Like Brown/grey stuff is unheard of around here. Im freaking out!
Well stop freaking out, your not selling fake shit. Its top notch. Make them try it out, thats all. If you want to change the colour that bad, you'll have to wash it, and you'll end up losing a bit.
Lost a 40g order to India. Dutch gave me 50% refund. Not happy at all, i was praying for it each night :(
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does it still have the same effect? and what do you mean by losing any? Can people get hurt from these acetone washes? Isn't acetone nail polish remover??? i dont want to poison anyone!
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does it still have the same effect? and what do you mean by losing any? Can people get hurt from these acetone washes? Isn't acetone nail polish remover??? i dont want to poison anyone!
He means losing the susbstance(mdma) a bit with washing, not losing the people :)
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does it still have the same effect? and what do you mean by losing any? Can people get hurt from these acetone washes? Isn't acetone nail polish remover??? i dont want to poison anyone!
Pure MDMA hydrochloride is white/clear but it seems that underground MDMA chemists don't bother to wash out all of the impurities, maybe because they are lazy or in a hurry but in regards to MDMA there is probably another reason: many MDMA customers have come to regard the brown MDMA as the best stuff because that's their experience. The brown color (and root beer odor) come from left-over sassafras. Sassafras is a key ingredient in the traditional method of synthesizing MDMA. Much of the stuff improperly sold as MDMA (eg methylone) is clear/white and so users have associated the brown stuff with the real stuff.
What color are your users used to? If they are used to getting clear/white then I question if they are even getting MDMA. Methylone does have similar effects, although certainly not exactly the same and it certainly requires more. If your users report taking 300mg+ then they aren't getting real MDMA.
You can do an acetone wash to wash out the impurities. Multiple acetone washes yield an increasingly pure product, giving your customers a higher quality product. It isn't poisonous to your users because you let the acetone evaporate. There are many poisonous chemicals produced while producing drugs like MDMA. What's important is that you deliver a safe product in the end.
There are a few drawbacks to the acetone wash. First is that it takes time. Second is that while cheap, it does cost you some money (ideally you'll use reagent grade high purity low/no water acetone). Third is that some of the MDMA will be lost in the process (the better your acetone/process the less loss I'd think). Last, the final product will be a white powder and for no good reason people prefer the larger crystallized chunks of MDMA. You can recrystallize it with something like isopropyl alcohol (IPA), but from what I understand you also need a lab that can pressurize the MDMA during crystallization to produce the larger chunks. Also, using you would probably need to use Epson salt (MgSO4) with the IPA and I believe that's going to leave a little bit of residual MgSO4 in the final product because MgSO4 is slightly soluble in IPA.
All of this said, I'm not a chemist.
You can use the reagent tests to prove to your customers that what you have is MDMA. I hear that this MDMA will smoke or pop at the end which often impresses customers. Also, the stuff is so good that once they try it they'll be sold.
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Nooooo :/ Why didn't I order earlier :((( Got nothing for new years and it might be too late to order when he comes back :( SHIIT!
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I just wanted to say, 200 gram order arrived today to east USA after TEN DAYS of tracking posting from Germany...It did not update again until it was in my city. Nineteen days total from the day I placed my order. I've order from MANY vendors here over 1 1/2 years and all my customers say Dutch's product is straight FIRE.
Dutch, you make MANY people happy around here, and you make me very happy!! The holidays are going to be fucking wild!!! Enjoy the break my friend :)
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Dutch is a top notch vendor. Quality and price is always super fire. Still waiting on my 4th order to come in. 29 days now and waiting; should be here any day now.
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Dutch is a top notch vendor. Quality and price is always super fire. Still waiting on my 4th order to come in. 29 days now and waiting; should be here any day now.
If you don't mind, are you in the US? If so, left coast or right or the middle somewhere lol? I'm on day 18 today on the right coast, mail runs at 4 pm here and I can't wait to check it ...I will update lol
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S0 MUCH LOVE 4 DUTCH!! You are the best for real!
sent my order to resolution yesterday after 16 days, and lo and behold my tracking number shows it at the local post office today!! Should be here tomorrow and i will update, but im expecting 18 days to the midwest US. Dutch has defiantly earned an extended break!
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I was gonna make an order from DA, but i had to wait for him to 'come back' on the 1st or 2nd. I missed it, but I'm alright with that because I don't wanna worry about it getting shipped out immediately or when he got back. I was a little nervous about ordering now anyways because i need it by the new years, though my last order arrived in 16/17 days(including weekends).
That being said, I'm looking at a few other vendors, but I hope they will hold up to DA's quality even if they can't match his price. When he comes back I'll definitely go to him with all my MDMA needs. :D
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awwwl killin me dutch with the postings going down right as I was about to order!
oh well, you still da best
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I live in the western USA and just received my package today.
Transaction Submitted November 15th (18 days ago)
Order Marked "In Transit" ~November 18th (15 days ago)
Order "Processed Through Sort Facility" November 23rd (11 days ago)
After Hurricane Sandy pushed everyone's transits times up and with Thanksgiving in the US I was not expecting my package to arrive until ~25-30 days after I ordered but I am more than happy that it took only 18 days from the day I submitted the order.
Weight looks fine, possibly even a bit heavy (hard to tell since it's still in the vacuum sealed wrap). Haven't tested but based on what I've read here it seems that Dutch's stuff is top of the line. Very satisfied with my order at this point =D
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Snuck in with my order before this latest break :D! Will update when it arrives.
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Order came through!
While we haven't had a chance to try it personally, a friend of a friend did and got really high. Like, holy fuck, what did I just do high. You have to understand that there hasn't been quality stuff in our area for a very long time, so this person probably underestimated it, didn't measure out a dosage, and/or had been drunk beforehand. It's going to be a little while until my life frees up so I can try it out, but I was wondering if people could describe what the high is like?
Do you feel like dancing, or does it floor you and you only want to sit?
Do you get visuals? Is it trippy? or are you more clear headed?
do you get jaw clenching?
do you get a body load in the sense that rubbing your hands feels good?
In the last year I've been burned so many times buying locally that I almost gave up looking. Almost.
I'm really excited to try Dutch's product though
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im on the 12th day to the US, will update on how fast i will receive it during the holidays.
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Order came through!
While we haven't had a chance to try it personally, a friend of a friend did and got really high. Like, holy fuck, what did I just do high. You have to understand that there hasn't been quality stuff in our area for a very long time, so this person probably underestimated it, didn't measure out a dosage, and/or had been drunk beforehand. It's going to be a little while until my life frees up so I can try it out, but I was wondering if people could describe what the high is like?
Do you feel like dancing, or does it floor you and you only want to sit?
Do you get visuals? Is it trippy? or are you more clear headed?
do you get jaw clenching?
do you get a body load in the sense that rubbing your hands feels good?
In the last year I've been burned so many times buying locally that I almost gave up looking. Almost.
I'm really excited to try Dutch's product though
It is just very good quality, pure MDMA.
I used just under .5g of his MDMA at a music festival over the weekend.
Took 25mg speed at 8am.
Had about 6 or 7 drinks between 8am and 1pm
Took 220mg MDMA at 2.30pm.
Kicked in very hard about 3pm. It kicked inso hard I actually got overwhelmed / scared for for a moment. I was pretty fucked and extremely energetic until 6pm and it was wearing off slowly.
Took another 150mg at 6pm. Kicked in about 6.20 and felt the waves / rushes with the come up.
About 9pm I gave away about 70mg and ate the rest of what I had (about 60mg) and the effects lasted until around 11pm and were still wearing off at 5am when I went to sleep after a fair bit of weed.
Had a little bit of a comedown but not very noticeable.
I grinded my teeth alot and had a sore jaw the next day.
The MDMA made me dance like crazy for 8 hours. But I still had a fairly clear head. I was full of energy (although the small amount of speed I took may have helped with that - at least until 4pm)
I have NEVER wanted to sit down or rest on MDMA... although I did sit down for 15 mins before my second dose. Needed a small break + some water.
It also made me talk to shitloads of random people like I normally do on MDMA.
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I live in the western USA and just received my package today.
Transaction Submitted November 15th (18 days ago)
Order Marked "In Transit" ~November 18th (15 days ago)
Order "Processed Through Sort Facility" November 23rd (11 days ago)
After Hurricane Sandy pushed everyone's transits times up and with Thanksgiving in the US I was not expecting my package to arrive until ~25-30 days after I ordered but I am more than happy that it took only 18 days from the day I submitted the order.
Weight looks fine, possibly even a bit heavy (hard to tell since it's still in the vacuum sealed wrap). Haven't tested but based on what I've read here it seems that Dutch's stuff is top of the line. Very satisfied with my order at this point =D
Did your tracking update any after "Processed Through Sort Facility"?
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I'm on the east coast and tomorrow will be day 19 for me, I got a feeling it will be here tomorrow...fingers crossed
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Day 26/27 tracked order and still says I am in Germany lol!! I am feeling any day this week or I think I might loose hope :(
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Just wanted to put in a plug for the the dutch man, 100g pack didn't come through for who knows what reason. tracking showed it got to my area then was returned... received from dutch before and others to this address, so really don't know what happened. dutch offered a reship which was unexpected, and it came in 9 days to US west!! classic marquis reaction, and couldn't be happier.
great man to do business with and great shit ;)
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first SR purchase is on day 30, still waiting :( to east coast us.
hoping it will come in by the end of the week but based on how fast people have been receiving their packages lately, i'm not too sure about that.
i'll update if it comes/ me and dutch come to a resolution
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Just received my order of 10g. Weighs out to 10.224g, which is great. Product mostly small crystals and sand. Clever packaging, gave me a laugh. Yet to try...will finalize when I can get silk road to load.
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my first order from DA (10g), arrived in 12 days 2 south europe, not bad after reading the posts on this thread, I was expecting it in another couple of weeks, so that's good, and 4 that price it wouldn't matter 2 me even if it took a month... the package was quite unusual but it arrived so no complaints... I haven't had the chance 2 test or weigh it yet so I'll update when I do, but I guess there won't be anything wrong with that seen the feedback... so for the moment I feel satisfied and I will most probably order again if testing goes well...
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Have 2 separate orders out from Dutch right now. 1 for 10G and 1 for 30G both placed a few days apart. Been a little over 30 days now with no signs :( Dutch has been in pretty good contact so far. Hasn't read my last message yet, hopefully I can get a reship or something if it doesn't come through soon. Been dry for a while now due to the whole ST fiasco :(
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Did your tracking update any after "Processed Through Sort Facility"?
Not until the day that package was delivered... which means the tracking was almost completely useless to me. It seems that most, if not all, of the American buyers are not getting any updates between "Processed Through Sort Facility" and actual delivery. Status when delivered will say something like "Arrival at Unit", but if you check your mail every day like I do when I'm expecting a special package then it's likely you'll learn about the delivery by actually seeing the package in your mailbox.
Stealth was also excellent. I will likely be ordering from Dutch again once his listings are up. I hope the rest of you guys get your packages soon!
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Just got mine in yesterday, shipped on the 20th arrived on the 3rd to East Coast USA.
Very professional and fast, product looks excellent, tested on marquis black.
Just found my new seller. Ordered from another vendor, still have yet to receive. 2 weeks, can't beat that.
Thanks Dutchaanbod!
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my 20 gram order came in about twenty days to southwest usa after it was put in transit. Weight is right on spot, and the product is like 90 percent white crystals and the rest are black crystals. Also the order was able to fit in my tiny mailbox which was great. Overall it was a great transaction.
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Ordered 50 grams, and in 2 1/2 weeks received 48.8 grams.
I'm not complaining. It's beautiful. Ordering more soon. Just gotta sling this first. :)
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Day 27 to states.. got pack.. not the regular mail man and didn't even have to sign!!! Still says in DE lol!!
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Just got mine in yesterday, shipped on the 20th arrived on the 3rd to East Coast USA.
Very professional and fast, product looks excellent, tested on marquis black.
Just found my new seller. Ordered from another vendor, still have yet to receive. 2 weeks, can't beat that.
Thanks Dutchaanbod!
Mine was shipped on the same day, hopefully it is here in the next few days.
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Ordered 2 orders from Dutch about a day apart from each other, about 3.5 weeks ago. The 1st showed up about a week ago. The second hasn't arrived yet.
I'm not worried. It will all show. Thanks Dutch.
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Still waiting patiently for mine. Marked shipped on the 16th, going to east coast...Should be any day now as I have seen people that ordered around the time I did get their packs already, even some a few days after mine was marked in transit..I ready to go to bed just so I can check the mail again lol
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Day 27 to states.. got pack.. not the regular mail man and didn't even have to sign!!! Still says in DE lol!!
NIce bro.. I got mine 27 days to states as well... This is a diff batch than from last week..more of a tan color. Smells and looks phenomenal ... Was short about 5g ..but price was unbeatable so I can't complain.
Quality 5/5
Stealth 4.5/5
Shipping 3/5
Now we can breath!! ;) LOL
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Day 27 to states.. got pack.. not the regular mail man and didn't even have to sign!!! Still says in DE lol!!
NIce bro.. I got mine 27 days to states as well... This is a diff batch than from last week..more of a tan color. Smells and looks phenomenal ... Was short about 5g ..but price was unbeatable so I can't complain.
Quality 5/5
Stealth 4.5/5
Shipping 3/5
Now we can breath!! ;) LOL
So the mdma that people are getting now is brown not the greyish stuff? I placed my order a couple weeks back and I'm still waiting on it..Just trying to get an idea of which batch I may be getting, not that it matters too much because I'm sure they're both fire!
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hey guys.... i ordered the 10 off dutch mid october and still nothing... he has given me a 50% refund but im stull hoping it may come. stupid or what?? im in oz and never not had something come. if its taking 4 wks from ger to usa then it would take longer to here? whats the longest ppl have waited from him? i noticed a few wks after he stopped shipping here that others in oz were finally having theirs turn up! hoping its just delayed somehow but prob just wishful thinking hey.
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Day 27 to states.. got pack.. not the regular mail man and didn't even have to sign!!! Still says in DE lol!!
NIce bro.. I got mine 27 days to states as well... This is a diff batch than from last week..more of a tan color. Smells and looks phenomenal ... Was short about 5g ..but price was unbeatable so I can't complain.
Quality 5/5
Stealth 4.5/5
Shipping 3/5
Now we can breath!! ;) LOL
So the mdma that people are getting now is brown not the greyish stuff? I placed my order a couple weeks back and I'm still waiting on it..Just trying to get an idea of which batch I may be getting, not that it matters too much because I'm sure they're both fire!
I got one pack on Friday that was dark grey. I got one today that was tanish/yellow.. Both packs were marked in transit the same day so I couldn't really tell you wjhat color you'll get. but indeed they are both FIRE!
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^^^ I got the grey/white/darker batch!! I reagent tested it and was straight black and fizzed but damn down for 2 weeks.. all my shit already gone!! I only tested cause it didn't have that sassy smell so I was curious but best fizz reaction I've seen so yea Dutch :)
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I've placed two orders with dutch.
First Order
Delivery Time: 19 days from in transit to west coast
Weight: Ordered 10g and it was slightly under weight
Quality: Fire
Color: Grey
Second Order
Delivery Time: 12 days from in transit to west coast
Weight: Ordered 10g and it was slightly overweight
Quality: Fire
Color: White / slightly tan
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Day 27 to states.. got pack.. not the regular mail man and didn't even have to sign!!! Still says in DE lol!!
NIce bro.. I got mine 27 days to states as well... This is a diff batch than from last week..more of a tan color. Smells and looks phenomenal ... Was short about 5g ..but price was unbeatable so I can't complain.
Quality 5/5
Stealth 4.5/5
Shipping 3/5
Now we can breath!! ;) LOL
What do you mean with short about 5g, did you mean 0.5g?
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Anyone recently received an order to UK?
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Every bag I have always got was short .5 cause its stuck to the bag but who cares lol... you can get like .2 if you scrap but I don't even bother :)
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Day 27 to states.. got pack.. not the regular mail man and didn't even have to sign!!! Still says in DE lol!!
NIce bro.. I got mine 27 days to states as well... This is a diff batch than from last week..more of a tan color. Smells and looks phenomenal ... Was short about 5g ..but price was unbeatable so I can't complain.
Quality 5/5
Stealth 4.5/5
Shipping 3/5
Now we can breath!! ;) LOL
What do you mean with short about 5g, did you mean 0.5g?
Yes 5g short.
Every bag I have always got was short .5 cause its stuck to the bag but who cares lol... you can get like .2 if you scrap but I don't even bother :)
Yea same here, but one bag was short about 4.5g . So after I weighed everything with each bag missing .5 i was about 7g short. I did bother and came up with an extra 1.5g or soo that was stuck to the bag lol
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Any plans to sell coke again Dutch? I'm in need
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I was able to get an order in over the weekend while Dutch had listings up for about a day. I hope he's planning to send those out this week because if he's waiting until the 15th I might need to hit up another vendor for my nye order.
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I LOVE DUTCHAANBOD. 13 days from marked in transit to west coast US. Yellow/Tan color. Smells/Tastes fanfuckingtastic. ::) :o shipping was solid, and I got a laugh out of it. 5/5 all around. Dutch is MR MDMA.
.5g overweight too! without scraping the bag ;)
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I was able to get an order in over the weekend while Dutch had listings up for about a day. I hope he's planning to send those out this week because if he's waiting until the 15th I might need to hit up another vendor for my nye order.
haha possibly lights all night? if so, i had to place an order with someone else. i Know the other prices are still great, but im so used to sub $20/g
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yup ares was SHORT TOO..
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I was able to get an order in over the weekend while Dutch had listings up for about a day. I hope he's planning to send those out this week because if he's waiting until the 15th I might need to hit up another vendor for my nye order.
I was also able to get an order in... And Mine was market in transit 2day!!! God i hope it makes it b4 new years!!!
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:( so envious of everyone who got their order in before dutch took his break. i wanted to make my first order with him... just missed it. i really hope that his prices/quality are the same when he gets back. waiting for bitinstant to fix their moneygram issue and then i am going to get the btc ready for the 15th! i don't want to miss out! i got a gram from domesticdude just to hold me over for new years, but i am so disgustingly excited to give dutch's product a try. i keep reading such great reviews, and the price is unreal! :D
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Got Mine TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marked in transit 11/22, 15 days and I wasn't even looking for it until next week.
Southern State
Tan, no black. Huge Chunks of crystals that look like Crack Rocks.
a lil bit over, quite a lil bit. ;)
Smells like that old fashioned root beer.
Life is Good.
I would say I'll be back to review, but that's probably a lie.
But I'll sure be back if it's shit! hahaha
Thanks Dutch!
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:( so envious of everyone who got their order in before dutch took his break. i wanted to make my first order with him... just missed it. i really hope that his prices/quality are the same when he gets back. waiting for bitinstant to fix their moneygram issue and then i am going to get the btc ready for the 15th! i don't want to miss out! i got a gram from domesticdude just to hold me over for new years, but i am so disgustingly excited to give dutch's product a try. i keep reading such great reviews, and the price is unreal! :D
I'tll be worth the wait. The packaging is fantastic! I don't know how any packages get seized.
The quality is perfect and the price is ridiculously cheap, considering 10g from DA is cheaper than 1g here in Australia
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Got Mine TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marked in transit 11/22, 15 days and I wasn't even looking for it until next week.
Southern State
Tan, no black. Huge Chunks of crystals that look like Crack Rocks.
a lil bit over, quite a lil bit. ;)
Smells like that old fashioned root beer.
Life is Good.
I would say I'll be back to review, but that's probably a lie.
But I'll sure be back if it's shit! hahaha
Thanks Dutch!
Mine was marked in transit on the 16th of November going to a southern state just like yours..I'm still waiting patiently. Man how I hope it comes tomorrow! I'm driving my gf nuts lol
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Mine was put in transit on the 20th of November. Still waiting for it anxiously in the Southern USA. My order was 50 grams and I never recieved tracking. Is that normal?? I thought all orders 50 grams plus were tracked.... Hopefully it's here soon!!
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Mine was put in transit on the 20th of November. Still waiting for it anxiously in the Southern USA. My order was 50 grams and I never recieved tracking. Is that normal?? I thought all orders 50 grams plus were tracked.... Hopefully it's here soon!!
He'll give you the tracking if you send him a message.
I'm also waiting on my package... marked in transit on 11/7, tracking updated in Germany on 11/23, no updates since then.
Hope it's here by next week.
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So as some of you may already know, my last package of 50 grams was in transit for 31 days. But it came.
I got my next 50 grams yesterday, in 15 days. I did ask him jokingly to sprinkle some of his magic dust on it this time, and I think he did haha.
Basically same shit as always, doesn't smell like licorice as much as the first batch, but it is still freaking FIRE.
Can't wait for it to be back up.
love you guys,
Peace,
Fromthemoon
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So as some of you may already know, my last package of 50 grams was in transit for 31 days. But it came.
I got my next 50 grams yesterday, in 15 days. I did ask him jokingly to sprinkle some of his magic dust on it this time, and I think he did haha.
Basically same shit as always, doesn't smell like licorice as much as the first batch, but it is still freaking FIRE.
Can't wait for it to be back up.
love you guys,
Peace,
Fromthemoon
Yea this batch had huge rocks and I've never had it not reek of licorice so I tested it... I never test shit cause I can tell and trust him but god damn I have never seen a batch fizz so much and turn black so fast!!!
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So as some of you may already know, my last package of 50 grams was in transit for 31 days. But it came.
I got my next 50 grams yesterday, in 15 days. I did ask him jokingly to sprinkle some of his magic dust on it this time, and I think he did haha.
Basically same shit as always, doesn't smell like licorice as much as the first batch, but it is still freaking FIRE.
Can't wait for it to be back up.
love you guys,
Peace,
Fromthemoon
Yea this batch had huge rocks and I've never had it not reek of licorice so I tested it... I never test shit cause I can tell and trust him but god damn I have never seen a batch fizz so much and turn black so fast!!!
The brown batch or the grayish batch?
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^^^ I got the greyish one with like some burned giant moon rocks :)
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Got my pack today!!! 22 days to the southern US..Great stealth looks greyish,and not really that loud of a smell like some people made it seem. My new scale I got today is shit so I'm taking it back tomorrow. I ended up eye balling a .1 which I just consumed about 15 min ago...i'll report back
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ok guys carefulle he is selective scammer..be safe..
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So I tried what I believe is a .1(scale not working but its a .1 or damn near close. I definitely feel it, even though I took 1 1/2 orange bombs I got from XTCEXPRESS a week and a half ago. Ima big guy about 220 pounds. I don't won't to take anymore until I get my scale working properly
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ok guys carefulle he is selective scammer..be safe..
Care to explain?
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ok guys carefulle he is selective scammer..be safe..
Care to explain?
x2
Sidenote; my pupils are huge lol
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ok guys carefulle he is selective scammer..be safe..
^^^ This guy knows no better...please forgive him...lmao
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ok guys carefulle he is selective scammer..be safe..
Care to explain?
look at his karma. That might help you to determine what people think of his credibility.
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Well if what Dutch does is considered "selective scamming" keep on doing it brother cause your making me lots of fucking cash!!! :) I love selective scammers, but only when I make a couple thousand from them... gosh I hate when they scam you and you lose your cash ;)
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Always got the feeling that soo25 was an F16 alt - always cheerleading and sucking his dick on his vendor thread, always saying shit about other MDMA vendors. No real proof though.
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I got my 10gr order today and when I placed it with Dutchaanbod I had absolutely no stats, brand new. So wouldn't I be the perfect candidate to selective scam?
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LOL WOW, I just got my first package through him.
Will vouch for DUTCH all day, everyday.
POST YOUR LISTINGS BACK UP DUTCHHHH!
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I received my 10g order from Dutch successfully. Order placed 11/15 and marked in transit 11/16. Total of 21 days to northeastern US. The color is light brown and there is a moderate anise smell. It is a good blend of huge rocks and smaller pebbles with some sand grain sized particles mixed in. I will be trying it out soon, but I have no worries about the quality. Thank you, Dutch!
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I received my 10g order from Dutch successfully. Order placed 11/15 and marked in transit 11/16. Total of 21 days to northeastern US. The color is light brown and there is a moderate anise smell. It is a good blend of huge rocks and smaller pebbles with some sand grain sized particles mixed in. I will be trying it out soon, but I have no worries about the quality. Thank you, Dutch!
So I guess he had two batches at the same time, the brown and they greyish. I ordered the exact same time as you and got my order yesterday, it was the greyish batch..Damn good stuff!
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I received my 10g order from Dutch successfully. Order placed 11/15 and marked in transit 11/16. Total of 21 days to northeastern US. The color is light brown and there is a moderate anise smell. It is a good blend of huge rocks and smaller pebbles with some sand grain sized particles mixed in. I will be trying it out soon, but I have no worries about the quality. Thank you, Dutch!
So I guess he had two batches at the same time, the brown and they greyish. I ordered the exact same time as you and got my order yesterday, it was the greyish batch..Damn good stuff!
Same here. Had two orders that were made the same day..Got two different batches . One dark grey and one tanish brown.
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first off, let me say...
HOLY FUCK
best roll i have ever had. took a while (32 days to NE US) but sooo worth the wait. i wish i ordered more, it's almost all gone! i got the greyish batch with a few nice sized rocks and a lot of nice gray moon sand and a few brownish yellow chunks. i sampled a tiny bump and damn... :O
Dutch you have made many people happy, i anxiously await the day you have your listings back up :D
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20grams in 16 days and a little overweight too :)
I would also like to note that the product looks damn fine
Dutch I wanna give you a big fat kiss right now...
-schmuck
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Anyone got any words on how long shipping is to the UK? Tempted to pick up a fair amount when his listings go back up.
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Anyone got any words on how long shipping is to the UK? Tempted to pick up a fair amount when his listings go back up.
Mine took 17 days from being marked in transit to appearing on my lap.
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Is there a christmas special for next weekend planned ;) ?
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MOTHERFUCKER! Nothing like getting a package and the vendor does not seal their packaging inside of the "stealth" object. Nothing suspicious about an item that should never have a powder in all covered with my MDMA. Thanks for being so stealthy Dutchaanbod.
Yes they have a good product and it is cheap, but the last thing any buyer wants to see is their product covering every inch of the stealth item. This is a case of you get what you pay for. If safety is a lesser concern than cost then Dutchaanbod is the go to vendor. I would post a link to the picture I took of this were it not compromising the rule on shipping. Nobody would recommend Dutch after seeing how I received this. Buy a fucking Ziploc if you are too rushed to check the seals you put your product in.
This is easily the worst transaction I have encountered on SR. Had this been my first I would have been way too scared to try another. The lack of shipping standards is what I dislike most of purchasing off SR and this one was BAD! There was nearly 15g that had fallen out of one of the bags coating things thoroughly.
It was their grayish variety complete with black specs in it. At this price you need to expect to pick out foreign matter. The quality of the product is good but not worth the risk.
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3rd order and 19 days to US. I think i would be more surprised if you didn't receive your package because thats how superb his packaging is compared to most vendors. I would choose dutch over most if not all mdma vendors just on packaging alone, because i know it will make it and I haven't even mentioned the price for the quality which is just unbeatable.
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I've got nothing but love to Dutch. I've received 4 orders from this guy and wish he would list his orders up so i can order some more; however, it is totally understandable that his guys need a break!
I've received the big ice looking batch, the tan, grey, and white-ish tan shit.
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people be careful with this guy are packages were not not 2 vacuumed sealed.and leaked out.thank god we got the package or my people would have smelt and herd it.
NEVER AGAIN WILL WE ORDER FROM SUCH A CARELESS VENDOR.HAPPY FOR U IF IT WENT GOOD FOR U BT IT DIDNT FOR US AND IT WAS 2GRAMS UNDER.
HE WILL TELL U GUYS ITS HIS PACKAGING PEOPLE.RIPING HIM OFF..lame get ur shit together.he shorts every one
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I agree that the product needs to be bagged twice. One of my orders had leaked out of the bag slightly and leaked onto the packaging.
However, the way it is packed and sealed would cause very little suspicion.
I would happily pay a bit more for double or triple bagged product.
My overall experience with dutchaanbod has been fantastic though.
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I agree that the product needs to be bagged twice. One of my orders had leaked out of the bag slightly and leaked onto the packaging.
However, the way it is packed and sealed would cause very little suspicion.
I would happily pay a bit more for double or triple bagged product.
My overall experience with dutchaanbod has been fantastic though.
Same thing happened to me last month. And I totally agree. It COULD be an issue, but there was no smell until I broke the first vacuum seal, so I'm not too worried. Plus I only lost, MAYBE 100mg
The order that I received this week was sealed perfectly fine.
I'm going to continue ordering from this vendor!
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Mine wasn't a little leak but about 14 grams from one of the bags had dumped. Everything was coated inside and out of the package. Stupid things like this is how LE makes their "highly skilled investigations" pay off. If Dutch would vacuum seal then it would have been obvious they did not seal two inches of one of the bags. Time to invest in a food sealer and a few tolls of bags.
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I've ordered more than a handful from Dutch and its always Double Vac sealed... I seriously doubt he sent any out with one seal!!!
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Just wanted to thank Dutchaanbod for such a flawless transaction, it took a while to get to the states (3 weeks), but it got here just in time. I've already flipped most of it for $150 in profit on the 10g order, making a lot of people happy and helping pay for my Christmas shopping haha.
Contrary to what some people are saying, the packaging WAS vacuum sealed. There's a chance some of the contents might leak out, but I find that unlikely. The stealth overall was decent, not the greatest but certainly better than average.
The product itself, as described by one of my friends, is "the best they've ever had". It essentially came in one huge mound, leading to many moon rocks of approximately .5 - 1.0 grams in size! It must have been the greyish batch, but its color was only mildly so. This really is the kind of stuff you set aside for yourself to last many years, you can't get much better than Dutch's stuff (although if anyone's done an acetone wash on it, please post on your findings).
Due to the risks and quantity involved, I won't be trying this again, at least for a while. If you guys have the in real life contacts and the balls to make it happen though, wait until Dutch gets back and let him work some magic for you!
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Just wanted to thank Dutchaanbod for such a flawless transaction, it took a while to get to the states (3 weeks), but it got here just in time. I've already flipped most of it for $150 in profit on the 10g order, making a lot of people happy and helping pay for my Christmas shopping haha.
Contrary to what some people are saying, the packaging WAS vacuum sealed. There's a chance some of the contents might leak out, but I find that unlikely. The stealth overall was decent, not the greatest but certainly better than average.
The product itself, as described by one of my friends, is "the best they've ever had". It essentially came in one huge mound, leading to many moon rocks of approximately .5 - 1.0 grams in size! It must have been the greyish batch, but its color was only mildly so. This really is the kind of stuff you set aside for yourself to last many years, you can't get much better than Dutch's stuff (although if anyone's done an acetone wash on it, please post on your findings).
Due to the risks and quantity involved, I won't be trying this again, at least for a while. If you guys have the in real life contacts and the balls to make it happen though, wait until Dutch gets back and let him work some magic for you!
Curious as to how much you were selling it for to make only a $150 profit on 10gs
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Just wanted to thank Dutchaanbod for such a flawless transaction, it took a while to get to the states (3 weeks), but it got here just in time. I've already flipped most of it for $150 in profit on the 10g order, making a lot of people happy and helping pay for my Christmas shopping haha.
Contrary to what some people are saying, the packaging WAS vacuum sealed. There's a chance some of the contents might leak out, but I find that unlikely. The stealth overall was decent, not the greatest but certainly better than average.
The product itself, as described by one of my friends, is "the best they've ever had". It essentially came in one huge mound, leading to many moon rocks of approximately .5 - 1.0 grams in size! It must have been the greyish batch, but its color was only mildly so. This really is the kind of stuff you set aside for yourself to last many years, you can't get much better than Dutch's stuff (although if anyone's done an acetone wash on it, please post on your findings).
Due to the risks and quantity involved, I won't be trying this again, at least for a while. If you guys have the in real life contacts and the balls to make it happen though, wait until Dutch gets back and let him work some magic for you!
Curious as to how much you were selling it for to make only a $150 profit on 10gs
I sold 9 grams for $360, or $40 a gram (keeping the other gram for myself). That's half of what the stuff normally go for around here, but I wanted this to be a win-win for both my friends and myself. You could certainly easily double that profit margin if you wanted to (and 5x-10x if from Australia).
What can I say, I'm not a very good drug dealer. :P
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Damn you coulda made so much more youre doing it wrong
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Damn you coulda made so much more youre doing it wrong
Eh it was sold in bulk to the only two people who have a reason to have that much molly and who I know I can trust. I unfortunately don't have the real life connections to sell it in lower quantities without putting myself in serious risk, as there's no real market for molly here (most people I know don't know the difference between MDMA and heroin).
Such is life in small town America, where alcohol is by far the drug of choice...
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I sold 9 grams for $360, or $40 a gram (keeping the other gram for myself). That's half of what the stuff normally go for around here, but I wanted this to be a win-win for both my friends and myself. You could certainly easily double that profit margin if you wanted to (and 5x-10x if from Australia).
What can I say, I'm not a very good drug dealer. :P
Hey man you're better than me. I would be completely in the red if I was actually drug dealer.
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ugh "Moon rocks"....you kids and your lingo. It really makes it annoying selling the most lovey dovey drug on the planet lmao
can't wait until dutch puts up his listings again!! love his MDMA and packaging was vac. sealed twice.
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Just wanted to thank Dutchaanbod for such a flawless transaction, it took a while to get to the states (3 weeks), but it got here just in time. I've already flipped most of it for $150 in profit on the 10g order, making a lot of people happy and helping pay for my Christmas shopping haha.
Contrary to what some people are saying, the packaging WAS vacuum sealed. There's a chance some of the contents might leak out, but I find that unlikely. The stealth overall was decent, not the greatest but certainly better than average.
The product itself, as described by one of my friends, is "the best they've ever had". It essentially came in one huge mound, leading to many moon rocks of approximately .5 - 1.0 grams in size! It must have been the greyish batch, but its color was only mildly so. This really is the kind of stuff you set aside for yourself to last many years, you can't get much better than Dutch's stuff (although if anyone's done an acetone wash on it, please post on your findings).
Due to the risks and quantity involved, I won't be trying this again, at least for a while. If you guys have the in real life contacts and the balls to make it happen though, wait until Dutch gets back and let him work some magic for you!
Curious as to how much you were selling it for to make only a $150 profit on 10gs
I sold 9 grams for $360, or $40 a gram (keeping the other gram for myself). That's half of what the stuff normally go for around here, but I wanted this to be a win-win for both my friends and myself. You could certainly easily double that profit margin if you wanted to (and 5x-10x if from Australia).
What can I say, I'm not a very good drug dealer. :P
You sir, are awesome!
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what size po box would one need to order from dutch? will his letters fit in the smallest box? thanks!
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Going on day 20 of waiting for a w/o tracking order. This looks to be pretty average but I'm worried about all this talk about open packages. Is he having a problem with his reshipper? What is the % of package arriving opened?
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Eh it was sold in bulk to the only two people who have a reason to have that much molly and who I know I can trust. I unfortunately don't have the real life connections to sell it in lower quantities without putting myself in serious risk, as there's no real market for molly here (most people I know don't know the difference between MDMA and heroin).
Such is life in small town America, where alcohol is by far the drug of choice...
You should try moving to a larger city =P
I live in a decently large city that will go unnamed. It has a dance club scene that is pretty strong and once your stuff starts to hit the market and is consistently good (my experience is stuff on SR is consistently better than the stuff on the street), the market pretty much makes itself.
People who start off buying personal amounts start buying larger amounts because their friends want more, etc. As was said, though, you still want to limit how many points of contact you have. Eventually the real question becomes "what do I do with all this cash since depositing it into my checking account would look suspicious?". Prudence is worth its weight in gold though, since you can't buy your way out of jail...
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Going on day 20 of waiting for a w/o tracking order. This looks to be pretty average but I'm worried about all this talk about open packages. Is he having a problem with his reshipper? What is the % of package arriving opened?
Sounds like just a few isolated cases. Nobody in the US has gotten a customs letter for one of his packs that I know of and I've been following this thread for a good while now.
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Showed up today after 34 days in transit. Words don't do this molly justice... so I'm going to leave you all with some pics...
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=85b1960f64705828b5e5a7f8e7221393.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c067de7eec943f4c06b9cc642816ec0b.jpg
Thank you Dutch!
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_dzzzlzzzd_, Thanks for the photos, if thats Dutchs stuff then you have just cemented my purchases. I have heard from others that it was super dark almost grey.... I can deal with the wait if its as good as people say it is :3 ;D ;D ;D
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Showed up today after 34 days in transit. Words don't do this molly justice... so I'm going to leave you all with some pics...
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=85b1960f64705828b5e5a7f8e7221393.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c067de7eec943f4c06b9cc642816ec0b.jpg
Thank you Dutch!
ooooo i hope mine looks like that..yummy 8)
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Just wanted to thank Dutchaanbod for such a flawless transaction, it took a while to get to the states (3 weeks), but it got here just in time. I've already flipped most of it for $150 in profit on the 10g order, making a lot of people happy and helping pay for my Christmas shopping haha.
Contrary to what some people are saying, the packaging WAS vacuum sealed. There's a chance some of the contents might leak out, but I find that unlikely. The stealth overall was decent, not the greatest but certainly better than average.
The product itself, as described by one of my friends, is "the best they've ever had". It essentially came in one huge mound, leading to many moon rocks of approximately .5 - 1.0 grams in size! It must have been the greyish batch, but its color was only mildly so. This really is the kind of stuff you set aside for yourself to last many years, you can't get much better than Dutch's stuff (although if anyone's done an acetone wash on it, please post on your findings).
Due to the risks and quantity involved, I won't be trying this again, at least for a while. If you guys have the in real life contacts and the balls to make it happen though, wait until Dutch gets back and let him work some magic for you!
Curious as to how much you were selling it for to make only a $150 profit on 10gs
I sold 9 grams for $360, or $40 a gram (keeping the other gram for myself). That's half of what the stuff normally go for around here, but I wanted this to be a win-win for both my friends and myself. You could certainly easily double that profit margin if you wanted to (and 5x-10x if from Australia).
What can I say, I'm not a very good drug dealer. :P
WTF?!?!
You took the risk, you imported the product & ran the risk of it getting seized.
If I was selling it to my friends, I'd be selling it at $100 +/ g.
Street prices in Australia are $200 - $300 / g, mainly $250 + / g.
Pure crystal MDMA is very rare in Australia.
If I were you, I'd charge at least $70 /g (I assume you're from the US) because now if you make another order and it's gets seized, you'll be running at a loss. $70 / g is still cheap for US prices and that's a better win/win for your & your mates.
Also, some people are stupid and would think something like this "2 pills normally costs $40. I take 2 pills in one night. 1g MDMA also costs $40. I will take it in one night too."
I'm not saying they will do that, but I know quite alot of people who think like this.
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Damn you coulda made so much more youre doing it wrong
Eh it was sold in bulk to the only two people who have a reason to have that much molly and who I know I can trust. I unfortunately don't have the real life connections to sell it in lower quantities without putting myself in serious risk, as there's no real market for molly here (most people I know don't know the difference between MDMA and heroin).
Such is life in small town America, where alcohol is by far the drug of choice...
I agree with the MDMA comment. It is true... MDMA is so rare here most people don't even know what it was.
Last time I went out with mates, they all took their pills and they saw my little bag of crystals and got upset cause they thought it was ice / meth.
Even after explaining it to them, they still had their mind set that I was on ice.
Finally, after googling it, they believed me. Lol
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What's great about MDMA from the likes of dutch is that once the doubters have tried it, they're sold. It isn't like cocaine where it doesn't matter what the quality is half the people will say it is shit.
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any of you uk brahs been waiting longer than usual for your package? 8)
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http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=85b1960f64705828b5e5a7f8e7221393.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c067de7eec943f4c06b9cc642816ec0b.jpg
Lovin the tortex73 in the backround almost as much as the rocks them self. I play with the .68 myself ;)
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Showed up today after 34 days in transit. Words don't do this molly justice... so I'm going to leave you all with some pics...
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=85b1960f64705828b5e5a7f8e7221393.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c067de7eec943f4c06b9cc642816ec0b.jpg
Thank you Dutch!
WoW :o! So fucking yummu!! How much is it? 1g?
Kindly,
Lanvin
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Showed up today after 34 days in transit. Words don't do this molly justice... so I'm going to leave you all with some pics...
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=85b1960f64705828b5e5a7f8e7221393.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c067de7eec943f4c06b9cc642816ec0b.jpg
Thank you Dutch!
WoW :o! So fucking yummu!! How much is it? 1g?
Kindly,
Lanvin
The biggest one there was like .7
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Showed up today after 34 days in transit. Words don't do this molly justice... so I'm going to leave you all with some pics...
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=85b1960f64705828b5e5a7f8e7221393.jpg
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=c067de7eec943f4c06b9cc642816ec0b.jpg
Thank you Dutch!
WoW :o! So fucking yummu!! How much is it? 1g?
Kindly,
Lanvin
The biggest one there was like .7
I meant in total, sorry.
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Thanks again Dutch, in transit 20 days to eastern US. Looks tans and very good. Couldnt be happier.
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Trying to be prepared for dutchs return. Can anyone recall his prices on mdma. I know 10g is about $185, I'm lookin to buy more than 10g this time. Any sizes and prices you can remember will help me out, thanks.
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like 189 a gram for 10g's 100g's is like 1600$ 1 gram is 8750.00$$ via paypal only.
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like 189 a gram for 10g's 100g's is like 1600$ 1 gram is 8750.00$$ via paypal only.
Thanks but I don't understand the last part... 1 gram is 8750.00$$ via paypal only
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1 gram is 8750.00$$ via paypal only.
you high?
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1 gram is 8750.00$$ via paypal only.
you high?
LOL, gotta be....
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100g is more than $1,500 and less than $1,600 but I can't remember the exact price. Shipping 2-3 btc as I recall.
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100g is more than $1,500 and less than $1,600 but I can't remember the exact price. Shipping 2-3 btc as I recall.
The exact price for 100g from Dutch is $1,531.98, including shipping.
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100g is more than $1,500 and less than $1,600 but I can't remember the exact price. Shipping 2-3 btc as I recall.
The exact price for 100g from Dutch is $1,531.98, including shipping.
$1,538 + $26 for shipping I believe
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100g is more than $1,500 and less than $1,600 but I can't remember the exact price. Shipping 2-3 btc as I recall.
The exact price for 100g from Dutch is $1,531.98, including shipping.
$1,538 + $26 for shipping I believe
Price on the right side of his vendor page says $1,537.71 so I think you're right.
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Ok so let's say you wanted more than 100g, what's the next biggest weight offering? I think I remember him offering keys but I could be wrong and got him confused..And if someone where to get that size how much more risky would shipping be? Anymore than say shipping 50g at a time? He does ship 50g packs at a time and no heavier I think I read. So if someone where to get a key, that would be a total of 20 packs? I would go insane lol
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Ok so let's say you wanted more than 100g, what's the next biggest weight offering? I think I remember him offering keys but I could be wrong and got him confused..And if someone where to get that size how much more risky would shipping be? Anymore than say shipping 50g at a time? He does ship 50g packs at a time and no heavier I think I read. So if someone where to get a key, that would be a total of 20 packs? I would go insane lol
According to his listing he only ships the kilo to destinations within Germany.
If you want 200g then order qty 2 of the 100g option. I do remember he did a custom 250g order for dondada I think. I don't know their specific arrangement.
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Ok so let's say you wanted more than 100g, what's the next biggest weight offering? I think I remember him offering keys but I could be wrong and got him confused..And if someone where to get that size how much more risky would shipping be? Anymore than say shipping 50g at a time? He does ship 50g packs at a time and no heavier I think I read. So if someone where to get a key, that would be a total of 20 packs? I would go insane lol
According to his listing he only ships the kilo to destinations within Germany.
If you want 200g then order qty 2 of the 100g option.i
Damn I remember that now. Well its definitely understandable..Thanks
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He made me a custom order when he first started selling mdma but he no longer makes custom listings. If you want more than 100 grams you have to purchase multiple listings. Also, he does have a kilo listing but it's Germany-Germany only. I asked him about it but he won't make any exceptions.
Thanks for this infomation.
Just to be clear, if somebody wants 200g do they need to place 2 orders for 100g or can they just order qty 2 of the 100g in a single order?
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just to give an update for some peeps. a close friend just received his 100g order to the northern midwest USA in 22 days. he said everything looks beautiful and weight was spot on. hope everything receives their stuff soon if you're still waiting :)
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just to give an update for some peeps. a close friend just received his 100g order to the northern midwest USA in 22 days. he said everything looks beautiful and weight was spot on. hope everything receives their stuff soon if you're still waiting :)
hes a lucky,lucky man im sure its smiles all round.im on day 22 to the uk still waiting patiently hope it comes soon 8)
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How long does it usually take to get tracking from Dutch(50g+ order)? On day 8 with no number, not worried because I'm in escrow and he's a great vendor. Honestly wouldn't care if I didn't get a number and it shows up in a week or two, just curious.
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How long does it usually take to get tracking from Dutch(50g+ order)? On day 8 with no number, not worried because I'm in escrow and he's a great vendor. Honestly wouldn't care if I didn't get a number and it shows up in a week or two, just curious.
7-8 days in i usually receive one.
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The weirdest thing happened today. A pack that was eerily similarly packaged and addressed from the same country as my previous 10 gram pack from Dutch showed up at my drop this week that I did not order. I was ecstatic, yet confused!
Here is a copy of the message I just sent to dutch, sums up the situation pretty well.
awesome1126 said:
Dutch,
Today I received a SECOND 10 gram pack of MDMA from you to the USA that I did not pay for….It says it was shipped December 3rd. I did pay for one 10 gram pack that arrived successfully about 5 days ago.
While I do not think there is much either of us can do, I thought it was only right of me to inform you.
I will only recommend you as the absolute best MDMA vendor to anyone who inquires, as obviously you've got a machine-like ship running that made a simple error, we all do. I will be ordering 50 grams AS SOON as you're in stock again :)
Be true, awesome
My only concern is my personal info, but with dutchaanbod I think he may have thought to reship for some reason when I sent the transaction into resolution, even though we both agreed on a 12 day extension and I finalized promptly when the pack arrived 21 days after it was marked in transit...but I never sent him my address again...but it may have still been available to dutchaanbod through the SR ordering system encrypted to him plus my encryption, since the sale wasn't finalized yet...who knows!
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The weirdest thing happened today. A pack that was eerily similarly packaged and addressed from the same country as my previous 10 gram pack from Dutch showed up at my drop this week that I did not order. I was ecstatic, yet confused!
Here is a copy of the message I just sent to dutch, sums up the situation pretty well.
awesome1126 said:
Dutch,
Today I received a SECOND 10 gram pack of MDMA from you to the USA that I did not pay for….It says it was shipped December 3rd. I did pay for one 10 gram pack that arrived successfully about 5 days ago.
While I do not think there is much either of us can do, I thought it was only right of me to inform you.
I will only recommend you as the absolute best MDMA vendor to anyone who inquires, as obviously you've got a machine-like ship running that made a simple error, we all do. I will be ordering 50 grams AS SOON as you're in stock again :)
Be true, awesome
Haha, you're a lucky man!
The only unfortunate thing about this is that Dutch probably inadvertently fucked someone over (and himself in the process).
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The weirdest thing happened today. A pack that was eerily similarly packaged and addressed from the same country as my previous 10 gram pack from Dutch showed up at my drop this week that I did not order. I was ecstatic, yet confused!
Here is a copy of the message I just sent to dutch, sums up the situation pretty well.
awesome1126 said:
Dutch,
Today I received a SECOND 10 gram pack of MDMA from you to the USA that I did not pay for….It says it was shipped December 3rd. I did pay for one 10 gram pack that arrived successfully about 5 days ago.
While I do not think there is much either of us can do, I thought it was only right of me to inform you.
I will only recommend you as the absolute best MDMA vendor to anyone who inquires, as obviously you've got a machine-like ship running that made a simple error, we all do. I will be ordering 50 grams AS SOON as you're in stock again :)
Be true, awesome
Haha, you're a lucky man!
The only unfortunate thing about this is that Dutch probably inadvertently fucked someone over (and himself in the process).
My only concern is my personal info, but with dutchaanbod I think he may have thought to reship for some reason when I sent the transaction into resolution, even though we both agreed on a 12 day extension and I finalized promptly when the pack arrived 21 days after it was marked in transit...but I never sent him my address again...but it may have still been available to dutchaanbod through the SR ordering system encrypted to him plus my encryption, since the sale wasn't finalized yet...who knows!
As far as dutchaanbod fucking someone over, hopefully since I have contacted him and the intended original recipient (if there is one) of that 10 gram pack is definitely going to report it as a no show, I'm sure he will at least get word and do what he can as a vendor to make it right.
Obviously if 10 gram packs just go sent out twice dutchaanbod has very hefty operation, 10 grams is the least of his worries.
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Hey all-
Been a while since I've posted here, and sure haven't read the last 30 some pages except for some skimming around here and there. As a customer who placed an order with him right when he came back, and had several more positive transactions with him since it's nice to know that he's still handing his business responsibility. While he was away the last time, I placed an order with another vendor for much more expensive mdma that is closer to my location, but unfortunately the quality was shit and it was something that had to be handled in the resolution center which I feel destroyed my buyer stats (over 10k spent, 25% refund rate now :-/)
Anyways, I eagerly await my favorite European vendor to come back and start sending his packages of love all over the world! :) All ready to place an order when he comes back, I will report on my experiences with him when I'm finally able to order again.
Long live Dutch! I hope everyone's orders in transit come in fast and heavy ;D
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hi people could anyone enlighten me pleas on the longest you have waited for an order to the uk? 8)
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hey im curious if dutch changes up his stealth for bulkier orders?, the first 10 gram pack made it through ok, but a quick google search will reveal that customs has found similar packages.
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Would like to order from Dutch when he puts his listings back up.
Does anyone know if Dutch offers any kind of express shipping to the USA?
Thanks for the help people.
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hey im curious if dutch changes up his stealth for bulkier orders?, the first 10 gram pack made it through ok, but a quick google search will reveal that customs has found similar packages.
dont think this matters. its called volume. it will take too long and too much effort to make real progress. more man power=more co$t$; changing views on the war on drugs is evident. watch the last episode of drug inc. OH WAIT! ive seen SOMEONE on here use that exact shipping method! watch the statement by the DEA agent. "make contact with the resident see what they have to say about that" aka do nothing
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It is the 16th.. I got my bit ready for your return, still on schedule?
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It is the 16th.. I got my bit ready for your return, still on schedule?
I hope so...I'm ready to go too! Got up early to get my coin just for this..... 8)
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hey im curious if dutch changes up his stealth for bulkier orders?, the first 10 gram pack made it through ok, but a quick google search will reveal that customs has found similar packages.
I'm not seeing these seizures... you don't have to tell me exactly how you arrived at your conclusion, but can you tell me when these seizure listings were posted? If they're not from the past three months, they're not the work of Dutch.
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Would like to order from Dutch when he puts his listings back up.
Does anyone know if Dutch offers any kind of express shipping to the USA?
Thanks for the help people.
NO he doesn't.
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It is the 16th.. I got my bit ready for your return, still on schedule?
Nice to see I'm not the only one chomping at the bit here. If he doesn't show re-activate his listings though I will be "forced" to use another vendor. I'd rather use Dutch though!
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Yah good to hear it, im still waiting too. I was thinking he made hidden listings based on his vendor page
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Cant wait till he is back, bitcoin is ready to be spent.
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Dutch's Mandy is sooo fire. I love making a small fortune off of every 100 pack that rolls through :))
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Dutch's Mandy is sooo fire. I love making a small fortune off of every 100 pack that rolls through :))
You and me both brother, So ready for him to get back to work
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It is the 16th.. I got my bit ready for your return, still on schedule?
Nice to see I'm not the only one chomping at the bit here. If he doesn't show re-activate his listings though I will be "forced" to use another vendor. I'd rather use Dutch though!
i was the same, but i really needed another 100 grams quickly, i had to order from another vendor, so ive ordered 100 gs from frankmattews until dutch gets back, anyone had any of franks mdma?
its roughly the same price for 100 gs
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It is the 16th.. I got my bit ready for your return, still on schedule?
Nice to see I'm not the only one chomping at the bit here. If he doesn't show re-activate his listings though I will be "forced" to use another vendor. I'd rather use Dutch though!
i was the same, but i really needed another 100 grams quickly, i had to order from another vendor, so ive ordered 100 gs from frankmattews until dutch gets back, anyone had any of franks mdma?
its roughly the same price for 100 gs
Watch out with the new batch of MDMA from Mathew, here you have the link.
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were is the link ?
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Eh... I'm staying loyal to the Dutchman like bible thumpers to jesus
.... 2000 years later.. have you heard the good news of his return?!?! this two weeks feels like an eternity.. lol
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Waiting on the Dutch to come back. He definitely knows how to treat his customers right. Some of my orders have been a little short but i'm not complaining one bit. His shit always makes it through, so no worries.
We Miss You Dutch!
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I'm still waiting on my package ordered on the 30th. My order auto-finalized, I don't know if that is good or bad? As I understand it, you finalize the moment you receive your package. Well, I haven't received it, and I didn't expect to for a good 20-25 days or so.
Should I have done otherwise? Gah, damnit... I hope this doesn't mess me up.
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I'm still waiting on my package ordered on the 30th. My order auto-finalized, I don't know if that is good or bad? As I understand it, you finalize the moment you receive your package. Well, I haven't received it, and I didn't expect to for a good 20-25 days or so.
Should I have done otherwise? Gah, damnit... I hope this doesn't mess me up.
you are suppose to press "resolve" on the order page. You then ask for an extension, wich will give more time before the autofinalize. When sellers see that you have autofinalized in the past they may be reluctant to to do business with you. If this is one of your first purchases on SR, ou may want to make a new account (idk if its open to new accounts again).
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I'm still waiting on my package ordered on the 30th. My order auto-finalized, I don't know if that is good or bad? As I understand it, you finalize the moment you receive your package. Well, I haven't received it, and I didn't expect to for a good 20-25 days or so.
Should I have done otherwise? Gah, damnit... I hope this doesn't mess me up.
i hope this is a joke...
gtfo noob
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I'm still waiting on my package ordered on the 30th. My order auto-finalized, I don't know if that is good or bad? As I understand it, you finalize the moment you receive your package. Well, I haven't received it, and I didn't expect to for a good 20-25 days or so.
Should I have done otherwise? Gah, damnit... I hope this doesn't mess me up.
i hope this is a joke...
gtfo noob
SR is growing at an explosive rate. Everyone has to start somewhere just like you once did. Seriously what is your problem? You're always talking shit on everyone on here. You must be insecure or unhappy about something in your life and that's why you have to bash on everyone. Stop trolling and go get your GED you ignorant fuck!
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I'm still waiting on my package ordered on the 30th. My order auto-finalized, I don't know if that is good or bad? As I understand it, you finalize the moment you receive your package. Well, I haven't received it, and I didn't expect to for a good 20-25 days or so.
Should I have done otherwise? Gah, damnit... I hope this doesn't mess me up
If you have only auto-finalized once then it's not that big of an issue. Finalization is when the vendor finally gets the Bitcoins sent to their account (before that, SR holds onto it in escrow). SR keeps track of how often your order "auto-finalizes" and this statistic is more or less an indicator of whether your promptly pay your vendors or not. If, after 16-17 days after ordering, you have not received your package then you are expected to go to the "resolve" link and find a mutually agreeable solution with the vendor. Typically (for people in the US and Australia with longer transit times) the buyer will grant the vendor a week or so in case the product is still in-transit, and to see if that package is received by the buyer within that extended time period.
For some vendors and products the transit times are far less than the 17 day default time period given by SR and a high % of auto-finalization for a specific buyer may mean that they don't promptly finalize once they receive their package. This makes some vendors wary because slow payment can cause cash-flow (or bitcoin-flow) issues for them. In general having one auto-finalization transaction isn't that big of a deal, but once your order hits day 17 it's a good habit to either already have finalized or extended the time period.
Hope this helps. If this is your 1st or 2nd order you could start a new account but unless your order was a large one I wouldn't worry about it too much. I also believe the auto-finalization statistic is weighed by value (BTC). One of my first transactions was a relatively small one that finalized and since my orders have grown larger my auto-finalization rate is under 3% and a non-issue.
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Hi all
We have decide that we not put our listing back up this days...
There are allot of holidays coming like Christmas and new year also post would be very slow this days..
We will put our listing back up on 1/2 January 2013
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Hi all
We have decide that we not put our listing back up this days...
There are allot of holidays coming like Christmas and new year also post would be very slow this days..
We will put our listing back up on 1/2 January 2013
Greats Dutchaanbod
Awwww, bummer.
Well at least he was courteous enough to inform us. See ya in 2013, Dutch!
Who you guys recommend for MDMA? I used OldAmsterdam last time but still haven't received my last order from him in 3+ weeks (I live in the USA). I've heard mixed things about AfterHours' quality...
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Received in 27 days to western Canada, weighed in at 10.37 on a 10g order. 80% small rock/shards and 20% very small pebbles, 0% powder. Stealth was obviously effective enough to receive my package but the seal was broken upon arrival, spillage was minimal but the scent definitely compromised the one layer (holy hell the stuff smells like licorice). It was the grey batch, a tester took 170mg with a 50mg booster to excellent effect.
Everything was great except shipping time but that is to be expected, will likely order again after the new year, hopefully things run smoothly.
Cheers
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Thanks for the update Dutch.
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Hi all
We have decide that we not put our listing back up this days...
There are allot of holidays coming like Christmas and new year also post would be very slow this days..
We will put our listing back up on 1/2 January 2013
Greats Dutchaanbod
Thanks for the update, it actually means alot rather than have people waiting and wondering.
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Damn that sucks. I've got a lot of money stuck in coin at the moment. I was hoping to place an order with ya Dutch. But I do understand that breaks are needed and the post will indeed be really slow around this time of year.
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Does anybody else get the impression that DopeDealer is Dutchaanbod? ;)
Peace and safety my friends
Jimmy B
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Why would you say that he's DopeDealer.....what info are you going on here?
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dopedealer doesn't show up in my search listings... am i missing something?
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Hi all
We have decide that we not put our listing back up this days...
There are allot of holidays coming like Christmas and new year also post would be very slow this days..
We will put our listing back up on 1/2 January 2013
Greats Dutchaanbod
I will be w8ing to you ;)
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dopedealer doesn't show up in my search listings... am i missing something?
I think he meant Dope Distibutor... I would stay clear and free from this guy, his profile actually looks like DrNyX.... http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b67ce872a2
He sells similar products and his english is broken just like Dr.
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dopedealer doesn't show up in my search listings... am i missing something?
I think he meant Dope Distibutor... I would stay clear and free from this guy, his profile actually looks like DrNyX.... http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b67ce872a2
He sells similar products and his english is broken just like Dr.
Thanks for the heads up Panda. I'm checking out the profile now.
Definitely planning on making another order from Dutch come new years. :D
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Hey guys I asked DA but he said he didn't know how packaging department does it but I've done below 100 grams.. all one package.. question is would 100 grams come in one pack/envelope??
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Hey guys I asked DA but he said he didn't know how packaging department does it but I've done below 100 grams.. all one package.. question is would 100 grams come in one pack/envelope??
I believe I remember reading he does 50g packs, so if you order 100gs you'll get two packs..Not 100% on that, someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
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As far as I know it is 50g per pack maximum.
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It's 50g per "pack" but you get two "packs" in your letter...
so you're saying you get everything in one letter but packed in 50g increments?
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It's 50g per "pack" but you get two "packs" in your letter...
so you're saying you get everything in one letter but packed in 50g increments?
I had 100g...25g increments inone letter.
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It's 50g per "pack" but you get two "packs" in your letter...
so you're saying you get everything in one letter but packed in 50g increments?
I had 100g...25g increments inone letter.
Nice, I thought it came in separate packs, good to know
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It's 50g per "pack" but you get two "packs" in your letter...
so you're saying you get everything in one letter but packed in 50g increments?
I had 100g...25g increments inone letter.
me too 100=4
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Just received my package from Dutch 18 days after marked in transit to USA. 100g did come as 4 "packs" in one mail parcel. Product looks awesome, grey crystals lots of nice size chunks.
I've said this a few times buy this Is truly the best vendor on the road.
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today is day 21 for a 10 gram order to south US, finalized early out of good faith, first order.
will update upon arrival.
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Just received my package from Dutch 18 days after marked in transit to USA. 100g did come as 4 "packs" in one mail parcel. Product looks awesome, grey crystals lots of nice size chunks.
I've said this a few times buy this Is truly the best vendor on the road.
did u have to sign?
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anyone package go missing due to the holidays/high mail volume? i noticed that i see a ton of people saying that they never received their package/believe it never shipped, but i haven't seen a single person complain in this thread. this makes me think that people are trying to get their scam/hustle on during the holiday/high mail volume; however this being said its been 30+days and nothing. this is concerning when people are posting fairly quick ship times
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Anyone know Dutch's price on 10g of MDMA??
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anyone package go missing due to the holidays/high mail volume? i noticed that i see a ton of people saying that they never received their package/believe it never shipped, but i haven't seen a single person complain in this thread. this makes me think that people are trying to get their scam/hustle on during the holiday/high mail volume; however this being said its been 30+days and nothing. this is concerning when people are posting fairly quick ship times
yep iv been waiting quite a while and im slightly worried im not going to see my package.i have no beef with dutch as far as im concerned hes a great guy my 1st order came in 9 days to the uk so i thought id beat the christmas traffic an ordered on the 22nd of november jus before listings were down,after day 17 i put an extension in the resolution center,all fine..day 28 i messaged dutch he replied saying post very busy this time of year which i know..then dutch hit me with another extension an a message saying post busy.now im on day 35 hopeing its hear any day now.i personally think he may have forgot to post it when it was put in transit..as i said no beef with the guy fingers are crossed it makes it.
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Anyone know Dutch's price on 10g of MDMA??
about $180 and some change.
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anyone package go missing due to the holidays/high mail volume? i noticed that i see a ton of people saying that they never received their package/believe it never shipped, but i haven't seen a single person complain in this thread. this makes me think that people are trying to get their scam/hustle on during the holiday/high mail volume; however this being said its been 30+days and nothing. this is concerning when people are posting fairly quick ship times
yep iv been waiting quite a while and im slightly worried im not going to see my package.i have no beef with dutch as far as im concerned hes a great guy my 1st order came in 9 days to the uk so i thought id beat the christmas traffic an ordered on the 22nd of november jus before listings were down,after day 17 i put an extension in the resolution center,all fine..day 28 i messaged dutch he replied saying post very busy this time of year which i know..then dutch hit me with another extension an a message saying post busy.now im on day 35 hopeing its hear any day now.i personally think he may have forgot to post it when it was put in transit..as i said no beef with the guy fingers are crossed it makes it.
I am in the same boat as you guys. my order was shipped nov 22 and i have yet to get it. I ordered 2 10g. I hope it is only due to the holidays ill keep you posted on my order i hope you will do the same!!
re-welcome me to the forums guys!! (forgot other account password :/)
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Anyone know Dutch's price on 10g of MDMA??
about $180 and some change.
More like $205 when you add the shipping costs. It's still a steal though.
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Anyone know Dutch's price on 10g of MDMA??
about $180 and some change.
Damn! was thinking about going w/ supertrips but I'm definitely doing to wait for Dutch at that price.
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I was around day 27.. and Dutch cancelled my order.. What does that mean? I have my bit back.. but have been waiting 27 days. I placed order right before his break. Messaged him and he assured me that my package has been sent.. what gives?
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Also waiting for a 10 g package i ordered on november 22nd... I get the feel Im not gonna get it gonna wait a couple more days to ask for refund tho
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Man that's so disappointing to hear these reports I was in your guys exact situation and I cancelled and ordered with Afterhour. I couldn't believe how fast it got to West Coast USA 9 days.. unbelievable I was astounded after mentally preparing myself for the 3-4 week dutch wait. But it was not an easy decision. 140 pages of reviews on the forums says it all. He's obviously a good seller in the big picture maybe he'll make things right.
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I ordered 10g MDMA in mid-November, got it 2 weeks later (east coast US), and was very impressed. Great product, sensational price, amazing packaging, and fantastic overall service. 10/10, would buy again, and would recommend to a friend as long as I'm not their local supplier haha.
Thanks Dutch! Can't wait until you start up again after new years!
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I specifically went with a larger order to have tracking and feel more secure with the order. I did have to sign but that did nit concern me. I actually never received tracking and stayed in escrow the entire time. I would have released funds earlier after customs but since I didn't receive tracking I just rode it out. I was in a small group that squeezed in orders during the one day listings were back up so I think Dutch wasn't concerned about getting FE and getting his coins quicker. Overall superb first deal with Dutch. I do wonder about all the claims of non arrival on untracked packs because it just seems like good opportunity to scam. But I've also been scammed by other buyers so I can relate to that frustration as well. Hope everyone gets what they need for nye and beyond.
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yea, im also one of the few that ordered around the 1st of December when his listings were up hoping to have it for new years... Have yet 2 received but seeing as other people are also waiting im getting skeptical about receiving 4NY...........That said it's only been ~20 shipping days so i just asked for an extension (witch dutch never responded and SR admins had 2 grant)......
Ill keep everyone updated!!....
p.s. im SE USA
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day 29, had to FE on day 19 cuz i forgot to ask for an extension, hope it comes here next week or my hopes are up :-\
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looks like people are getting refunds for never shipped. dutch can you chime in?
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yea, im also one of the few that ordered around the 1st of December when his listings were up hoping to have it for new years... Have yet 2 received but seeing as other people are also waiting im getting skeptical about receiving 4NY...........That said it's only been ~20 shipping days so i just asked for an extension (witch dutch never responded and SR admins had 2 grant)......
Ill keep everyone updated!!....
p.s. im SE USA
Exact same order situation except I'm in Canada. Getting a bit worried reading this thread but was expecting massive holiday delays and don't need it for any specific day, I just hope I receive it!
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feeling you and others-too many to quote, but yeah thought i ordered before the storm in the post. maybe some of you german folks can verify if the post is a pos and slow as hell. i could boat across and get my stuff faster...jk but like you just want to get it at some point. been 28days. resolution is coming up. resolution hit once and asked for an extension. resolution is about to hit again and dun know if i should ask for a refund or just keep extending this bitch :( wwyd?
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An order of mine never arrived. He offered a partial refund before 30 days.
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So it seems people who ordered before dutch took off his listings and paused before the new year are having delays in their orders.
Personally, my 2x 10g order was marked shipped to US on nov 22 and has yet to arrive. ive seen other cases as mine on the forums and id like to know HAS ANYONE received from dutchaandbod since Nov 22nd? Specifically to the usa. Dutch is a great vendor were only inquiring about our orders as we should :) keep me updated guys.
-Pinkfox
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ive been reading this thread and his reviews for months.. ive finally decided that its not worth it..
i rather deal with another vender a lot of his shit goes up missing.. supertrips seems way better right now..
this guy doesnt even do 100%refund.. so u loose money fucking with him.. ur taking a gamble..
i rather pay the little extra for the security ..
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ive been reading this thread and his reviews for months.. ive finally decided that its not worth it..
i rather deal with another vender a lot of his shit goes up missing.. supertrips seems way better right now..
this guy doesnt even do 100%refund.. so u loose money fucking with him.. ur taking a gamble..
i rather pay the little extra for the security ..
Ya But how many tracked orders go missing? NEVER...and if the trackin never works he does give a refund...everyone that claims a no show are all orders under 50g/..there for no proof that it was received.
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Greetings!
We analyze problem here and talk to many people to get details.
It seem that Dutch has problem with re-shippers. All orders seem to get there, but problem is they not ship out for 7-12 days until AFTER mark in transit.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM. :o
3-4 days delay to mark in transit
7-12 day before actual ship day
you already at almost 15 days since ordered and not even move yet. Then take 10-25 days to reach US, you look at 30-40 day delivery window.
we know over 7 people in past 2 months that order, and all arrive 100% but all take 25-45 days. analyze some packs seem in transit only 10-12 days but delays as above before it ship.
dutch need to clean up problem with re-shipper, but all seem to show up so far we hear.
greeets,
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ive been reading this thread and his reviews for months.. ive finally decided that its not worth it..
i rather deal with another vender a lot of his shit goes up missing.. supertrips seems way better right now..
this guy doesnt even do 100%refund.. so u loose money fucking with him.. ur taking a gamble..
i rather pay the little extra for the security ..
Worth the quality loss?
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100g order Day 26, Never received tracking but dutch assures its out. Hoping hoping hoping. Accidentlly FE when I meant to extend (Derrr) its ok though I just hope that if it was in fact not sent I do get a full refund.
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Had a 50G Order from OldAmsterdam from the NL make it and it was shipped five days after dutch. hope its just a delay! Cheers Ill keep updated.
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ive been reading this thread and his reviews for months.. ive finally decided that its not worth it..
i rather deal with another vender a lot of his shit goes up missing.. supertrips seems way better right now..
this guy doesnt even do 100%refund.. so u loose money fucking with him.. ur taking a gamble..
i rather pay the little extra for the security ..
Worth the quality loss?
what in the world are u talking about.. i herd dutch batch is pretty much the same if not worse people getting headaches after taking it and shit..
idk dude im rolling with supaa im out this thread dont mean to intrude
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Greetings!
We analyze problem here and talk to many people to get details.
It seem that Dutch has problem with re-shippers. All orders seem to get there, but problem is they not ship out for 7-12 days until AFTER mark in transit.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM. :o
3-4 days delay to mark in transit
7-12 day before actual ship day
you already at almost 15 days since ordered and not even move yet. Then take 10-25 days to reach US, you look at 30-40 day delivery window.
we know over 7 people in past 2 months that order, and all arrive 100% but all take 25-45 days. analyze some packs seem in transit only 10-12 days but delays as above before it ship.
dutch need to clean up problem with re-shipper, but all seem to show up so far we hear.
greeets,
who are you and what is your relationship with the seller? this method seems utterly stupid. i rather wait and receive accurate information. that being said why have you and not dutch made mention of this?
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Placed an order on 23th Nov, was marked as shipped on 30th. I made and extension and am still waiting.
EU Order.
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Registered just to post this. My 2nd time with Dutch, first transaction was flawless, but this one... "shipped" Nov. 30. Never received tracking for my 50g+ order. Dutch told me to wait 4 wks and then he'd look into it. After 4 wks no package, no tracking#, and no explanation. Now it's been 3 days since he last logged in.... anybody else think that seems a little sketchy? Thankfully everything's in escrow.... fingers crossed for full refund
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Registered just to post this. My 2nd time with Dutch, first transaction was flawless, but this one... "shipped" Nov. 30. Never received tracking for my 50g+ order. Dutch told me to wait 4 wks and then he'd look into it. After 4 wks no package, no tracking#, and no explanation. Now it's been 3 days since he last logged in.... anybody else think that seems a little sketchy? Thankfully everything's in escrow.... fingers crossed for full refund
No.what seems sketchy is how your ordering 100g MDMA and this is your first post ever.It's the holidays, of coarse he hasn't logged on...drug dealers take vacations too ya know.
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Registered just to post this. My 2nd time with Dutch, first transaction was flawless, but this one... "shipped" Nov. 30. Never received tracking for my 50g+ order. Dutch told me to wait 4 wks and then he'd look into it. After 4 wks no package, no tracking#, and no explanation. Now it's been 3 days since he last logged in.... anybody else think that seems a little sketchy? Thankfully everything's in escrow.... fingers crossed for full refund
To be honest I think the Christmas delays are a lot longer then we all think...I have a good feeling a lot of these 'missing' packages will turn up within the next 2 weeks. I have multiple orders I've been waiting on for up to 20 days now and never had any issues with receiving before so I am quite confident they will turn up EVENTUALLY...It's just a case of waiting it out sadly. If by mid jan still nothing then I'd say its then safe to say it's not coming, regardless of how long ago ordered.
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I too made an order on the 17th of November, which was marked in transit on the 20th I believe. It was at 36 days in resolution center, and I released the payment with 14 hours left because I didn't want the refund rate. It sucks, but really, if it is a loss, it's not so bad. What I am curious about is that I never received a letter from customs (I guess that would be the norm) saying anything was intercepted. A few months back I placed two separate orders at the same time, to different addresses in the same town. 1 showed up in ~8 days, the other was 30 days to the day (the order before my last one). This time I think it's been about 40 days now. It is what it is, I've had a few good transactions with him before, so I'll try him again for sure.
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ive been reading this thread and his reviews for months.. ive finally decided that its not worth it..
i rather deal with another vender a lot of his shit goes up missing.. supertrips seems way better right now..
this guy doesnt even do 100%refund.. so u loose money fucking with him.. ur taking a gamble..
i rather pay the little extra for the security ..
Ya But how many tracked orders go missing? NEVER...and if the trackin never works he does give a refund...everyone that claims a no show are all orders under 50g/..there for no proof that it was received.
@ asadpanda idk who the hell you think you are or what your implying but im on day 32 and no delivery yet and i have over 60+ sucessful orders under my belt and many more bits spent than you do so fuck off if you think those of us that havent recieved our shit yet are scamming here. i take offense at your stupidity and ignorance. i put in for a full refund and if my shit happens to come after i get refunded i would gladly contact db to send him the money. when you have a scammer you would have one or two out of 15-20 saying there shit never arrived not 20-20 dumbass!!
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ive been reading this thread and his reviews for months.. ive finally decided that its not worth it..
i rather deal with another vender a lot of his shit goes up missing.. supertrips seems way better right now..
this guy doesnt even do 100%refund.. so u loose money fucking with him.. ur taking a gamble..
i rather pay the little extra for the security ..
Ya But how many tracked orders go missing? NEVER...and if the trackin never works he does give a refund...everyone that claims a no show are all orders under 50g/..there for no proof that it was received.
@ asadpanda idk who the hell you think you are or what your implying but im on day 32 and no delivery yet and i have over 60+ sucessful orders under my belt and many more bits spent than you do so fuck off if you think those of us that havent recieved our shit yet are scamming here. i take offense at your stupidity and ignorance. i put in for a full refund and if my shit happens to come after i get refunded i would gladly contact db to send him the money. when you have a scammer you would have one or two out of 15-20 saying there shit never arrived not 20-20 dumbass!!
60+ trans and over 15k spent and only 5 post? Ok. How do you have all that btc spent and are only buying 5-10gs mdma? Doesn't make any sense..
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i take offense at your stupidity and ignorance. i put in for a full refund and if my shit happens to come after i get refunded i would gladly contact db to send him the money. when you have a scammer you would have one or two out of 15-20 saying there shit never arrived not 20-20 dumbass!!
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You can't even type correct and you're calling me stupid and ignorant? I'm not even going to argue with you, you're not even worth talking to you bloody little hamster.
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I have ordered MDMA several times from Dutchanbod and always 100g+ orders. His product is some of the best on SR and the price is amazing. Only down side is shipping takes forever. It takes three or more weeks to US east coast.
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Has anyone heard from Dutch recently?
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I did not request another time extension because I have good faith in Dutchaanbod (may be I am naive), and I know he needs his money to conduct business.
My package arrived today. 42 days after being marked shipped. The postage is marked December 3rd, but it was marked shipped on November 20th. So I can see where the one guy was coming from saying it was a problem with his resellers. Just to let you guys know, have some patience. He did not run out (or if he did, he shipped my order first.) These holidays are a bitch, happy rolling!
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I did not request another time extension because I have good faith in Dutchaanbod (may be I am naive), and I know he needs his money to conduct business.
My package arrived today. 42 days after being marked shipped. The postage is marked December 3rd, but it was marked shipped on November 20th. So I can see where the one guy was coming from saying it was a problem with his resellers. Just to let you guys know, have some patience. He did not run out (or if he did, he shipped my order first.) These holidays are a bitch, happy rolling!
Thanks, this is reassuring. Mine was marked shipped on Dec 6, still fairly confident that it's going to arrive.
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I did not request another time extension because I have good faith in Dutchaanbod (may be I am naive), and I know he needs his money to conduct business.
My package arrived today. 42 days after being marked shipped. The postage is marked December 3rd, but it was marked shipped on November 20th. So I can see where the one guy was coming from saying it was a problem with his resellers. Just to let you guys know, have some patience. He did not run out (or if he did, he shipped my order first.) These holidays are a bitch, happy rolling!
That's a relief to hear im on day 35 for 100g already finalized. With Dutch being gone and what not puts me on a little edge as its My first order from Dutch. Anyone else receiving packs?
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Good to know your pack came in. My 20g was marked in transit nov 22 and i have yet to arrive however i am i have an extension and i am waiting patiently but excited.
Pinkfox
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So hes just taking a break and not totally gone right?
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From reports in this thread it sounds like everything ordered after November 20th was actually sent with the later orders the first week of December. Those orders started coming in last week and are actively arriving. I received mine last week and people are reporting more arrivals this week.
What concerns me the most isn't Dutch being a scammer, but all the buyers with small orders that may be scamming him. It seems like a lot of orders are arriving on the 30-40 day range but people are getting refunds at the 30 day mark. If they receive an untracked package after getting a refund, is there incentive for them to pay back the refund? What worries me is that if thus happens frequently enough Dutch will have to change policy or quit altogether.
I'm not doubting that people are frustrated waiting for packages, but it pays to have some honesty if your package shows up because if not we may just lose another top vendor. And for those nonscammers who really are waiting, hopefully it just takes a little time. I truly believe Dutch is an honest vendor.
I would personally like tracking on all packs because it eliminates scams altogether, but also realize that is costly and does require signature.
-kolom0nster
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Policy changes are coming once Dutchaanbod is back. He said so on his page.
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Dutch should redo his listings. 50g, 100g, 250g, 500g, 1kg... all tracked. Less time on $100 orders, more time getting $1000+ orders out the door.
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From reports in this thread it sounds like everything ordered after November 20th was actually sent with the later orders the first week of December. Those orders started coming in last week and are actively arriving. I received mine last week and people are reporting more arrivals this week.
What concerns me the most isn't Dutch being a scammer, but all the buyers with small orders that may be scamming him. It seems like a lot of orders are arriving on the 30-40 day range but people are getting refunds at the 30 day mark. If they receive an untracked package after getting a refund, is there incentive for them to pay back the refund? What worries me is that if thus happens frequently enough Dutch will have to change policy or quit altogether.
I'm not doubting that people are frustrated waiting for packages, but it pays to have some honesty if your package shows up because if not we may just lose another top vendor. And for those nonscammers who really are waiting, hopefully it just takes a little time. I truly believe Dutch is an honest vendor.
I would personally like tracking on all packs because it eliminates scams altogether, but also realize that is costly and does require signature.
-kolom0nster
Agreed
GOD I AM SO SICK OF FUCKING SCAMMERS YOU ARE RUINING THE SILKROAD!
Dutch has AMAZING prices, even on his 10g..........God help me if one of you idiots fucks it up for everyone.
Just be patient!
/rant
It is amazing that some people just dont realize how lucky we are to have people such as dutch give us great deals.
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I agree!
I have had nothing but flawless transactions from Dutchaanbod. Yes, it took about 3 weeks to arrive to Australia, but all I had to do was extend the auto-finalise date.
The prices are very good, and the product is top quality.
It would make it easier for dutchaanod to kill off the 1gm listing though, maybe a minimum of 5gm. I think a minimum of 50gm is a bit high, because that is a LOT of MDMA, and most people wouldn't be comfortable ordering that quantity in one order.
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As we said.... biggest problem seems to be 10 day delay between order and when actually sent out.
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Does any person have actual REVIEW of current or recent batch?
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has anyone who placed an order from 11/20 to 11/30 received their order yet?
my order was supposedly shipped on 11/30.
finalized out of good faith, just trying to hear whats going on with others who placed orders around the same time.
thanks
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I am in two minds about Dutchaanbod. After careful research (sic!), I ordered around 7 November 2012 5gr M and never received the product. It took until 31 December to get a 50% refund. Fair enough I suppose, but were it not for the fact that so many more have not received their (smaller) package. I paid around 2btc for postage, that could easily cover track and trace. DA, simply provide track and trace, also on the smaller orders, and there is no question about the package being send or not.
I can image that Dutchaanbod makes use of a courier friend and he/she dips in the packages not covered by track and trace. Indirect selective scamming. Or, his admin is so messy, DA does not know what has been send and which orders have not.
There is another possibility that is, that the package is so stealth that I (or my partner) have discarded the package as junk mail! Can one of you, who has received a smaller order, dispel that possibility??? Is it easily discarded? (I know that the address I have passed on is correct).
One last thing, I have issued my address encrypted, could it be that the people (again small orders) that have received a package, give their address in the clear and not encrypted? Meaning DA cannot be bothered to decrypt all the smaller order and just marks them in transit ... (just thinking out loud).
Something is not right. I would like to give DA the benefit of the doubt ....
If I receive the other 50% refund I wwould trust DA again... :)
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Looking forward to Dutchaanbod's return and sorting out this mess. I have never had molly of such purity.. and the natives are restless.. asking me when there will be more. :-)
Any idea when he's likely to be back to usual guys?
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What worries me is that if thus happens frequently enough Dutch will have to change policy or quit altogether.
This is worrisome for me as well. Hopefully before he quit all together (if he does), he would just give private listings to reputable buyers. I would sure hate to lose this connection over some punks ripping him off for chump change, especially when there's so much to be made in the long run.
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The fate of my summer music festivals lay in Dutch's hands...please, please, please come back soon so we can get back to work!
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The fate of my summer music festivals lay in Dutch's hands...please, please, please come back soon so we can get back to work!
Lol it's barley January and your already preparing for your summer festivals? NICE... I guess with SR, you kinda have to plan at least 1-2 months ahead of time if you want some quality M for a descent price.
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you can get it year round on SR for about the same prices what are you talking about.
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Dutch should redo his listings. 50g, 100g, 250g, 500g, 1kg... all tracked. Less time on $100 orders, more time getting $1000+ orders out the door.
I really do hope something like this happens. I imagine DA would welcome the decrease in volume.
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You guys are ridiculous. Its pretty obvious that he never shipped those orders out or atleast a date far later than what was he was supposed to. Seriously has ANYBODY recieved an order "shipped" around the 22nd? Idk how you can say a 1/5 rating and a 100% refund isn't deserved. NO Communication WHATSOEVER. If i ever order from dutch again (if he ever comes back) its going to be tracked. He needs to straighten his shit out. I requested my refund on day 40 after it became CLEAR he never shipped it.
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The fate of my summer music festivals lay in Dutch's hands...please, please, please come back soon so we can get back to work!
Lol it's barley January and your already preparing for your summer festivals? NICE... I guess with SR, you kinda have to plan at least 1-2 months ahead of time if you want some quality M for a descent price.
Patience, planning and the motherfucking POST.
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i ordered placed NOV 20th something and had my order shipped a few days before December. NOTHING CAME. clock ran out and got a 14 day extension. put in 2x resolutions extend or refund. i got a refund. just saying i do believe others in that dutch never sent. imo really bad time to buy. hence me trying to get it before the holiday rush. got from dutch 4 or 5 times; first time nothing showed.
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Ah! I was just about to order something again, hoping he was coming back on the 1st or 2nd of January like he said. I'm glad I got my order before all this craziness happened.
Hopefully everything's good with him and we will hear something from him soon. I need an order soon, but I really don't want to go through anybody else besides DA. I was thinking supertrips, but the 90 rating kinda scares me.
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DUTCHAANBOD has always been very easy to work with.
I order his 100g listing and it came before 17 days, it actually took 14 days.
7 days for tracking to start working
7 days after it said it was at German sort facility, I got it.
Hopefully Dutch comes back for then he can take my bitcoins for his MDMA ;D
BTW: I did an order of his MDMA and it made it to me (USA) in 14 days total. But the tracking did not update until after I received the package. I was just glad to have tracking for then I can plan on when it was going to be here. I would love for Dutch to be back tho!
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PLEASE DUTCH, COME BACK!!! I HAVE RENT TO PAY !!!! LOL But seriously, I've ordered hundreds of grams from Dutch and the product is always amazing, incredibly priced, packed better than any other SR vendor I've dealt with, and certainly faster than Sky, Supertrips or Afterhours. PLEASE DUTCH, COME BACK!!! :)
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this guy got greedy.and did wht every one ds start burning people..he only gives us bk 50% so just buy us placing order and hm
given us shit he makes $$.he got lazy.and stoped sending stuff...I HATE SCAMERS!!!!THEY JUST WASTE ARE TIME
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you moron he didnt turn scammer he obv has issues
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Everyone just smoke a fatty and just chillt..he's probably still on vacation. He has no reason to turn scammer. So please get outta here with that non-sense!
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Looks to me like those that kept extending eventually got a cancel order/100% refund/no effects on stats from dutch. Those that insisted on a refund early usually got a 50% refund. A few people think SR staff gave them a 100% refund but likely it was dutch coming in and giving them a refund.
That doesn't mean that the orders didn't ship. There are numerous possibilities including the possibility that all of these packs are going to start showing up. I've heard from 2 people lately that waited 35-45 days to receive packs from Germany.
regardless I just don't want dutch to get so frustrated that he raises prices. Very few people with orders shipped by registered mail have had issues. One reason for that might be that registered mail is treated more securely by the post. Another thing is that at least a few people have no doubt tried to scam dutch. And then there are mistakes and such that are made.
dutch came back I would like to order 100g+. :)
qft
i do pref dutch over other venders. i did get a full refund; my stats were not affected so i assume dutch was active and canceled/refunded. this has never happened. that being said if the package does arrive i will send him his coins. seller deserves it. if dutch doesnt comeback who will compete with AH prices?
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When is dutch supposed to have his listings back up?
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I just hope he comes back. I finalized $1600 on accident with never receiving tracking.. Trying to extend... They should have a confirmation button for sure.. For that kind of money. Day 40 today and Dutch has not logged on in 7 days according to his profile. Gonna hurt my cash flow if he never returns. Wasn't a good first transaction with Dutch. He's a power seller so hopefully he will return or package does finally show. Loosing faith though :-\ marked on 11/30
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this guy got greedy.and did wht every one ds start burning people..he only gives us bk 50% so just buy us placing order and hm
given us shit he makes $$.he got lazy.and stoped sending stuff...I HATE SCAMERS!!!!THEY JUST WASTE ARE TIME
You sir, can seriously go back to your little basement. Dutch is a straight forward guy. I bet HE is the one who gets scammed by alot of people from the US!
I heard rumours that he will only ship EU for sometime...would benefit us all and give him a more pleasent business.
Happy New Years! :-*
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i ordered placed NOV 20th something and had my order shipped a few days before December. NOTHING CAME. clock ran out and got a 14 day extension. put in 2x resolutions extend or refund. i got a refund. just saying i do believe others in that dutch never sent. imo really bad time to buy. hence me trying to get it before the holiday rush. got from dutch 4 or 5 times; first time nothing showed.
I had my order marked as shipped on 11/20. It arrived 1/2. The envelope was stamped 12/3 though, 2 weeks after it was marked shipped. I have had orders take as long as 30 days when it wasn't christmas. I think the issue lies with his shippers, and people severely underestimating the volume of mail this time of year.
Hopefully he is just laying low until packages start arriving and people stop freaking out, and hopefully he will be back in a week or so (or at least put some private listings up for the people who aren't complaining *hint hint if you read this*).
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Sam Crow, Here's the dealio with that. I understand it wouldn't affect you, but it would affect a TON of people this side of the atlantic. I'm small potatoes and I've never ordered from dutch with enough quantity to require tracking, but he's come through for me just fine.
There are however, some people over here who purchase some SERIOUS bulk and I don't THINK he'd like to give that up. I know ST sends here, but in all honesty, the batch i got from dutch(white) was significantly better than the one i got from ST(gray). I'd be broken hearted if I was denied the ability to order from DA!
Then again, I've been here for nearly 2 years and I've had over 40 successful purchases on this account with 0% refund, so I'm not much of a liability for him and I trust him. Shit, you guys are bitching about this? I had a ST order last year months BEFORE his big fiasco where I waited just shy of 50 days for a pack NOT IN HOLIDAY SEASON! ST didn't even have to smuggle it across a border before it was sent. You knew it would take a while when you ordered; Stop bitching.
If in two weeks packs still haven't shown up, I will eat my words. Till then eat a xanax, smoke a bowl, go about your daily life. When it shows up: come back, man up, and tell us. :D
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Sam Crow, Here's the dealio with that. I understand it wouldn't affect you, but it would affect a TON of people this side of the atlantic. I'm small potatoes and I've never ordered from dutch with enough quantity to require tracking, but he's come through for me just fine.
There are however, some people over here who purchase some SERIOUS bulk and I don't THINK he'd like to give that up. I know ST sends here, but in all honesty, the batch i got from dutch(white) was significantly better than the one i got from ST(gray). I'd be broken hearted if I was denied the ability to order from DA!
Then again, I've been here for nearly 2 years and I've had over 40 successful purchases on this account with 0% refund, so I'm not much of a liability for him and I trust him. Shit, you guys are bitching about this? I had a ST order last year months BEFORE his big fiasco where I waited just shy of 50 days for a pack NOT IN HOLIDAY SEASON! ST didn't even have to smuggle it across a border before it was sent. You knew it would take a while when you ordered; Stop bitching.
If in two weeks packs still haven't shown up, I will eat my words. Till then eat a xanax, smoke a bowl, go about your daily life. When it shows up: come back, man up, and tell us. :D
+1 for smoking a bowl ;D
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most of you guys here suck dick for a living huh? get off dutchies ballsack you fucking fags a realize theres like 35 people who havent recieved there shit yet!! your orders went splendid well woopdie fucking doo! alot of other orders havent. And why the fuck do we have to wait 45 motherfucking daYS for our shit to arrive when other vendors make it here in a resonable time. some of you fags need to take the dicks out of your mouths and instead of blasting the people who havent recieved there shit start demanding better service from our vendors. if buisness is to big to handle on his end then slow the fuck down and keep up with your orders!!
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most of you guys here suck dick for a living huh? get off dutchies ballsack you fucking fags a realize theres like 35 people who havent recieved there shit yet!! your orders went splendid well woopdie fucking doo! alot of other orders havent. And why the fuck do we have to wait 45 motherfucking daYS for our shit to arrive when other vendors make it here in a resonable time. some of you fags need to take the dicks out of your mouths and instead of blasting the people who havent recieved there shit start demanding better service from our vendors. if buisness is to big to handle on his end then slow the fuck down and keep up with your orders!!
You are one dumb person...
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All waiting for dutchy :P
can anybody tell me who is located in the EU if Dutch sends his mdma in chunks or also alot of sand such as AH? << not complaining, stuff was still topshelf!
thx
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you guys must really be homos because i ordered a package from juergen on christmas eve and it arrived 7 days later the following monday. from germany may i add with a holiday and a sunday in between so stop hanging on his nuts. its one to give a vendor props but you guys are ridiculous with this shit. he could give two shits about you or whether you lived or died as long as he got your money. why not send him an invite to easter you idiots!!
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you guys must really be homos because i ordered a package from juergen on christmas eve and it arrived 7 days later the following monday. from germany may i add with a holiday and a sunday in between so stop hanging on his nuts. its one to give a vendor props but you guys are ridiculous with this shit. he could give two shits about you or whether you lived or died as long as he got your money. why not send him an invite to easter you idiots!!
You must be a really cool guy :)
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you moron he didnt turn scammer he obv has issues
ur the LAME ..GET OFF HIS NUTS.HE WENT SACM..AND A -1 FOR U HAAHAAH :-*FOR BN A NUT SUCKER
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you moron he didnt turn scammer he obv has issues
ur the LAME ..GET OFF HIS NUTS.HE WENT SACM..AND A -1 FOR U HAAHAAH :-*FOR BN A NUT SUCKER
You know what? I was being patient... now you can see shit turn around to you. Just wait and enjoy.
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you guys must really be homos because i ordered a package from juergen on christmas eve and it arrived 7 days later the following monday. from germany may i add with a holiday and a sunday in between so stop hanging on his nuts. its one to give a vendor props but you guys are ridiculous with this shit. he could give two shits about you or whether you lived or died as long as he got your money. why not send him an invite to easter you idiots!!
assuming your an american citizen i call complete bullshit on this. no way a package from germany is going to get to the US in 5 shipping days, especially with holiday shipping times slowing everything down. you need to also quit all your stupid rage bullshit, nobody likes a redneck who's talking out their ass. the people giving him props are long time customers who much larger business then most customers, they have lots of history with the vendor and thats why they so willingly defend him, you on the other hand are some noob who probably has a 10g order like the rest of us all pissed off just because its taking long when DA states himself that it will. and even if he didnt, its no big secret, everybody knows or will know as soon as they check the forums. if you didnt do that, thats you own damn fault, and if you did, then why bitch when you already were told shipping would take so long?
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ive been around alot longer than most of you fuckers. jusat because i dont post in the forums dont mean im new to the game. october 2011 to be exact i arrived on silk so put that in your pipe and smoke it!! Also i dont lie bout juegen 7 days from ship to door. maybe he ships when its actually marked shipped idk it must be magic. Oh and one more thing this isnt my first time with dutch either so i know the game but since hes been in action name one time he had over 30 no shows in a row?????????????? NEVER ASSHOLE!!!!
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ive been around alot longer than most of you fuckers. jusat because i dont post in the forums dont mean im new to the game. october 2011 to be exact i arrived on silk so put that in your pipe and smoke it!! Also i dont lie bout juegen 7 days from ship to door. maybe he ships when its actually marked shipped idk it must be magic. Oh and one more thing this isnt my first time with dutch either so i know the game but since hes been in action name one time he had over 30 no shows in a row?????????????? NEVER ASSHOLE!!!!
haha go back behind the mcdonalds counter so you can effort your next shot. CRAZY AMERICANS! Hope russia pulls through soon...
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Sweet meltdowns up in here.
Like I mentioned, it seems that packs ordered after November 20 were sent December 3rd (Dispatch is confirming that on this board). Give it another week because it seems we are right in the typical timeframe for dutch's arrivals(around 30 days) and there are 2 holidays and slow December shipping. Not saying there can't be other problems, but we'll know a lot more very soon. I do think the delay between "in transit" and actual shipment (almost 2 weeks in this case) is problematic for Dutch because once you start pushing people past 30 days it's hard to convince them to be patient and that it will actually come. Hopefully he considers that, but in the end we accept slow shipping and just want stuff to arrive.
Also don't think the other guy is lying about 7 day shipping, I've had that before and occasionally you get really lucky. Obviously dutch's packs always take longer for whatever reason.
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I was really looking forward to making a purchase from dutch as I've never ordered from him before.
Hope he's just taking extended holidays and nothing bad happened :-\
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Well, I wasn't sure if I was going to post about this, I thought what happened to me was an isolated incidence. However, with everything going on in this thread I have to believe that's not true. I think I know why a lot of people aren't getting their mail...
I've placed two orders with dutch and I received both orders long ago. I checked the mail about 10 days after I got my second order and what do I behold? There is ANOTHER package from dutch, one I am 100% certain I did not order. I had no pending shipments from any other vendors, and if you've ordered with dutch before it's obvious who its from. The 'real' orders I placed before were both 10 grams each, I got 10 grams in both orders. In the extra order, was another 10 grams.
I think dutch might have fucked up his shipment list one week and sent orders to all the wrong people. Maybe I was the only one, but I'm guessing not? Anyone else want to fess up?
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i also received another 10 grams that i didnt order, and it was def from dutch
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Well, I wasn't sure if I was going to post about this, I thought what happened to me was an isolated incidence. However, with everything going on in this thread I have to believe that's not true. I think I know why a lot of people aren't getting their mail...
I've placed two orders with dutch and I received both orders long ago. I checked the mail about 10 days after I got my second order and what do I behold? There is ANOTHER package from dutch, one I am 100% certain I did not order. I had no pending shipments from any other vendors, and if you've ordered with dutch before it's obvious who its from. The 'real' orders I placed before were both 10 grams each, I got 10 grams in both orders. In the extra order, was another 10 grams.
I think dutch might have fucked up his shipment list one week and sent orders to all the wrong people. Maybe I was the only one, but I'm guessing not? Anyone else want to fess up?
I experienced EXACTLY the same dude.
Got 10g 'bonus' from Dutch.
I messaged him about that, long time ago, offering to paid the 'bonus' , he never answered me ...
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I had my order marked as shipped on 11/20. It arrived 1/2. The envelope was stamped 12/3 though, 2 weeks after it was marked shipped.
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EXACTLY like we say earlier and nobody pay attention.
3-4 days to mark in transit, 7-10 days before actually shipped after that. 14 days before anything even moves, THIS is the problem.
Seem to take 10-15 business days to arrive, add 14days to that, and you have 30+ days till arrival... problem is with re-shippers we guess.
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well today folks is day 44 for me iv extended a few times now because i really had faith in my order coming but after reading that you people above got bonus grams i have a feeling now it may be a no show.is there any success on 40+ days over this devilish christmas period?
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I've placed one order to Dutch months ago, which I got soon enough. It seems since then there's been some issues (and he doesn't seem to be selling anything right now). However, I feel it's only fair to point out that the packaging on what I received was top notch! Ninja to the max.
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Trust me it was not a holiday gift lol... like mentioned Dutch or his mailer must have messed up the shipping list and all the missing packs went to other people... at least 5 have stepped forward so imagine all those who haven't and also all those without accounts here!! I'm sure it was a major fuck up and I believe he will make it right if he comes back and trust me I want him back ASAP :)
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Shit happens. I was in escrow and Dutch cancled my order, giving full refund. I hope he learns from the mistake and comes back with a vengeance! We need your great service, prices, and product Dutch!!!
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Some good information in this thread, going to keep pushing back my resolution to keep my funds in escrow until things get sorted out - really hope my order didn't get sent to someone else!
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for my second order with dutch I ordered 20g....2 weeks ago I received 10,of which approx 2.5-3 grams was all over all the layers of packaging.I sent him a message and he said he will reship my missing amount and just get back with him after the new year.
I believe him.....and to those receiving free packages,WOW.I wish I was that lucky,although I would probably throw him a few BTC for a present as well to even karma out.
Hope you all get your stuff....PEACE
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For the record we were having some of the same issues for people who ordered in late-November / early-December. A lot of our packages just started arriving to the USA in the last day or two. I believe many vendors are marking things "in-transit" long before they actually send them out. I assume they do this to prevent people from bitching about them as to "why their package hasn't shipped yet", etc.
Keep your money in escrow as long as you can.
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Well I had faith and finalized like an idiot then. Would have much rather burned that $1600 to keep warm or something. I sure hope he does come back. Monday is day 38, I can recover but that's not a chump change 5 gram bag, in a business you count your lost potential profit as actual lost profit. I'm out $5000 not cool. I feel him Atleast making an appearance on his vacation like he was doing in the beginning would be appropriate.. He told me he was not home so he couldn't check tracking (which I never received) which indicates to Mr he's already started his vaction at that time. It's now 8 days since login 6 days past his stated return. Had a pack from NL in 17 days and a Germany express pack in 5 days (was amazing) silk Road support can do nothing for me. It's nice to say don't sweat it but I have a business which I support multiple people not to mention myself. When people blow me up everyday It's a reminder I could have gone through 500g easy by now but my working capital is gone. If it arrives great, if Dutch comes and gives me a refund great, if it doesn't show iaand I bite it the fuck ever ill order again.
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Just a point I noticed about his recent feedback that some of you may be overlooking
When dutch was in his peak around October-Early Nov, I very carefully read feedback from every single listing ever since he came back (I was one of the first to order with him upon his return, and even received an extra 20% on my first 100g order) and he received exceptional feedback from almost every listing. I recall only seeing maybe 2 no shows on 100g orders (when his listings were active), but nothing was said in the forums about it which makes me feel that wasn't valid. He provided a very high percentage of his customers with a very high level of satisfaction, although as he got more busy the post time became very slow, but mostly successful nonetheless (even on untracked orders). His stealth is top notch, and even if inspected one would have to look hard to find the contents.
With that said-Dutch hasn't had listings up for around a month now and all feedback received now is just orders that were going through resolution, which can take over a month to come to a resolution. He stuck by his STATED policy of a 50% refund for a now show, and SR has been generous enough to offer 100% as of late, probably due to his disappearance. One can speculate the reasoning for his recent disappearance, but I don't think it was with the intention to defraud his customers.
Anyways, I recall before he took his listings down he had at least 5 pages of feedback from 100g packs-at exactly $1,537 per pack and at 10 feedbacks per page this is over $76,000 in around two and a half months of vending. This doesn't include the many, many 1-50g packs that went out, which I can't even ballpark as I didn't pay attention to those listings as much.
Conclusion? I'd bet that he's probably sitting on a gold mine of BTC which I'm sure can be laborious to safely withdraw that much and I'm sure vending on here can consume a tremendous amount of time. Vendors come and go, another vendor will replace Dutch in due time if he's really done, however one can only help he's going to return and continue sending his beautiful MDMA all over the world.
Is it possible he turned "Scammer"? Sure, it's always a risk we take here but with the amount of $ he makes running his business, I'm sure scamming his customers are on the bottom end of his priorities (we can only hope).
Even with all the negative feedback and bitching, he's still I'm sure in the top 3% with a 98.3% rating which should be an easy indicator of how successful he's been when he had active listings.
I'm just stating carefully thought out facts/opinions here, anything is possible but if he does come back I bet he will settle with those who have yet to receive a resolution-he's good people and I don't believe he's out to 'get' anybody.
Hope this helps people better understand the bigger picture of what's possibly going on here. Much love to you all, I hope your packages come in fast and heavy.
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Just a point I noticed about his recent feedback that some of you may be overlooking
When dutch was in his peak around October-Early Nov, I very carefully read feedback from every single listing ever since he came back (I was one of the first to order with him upon his return, and even received an extra 20% on my first 100g order) and he received exceptional feedback from almost every listing. I recall only seeing maybe 2 no shows on 100g orders (when his listings were active), but nothing was said in the forums about it which makes me feel that wasn't valid. He provided a very high percentage of his customers with a very high level of satisfaction, although as he got more busy the post time became very slow, but mostly successful nonetheless (even on untracked orders). His stealth is top notch, and even if inspected one would have to look hard to find the contents.
With that said-Dutch hasn't had listings up for around a month now and all feedback received now is just orders that were going through resolution, which can take over a month to come to a resolution. He stuck by his STATED policy of a 50% refund for a now show, and SR has been generous enough to offer 100% as of late, probably due to his disappearance. One can speculate the reasoning for his recent disappearance, but I don't think it was with the intention to defraud his customers.
Anyways, I recall before he took his listings down he had at least 5 pages of feedback from 100g packs-at exactly $1,537 per pack and at 10 feedbacks per page this is over $76,000 in around two and a half months of vending. This doesn't include the many, many 1-50g packs that went out, which I can't even ballpark as I didn't pay attention to those listings as much.
Conclusion? I'd bet that he's probably sitting on a gold mine of BTC which I'm sure can be laborious to safely withdraw that much and I'm sure vending on here can consume a tremendous amount of time. Vendors come and go, another vendor will replace Dutch in due time if he's really done, however one can only help he's going to return and continue sending his beautiful MDMA all over the world.
Is it possible he turned "Scammer"? Sure, it's always a risk we take here but with the amount of $ he makes running his business, I'm sure scamming his customers are on the bottom end of his priorities (we can only hope).
Even with all the negative feedback and bitching, he's still I'm sure in the top 3% with a 98.3% rating which should be an easy indicator of how successful he's been when he had active listings.
I'm just stating carefully thought out facts/opinions here, anything is possible but if he does come back I bet he will settle with those who have yet to receive a resolution-he's good people and I don't believe he's out to 'get' anybody.
Hope this helps people better understand the bigger picture of what's possibly going on here. Much love to you all, I hope your packages come in fast and heavy.
You sir... +1... Broken hand so typing is a Bitch, but thank you! Every thing I would say in one... and more!
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Hi all
We are back after allot of trouble....
I was on vacation the laptop i take with me but it crashed the first day i was there ....
so i was not able to come online..
About the package's there is much going wrong the packaging guys send all stuff to the old addresses that where already send out.
so people receive double there amount that is no problem the persons who receive it just see it as a Christmas present :)
The people who have ordered at last i have give all there money back ...
we will be back up this week with our new listing prices will be the same ass before also our policy will not change...
We are just people and people make faults..
I deleted all message's there are over 500+ message's we will make a new start :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
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Hey Dutch, nice to hear from you and welcome back! I ordered during the one day you put your listings back up at the beginning of December, did not receive anything and my order is still in resolution without a refund. Is it for sure that my order was shipped to the wrong person and I should be getting a refund, or is there a chance mine is just delayed and is going to make it to me? Are you going to be offering reships to people who had their orders go to someone else? To be honest I just really want to receive my product instead of a refund and placing a new order. I think other people in this thread will have similar questions. Thank you :)
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Good to see you are back.
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Hi
i am busy to refund all people have have ordered begin December..
We don do reships we give you all your money back so we can make new start..
Dutchaanbod
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Hi all
We are back after allot of trouble....
I was on vacation the laptop i take with me but it crashed the first day i was there ....
so i was not able to come online..
About the package's there is much going wrong the packaging guys send all stuff to the old addresses that where already send out.
so people receive double there amount that is no problem the persons who receive it just see it as a Christmas present :)
The people who have ordered at last i have give all there money back ...
we will be back up this week with our new listing prices will be the same ass before also our policy will not change...
We are just people and people make faults..
I deleted all message's there are over 500+ message's we will make a new start :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
thank you for my refund dutch, i hold nothing against you...as you said your only human and mistakes are made its how we learn to better ourselves cant wait to place a new order when listings are back ill always be a loyal customers as long as you continue to be a great vendor. 8)
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Got my refund as well, thank you Dutch, appreciate your honesty.
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Waiting on a 100g refund and Ill be happy =) had me worried and now I bite my tounge..
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Glad to see you're back, I'm looking forward to place my next order!
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When do you expect to have your listings back up Dutchaanbod?
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Hey Dutch! Super glad you're back!
I placed a 60g order and it supposedly shipped Nov. 30th. Earlier today you refunded me. Does that mean the package will NEVER show up at my address? Or did you refund everyone to cover your bases? It's totally cool if it will never show up as I can just get more but I was unclear.
Thank you for your time.
Herbert1
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How I have awaited his return...
fuck I almost thought Dutch was going going gone with all the no show packages...
glad to see otherwise.
Hope you enjoyed your vacation, we will be needing a lot of work ;)
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Told you all he was good people...love you Dutch (no homo!) ;D
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I received an ignorant message and not my refund.
This guy took over a month to come here and say that he screwed up. His prices are not worth this hassle. I ordered at the very end of November getting prepared for new years.
I really hope you guys are not willing to take such a chance on this vendor.
I received a 50% refund by SR staff when my extension ran out.
Why should I lose stats and coins when he clearly stated that he didn't send us shit.
One scary thing is that he keeps old information. He doesn't destroy information he uses it over and over again. No policy changes are being made so i'll bet this will happen again.
G
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Glad you are back! Eager to put in some orders!
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Glad you are back Dutch.
Take as long as you need to get everything worked out.
Will continue to support you.
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Super Stoked DA is back! :D
you guys must really be homos because i ordered a package from juergen on christmas eve and it arrived 7 days later the following monday. from germany may i add with a holiday and a sunday in between so stop hanging on his nuts. its one to give a vendor props but you guys are ridiculous with this shit. he could give two shits about you or whether you lived or died as long as he got your money. why not send him an invite to easter you idiots!!
assuming your an american citizen i call complete bullshit on this. no way a package from germany is going to get to the US in 5 shipping days, especially with holiday shipping times slowing everything down. you need to also quit all your stupid rage bullshit, nobody likes a redneck who's talking out their ass. the people giving him props are long time customers who much larger business then most customers, they have lots of history with the vendor and thats why they so willingly defend him, you on the other hand are some noob who probably has a 10g order like the rest of us all pissed off just because its taking long when DA states himself that it will. and even if he didnt, its no big secret, everybody knows or will know as soon as they check the forums. if you didnt do that, thats you own damn fault, and if you did, then why bitch when you already were told shipping would take so long?
Actually, those shipping times aren't unheard of. I used to order from Sesampino(more than a year ago) and I'd get my orders in 5 or 6 days - NOT just shipping days. For instance, Id order on a wednesday and I'd receive the pack next monday or tuesday from Germany to the US.
Also, when Pf was vending, right before he quit i believe, DeadRa7 received a pack from him to the midwest US in 4 days unless I'm mistaken.
Keep in mind these shipping times are the exception not the rule(although ses's packs never took longer than 8 days), but just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's impossible.
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3 Cheers for Dutch! can't wait for listings to be active again. :D
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Glad to see ya back... Ive had many transactions with dutch and all but the last one has arrived! Received a full refund though and you best believe I will continue conducting business with silkroad's finest
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Super Stoked DA is back! :D
you guys must really be homos because i ordered a package from juergen on christmas eve and it arrived 7 days later the following monday. from germany may i add with a holiday and a sunday in between so stop hanging on his nuts. its one to give a vendor props but you guys are ridiculous with this shit. he could give two shits about you or whether you lived or died as long as he got your money. why not send him an invite to easter you idiots!!
assuming your an american citizen i call complete bullshit on this. no way a package from germany is going to get to the US in 5 shipping days, especially with holiday shipping times slowing everything down. you need to also quit all your stupid rage bullshit, nobody likes a redneck who's talking out their ass. the people giving him props are long time customers who much larger business then most customers, they have lots of history with the vendor and thats why they so willingly defend him, you on the other hand are some noob who probably has a 10g order like the rest of us all pissed off just because its taking long when DA states himself that it will. and even if he didnt, its no big secret, everybody knows or will know as soon as they check the forums. if you didnt do that, thats you own damn fault, and if you did, then why bitch when you already were told shipping would take so long?
Actually, those shipping times aren't unheard of. I used to order from Sesampino(more than a year ago) and I'd get my orders in 5 or 6 days - NOT just shipping days. For instance, Id order on a wednesday and I'd receive the pack next monday or tuesday from Germany to the US.
Also, when Pf was vending, right before he quit i believe, DeadRa7 received a pack from him to the midwest US in 4 days unless I'm mistaken.
Keep in mind these shipping times are the exception not the rule(although ses's packs never took longer than 8 days), but just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's impossible.
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3 Cheers for Dutch! can't wait for listings to be active again. :D
Yesss! Glad he's back in action! And yes, I too ordered from PF right before he quit and I got my order to West Coast USA in 3 days lol
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This guy accumulates orders so he can send them all at once.
probably every 2 weeks or so until he will actually ship out a load.
No way in hell does German mail take this long. It's the vendor not the postal service
I have yet to receive my refund and he's talking to me like I fucked him over. Not sure why I deserve to have my stats shit on when this vendor clearly stated that he screwed up and decided to send out a previous batch of orders twice. (security is clearly not their strong point)
Waiting on my refund and I will order from a competent vendor.
Thank you
Dave.
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This guy accumulates orders so he can send them all at once.
probably every 2 weeks or so until he will actually ship out a load.
No way in hell does German mail take this long. It's the vendor not the postal service
I have yet to receive my refund and he's talking to me like I fucked him over. Not sure why I deserve to have my stats shit on when this vendor clearly stated that he screwed up and decided to send out a previous batch of orders twice. (security is clearly not their strong point)
Waiting on my refund and I will order from a competent vendor.
Thank you
Dave.
Don't worry, you'll grow up some day.
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Super Stoked DA is back! :D
you guys must really be homos because i ordered a package from juergen on christmas eve and it arrived 7 days later the following monday. from germany may i add with a holiday and a sunday in between so stop hanging on his nuts. its one to give a vendor props but you guys are ridiculous with this shit. he could give two shits about you or whether you lived or died as long as he got your money. why not send him an invite to easter you idiots!!
assuming your an american citizen i call complete bullshit on this. no way a package from germany is going to get to the US in 5 shipping days, especially with holiday shipping times slowing everything down. you need to also quit all your stupid rage bullshit, nobody likes a redneck who's talking out their ass. the people giving him props are long time customers who much larger business then most customers, they have lots of history with the vendor and thats why they so willingly defend him, you on the other hand are some noob who probably has a 10g order like the rest of us all pissed off just because its taking long when DA states himself that it will. and even if he didnt, its no big secret, everybody knows or will know as soon as they check the forums. if you didnt do that, thats you own damn fault, and if you did, then why bitch when you already were told shipping would take so long?
Actually, those shipping times aren't unheard of. I used to order from Sesampino(more than a year ago) and I'd get my orders in 5 or 6 days - NOT just shipping days. For instance, Id order on a wednesday and I'd receive the pack next monday or tuesday from Germany to the US.
Also, when Pf was vending, right before he quit i believe, DeadRa7 received a pack from him to the midwest US in 4 days unless I'm mistaken.
Keep in mind these shipping times are the exception not the rule(although ses's packs never took longer than 8 days), but just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's impossible.
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3 Cheers for Dutch! can't wait for listings to be active again. :D
Ive get packs all the way from India thru TNT to w.coast usa in 4 or 5 actual days. My longest from dutch was 39 days and shortest was 29, it drives me nuts but his product is amazing.
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Hi
i am busy to refund all people have have ordered begin December..
We don do reships we give you all your money back so we can make new start..
Dutchaanbod
how about the people who ordered the last or second to last week on Nov...our shit is still coming through/in the air?
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Hi all
We are back after allot of trouble....
I was on vacation the laptop i take with me but it crashed the first day i was there ....
so i was not able to come online..
About the package's there is much going wrong the packaging guys send all stuff to the old addresses that where already send out.
so people receive double there amount that is no problem the persons who receive it just see it as a Christmas present :)
The people who have ordered at last i have give all there money back ...
we will be back up this week with our new listing prices will be the same ass before also our policy will not change...
We are just people and people make faults..
I deleted all message's there are over 500+ message's we will make a new start :)
Greats Dutchaanbod
*golf clap*
And to the people bitching about shipping times, remember that it is your responsibility as a buyer to read your vendor's terms and conditions before entering a transaction
Dutchaanbod has done a more than sufficient job warning his customers of shipping delays, "marked in transit" inconsistencies and tracking disputes that people seem to love to bust his balls over.
"package's can take up to 30 days before it arrive !"
"SHIPPING FROM GERMANY IS VERY SLOW LAST TIME,PACKAGES CAN TAKE UP TO 30 DAYS BEFORE THE ARRIVE
WE SEND THE PACKAGE'S OUT MAX 2/3 DAYS AFTER IT"S MARK IN TRANSIT !!"
"We need to drive over the border and most time there are 100+ package's a days so we are not able to post theme all on 1 day"
"It can take up to 15 days before the tracking get an update after its leave the GERMAN post sorting center"
"Its normal tracing need sometime 12 days before it works."
C'mon guys, If I can find all that shit off his vendor page within 5 minutes at four in the morning, I'm sure you can too.
If you want to be a retard, then by all means, be a retard. But if your behavior begins to jeopardize a valuable MDMA connection for others, then I (as well as Dutchaanbod's many other satisfied customers) will have to politely request that you bring your retardedness elsewhere.
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"YOU DON'T LIKE IT ? DON'T ORDER !"
I was fine with up to 30 days. I waited patiently. No show. No communication. Once he gets back I get a fuck you don't order msg?
It's been what 45 days now since I ordered? I even confirmed with him after it took 9 days for him to put my order in transit.
He said yup it's on it's way. Now here we are month and a half later and people still think he's the bees knees
I have a German friend with lots of German relatives. I'll get a test letter sent out from Castrop-Rauxel Germany and see how many DAYS it takes..
my bet it'll be about a week.
I guess I am spoiled by good vendors that give a shit about their customers :)
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It's all good.
I ordered with plenty of time before New years for that purpose.
Sure I'm pissed. Life goes on.... some communication a few weeks ago would have been better.
I pay someone to accept my letters for me. I payed him a Half Quarter of weed for this package... Guess that's gone.
Good luck to all wanting to order from him again.
I hope he sends me my refund.
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I payed him a Half Quarter of weed
You mean an eighth? ;)
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sure.
around here it's Half quarter. Quarter. Half ounce.
hq q or ho or o...
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Getting Bit together now.. I hope I am not just sitting on it again. Eager to place that order!
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It's all good.
I ordered with plenty of time before New years for that purpose.
Sure I'm pissed. Life goes on.... some communication a few weeks ago would have been better.
I pay someone to accept my letters for me. I payed him a Half Quarter of weed for this package... Guess that's gone.
Good luck to all wanting to order from him again.
I hope he sends me my refund.
How certain are you your buddy didn't just take the order for himself? I had a friend I'd have trusted over just about anyone else. I mean we grew up together like family. Well over 1/4 lb of cyanescens of mine goes missing and i suspected EVERYONE except for this guy because I KNEW he wouldn't have taken them. Fast forward a few years and it comes out that he stole 'em, but at that point he figured it wouldn't be a big deal since a significant period of time had passed.
I know it's not pleasant to think about, but if he knows how much value was in that pack, he very easily could have just said it never showed.
I hope that's not the case, but one way or another, I offer my condolences that you don't have a pack(at least yet) that you ordered so long ago.
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I placed an order with dutch on the 20th of November, from what i understand, my order was not actually sent? ( I am unsure, if im incorrect, please feel free to correct me on this)
While this isnt a big deal itself, i choose to finalize early out of good faith.
I've contacted dutch for the first time since placing my order explaining this to him and have yet to receive a reply.
im hoping he can confirm if my package was sent or not, and if it wasnt, if i'll be receiving my refund or not.
I assume yes because he admitted to his mistake already and dutch seems like an honest person, and im hoping he wont just keep my money without even sending my product.
but then again, i did finalize. All i can do now is hope dutch will be honest and help me out by sending me my coin, or letting me know if i'll receive my package. but ive seen alot of vendors who will just keep coin in a situation like this.
If anyone has anything to add to this it would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first order with dutch, and i trust what people on the forums say about him being a good person, which is why i choose to FE.
But with my coin technically his, i have to still worry if he'll make things right or not.
if someone can confirm rather or not packages from the last 2 weeks of november were sent or not, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
hoping for the best, expecting the worst
capt.sparrow
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Also, when Pf was vending, right before he quit i believe, DeadRa7 received a pack from him to the midwest US in 4 days unless I'm mistaken.
You have a good memory! This is true, I think it was back around late June-July this occurred...the post is weird sometimes!
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I placed an order with dutch on the 20th of November, from what i understand, my order was not actually sent? ( I am unsure, if im incorrect, please feel free to correct me on this)
While this isnt a big deal itself, i choose to finalize early out of good faith.
I've contacted dutch for the first time since placing my order explaining this to him and have yet to receive a reply.
im hoping he can confirm if my package was sent or not, and if it wasnt, if i'll be receiving my refund or not.
I assume yes because he admitted to his mistake already and dutch seems like an honest person, and im hoping he wont just keep my money without even sending my product.
but then again, i did finalize. All i can do now is hope dutch will be honest and help me out by sending me my coin, or letting me know if i'll receive my package. but ive seen alot of vendors who will just keep coin in a situation like this.
If anyone has anything to add to this it would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first order with dutch, and i trust what people on the forums say about him being a good person, which is why i choose to FE.
But with my coin technically his, i have to still worry if he'll make things right or not.
if someone can confirm rather or not packages from the last 2 weeks of november were sent or not, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
hoping for the best, expecting the worst
capt.sparrow
all i can say is HAHAHAHAH DUMBASS!! dont finalize early and you wont have to beg like a crackwhore for your money back.
and like somebody else mentioned isnt anybody else nervous that so many people got other peoples orders??? that means dutch isnt discarding old information which is a big no no. wait till the day he gets picked off every single one of us will probably get hauled off to jail because dutch was to fucking lazy to delete names and addresses!
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I placed an order with dutch on the 20th of November, from what i understand, my order was not actually sent? ( I am unsure, if im incorrect, please feel free to correct me on this)
While this isnt a big deal itself, i choose to finalize early out of good faith.
I've contacted dutch for the first time since placing my order explaining this to him and have yet to receive a reply.
im hoping he can confirm if my package was sent or not, and if it wasnt, if i'll be receiving my refund or not.
I assume yes because he admitted to his mistake already and dutch seems like an honest person, and im hoping he wont just keep my money without even sending my product.
but then again, i did finalize. All i can do now is hope dutch will be honest and help me out by sending me my coin, or letting me know if i'll receive my package. but ive seen alot of vendors who will just keep coin in a situation like this.
If anyone has anything to add to this it would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first order with dutch, and i trust what people on the forums say about him being a good person, which is why i choose to FE.
But with my coin technically his, i have to still worry if he'll make things right or not.
if someone can confirm rather or not packages from the last 2 weeks of november were sent or not, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
hoping for the best, expecting the worst
capt.sparrow
all i can say is HAHAHAHAH DUMBASS!! dont finalize early and you wont have to beg like a crackwhore for your money back.
and like somebody else mentioned isnt anybody else nervous that so many people got other peoples orders??? that means dutch isnt discarding old information which is a big no no. wait till the day he gets picked off every single one of us will probably get hauled off to jail because dutch was to fucking lazy to delete names and addresses!
hey dude, go kill yourself. im not begging. im stating what happened to see what other people say. you need to shut the fuck up and stop being a little hating bitch, there's to fucking many of you, if you cant be helpful and all you can ever do is bitch at other people to make yourself better, your life has no meaning, and the best thing for you to do, is to kill yourself.
get off SR and come back once you have some fucking social skills and learn to quit being such a little bitch.
Did you read dutchaanbod's vendor page? He requests that people do not finalize. Still, that isn't reason to not send you a package. Thus he should either send you a package (better late than never?) or refund your money.
Yes i have, but i must have over looked it, been placing alot or orders lately, and i spent about 2 weeks deciding to order from dutch or not, so im guessing i probably did see it but it slipped my mind. I hope your right, if dutch is able to send it back it'll help show how much he cares about his customers, if not then i guess its my mistake. hopefully he'll be kind enough to send me my coin.
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sure.
around here it's Half quarter. Quarter. Half ounce.
hq q or ho or o...
sry, but i refuse to believe there's a whole community that stupid.
u might as well start calling a quarter a half half.
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I placed an order with dutch on the 20th of November, from what i understand, my order was not actually sent? ( I am unsure, if im incorrect, please feel free to correct me on this)
While this isnt a big deal itself, i choose to finalize early out of good faith.
I've contacted dutch for the first time since placing my order explaining this to him and have yet to receive a reply.
im hoping he can confirm if my package was sent or not, and if it wasnt, if i'll be receiving my refund or not.
I assume yes because he admitted to his mistake already and dutch seems like an honest person, and im hoping he wont just keep my money without even sending my product.
but then again, i did finalize. All i can do now is hope dutch will be honest and help me out by sending me my coin, or letting me know if i'll receive my package. but ive seen alot of vendors who will just keep coin in a situation like this.
If anyone has anything to add to this it would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first order with dutch, and i trust what people on the forums say about him being a good person, which is why i choose to FE.
But with my coin technically his, i have to still worry if he'll make things right or not.
if someone can confirm rather or not packages from the last 2 weeks of november were sent or not, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
hoping for the best, expecting the worst
capt.sparrow
all i can say is HAHAHAHAH DUMBASS!! dont finalize early and you wont have to beg like a crackwhore for your money back.
and like somebody else mentioned isnt anybody else nervous that so many people got other peoples orders??? that means dutch isnt discarding old information which is a big no no. wait till the day he gets picked off every single one of us will probably get hauled off to jail because dutch was to fucking lazy to delete names and addresses!
hey dude, go kill yourself. im not begging. im stating what happened to see what other people say. you need to shut the fuck up and stop being a little hating bitch, there's to fucking many of you, if you cant be helpful and all you can ever do is bitch at other people to make yourself better, your life has no meaning, and the best thing for you to do, is to kill yourself.
get off SR and come back once you have some fucking social skills and learn to quit being such a little bitch.
Did you read dutchaanbod's vendor page? He requests that people do not finalize. Still, that isn't reason to not send you a package. Thus he should either send you a package (better late than never?) or refund your money.
Yes i have, but i must have over looked it, been placing alot or orders lately, and i spent about 2 weeks deciding to order from dutch or not, so im guessing i probably did see it but it slipped my mind. I hope your right, if dutch is able to send it back it'll help show how much he cares about his customers, if not then i guess its my mistake. hopefully he'll be kind enough to send me my coin.
+ 1
those people are just plain stupid. hope all turns out well for you bud!
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sure.
around here it's Half quarter. Quarter. Half ounce.
hq q or ho or o...
sry, but i refuse to believe there's a whole community that stupid.
u might as well start calling a quarter a half half.
hahah im sorry but this comment made me laugh... no offense to the original poster but ive never heard anyone call it a half quarter before... its always just been an 1/8
On topic though I think dutch will get everything in order again before he posts up listings so I might be placing an order with him. We will see how things pan out though.
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sry, but i refuse to believe there's a whole community that stupid.
u might as well start calling a quarter a half half.
LOL... This is funny.
Who gives a fuck what it's called? I am stupid because I go by what a bag has been called since I was 13 years old..
17 years of buying dope and it's always been short forms... HQ or Q and so on. We are Canadian you must be American.
Still waiting on my refund from Dutchanbod. I am wondering about what it says on his profile.. They don't do reships.
But I was never sent anything. How can you reship something that was never sent?
How certain are you your buddy didn't just take the order for himself?
I pay dude. He gives me his key to his mailbox, not sure how he would steal my shit if I am the one checking the mail everyday.
Dutch already admitted to sending out his previous block of orders twice. So my order was never sent. SR gave me 50% because my extension ran out and I wasn't around at the time to extend further.
Would appreciate the other 50% back seeing he admitted to screwing up. sucks. All the sad none rolling people :P
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I placed an order with dutch on the 20th of November, from what i understand, my order was not actually sent? ( I am unsure, if im incorrect, please feel free to correct me on this)
While this isnt a big deal itself, i choose to finalize early out of good faith.
I've contacted dutch for the first time since placing my order explaining this to him and have yet to receive a reply.
im hoping he can confirm if my package was sent or not, and if it wasnt, if i'll be receiving my refund or not.
I assume yes because he admitted to his mistake already and dutch seems like an honest person, and im hoping he wont just keep my money without even sending my product.
but then again, i did finalize. All i can do now is hope dutch will be honest and help me out by sending me my coin, or letting me know if i'll receive my package. but ive seen alot of vendors who will just keep coin in a situation like this.
If anyone has anything to add to this it would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first order with dutch, and i trust what people on the forums say about him being a good person, which is why i choose to FE.
But with my coin technically his, i have to still worry if he'll make things right or not.
if someone can confirm rather or not packages from the last 2 weeks of november were sent or not, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
hoping for the best, expecting the worst
capt.sparrow
I am in the same boat. I had a 100g order that I accidently finalized. (Fucking mother fucking android based tor) Anyways. I contacted dutch and he is going to refund me when he puts listing back up. This is because, for we the people who finalized in good faith or otherwise, are no longer on his open order sheet and the only way he can cross reference that we actually ordered is going through his listing history. (Which he can only do after orders are up) After seeing all the feedback of the full refunds I dont see why our orders should be any different. But Certainly escrow is for our protection which I now strongly see. and I have 10K spent. I just always finalized when I was working with people I trusted. I believe in getting paid. And accidents happen *Cough
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Anyways, I recall before he took his listings down he had at least 5 pages of feedback from 100g packs-at exactly $1,537 per pack and at 10 feedbacks per page this is over $76,000 in around two and a half months of vending. This doesn't include the many, many 1-50g packs that went out, which I can't even ballpark as I didn't pay attention to those listings as much.
Conclusion? I'd bet that he's probably sitting on a gold mine of BTC which I'm sure can be laborious to safely withdraw that much and I'm sure vending on here can consume a tremendous amount of time. Vendors come and go, another vendor will replace Dutch in due time if he's really done, however one can only help he's going to return and continue sending his beautiful MDMA all over the world.
Is it possible he turned "Scammer"? Sure, it's always a risk we take here but with the amount of $ he makes running his business, I'm sure scamming his customers are on the bottom end of his priorities (we can only hope).
Even with all the negative feedback and bitching, he's still I'm sure in the top 3% with a 98.3% rating which should be an easy indicator of how successful he's been when he had active listings.
I'm just stating carefully thought out facts/opinions here, anything is possible but if he does come back I bet he will settle with those who have yet to receive a resolution-he's good people and I don't believe he's out to 'get' anybody.
Hope this helps people better understand the bigger picture of what's possibly going on here. Much love to you all, I hope your packages come in fast and heavy.
Does SR display feedback from every order? I remember dutch posting that he was sending out 100+ packages every day
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when comes DUTCHAANBOD back? i cant await it :)
has anyone from DE experience with him?
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BTC ready for you dutch! I anxiously await your return, hurry I'm running out of xannies lol
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I placed an order with dutch on the 20th of November, from what i understand, my order was not actually sent? ( I am unsure, if im incorrect, please feel free to correct me on this)
While this isnt a big deal itself, i choose to finalize early out of good faith.
I've contacted dutch for the first time since placing my order explaining this to him and have yet to receive a reply.
im hoping he can confirm if my package was sent or not, and if it wasnt, if i'll be receiving my refund or not.
I assume yes because he admitted to his mistake already and dutch seems like an honest person, and im hoping he wont just keep my money without even sending my product.
but then again, i did finalize. All i can do now is hope dutch will be honest and help me out by sending me my coin, or letting me know if i'll receive my package. but ive seen alot of vendors who will just keep coin in a situation like this.
If anyone has anything to add to this it would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first order with dutch, and i trust what people on the forums say about him being a good person, which is why i choose to FE.
But with my coin technically his, i have to still worry if he'll make things right or not.
if someone can confirm rather or not packages from the last 2 weeks of november were sent or not, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
hoping for the best, expecting the worst
capt.sparrow
please update when you get information as i am in a similar predicament. need to know if ALL orders before dec 1st went out
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when comes DUTCHAANBOD back? i cant await it :)
has anyone from DE experience with him?
what is de?
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when comes DUTCHAANBOD back? i cant await it :)
has anyone from DE experience with him?
what is de?
Germany
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I placed an order with dutch on the 20th of November, from what i understand, my order was not actually sent? ( I am unsure, if im incorrect, please feel free to correct me on this)
While this isnt a big deal itself, i choose to finalize early out of good faith.
I've contacted dutch for the first time since placing my order explaining this to him and have yet to receive a reply.
im hoping he can confirm if my package was sent or not, and if it wasnt, if i'll be receiving my refund or not.
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I assume yes because he admitted to his mistake already and dutch seems like an honest person, and im hoping he wont just keep my money without even sending my product.
but then again, i did finalize. All i can do now is hope dutch will be honest and help me out by sending me my coin, or letting me know if i'll receive my package. but ive seen alot of vendors who will just keep coin in a situation like this.
If anyone has anything to add to this it would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first order with dutch, and i trust what people on the forums say about him being a good person, which is why i choose to FE.
But with my coin technically his, i have to still worry if he'll make things right or not.
if someone can confirm rather or not packages from the last 2 weeks of november were sent or not, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
hoping for the best, expecting the worst
capt.sparrow
please update when you get information as i am in a similar predicament. need to know if ALL orders before dec 1st went out
I'm pretty sure the orders 11/20 and later where the ones that actually messed up. Dutch hasn't released alot of info about it really he's just chosen to give out refunds. Mine was marked 11/30 so it's 39 days today. I don't have hopes that it's coming it was likely sent to someone else. I also finalized and I happened to log in right as dutch came back and he answered me right away saying to message him when listing are back up because he can't check until then for orders already finalized. I just need my refund so I can reorder already the people are getting restless.
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I placed an order with dutch on the 20th of November, from what i understand, my order was not actually sent? ( I am unsure, if im incorrect, please feel free to correct me on this)
While this isnt a big deal itself, i choose to finalize early out of good faith.
I've contacted dutch for the first time since placing my order explaining this to him and have yet to receive a reply.
im hoping he can confirm if my package was sent or not, and if it wasnt, if i'll be receiving my refund or not.
I assume yes because he admitted to his mistake already and dutch seems like an honest person, and im hoping he wont just keep my money without even sending my product.
but then again, i did finalize. All i can do now is hope dutch will be honest and help me out by sending me my coin, or letting me know if i'll receive my package. but ive seen alot of vendors who will just keep coin in a situation like this.
If anyone has anything to add to this it would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first order with dutch, and i trust what people on the forums say about him being a good person, which is why i choose to FE.
But with my coin technically his, i have to still worry if he'll make things right or not.
if someone can confirm rather or not packages from the last 2 weeks of november were sent or not, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
hoping for the best, expecting the worst
capt.sparrow
I am in the same boat. I had a 100g order that I accidently finalized. (Fucking mother fucking android based tor) Anyways. I contacted dutch and he is going to refund me when he puts listing back up. This is because, for we the people who finalized in good faith or otherwise, are no longer on his open order sheet and the only way he can cross reference that we actually ordered is going through his listing history. (Which he can only do after orders are up) After seeing all the feedback of the full refunds I dont see why our orders should be any different. But Certainly escrow is for our protection which I now strongly see. and I have 10K spent. I just always finalized when I was working with people I trusted. I believe in getting paid. And accidents happen *Cough
thanks a lot, that really helps settle my nerves. 200 bucks isn't a big deal, but losing any money is always unfortunate.
anxiously awaiting for dutch to get his listing back up to place a new order.
Will keep everyone updated
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Hi all
i have decide to only put the 50gr and 100gr listing back up..
That are the most honest buyers everyone is shitting and screaming so say thnq to theme...
All orders before 30/11/2011 are send out it where only the orders after that that where send out wrong,,
Listing will be back up Friday.....
Dutchaanbod
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Hi all
i have decide to only put the 50gr and 100gr listing back up..
That are the most honest buyers everyone is shitting and screaming so say thnq to theme...
All orders before 30/11/2011 are send out it where only the orders after that that where send out wrong,,
Listing will be back up Friday.....
Dutchaanbod
will u be doing better refund rate? since its automatic tracking?
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FUCK! Seriously? I've purchased from you before, < 50g, untracked, NO problems!
I have a 0% refund rate and I've been here for over 18 months. Will you even consider still working with me?
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Damn Dutch I hope you reconsider and put a smaller listing for 10 or 20g up. 50g is a pretty high wall to get over for many of us that are just buying for personal use and not dealing.
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Damn.... i wait 2 weeks that the listings come back so that i can order 30g and now do you make only 50 and 100g :(
Please come back with 10g listings also, so that i can order 3x10g as always...
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Hi all
i have decide to only put the 50gr and 100gr listing back up..
That are the most honest buyers everyone is shitting and screaming so say thnq to theme...
All orders before 30/11/2011 are send out it where only the orders after that that where send out wrong,,
Listing will be back up Friday.....
Dutchaanbod
That's not a problem for me because i only order 100g and i never had problem.
I think problem is not honesty of customer but it's just that 50 and 100g order have tracker!
Maybe you can send 10g with tracker you will have less problems :)
Skunk
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Hey Dutch, while I understand wanting to avoid too much scamming, what about only working with previous customers who have not scammed you for at least the 10 gram listing? It's not feasible for many of us "little guys" to get the funds together to order 50 grams at once and I'd really hate to go somewhere else as your prices and quality don't exist together on SR anywhere else I've found. Please consider it :)
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Damn, sucks for the regular guy. Though all these little orders have to drive you nuts, dutch. I can imagine you get a crazy amount of orders. I eagerly await your return so I can give you my bit, I will adjust.
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dutchaanbod, please put up a 250g listing.
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This is great news! Hopefully this will increase shipping and processing times. I'm very excited to see dutch back, and so is my wallet. If I had to guess I would say that this move is driven more from the fact that dealing with all those small orders is too much work for not enough reward.
In Dutch's own words: "YOU DON'T LIKE IT ? DON'T ORDER !"
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You read the profile. You agree to the terms you order.
You wait patiently for a refund now.
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I think that change is the only sensible option. Scammers are rampant. High ticket price less dirt. And not as hectic. Cant wait to reorder.
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This change makes a lot of sense. I know it sucks if you're one of the guys that only needs 10g but all of the drama caused by those orders (even if it is only 20% of them) has the potential to fuck things up for those of us ordering 50g+.
I was only of those guys that only needed like 10g or maybe 20g as a lifetime supply but I purchased 50g last time figuring that eventually friends would buy the excess from me. As it turns out my friends bought up just about everything I got and fast and now I need to buy more just to have my personal supply again. So fuck it I'll just order 100g. Looking forward to ordering on Friday!
if I bought 10g and i get caught then would not much happens
but
if I bought 50g or 100g and i get caught then i go into the prison for 3-10 years
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i hope dutch eventually puts back up a 10g...or im gonna be stuck saving for a long time
and even then i dont want 50g. i only get 10g to show my friends a good time lol
id probably consider a 25g order if it was near 425$ but idk now :l
i dont want to go with someone else because everyone is doing FE or fuck off.
might have to go with oldamsterdam though its alot more expensive and comes from a higher risk country.
gaah i just want dutch :(
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Why not keep 10g orders but make everything trackable? Or at the very least only sell to people with faultless stats.
Let's be absolutely clear about this, it's Dutchaanbods incompetent co-workers that have made a massive screw up. which ultimately, Dutchaanbod himself is 100% accountable for.
Very unreasonable decision, especially when only a day or two earlier 'nothing will change'
Disappointing.
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How much is the 50g listing? I will need to hit the pawn shop, but I know it will be worth it and won't question his business... but yeah.. How much is the 50g listing?
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Great news! This should ensure Dutch will be here for a longggg time, that's awesome news to hear!
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How much is the 50g listing? I will need to hit the pawn shop, but I know it will be worth it and won't question his business... but yeah.. How much is the 50g listing?
The price is (currently) listed on the right side of his vendor page: http://oracleforumvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/oracleforum/user/8cfa29972d
He doesn't currently have a 50g option listed but instead asked people that wanted 50g to order qty 5 of the 10g. That's $183.94*5=$919.70. Add to that somewhere between 2-3 bitcoins for the shipping.
WTF is up with that link bro? Get outta here with that! -1 for you!
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hi every one.we have done bulk with hm NEVER EVEN THOUGHT about testing it cuz we looked on her and ever one said it was great
so we placed an order 250grams we got are molly liked it had fun sold all of it made some $.its been more then 30 days..BUT NOW SOME ONE
that had goten most of it had it testd and came BACK as BK-MDMA?????? wtf..can some one ELSE please test there molly for us.so we can know for sure
as to wht it is..iam not hating on hm but confused as to wht happend??whos lien to me MY GUY OR DUTCHAANBOD??people still liked it but now feel like they paid to much.
so BTM line we just want some one to test it PLEASE.so we can all know..
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Dutch, another possibility would be to offer a smaller qty like 20 or 25g with tracking but no refund. So you don't have to worry about getting scammed, and the risk would be all on the buyer, who could verify the shipment was sent with the tracking. Or even raise the price a bit on the 10 or 20g to make up for your potential losses.
If buyers don't want to take the risk, they don't have to buy.
I can understand why you want to stick with higher quantities for a lot of reasons, but I really hope you can find a solution for those of us who aren't dealers and can't throw $1000 at a shipment. Even something in the $300-500 range would be reasonable as we could split that with friends.
Anyway, you've been a great vendor regardless and I'm glad I got one order delivered no matter what happens going forward.
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Please reconsider Dutch. I was eagerly waiting your come back and have $300-$600 to hand over if you'd have a listing that would satisfy it.
If you tap into the market of people willing to drop a few hundred dollars you'll open up a lot more options for yourself. You'll appeal to those who are just looking to supply themselves and their friends with MDMA, which I'd assume is most of the business on this site. Not everyone comes on here to drop nearly a grand on one transaction to peddle off grams. But you know what will move whatever amount of product you have and I'd probably do the same if people are still buying fast enough.
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ive been following db for over two months reading almost every comment on every listing nightly and can honestly say that if i saw 5 comments out of over a thousand that said it never came then im probably over estimating by a couple! what im trying to say is that for months almost 99% of his orders have arrived safely and hes been paid on every single one of them. it wasnt until this past month that all the no shows started rolling in due to his own carelesness he admitted. therefore to say hes no longer offering under 50g listings because of scammers i think is complete bullshit on his end. especially when he came on a couple of days ago and said everything would be listed again with no changes. Hey db dont punish everybody for your own fuckup!!
i dont doubt hes gona end up like another tony76 since he makes you finalize after tracking is delivered. i hope you dumbfucks lose all your money!
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just a UPDATE after reading some page's....
We are not able to put also a tracking on -50gr orders it will be to much work for now don forget we also have to pm everyone there tracking number...
We will begin with the 50gr+ listing maybe we add later other listings for lower amounts but not fast so be patient and take a look sometime on our page ( DON PM ME ABOUT IT )
Greats DA
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Hey Dutch, thanks for the update. How much will the 50g packs cost?
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His 100g listing was around 1,500. If you cut that in half it would make the 50g listing only 750. I am hoping he keeps the price real low for the 50g since there will be no 10 or 20g listings.
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Has he hinted at when he will be putting up the new listings? Last thing I heard was January 2nd / 3rd but that was what he said in mid-December.
For those of you complaining about him not doing small orders because he has good prices... just remember Dutch has to do what's best for him. Also the savings that buyers will see from low prices are more substantial to large-quantity buyers than low-quantity buyers.
We can't all have our cake and eat it too. When vendors get overwhelmed with orders they start to delay send-out of packages and sometimes go rogue. Let's not push our luck and just be happy we have a good vendor on SR.
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Has he hinted at when he will be putting up the new listings? Last thing I heard was January 2nd / 3rd but that was what he said in mid-December.
For those of you complaining about him not doing small orders because he has good prices... just remember Dutch has to do what's best for him. Also the savings that buyers will see from low prices are more substantial to large-quantity buyers than low-quantity buyers.
We can't all have our cake and eat it too. When vendors get overwhelmed with orders they start to delay send-out of packages and sometimes go rogue. Let's not push our luck and just be happy we have a good vendor on SR.
He said listing will be up tomorrow (friday)
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just a UPDATE after reading some page's....
We are not able to put also a tracking on -50gr orders it will be to much work for now don forget we also have to pm everyone there tracking number...
We will begin with the 50gr+ listing maybe we add later other listings for lower amounts but not fast so be patient and take a look sometime on our page ( DON PM ME ABOUT IT )
Greats DA
Thanks for considering this Dutch, I hope people aren't bugging you too much about it via PM because it'll only make you less likely to do it, I imagine. I will faithfully be checking your page :)
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just a UPDATE after reading some page's....
We are not able to put also a tracking on -50gr orders it will be to much work for now don forget we also have to pm everyone there tracking number...
We will begin with the 50gr+ listing maybe we add later other listings for lower amounts but not fast so be patient and take a look sometime on our page ( DON PM ME ABOUT IT )
Greats DA
Dutch, first I want to thank you for reading and listening to your customers concerns on the forum.
Now I want to say, I respect your decision to only offer 50g and 100g. It is your choice what you do with your business, and if it makes sense to you, that's okay.
With that said, I am asking you to discount your 50g orders just like you discount your 100g orders. You need to meet us in the middle and since your lowest quantity is higher, you should do good business by lowering that price a little bit and make us pay a little bit of a lower rate.
Peace
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edit: i realize i didn't say what i meant in the right way here and may even sound a little greedy/whiney here- look for my next 2 posts for clarification.
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You people are insane. Meet us in the middle? This isn't a fucking walmart where dutch can put a goddamn Craigslist ad up for more help. His prices are already unbelievably low, like laughably low. So if you want 10g go to any of the other vendors, there are plenty to go around. It's hard fucking work being a vendor, dealing with tor, dealing with people trying to scam, and I'm very sure that dutch is doing what maximizes both his profit AND sanity.
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You people are insane. Meet us in the middle? This isn't a fucking walmart where dutch can put a goddamn Craigslist ad up for more help. His prices are already unbelievably low, like laughably low. So if you want 10g go to any of the other vendors, there are plenty to go around. It's hard fucking work being a vendor, dealing with tor, dealing with people trying to scam, and I'm very sure that dutch is doing what maximizes both his profit AND sanity.
You are completely right. Dutch has the best prices on the road and it is hard to ask much more from him. But your response has cleared up to me what i should have said in the first place. What i meant to suggest is that dutch make it cost less per gram for 50 grams than it costs per gram for 10 gram orders in the same way that it cost less per gram for 10 gram orders than for 5gram orders and so on. Per dutches current pricing model, there is a little bit more of an incentive to buy more for each new pricing bracket you enter.
I do not mean to come off in a spoiled and complainy manner and I apologize for having conveyed my thoughts as such. Personally it doesn't bother me whether i pay a few more. On dutch's end, maybe my suggestion will work out better though... people seeing that 50g is a bargain will stop bitching about no more 10g and save up and just buy the 50g because it has a discount off the 10g price meaning dutch has more volume in sales. You know... like 13.30 btc/g instead of 13.50btc/g. Again, this is only a marketing suggestion for dutch.... not a complainy wahhhh why are your already cheap drugs not cheaper king of thing.
Above all, I highly respect whatever dutch does... he is no matter what an asset to this community.
Cheers guys
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ive been following db for over two months reading almost every comment on every listing nightly and can honestly say that if i saw 5 comments out of over a thousand that said it never came then im probably over estimating by a couple! what im trying to say is that for months almost 99% of his orders have arrived safely and hes been paid on every single one of them. it wasnt until this past month that all the no shows started rolling in due to his own carelesness he admitted. therefore to say hes no longer offering under 50g listings because of scammers i think is complete bullshit on his end. especially when he came on a couple of days ago and said everything would be listed again with no changes. Hey db dont punish everybody for your own fuckup!!
i dont doubt hes gona end up like another tony76 since he makes you finalize after tracking is delivered. i hope you dumbfucks lose all your money!
No surprise your karma is +1/-9. How the fuck do you know what percentage of his customers claim to have not received their order? Do you think that every person that does or doesn't receive their order posts up that information on this thread? If he was trying to scam people why the fuck would he pull the listings for the untracked packages? That makes zero sense. Do you have any idea how much money he has voluntarily refunded since his return? Probably more than your Mom after prostituting herself for a whole year.
you cant be that stupid are you you chimp? why would everybody come on here in this thread and post there history with db? you really are dumber than a chimp!! I said ive read every comment on every transaction over the last 2 months obviously i meant on silk you pollock! smmfh some people are just to stupid to do drugs!!
and on those comments people wouldnt say 5/5 arrived safe will buy again if there shit never came right??? you understand now or do you need a pic?? if there shit never came they would say there shit didnt come which brings me back to my origional comment claiming bullshit on his end saying because probably 2695 out of 2700 transactions have arrived and hes been paid on! DUHHH!!
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People used to buy 50g in 10g increments all the time. Why would he lower the price now? Doesn't make sense.
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People used to buy 50g in 10g increments all the time. Why would he lower the price now? Doesn't make sense.
This is true. My rationale when I posted this was that since he isn't offering 10g anymore, maybe he would please those who usually buy less than 50g by offering a little bit of a discount. You know, to make them say, " gosh I don't want to buy twice or even 5 times as much but at least I get it at a little bit of a lower rate now!"
Anyhow, I'm glad to see a lot of you guys backing dutch and defending his prices and his way of business. So many people on here can be so unappreciative of the opportunity to deal with a person like dutch. Honestly, hearing you guys shout back for dutch about what I said about lowering the prices sort of puts things in perspective for me. There is definitely a problem when Wonka invites you to his Chocolate factory of all places and you tell him his candy isn't sweet enough (yeah, Dutch's product and price is definitely worth being compared to Wonka's chocolate factory :D )
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if you could do a 10 gram listing that would be stellar. i don't plan on buying a lower amount than that. Would hate to see only 50-100 :(
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yea do 10 50 and 100 fuck the 5 and 1 gram listings. 50 is to much for 90% of the people here. only the stupid ones that look foward to going to jail order 50+ amounts. im sure the 10 g listings will be back shortly because the drop off in buisness will just kill him.
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Well, crap. My order had auto-finalized a while back in late November, shipped out Nov 30 (I am pretty new to this). However, I trusted Dutch's order would come, because everyone always said "no matter what, it will come" even after people waiting 40 days, they would suddenly get their order. I figured it was just slow due to German post as usual and the holidays compounding it.
Well, I had no internet access for all of the last month, and finally get back on to see that ... my order was shipped to someone else. Not only that, but it looks like I missed the bus when it comes to getting a refund/another order going because 1) my order auto finalized and 2) Dutch is only going to be doing 50g orders.
Well I sure got fucked up the ass on this one. Sigh.
I messaged him but I don't expect any resolution on this. My fault for not understanding auto-finalize enough, and just trusting the general populace. "Never fear, it will get there"
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Well I was waiting for dutch to come back so I can order 10g. That's a SHITTTLOAD for most people who aren't big dealers. I'm loyal to dutch, and I'd pay more to stick with him, but if he ignores everything under 50g then I'll have to pay extra AND go elsewhere. Not cool, but business is business.
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It's Friday! ;D
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It's Friday! ;D
HELL YEA!! :)
Where you at DUTCH?
50g and over = OK
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All orders before 30/11/2011 are send out it where only the orders after that that where send out wrong,,
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Hi
Anybody can explain me this phrase?
Orders before 30/11/2012 sent to the correct address?
And orders after 30/11/2012 sent to wrong address, right?
Or I did incorrectly translated it?
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Does anyone know how much shipping costs on the 100g pack? Cheers
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You people are insane. Meet us in the middle? This isn't a fucking walmart where dutch can put a goddamn Craigslist ad up for more help. His prices are already unbelievably low, like laughably low. So if you want 10g go to any of the other vendors, there are plenty to go around. It's hard fucking work being a vendor, dealing with tor, dealing with people trying to scam, and I'm very sure that dutch is doing what maximizes both his profit AND sanity.
This guy is making some sense!
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Well looks like it won't be today when listings go up? I got my BTC all poised to jump in when those postings go back up.
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As do I.. Smoke bowl.. refresh page.. smoke bowl.. refresh page..
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I believe there is quite a few people with the BTC ready for 50/100g orders. Myself included. Hopefully they are posted reaaalll soon.
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As do I.. Smoke bowl.. refresh page.. smoke bowl.. refresh page..
Story.of.my.life.
It's all part of "the game" :-/
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I believe there is quite a few people with the BTC ready for 50/100g orders. Myself included. Hopefully they are posted reaaalll soon.
well that sucks.. your about to start loosing money every hour from now on ..lol the price of btc is dropping after raising for the past 3 days.. prolly will go back to 13.30
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I think he might sell out before the listings even go up ;D
Or maybe its a game to see who can stay awake the longest trolling his profile page ;D
Awaiting the Return of "The Greats Dutchaanbod" ;D
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I believe there is quite a few people with the BTC ready for 50/100g orders. Myself included. Hopefully they are posted reaaalll soon.
well that sucks.. your about to start loosing money every hour from now on ..lol the price of btc is dropping after raising for the past 3 days.. prolly will go back to 13.30
I try and keep most of my money in cash until it is time to buy for this reason. It takes longer to make a transaction (buy BTC, wait for BTC to move to SR which is a variable amount of time) but BTC is so damn volatile. Especially since it just had a run-up I didn't want to trade in for BTC before the listings were actually active.
Looks like it is at 14.24 right now though so right now things are still pretty good.
BTC is nothing to be scared of just think of where it was 6 months ago (wish i bought a crap ton when they where $5 each damnit) even with the ups and downs it is still a very solid investment i just made a few hundred bucks in the last week for my coins just sitting there please let me know of another place to put my money that will net me those kind of returns other than the stock market because we know thats bullshit. People need to buy buy buy and sell coins it only helps the market :)
I <3 100g listing 8)
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I dont get a refund until orders are back so I hope the turn around is in time for me to be able to reorder before people blow him up.
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well that sucks.. your about to start loosing money every hour from now on ..lol the price of btc is dropping after raising for the past 3 days.. prolly will go back to 13.30
I try and keep most of my money in cash until it is time to buy for this reason. It takes longer to make a transaction (buy BTC, wait for BTC to move to SR which is a variable amount of time) but BTC is so damn volatile. Especially since it just had a run-up I didn't want to trade in for BTC before the listings were actually active.
Looks like it is at 14.24 right now though so right now things are still pretty good.
BTC is nothing to be scared of just think of where it was 6 months ago (wish i bought a crap ton when they where $5 each damnit) even with the ups and downs it is still a very solid investment i just made a few hundred bucks in the last week for my coins just sitting there please let me know of another place to put my money that will net me those kind of returns other than the stock market because we know thats bullshit. People need to buy buy buy and sell coins it only helps the market :)
I <3 100g listing 8)
Agreed. Bitcoin is a growing market no doubt! Usually I only purchase my BTC right before I plan on placing an order, but I decided to get 120+ Bitcoins early on Monday when the exchange rate was between 13.3-13.6. This indeed has turned into a great investment! Even if the value of bitcoin drops back to 13+ I do not see this as much of a loss.
As of lately buying 10%+ over the dollar value needed for a purchase(after exchange fees) ahead of time is a decent idea in my opinion. With the bitcoin value on the rise recently it's nice to see my exchange fees being mathematically waived with a little interest earned on my end. Of course this will not always be true, but that extra 10% is a good safety net if the value does eventually drop. It's all in the risk!
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was last seen: 1 day ago
:( nooooooooooooo
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Where are you Dutchyyy? ???
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still waiting on my refund. :(
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still waiting on my refund. :(
Same here 1500 =[
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Hmmm I think I might just place an order with another vendor at this point. First it's Jan 2nd, then Jan 10th/11th, and it goes on. Time is money for me, although I'm sure you guy will be satisfied once his listings go up.
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^ ouch. That sucks... Hoping this gets resolved soon for everyone.
I understand fuck ups happen. But not letting anyone know anything until 30+ days later is very unprofessional
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Yeah.. I spent extra money and higher fees to get all my btc in time.. now i sit with my thumb up my ass.. I hope we see some listings soon!
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I hope so too. Need this money or I need product. Making promises to people I cant keep about ship times. Loosing customers. He will be back soon im sure just a little waiting game. probably ensuring the shipping department is ready to go
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was last seen: 2 days ago
:( fuck me runnin'...BTC Ready-LET'S GET TO WORK!!!!!!
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Hmmm I think I might just place an order with another vendor at this point. First it's Jan 2nd, then Jan 10th/11th, and it goes on. Time is money for me, although I'm sure you guy will be satisfied once his listings go up.
Yeah for sure. My advice is to buy from another guy until dutch gets back... Time is worth more than the difference in my opinion.
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yea do 10 50 and 100 fuck the 5 and 1 gram listings. 50 is to much for 90% of the people here. only the stupid ones that look foward to going to jail order 50+ amounts. im sure the 10 g listings will be back shortly because the drop off in buisness will just kill him.
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Actually 10-100 is generally the range between minimum mandatory sentences in most states in the US.
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yea do 10 50 and 100 fuck the 5 and 1 gram listings. 50 is to much for 90% of the people here. only the stupid ones that look foward to going to jail order 50+ amounts. im sure the 10 g listings will be back shortly because the drop off in buisness will just kill him.
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Actually 10-100 is generally the range between minimum mandatory sentences in most states in the US.
Yes, but generally the larger the quantity, the harder it will be to argue it was for personal use.
Most people would be comfortable ordering 10gm MDMA as they could use that in a reasonable amount of time. 50gm on the other hand is a massive amount of MDMA and most people (myself included) wouldn't be comfortable ordering such quantities.
People have been caught with ounces of cocaine before and gotten away with possession. However, I doubt 50gm could ever be deemed as possession only. It's about 400 - 500 doses.
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lets get back to the MAIN topic of this thread and discuss dutch's PRODUCT...the point of this thread is to gain information/advise others based on the seller/product/shipping/packaging ect. for those that are seeking a more philosophical or any sort of other discussion please use the forum and search feature to kindly take your discussion elsewhere.
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If i received it i could tell ya =P i think vendor discussion is still relevant, in my instance and quite a few others. Still out alot of money and time hope dutch is alright.
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If i received it i could tell ya =P i think vendor discussion is still relevant, in my instance and quite a few others. Still out alot of money and time hope dutch is alright.
Yeah it's hard to talk about the quality of a product that hasn't been shipped out for a month or so. All the quality reviews in the world are only so helpful if they might not apply to the upcoming batch.
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Sorry Dutch I cant wait any longer off to the next vendor that wants my coins maybe next TIME :)
I <3 100g listing :)
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CloudSurfer had some very good MDMA and he actually shipped the product :D
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lets get back to the MAIN topic of this thread and discuss dutch's PRODUCT...the point of this thread is to gain information/advise others based on the seller/product/shipping/packaging ect. for those that are seeking a more philosophical or any sort of other discussion please use the forum and search feature to kindly take your discussion elsewhere.
That would be awesome but realistically it isn't going to happen. Your post is soon get lost.
To the appropriate topic though, apparently dutch has had numerous batches of MDMA though that look pretty distinct and yet they've all been pretty potent. I find the MDMA on SR in general to be pretty darn good, but I think the stuff from dutch really is some of the most potent stuff on SR based on my numerous subjective experiences (which doesn't mean much) and the many reagent tests that people say smoke and quickly go to dark purple.
For a good while I considered washing his stuff but now I don't really see a reason to bother. The stuff from dutch obviously uses the sassafras method of synthesis which I don't think has dangerous byproduct like the PMK method or whatever it is.
Yeah i agree Dutch's product is definitely my preference. :)
I've had MDMA from numerous vendors and Dutch's product out shines them all. ST's product is pretty good, but it seems more uppity, less loved up. I dunno..
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lets get back to the MAIN topic of this thread and discuss dutch's PRODUCT...the point of this thread is to gain information/advise others based on the seller/product/shipping/packaging ect. for those that are seeking a more philosophical or any sort of other discussion please use the forum and search feature to kindly take your discussion elsewhere.
That would be awesome but realistically it isn't going to happen. Your post is soon get lost.
To the appropriate topic though, apparently dutch has had numerous batches of MDMA though that look pretty distinct and yet they've all been pretty potent. I find the MDMA on SR in general to be pretty darn good, but I think the stuff from dutch really is some of the most potent stuff on SR based on my numerous subjective experiences (which doesn't mean much) and the many reagent tests that people say smoke and quickly go to dark purple.
For a good while I considered washing his stuff but now I don't really see a reason to bother. The stuff from dutch obviously uses the sassafras method of synthesis which I don't think has dangerous byproduct like the PMK method or whatever it is.
Yeah i agree Dutch's product is definitely my preference. :)
I've had MDMA from numerous vendors and Dutch's product out shines them all. ST's product is pretty good, but it seems more uppity, less loved up. I dunno..
I've tried a few vendors and they are very, very similar. Slight colour differences, but other than that the effects have been the same.
I think perhaps you were just in a different state of mind with different batches. Your mood before you take MDMA does alter the experience.
All the large MDMA vendors have fantastic product and are well priced. I use Dutchaanbod because the prices are lowest and I've had only flawless transactions with him so far.
However, I will have to use another vendor until he is back...
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I have had similar mdma from MANY diff vendors.. but who has the goods for same/similar price????
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I've tried a few vendors and they are very, very similar. Slight colour differences, but other than that the effects have been the same.
I think perhaps you were just in a different state of mind with different batches. Your mood before you take MDMA does alter the experience.
I'm very aware of set and setting and trust me when I say I've used many vendor's products(including the two I've mentioned) in a plethora of different circumstances. However, many times have I used them in similar or even nearly identical sets of set and setting(pun intended).
For an example of an atypical experience, on new years eve I personally consumed over the course of the night: ~ 500mg of MDMA(equal parts from DA and ST in each cap), ~200mg racemic ketamine, 2 hits of LSD from Tony76, ~1g of VERY high quality cocaine, ~500mg Mephedrone(UC from Lim), copious amounts of bud, a couple methy bombs(E pills), and a few drinks at the bars. And hit the fucking town. DAMN was I the life of the town(and the party I went to!)!
For a more typical experience I'll consume 3 caps of MDMA at 70mg each at set intervals while spending time with my fiance in a place I'm very comfortable with in a stable living environment with complimentary audio accompaniment and small quantities of ganja to chill out if needed.
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For an example of an atypical experience, on new years eve I personally consumed over the course of the night: ~ 500mg of MDMA(equal parts from DA and ST in each cap), ~200mg racemic ketamine, 2 hits of LSD from Tony76, ~1g of VERY high quality cocaine, ~500mg Mephedrone(UC from Lim), copious amounts of bud, a couple methy bombs(E pills), and a few drinks at the bars. And hit the fucking town. DAMN was I the life of the town(and the party I went to!)!
Holy shit I bet you felt like shit the next day-sounds like an awesome time though...I bet the 'sid and K were pretty trippy together, especially if you fell into a hole!
Anyways, well here we all are-sitting here, BTC ready and wondering 'where the hell is dutch?' It's now been 4 days since he's logged in, after he came back from almost a 10 day disappearance, refunded his customers and now is gone again? Shit, I hope he's okay...
Who else is everybody else using? I've been waiting since November to place an order and now I cannot wait anymore-either I need to pull my BTC or order from another vendor. I ordered from another vendor in Canada and got sold inferior product which destroyed my stats (25% refund rate, $10k spent) and now I'm at a loss on what to do.
Any advice will be useful, I'll keep searching the listings myself but it would be nice to find an alternative in the meantime.
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Refunded his customers? He refunded some of his customers.
Still waiting on mine looks like a good handful of others are waiting too.
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i figure since its gonna take atleast 3 weeks to get to me i mine as well wait a few more days... right?? And the next cheapest vendor would be frankmathews but he doesnt ship to USA :'(
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I'm so SICK of people posting about shipping methods.
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Edit your post ASAP abear1991...see message above this one!!!
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i figure since its gonna take atleast 3 weeks to get to me i mine as well wait a few more days... right?? And the next cheapest vendor would be frankmathews but he doesnt ship to USA :'(
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I have removed your comments re shipping methods, do not post that information on the forums!
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Another story of a vendor making tons of money then not caring anymore? I hope not, I've wanted to order from dutch for a while :(
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I have had similar mdma from MANY diff vendors.. but who has the goods for same/similar price????
Foxbelle isn't too far off in price and is getting good reviews, FE freaks me out though.
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is this guy all done?
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You're telling people to be safe... then putting the vendors stealth techniques out there for everyone to see. See the irony?
You should edit that part out of your post.
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^ yeah that idiot's comment got deleted, so you might wanna erase that quote since you're the only one giving anything away at this point...so many braindead people on here
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I've tried a few vendors and they are very, very similar. Slight colour differences, but other than that the effects have been the same.
I think perhaps you were just in a different state of mind with different batches. Your mood before you take MDMA does alter the experience.
All the large MDMA vendors have fantastic product and are well priced. I use Dutchaanbod because the prices are lowest and I've had only flawless transactions with him so far.
However, I will have to use another vendor until he is back...
I have ordered from several MDMA vendors and re-sell to my customer base. I got a batch from Dutchaanbod back in November and there is a consensus among my customers that Dutch's was the best. Some other people I know tried some from SuperTrips and said that was the best. So the quality of their product is generally well-proven.
To be fair though I haven't tried every vendor on SR and I doubt there is anyone on here that has tried them all, and vendors often have different quality for different batches, etc.
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So now that Dutch is gone, whos got the best bang for your buck for re-sell? OA can get as low as ~20USD/g. Anyone else?
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Ok Dutch..... Where are you? Gotta get that 100g order in
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LOL
That would be like what 200 million US worth of cocaine?
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So now that Dutch is gone, whos got the best bang for your buck for re-sell? OA can get as low as ~20USD/g. Anyone else?
Whats OA?
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So now that Dutch is gone, whos got the best bang for your buck for re-sell? OA can get as low as ~20USD/g. Anyone else?
Symbiosis does an ounce for 675, which comes out to be ~24USD/gram. Plus he's from the UK, so importation risks aren't as heavy and shipping times are much faster.
Unfortunately he requires FE for international customers, which seems to be the unfortunate trend right now.
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So now that Dutch is gone, whos got the best bang for your buck for re-sell? OA can get as low as ~20USD/g. Anyone else?
Whats OA?
Old Amsterdam
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Got my refund, guess I can wait a little bit for a potential restock...
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I finalized early out of good faith, contacted DA and he said he says on his page not to FE, which he does not, all he says it its not required.
he has since not replied to me, and i doubt he will.
regardless of this, i highly doubt im getting my money back.
I will not say DA is a scammer, but he isn't doing whats right and because of this he's lost myself as well as other i'm sure as customers.
Hopefully he'll do whats right but i highly doubt it. Losing 200 isn't to big a deal, but i need a vendor whos reliable and will do whats right, regardless of the circumstances, and will always go out of their way to please the customer.
DA, you've messed up and until you make things right with everybody, this incident is always going to follow you through your time on SR.
do whats right and refund EVERYONES money.
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Yeah!
Or else you're a SCAMMER!!!
You hear that Dutch? A SCAMSTER sonny..
No bueno
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Well he has been offline so he cant "see" anything. I too am still out $1500 and am scraping the money together for a 50g order from afterhour. Just sucks.because of all the great reviews ive read on Dutch i picked the one.time he fucks up for my first order from him. Fml. Hope he comes back, doesnt really make sense to refund everyones money but mine then vanish haha. So im sure it will be soon.
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thai guy sell fake MDMA.and [REMOVED - do not mention specific packaging details!] and get u bust pay moe and be safe and test it no mater wht e read!!!!
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kp taking my post i will kp posting it HE IS A SCAM HE DID US WRONE.BELIVE IT OR NOT TEST IT TEST IT
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This is worse than Tony76!
This is the worst thing ever.
I mean what am I going to do about my 200 million dollar shipment??
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see u nut lkrs iam not the only one that got fake MDMA.thank u for posting.i wish i woud have tested whrn o first got it +1 for u
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just received my 5 gs from docmorris. Only word I can say is wow!!!
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sam test it
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sam test it
Out of all the times I've ordered and received from Dutch it has not be fake. 100% legit best MDMA around for the price. Took 2 moons to get here though
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I finalized early out of good faith, contacted DA and he said he says on his page not to FE, which he does not, all he says it its not required.
I don't see it now, but for the past couple of months his page has in fact said not to finalize early. Once you finalize SR takes their commission and it also makes it necessary for dutch to manually keep a record of who has ordered and who has gotten a refund.
I'm not saying he shouldn't refund you (maybe minus the commission and hedge fees) but just wanted to mention these things.
thanks, i didn't know that, for as long as I've been looking at dutches page it hasn't been there, so i thought 'd mention, thanks for pointing that out.
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just have it tested
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was last seen: 6 days ago
Dutch pls come back we need your molly!
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whats the back story here? i dont get it...
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Have a feeling something weird is going on here...
Multiple people complaining of fake MDMA, and Dutch has not been online in 6 days...
Me no likey. I hope Dutch is back soon to clear everything up and once again supply us with his magic.
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I'm really bummed that Dutch has not been back since the Christmas holiday. I had thought he was going to put up a new listing only 50g to 100g orders with tracking. This would have stopped all the scammers.
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CAN some one please TEST there mdma..???ares was fake we found out way to late..look for ur SELF PLEASE.
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i know but then it smells like some thing else too..we didnt test it cuz wht was on hr..bt some one tested and showed us it was BK-MDMA.
may be he just burned us.but it was great BK-MDMA.or its just cut with BK-MDMA.look at.believe us or not.dont mater just telling u.WE didnt get PURE MDMA FROM him
we moved it all just lookd stupid telling everyone its PURE THE BEST MDMA.then its FAKE???could have gtn stuck with it if it wasnt for are rep.and people trusting we wouldn't sell fake ANY THING..just heads up every one.y is he NOT saying SHIT HMMMMMMMM??must be cuz i full of shit..just test it ur self
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i know but then it smells like some thing else too..we didnt test it cuz wht was on hr..bt some one tested and showed us it was BK-MDMA.
may be he just burned us.but it was great BK-MDMA.or its just cut with BK-MDMA.look at.believe us or not.dont mater just telling u.WE didnt get PURE MDMA FROM him
we moved it all just lookd stupid telling everyone its PURE THE BEST MDMA.then its FAKE???could have gtn stuck with it if it wasnt for are rep.and people trusting we wouldn't sell fake ANY THING..just heads up every one.y is he NOT saying SHIT HMMMMMMMM??must be cuz i full of shit..just test it ur self
I have a hard time believing this. I tested his shit back in late November/early December with a Marquis test, and it went jet black almost instantly. It certainly wasn't methylone (bk-MDMA) like you implying.
Oh wait, you're just some dumb fuck troll who can't even compose a coherent sentence without at least 4 grammatical errors. Why does the opinion of a 12 year-old matter again?
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* we test and we see tested MANY batches of Dutch 3 ways - all always show MDMA. * latest was late Nov early Dec. always happy w/Dutch, sometime very long ship time tho.
Dutch had problems with reshippers. always possible re shippers *MAYBE* send wrong thing out to someone.
WE DON THINK SO! clear some problem since Dec, but we don think fake product go out.
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WHERE ARE YOU DUTCH?? COME BACK PLEASE
im sick of these other vendors playing dumb ass games
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ur moms a troll dont believe me.u guys are lame hope he scams allll of u done with u guys..
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WHERE ARE YOU DUTCH?? COME BACK PLEASE
im sick of these other vendors playing dumb ass games
Other vendors playing dumb ass games?
Dutchanbod is one of the few vendors that have screwed around.
Have yet to receive any refund.
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He has been saying false return dates for months now. I took his word for honesty the first few times.. got my bit in order.. nothing. Every order has been great.. but the last few months have been torture with the false info on listings making a return.
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WHERE ARE YOU DUTCH?? COME BACK PLEASE
im sick of these other vendors playing dumb ass games
Other vendors playing dumb ass games?
Dutchanbod is one of the few vendors that have screwed around.
Have yet to receive any refund.
I have had more than ten successful transactions with dutch
he has never fucked with my money like these other vendors have
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Other vendors playing dumb ass games?
Dutchanbod is one of the few vendors that have screwed around.
Have yet to receive any refund.
I have had more than ten successful transactions with dutch
he has never fucked with my money like these other vendors have
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With all due respect (since your post count and karma are decently high), isn't this usually the case until someone goes rogue? Granted I don't think this is the case with Dutch, but think there are some issues occurring with customs.
I've just noticed that when someone goes rogue it's when they have a ton of packages in-transit, and the only way you put out that high volume of packages is with lots of 5/5 reviews beforehand.
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seems like most European vendors are not getting MDMA to the states
that must have something to do with it
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I don't believe that either. There are people who have complained about no shows but there has never been a single complaint that dutch sent fake mdma.
Drama in Dutcha's world---to bad---cause he is a bad ass!!!
If what was then is now----than any bitches got their panties stuck up their twats, cause Dutcha knows MDMA!!!!!
Offensive yes, but true I am, Dutch's operation is some of the best on the Road!!! Fuck the fake----Dutch has proven true to many times.
I quoted here, because D knows this even better than I!!!
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seems like most European vendors are not getting MDMA to the states
that must have something to do with it
are you saying that most European MDMA shipments to the states are getting seized?
what is it that must have something to do with it?
I'm just not following, but I am curious.
This is something that seems to have caused some hiccups within the last month or so. Many of the MDMA vendors from central-Europe (Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, etc) seem to be having a high failure rate recently with getting through USA customs. Since a lot of these big vendors use escrow this means that when items are not received by the buyer that the BitCoins are not released from the Silk Road escrow system. This can cause very serious problems with cash flow and prevent the vendor from being able to cash out and re-supply quickly enough.
I don't know what exactly is happening within the US customs system but even I had a package seized by customs about 2 weeks ago (it was coming from Belgium and I live in USA). A lot of these vendors have excellent stealth but it seems that US customs has upped their efforts of preventing drugs from coming in from Europe. I don't know if they're using better x-ray machines, using drug-sniffing dogs, or are just flagging packages from certain specific post offices in Europe but it has appeared to be temporarily successful at mucking things up.
Of course in a market like SR, the invisible hand works to undo coercive interference. European vendors will reduce orders from the USA and USA buyers will start using vendors from areas less scrutinized by customs. Eventually there will probably be some big high-quality vendors in the USA and then USA buyers won't even have to worry about customs. Either way I wish both vendors and buyers safe transactions.
Hope this spells it out a bit.
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Did you get a letter? Was the package tracked? I've definitely heard of a few people getting love letters recently. Packages were getting an easy pass through customs late last year so I'd say things are returning to normal.
That was the strange thing... no letter. From what I know I cannot tell if it was seized by the government customs or DHL's own internal customs department. It was seized 2 weeks ago so I would have expected a "notice" in the mail by now. Like I said, though, DHL told me to contact them via their website (and using the tracking number).
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Ah well that package was shipped through DHL. That carries much higher risk than sending through the post. The vendor never should have sent it that way.
No warrant required to search, and they take great advantage of this
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Come back to us Dutch!!! i personally need to re-up
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What a sad day for the Silk Road community if Dutch is really gone for good. The guy was a legend in my book, no one has since managed to match his pricing or product quality.
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First Pfand.. now Dutch.. I fear that AH will vanish next.. Very.. Very sad day indeed.
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HAAAHAAAA UR FIRED DUCHBAG :-*..
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pfandd come back to the road you are needed :'(
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pfandd come back to the road you are needed :'(
I'm almost getting tears in my eye why I think about pf :(
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pfandd come back to the road you are needed :'(
I'm almost getting tears in my eye why I think about pf :(
PF is backon the road. under PFreloaded . `he is just not sellin any mandy.
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I guess its safe to say that the Dutch man is gone :(
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I guess its safe to say that the Dutch man is gone :(
That really blows...maybe he got busted or somethin? It's not like he had a ton of people FE before he went out like all those other top vendors would do.
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I guess its safe to say that the Dutch man is gone :(
That really blows...maybe he got busted or somethin? It's not like he had a ton of people FE before he went out like all those other top vendors would do.
I think that's quite possible, although perhaps he's just not a piece of shit like the rest of the Dutch vendors here.
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Dutch was a legit business man.
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It's all part of the road....SKYY, dutchaandbod, pf, ivory, supertrips. Plenty of others. My guess is there is starting to be a shortage of precursor in such a small area as the netherlands. I just want a good reliable vendor shipping from Gemany, Canada, or UK. Some come back and some never do.
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LuckyLuciano seems to be on top of things right now. He is a bit more expensive then what dutch was. I think his 100g listings are 2,500 but i hear his shipping times are fast, product is fire, and is super stealth.
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Please come back dutch :(
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You know what. I just thought of something. Dutch has not logged in over a month. And in that time tons of people have been releasing coins to his account. He is not logging in to get lots and lots of money being poored into his account. Something probably happened to dutch for him not to come get the money.
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You know what. I just thought of something. Dutch has not logged in over a month. And in that time tons of people have been releasing coins to his account. He is not logging in to get lots and lots of money being poored into his account. Something probably happened to dutch for him not to come get the money.
You can assign an auto-withdraw wallet
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I know he's been gone for a while.. Never really knew why
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I know he's been gone for a while.. Never really knew why
Either:
1. He's getting out of the game or his supply went dry and has the decency not to scam people on the way out.
2. He got arrested/ didn't pay someone he should have.
Can't say for certain what's more likely. All I know is that after a month of not logging in here, there's a miniscule chance he ever comes back.
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For those who are subscribed to this thread, please see my post @ http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=120213.msg818233#msg818233
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Could be related to the same shortage that is effected AfterHour at the moment. I think I remember Dutch confirming that he had (or was) of the same source of AH and PF's 'badass' MDMA.
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Hi
we are back on SR ( not so sell at this moment )
We where not able to come online last days...The reason ? don't care :)
At this moment we don now now when we come back or if we will come back on SR we have much thing running and no time and no people to let it going back to normal on SR....
If people have interesting in bulk deals MDMA/PILLS/COCAINE or other products the can take contact with us on this MAIL :
dutchaanbod1@tormail.org
Our piority is GERMANY we can deliver over whole Germany
Greats Dutchaanbod
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yessssss!
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Missed you DA
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Great to see you back online and ok Dutchaanbod. Why not continue to work on SR but only in bulk amounts? That would limit the volume of orders you would need to process and would take less work and man power...Something like 100 grams and up through SR. That would eliminate a large number of orders. Dealing with 10 g pack at the price you had them for was probably a huge amount of work. I really don't like leaving the system that protects us... I know you are true to your word and your product is very nice. If I dont see you back on here maybe you will hear from me via email.
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We miss you Dutch ... Please come back!
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This is intresting. PF just logged a couple days ago too. ::)
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You should Do Oz / 100g / 250g /1000g and thats it. It will keep down sales since oz is the minimum and you will only be doing business with repeat customers most of the time since they are clearly dealers
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You should Do Oz / 100g / 250g /1000g and thats it. It will keep down sales since oz is the minimum and you will only be doing business with repeat customers most of the time since they are clearly dealers
An ounce is not a lot of molly.
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No it's not, but if he WERE to consider the idea of coming back, it would be a nice in-between for him. He wouldn't have the massive influx of orders from all the small timers while giving those who are interested in grabbing some for themselves and their [numerous] friends a chance to grab some as well without grabbing a quarter pound.
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anyone email seller and get a response?
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100g and up? maybe? I would need to pawn all my goods and take a loan out.. but I would do it in a heart beat because I trust Dutch. Please be that A+ vendor we all have come to appreciate so much.
100g en omhoog? misschien? Ik zou moeten verpanden al mijn goederen en neem een lening uit .. maar ik zou het doen in een hartslag, want ik vertrouw het Dutch. Houd er rekening dat A + verkoper alle wij zijn gekomen om zo veel waarderen.
P.S. festival season is coming......
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House Name: MDMA Buyers
House Sigil: One large moonrock
House words: Festival season is coming....
haha any game of thrones fans? 8)
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For reals, come back.
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I e-mailed vendor and received a response that stated that for right now, he wants to fuck with german buyers on strictly 1+ kilo. If I had the money, I'd already have my plane ticket purchased and on my way to germany to get that Key sent so I could break it down and send it back to myself here in the states
Like they say, it takes $ to make $....
He said he'd return in due time, but we've all heard this before. Nice to know he's not locked up or some shit though-he's good people.
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I think it's a good day for all of us here, dutchaanbod has announced his return via his SR page..
WE ARE COMING BACK LISTING WILL BE UP FAST
KETAMINE & MDMA
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Nice! Dutch was going to be my 1st purchase and then he left.. looks like he made things right with nearly all of his buyers so it's exciting to see a star vendor back with great prices.
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this is great news doing,cant wait.
doing business with dutch was very professional and i was one of the many who got refunded due to problems on his transport end which i thought was handled great (probably cus i didnt freak out thinking id been scammed)
lets hope shipping time is reasonable like in the beginning
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Yesssssssss, Dutchaanbod was my main man. I likd him almost better than Skyy, Pfand and Dr.Nyx
I had a handful of successful orders with him around the winter time.
He went away and I had string of bad luck with other OverSeas vendors, almost depleting my funds..
The return of Dutch is well received!!!!! Can't wait to bring in some good stuff for the warm seasons!
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It's a pity a lot of North Americans have moved on away from European vendors at this point. If he comes back I wish him the best of luck.
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will the return happen for real? Even though I'm not buying international having dutch shipping again will hopefully drive down domestic prices.
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nice to see someone go out with class.
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It's gonna be a very good summer after all :) Hells ya
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hehehe...someones coming back :)
wonder if it will be the same increments as last time
10g and above
or just bulk bulk bulk.
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hehehe...someones coming back :)
wonder if it will be the same increments as last time
10g and above
or just bulk bulk bulk.
I don't think it'd be much of a problem if the 1gm and 5gm listings were removed. 10gm isn't "bulk," but it's a reasonable amount and I think that'd be a good point to start listings at. If the smallest listing is only 50gm, I think alot of people (including myself) would be hesitant to order.
Can't wait for listings to be back up! :)
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Listing is up !!
We begin with sending on Wednesday..:.
KETAMINE LISTING WILL BE UP FAST
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Listing is up !!
We begin with sending on Wednesday..:.
KETAMINE LISTING WILL BE UP FAST
Dutch will u be accepting AUST orders?
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Listing is up !!
We begin with sending on Wednesday..:.
KETAMINE LISTING WILL BE UP FAST
well shit just got real.
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Dutch, I wish you shipped from Belgium. BPost is so much better then the rest of the EU.
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Dutch, I wish you shipped from Belgium. BPost is so much better then the rest of the EU.
On SR and/or in this forum I've heard about at least two seizures for packages from BePost. I don't know the details, although BePost seems to have some agreement with DHL and that might be the reason.
AFAIK dutch hasn't had any packages to the US opened or seized, although in fairness people that get busted often don't return to the forums to talk about it.
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Going to put in an order for 100grams. Wish me luck
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Be safe people. If you're ordering 100g then you MUST consider the possibility that the delivery address (or the addresses for anyone associated with it) may be searched so do not have illegal drugs/firearms/etc that police can find.
Hopefully these packages will come through without issues much like last year.
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word dutch
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Be safe people. If you're ordering 100g then you MUST consider the possibility that the delivery address (or the addresses for anyone associated with it) may be searched so do not have illegal drugs/firearms/etc that police can find.
Hopefully these packages will come through without issues much like last year.
don't be silly
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Dutch, I wish you shipped from Belgium. BPost is so much better then the rest of the EU.
On SR and/or in this forum I've heard about at least two seizures for packages from BePost. I don't know the details, although BePost seems to have some agreement with DHL and that might be the reason.
I'd like to see where you read that please.
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Well fuck me running. I'm like shaking right now with excitement, LET'S MAKE SOME GOD DAMN MOTHAFUCKIN' MONEY AND SPREAD THE LOVE <3
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There's no 10 gram listing.. :(
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dutch has mentioned that it'll be 50g+ at least for now. Even if you buy from elsewhere this is good news and it helps to pressure MDMA prices to come down. Don't get me wrong: I would like 10g too.
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dutch being back means low prices on amazing stuff
which means other vendors competing
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All hail the king..
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All hail the king..
LOL-so true though.
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Yes dutch you're back brother, let's do some business!
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Hey dutch if you read this is your stealth going to be the same as it was before the break or will you ramp it up now that you aren't dealing with a bunch of smaller orders?
Either way the return if dutch is good news for the mdma market here.
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This is most def good news. But after using other vendors since his vacay, I really hope he improves his stealth. Nonetheless, it's still inconspicuous but in sure LE has probably caught on to what most of these vendors are using for their methods.
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although i am glad dutch to be coming back i sincerely hope that stealth greatly improves. never had any of my several packages go missing, but i do really hope that changes be made to protect everyone even if it does cost a bit more *see sticky in the shipping section
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
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I think I might try for a 100g of Dutch's stuff because his was possibly the best I've ordered on here Definitely very *nervous* about Europe to US Customs though. We'll see...
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damn... glad to see the dutchman return finally, and i just put in another 100g order with dutchtrade, could have saved $75 lol.
had several successful orders previously with dutchaanbod, top notch vendor for sure, when i got to restock ill be back
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anyone talk to the seller and find out new ESCROW rules?
i saw
Q : Do i need to finalize early?
A : No you don have to finalize early only 50gr+ package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility
but
min order is 50; has this always been the case or has this info been updated
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anyone talk to the seller and find out new ESCROW rules?
i saw
Q : Do i need to finalize early?
A : No you don have to finalize early only 50gr+ package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility
but
min order is 50; has this always been the case or has this info been updated
I PM'd Dutchaanbod about this. This was his old policy, and still exists. All orders must be finalised when they are leaving Germany.
I'm undecided about if I want to do this or not. $1,000 is a lot of money...
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anyone talk to the seller and find out new ESCROW rules?
i saw
Q : Do i need to finalize early?
A : No you don have to finalize early only 50gr+ package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility
but
min order is 50; has this always been the case or has this info been updated
I PM'd Dutchaanbod about this. This was his old policy, and still exists. All orders must be finalised when they are leaving Germany.
I'm undecided about if I want to do this or not. $1,000 is a lot of money...
I agree. And if you're in one of the countries that scrutinizes European shipments it might make you nervous. If I here of a good success rate with shipment and the stealth is in order for US orders I will bite for 50g-100g. Dutch's stuff was the hardest-hitting MDMA I've had on the road although it didn't quite last as long as some others.
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anyone talk to the seller and find out new ESCROW rules?
i saw
Q : Do i need to finalize early?
A : No you don have to finalize early only 50gr+ package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility
but
min order is 50; has this always been the case or has this info been updated
I PM'd Dutchaanbod about this. This was his old policy, and still exists. All orders must be finalised when they are leaving Germany.
I'm undecided about if I want to do this or not. $1,000 is a lot of money...
I agree. And if you're in one of the countries that scrutinizes European shipments it might make you nervous. If I here of a good success rate with shipment and the stealth is in order for US orders I will bite for 50g-100g. Dutch's stuff was the hardest-hitting MDMA I've had on the road although it didn't quite last as long as some others.
I'm from Australia - So it's just as bad as the US with customs... I had no problem with any of the 10gm orders I ordered late last year, but they were only $200 per order, as opposed to $1,000 and requiring finalising before it arrives... The MDMA from Dutchaanbod was amazing. I had 180mg to start with at a music festival, and that was incredible.
I've also noticed the new stuff is pink, not light brown. I take it it was manufactured with the PMK method, not saffrole?
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Hi all
because much people ask if the package's :
Yes we update our package's the are now heat sealed so there is no risk of smelll and the package's look original...
More i can not tell :)
Greats DA
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That's really good news.
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Glad to see that the packages are now more stealthy! and heat sealed!
+1 dutchaanbod
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I don't like asking silly questions, but I googled this and didn't find much info.
what is the difference between vacuum sealed & heat sealed?
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I don't like asking silly questions, but I googled this and didn't find much info.
what is the difference between vacuum sealed & heat sealed?
I think he meant MBB but i'm not sure. This thread has a bunch of info about it, http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
Edit: Actually he probably meant the heat sealed foil bags.
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I don't like asking silly questions, but I googled this and didn't find much info.
what is the difference between vacuum sealed & heat sealed?
I think he meant MBB but i'm not sure. This thread has a bunch of info about it, http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119458.0
Edit: Actually he probably meant the heat sealed foil bags.
+1
Thanks - I'm still hesitant about ordering 50gm in one order. My 10gm orders all came through fine, but 50gm is a bigger risk both financially and legally (even though I have a safe shipping method).
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dutch has been back since wed and not a single person claims to have ordered or in progress. i thought we all cried for the day to have dutch return. i figured by now someone would claim to have an order on the way. are we all sheep/waiting for confirmation? like above although tempting price for 50; im too scared for the reals :(
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dutch has been back since wed and not a single person claims to have ordered or in progress. i thought we all cried for the day to have dutch return. i figured by now someone would claim to have an order on the way. are we all sheep/waiting for confirmation? like above although tempting price for 50; im too scared for the reals :(
Well a lot of buyers never use the forums, so there could have been orders placed, but not arrived yet. We will see the feedbabck on Dutchaanbod's page soon anyway.
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dutch has been back since wed and not a single person claims to have ordered or in progress. i thought we all cried for the day to have dutch return. i figured by now someone would claim to have an order on the way. are we all sheep/waiting for confirmation? like above although tempting price for 50; im too scared for the reals :(
People had to move on after waiting. I would like to have one of his 50g packages right now but my circumstances have changed and I no longer have a safe drop. Last January I would have happily ordered 100g from dutch.
Anyway, customers will return but not every one of them need to post into this thread "hey I ordered." I think we'd be more interested to hear about when people start to receive their packs.
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we had an order for a large amount processing since monday that we cancelled today. his page stated that orders would be going out on wed, its friday and ours was not in transit so we decided to cancel. there are 2 many vendors that are offering qulaity prices and product and do not have his checkered past, when he went MIA alot of people lost alot of money and as his page stated.... reason we didnt come back to handle things---dont care. we would like to see what his shipping times are like now a days but stating orders will be shipped on wed and come friday they are not is not a good sign to us.
regards....usa2usa
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There was not much interests so we decide to put our listing down and don come back on sr....
Dutchaanbod
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Dude sold a lot of coke to you niggaz.
You jew trash need to shut the fuck up and learn your place.
More like watch your back irish want-to-be dog.
You'd be lucky to end up dead and bloddied in a mexico ditch.
I'd set your fucking corpse on fire.
I'm sick and tired of this ignorant ass jew nigger coke traffic bullshit.
Face to face in da compount its a bullet to the head no matter what.
Fuck a bitcoin raincheck and fuck you nigga BAM
Dead nigger jews. Bet.
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There was not much interests so we decide to put our listing down and don come back on sr....
Dutchaanbod
Wow.
I'm sure business would have been big again after a little time.
Oh well.
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Dutch, dont go. I think you should just wait it out a minute. Business will come back to you guys. I was just thinking of making a purchase myself (your 100 MDMA packs, and quarter keys of both MDMA and K looked very promising) but wanted to wait to see how things were looking once you got back into full swing again, particularly the duration of transit times. But at any rate, I urge you to reconsider and stick it out on SR with these new offerings. I dont think you will regret it. Take care either way though.
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dutch either come back or dont m8 dont tease us
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Put up 10g listings if you want some sales, nobody wants to bite the bullet on 50 or 100g quite yet when you've just returned.
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That's true the 10g listings will start to sell much faster to get some momentum going. Since they aren't tracked it should be a lot less of a pain to ship them as well.
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There was not much interests so we decide to put our listing down and don come back on sr....
Dutchaanbod
i guess business has been much slower than you anticipated as you had the chance to respond to every one of my pm. i do consider you to be a well known and proper seller, but the problem you and other vendors face is the simple fact that you straight up disappeared and now have suddenly made your return. things have changed over the past 3 and a bit months. new vendors have made good and the market has adjusted. have you and your team spent a bit of time researching the market conditions? when you left all you said something to the effect that "a whole lot of money was missing". thanks, but...you still havnt cleared that up. who knows this might be a hit and run for coins. consumer confidence in you is low if you are still present
1-what happened to the money?
2-why did you suddenly go under
3-why have you not provided any background/update
4-where are you going to sell bmr?
ffs! you have 150+ pages of reviews. dawg you are a big name and a big deal. i hope you don't leave. i intend to purchase, but can not afford to be the guinea pig.
a few things to consider which i am sure you and your team are thinking about; when you first made mention about contact through email you had said 100g was the min. when returning i noticed that 50g was the min. idk maybe the return minimum is too high at the moment. possibly allowing escrow at 50 would be enought for people to pull the trigger. lowering it a bit could help. again, i am sure myself and others are waiting to see if you come good on your word. seems like you are working a smaller margin and high volume than other vendors. people will come, but this will take time. do you want to deal with people asking for 10g packs? 20 or 30g lessens your work by double or tripple assuming you keep the same margins. if you want to go walmart style than be my guest. everyone is fearful of getting their coins snapped up especially since now that you have returned coins have 5x-6x the value.
finally did all orders get canceled or being sent out?
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I agree with other people here.
It's a shame you have gone. But 50gm listing is quite big and also the fact that it needed to be finalised when it left Germany was a concern to buyers ordering $1,000 of MDMA minimum.
Also I think more time was needed and a 25gm order would be been very popular. 10gm was still a good amount as a minimum, which was extremely popular when it was listed. You could have put the price of 10gm order at $250 to encourage buyers to buy larger quantities, and the 10gm one still would have sold well.
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I suppose the drive into Germany didn't seem to be worth the effort, but sometimes you take a small loss at the start for big gains later.
As I recall dutch works under some top boss. Maybe the boss made the decision? Given a month or so the orders would be slowing in. Heck I was the first person to even bump this thread after it finally went idle. Lots of us were checking dutch's listing daily for 1-2 months before giving up.
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I have a 100g's coming soon. Dont believe it was shipped yet. But it should be soon I get the tracking. I will update.
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I have a 100g's coming soon. Dont believe it was shipped yet. But it should be soon I get the tracking. I will update.
It kinda of sounds like your order might get cancelled if it hasn't already.
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haaaaahaaaahaaaa FUCK U thats wht u get for been an ass hole..and ur out..haahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
go back to selling crack on the corner. :-*
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Why would orders be cancelled?
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There was not much interests so we decide to put our listing down and don come back on sr....
Dutchaanbod
Here.
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There was not much interests so we decide to put our listing down and don come back on sr....
Dutchaanbod
Here.
sounds like he just scammed all of you
put in for100% refunds
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If he didn't mark "in transit" then they can just hit the cancel button four days after placing their orders.
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dutch - don know if you come read this? need to give people more then few day to order again. take time to get BTC and depend on cycle of what need and people not check every day if you maybe come back??
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Fuck Dutch. >:(
FE requiring Mother Fucker. Fuck FE! >:(
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Hi
We never asked people to FE so thats bullshit...
There where 8 orders that we had canceled so everyone get there money back..
DA
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I wasn't expecting dutchaanbod to post in here since he isn't doing the SR thing now.
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Hi
We never asked people to FE so thats bullshit...
There where 8 orders that we had canceled so everyone get there money back..
DA
That's a lie, you required all orders over 50g to FE after recieving tracking.
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Hi
We never asked people to FE so thats bullshit...
There where 8 orders that we had canceled so everyone get there money back..
DA
That's a lie, you required all orders over 50g to FE after recieving tracking.
Q : Do i need to finalize early?
A : No you don have to finalize early only 50gr+ package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility
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Hi
We never asked people to FE so thats bullshit...
There where 8 orders that we had canceled so everyone get there money back..
DA
That's a lie, you required all orders over 50g to FE after recieving tracking.
Q : Do i need to finalize early?
A : No you don have to finalize early only 50gr+ package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility
Yea, that's right. My point being, before I recieve the package I must finalize hence finalizing early.
He's a liar and he smells funny.
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Hi
We never asked people to FE so thats bullshit...
There where 8 orders that we had canceled so everyone get there money back..
DA
That's a lie, you required all orders over 50g to FE after recieving tracking.
Q : Do i need to finalize early?
A : No you don have to finalize early only 50gr+ package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility
Yea, that's right. My point being, before I recieve the package I must finalize hence finalizing early.
He's a liar and he smells funny.
He never shipped the recent orders so none of them should have finalized and he apparently cancelled those orders.
Don't be an ass. dutchaanbod provided me with 50g of quality MDMA at a great price. I wasn't a fan of the packaging back then but they all came through because east coast customs didn't bother checking. All of good.
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Hi
We never asked people to FE so thats bullshit...
There where 8 orders that we had canceled so everyone get there money back..
DA
That's a lie, you required all orders over 50g to FE after recieving tracking.
Q : Do i need to finalize early?
A : No you don have to finalize early only 50gr+ package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility
Yea, that's right. My point being, before I recieve the package I must finalize hence finalizing early.
He's a liar and he smells funny.
He never shipped the recent orders so none of them should have finalized and he apparently cancelled those orders.
Don't be an ass. dutchaanbod provided me with 50g of quality MDMA at a great price. I wasn't a fan of the packaging back then but they all came through because east coast customs didn't bother checking. All of good.
Just because he never shipped does not mean he did not ask. You yourself quoted where he asked for FE. Dont be a fan boy.
He asked for FE - This is irrefutable.
Vendors that sell and then ask to FE on future or larger amounts have been known to go rogue and walk away with a boat load of coin. You don't have to look far, foxbelle77 ring any bells? Stop enabling this type of behavior!
Also, If you mean I'm being an ass by stating he smells, I thought that was a bit of comic relief that would add humor to a conversation I saw going sour. Subtle social ques must not be your strong point.
Good Day!
P.S. I am an Ass. :P
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onefishtwofishredfishblue did the quote, not me. Just saying...
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Hi
We never asked people to FE so thats bullshit...
There where 8 orders that we had canceled so everyone get there money back..
DA
That's a lie, you required all orders over 50g to FE after recieving tracking.
Q : Do i need to finalize early?
A : No you don have to finalize early only 50gr+ package's have to finalize when the tracking says its at the sort facility
Yea, that's right. My point being, before I recieve the package I must finalize hence finalizing early.
He's a liar and he smells funny.
He never shipped the recent orders so none of them should have finalized and he apparently cancelled those orders.
Don't be an ass. dutchaanbod provided me with 50g of quality MDMA at a great price. I wasn't a fan of the packaging back then but they all came through because east coast customs didn't bother checking. All of good.
Just because he never shipped does not mean he did not ask. You yourself quoted where he asked for FE. Dont be a fan boy.
He asked for FE - This is irrefutable.
Vendors that sell and then ask to FE on future or larger amounts have been known to go rogue and walk away with a boat load of coin. You don't have to look far, foxbelle77 ring any bells? Stop enabling this type of behavior!
Also, If you mean I'm being an ass by stating he smells, I thought that was a bit of comic relief that would add humor to a conversation I saw going sour. Subtle social ques must not be your strong point.
Good Day!
P.S. I am an Ass. :P
Ohhhhhhhhhh I just thought of how much money I lost from Foxbelle scamming cunt!!
I genuinely think Dutchaanbod is a good seller though. Otherwise he would have at least taken the 8 orders that were placed and stolen that money...
He cancelled them which refunded everyone.
I have ordered from Dutchaanbod numerous times to Australia (easy scam country) and every order arrived!
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onefishtwofishredfishblue did the quote, not me. Just saying...
Ok, sorry you didn't provide that quote.
My point still stands.
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Still waiting on a refund from this guy after "he" sent my order to the wrong person.
I have sent him numerous messages everytime I receive a hateful reply.
He that screws up should fix his mess..
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This guy still dealing MDMA?
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Maybe just anal beads?
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Still waiting on a refund from this guy after "he" sent my order to the wrong person.
I have sent him numerous messages everytime I receive a hateful reply.
He that screws up should fix his mess..
A lot of people got 2 orders. You must have been on the wrong end of that error.
I always had perfect orders from him. Guess I was lucky.
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must have been nice to get a double order,I'm still waiting on a half ounce of molly to show after he said he shipped it and would provide me tracking info,he didn't....I saw that he logged on to SR yesterday and it appears he has been hacked? I don't know the person who has claimed taking over but this waiting and lying shit is getting real old.
REAL FUCKING OLD.
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yeah, what is this? Pfhandleiher and Dutch the same guy?
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Yeah that caught my eye today.
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we thnk they are just good friends. though they could b the same person..... i would bet not though
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That would explain why the only packages i never received have been from PF and Dutch...
Fuck his arrogant attitude
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That would explain why the only packages i never received have been from PF and Dutch...
Fuck his arrogant attitude
my only missing packs came from PF and dutch; 1 each.
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My only missing pack came from DutchTrade, Good experience with Dutchaanbod, but haven't ordered since the massive ordeal early this year/late last year.
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I had great experiences with Pfand and Dutch.
Although around late November I ordered 20g from Dutchaanbod, received it quickly. Almost a week after that came in, there was another 20g that I didn't order sitting in my mailbox...
That was the last time I ordered from him, because I knew that if I received 20g that I DIDNT order, then someone didnt receive theirs.
Considering all the drama surrounding Dutch and Pfand when they left, I'm gonna see what happens before ordering from em again if they come back.
But like i said, I've had nothing but great experiences with em, some of the best MDMA i've eaten for some of the cheapest prices.
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I had great experiences with Pfand and Dutch.
Although around late November I ordered 20g from Dutchaanbod, received it quickly. Almost a week after that came in, there was another 20g that I didn't order sitting in my mailbox...
That was the last time I ordered from him, because I knew that if I received 20g that I DIDNT order, then someone didnt receive theirs.
Considering all the drama surrounding Dutch and Pfand when they left, I'm gonna see what happens before ordering from em again if they come back.
But like i said, I've had nothing but great experiences with em, some of the best MDMA i've eaten for some of the cheapest prices.
+1 To you!
I think you're the only one who had confessed with receiving a package you didn't order! I remember way back when in Nov when Dutch had claimed that he sent out duplicate orders, nobody stepped forward and admitted they received a duplicate! I just wish he had sent me A duplicate of 300g that I ordered in Nov ;) hahah
Kinda scary though, knowing he doesn't trash addresses after he marks in transit don't ya think? :o
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I had great experiences with Pfand and Dutch.
Although around late November I ordered 20g from Dutchaanbod, received it quickly. Almost a week after that came in, there was another 20g that I didn't order sitting in my mailbox...
That was the last time I ordered from him, because I knew that if I received 20g that I DIDNT order, then someone didnt receive theirs.
Considering all the drama surrounding Dutch and Pfand when they left, I'm gonna see what happens before ordering from em again if they come back.
But like i said, I've had nothing but great experiences with em, some of the best MDMA i've eaten for some of the cheapest prices.
+1 To you!
I think you're the only one who had confessed with receiving a package you didn't order! I remember way back when in Nov when Dutch had claimed that he sent out duplicate orders, nobody stepped forward and admitted they received a duplicate! I just wish he had sent me A duplicate of 300g that I ordered in Nov ;) hahah
Kinda scary though, knowing he doesn't trash addresses after he marks in transit don't ya think? :o
I always had great luck with PF and Dutch and I too also believe they just know each other through their supplier or could be friends, along with AF but just a theory... kind of on topic about ordering MDMA to the states though and same situation happened to me but worse and I was straight up cause it scared my ass and I even told the vendor straight up.... So I ordered 20g from XTCEXPRESS and I received it in like 11 days and all was kosher and was pretty legit and funny but at the same time kind of funny ( much like ST if his method is still generally the same as about a year ago) but about 4 days later I checked the mail and to be honest my face light up cause I just knew that this was duplicate even though the shipping was different the funny part let me know it was not normal mail.. Like I thought another 20g of a different brown batch.. At this point I all over his forums as I felt terrible for the people that didn't receive due to his error but there was nothing I could do..? considering the time apart was only 4 days and I am US I assumed it was a duplicate sent at the same time as this is normal and often happens to me but then literally like 7-14 days later ( think the latter of that number) but I get another pack that I know is from XTC and I casually walk back but knew upon opening it that it was a smaller order and I was right it was a 10g pack so at this point I told XTC to please look into it and not send me anything as it scared me shit less that he kept my address and sent me a whole separate order that who in the hell knows how he fucked up but I ended up getting 30 free grams for ordering 20 grams but that just means 2 people didn't get their shit!
Back on topic Dutch was the man and I wish I had the balls to order more than 40 before he left :(
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I had great experiences with Pfand and Dutch.
Although around late November I ordered 20g from Dutchaanbod, received it quickly. Almost a week after that came in, there was another 20g that I didn't order sitting in my mailbox...
That was the last time I ordered from him, because I knew that if I received 20g that I DIDNT order, then someone didnt receive theirs.
Considering all the drama surrounding Dutch and Pfand when they left, I'm gonna see what happens before ordering from em again if they come back.
But like i said, I've had nothing but great experiences with em, some of the best MDMA i've eaten for some of the cheapest prices.
+1 To you!
I think you're the only one who had confessed with receiving a package you didn't order! I remember way back when in Nov when Dutch had claimed that he sent out duplicate orders, nobody stepped forward and admitted they received a duplicate! I just wish he had sent me A duplicate of 300g that I ordered in Nov ;) hahah
Kinda scary though, knowing he doesn't trash addresses after he marks in transit don't ya think? :o
It was funny when I got home from the drop and explained to my girlfriend what happened and that the 20g in my hand was basically for free, she kept asking why i looked upset.
That's 20g someone didnt get that they paid for!! I felt pretty bad, but at the same time, I didn't know what to do. I still feel horrible for not tossing him the bitcoin for it like I should've.
Bills were piling up at that point, and well, the power of justification is strong. I wouldn't of felt so bad, but Dutchaanbod hooked up with literally some of the best stuff I've eaten and at ridiculous prices.
I was selling grams for 80$ (in an area where they go for at least 100$ when pure crystal) and making bank. Sucks cus all that money went to paying off old debt.
and yea, it was scary realizing he kept my address, but I was under the impression that Dutch would get an order, and either send the address AND the MDMA to a German friend who would then ship it to us, or the German friend already had the MDMA, and Dutch would send the amount and address.
Scary when you realize your address is being tossed around, but out of all the MDMA he was selling, I doubt a measely 20g would've been interest to anyone, not when he was consistently sending ppl 100g packs.
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"was last seen: today"
Idem "Pfandleiher Reloaded". Let's see if they/he gives us a answer here on the forums.
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"Whatsuppp everbodyyyyyy!
This is Pfandleiher, so go suck some dick if you still dont believe me !
U all think you know better heheheh :)
Here is your go-to guy (me hahahaha)
Pfandleiher reloaded aka Mr Nice Guy"
...da fuck? was recently posted to dutch's page...what the hell
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"Whatsuppp everbodyyyyyy!
This is Pfandleiher, so go suck some dick if you still dont believe me !
U all think you know better heheheh :)
Here is your go-to guy (me hahahaha)
Pfandleiher reloaded aka Mr Nice Guy"
...da fuck? was recently posted to dutch's page...what the hell
Your like a month late bro...
That was posted by PF after Afterhour came into PF's thread saying that the new PF is a scammer, and that he will never come back even ask dutch...and that was PF's rebuttal.
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"Whatsuppp everbodyyyyyy!
This is Pfandleiher, so go suck some dick if you still dont believe me !
U all think you know better heheheh :)
Here is your go-to guy (me hahahaha)
Pfandleiher reloaded aka Mr Nice Guy"
...da fuck? was recently posted to dutch's page...what the hell
Your like a month late bro...
That was posted by PF after Afterhour came into PF's thread saying that the new PF is a scammer, and that he will never come back even ask dutch...and that was PF's rebuttal.
If they were a scammer, wouldn't it be wise to make a fresh account not linked to an old account and even using a similar name? :-/
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Well im glad that nobody was scamming on our side.
:)