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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: cladge on April 17, 2012, 01:19 pm
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Im not the expert but I am hoping someone with a lot of experience on this could compile a list of the toughest customs to bypass. Maybe do a top 10 or even more maybe, Number 1 being the strictest of all ..
Im keen to find out where the UK would line up in the league too. Cheers :D
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The Middle East (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, etc) are probably the most difficult and stringent places to import drugs into.. Even a small joint through airport security can send a tourist to prison for a few years, and serious drug crimes are punishable by death. I'd imagine it would be just as difficult to mail them in, as they have fewer rights than the 1st world and probably scrutinize all mail much more carefully. Many (if not all) vendors are unlikely to ship here.
Next on the list would probably be countries like Australia, Sweden, Switzerland, etc who each have zero-tolerance drug policies and are well-regarded as having impressive customs checks. Getting a [decent sized] package intercepted here will probably land you an angry customs letter or even quite possibly a knock on the door.
Russia makes a honorable mention, but not for the toughness of it's customs--- They probably care very little. The issue with Russia is the high likelihood of your product not even reaching your doorstep..Russia's postal system is notorious for packages turning up "missing" (ie., stolen) or taking weeks to reach their destination.
First world countries, like Western Europe, USA, Canada, etc. have relatively decent customs, however the place of origin seems to be very much responsible for the level of scrutiny the package receives. These countries probably have the highest rate of success, outside of liberal countries like Portugal or the Netherlands.
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Along 1st world countries, I would have to vote for Sweden. It is ridiculous how many resources flow to customs. I once heard they had four times the manpower than Norway or Denmark.
It is really strange thinking about how relatively liberal countries near Sweden are Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Finland, etc.
Smuggling marijuana to Sweden can give you 8-9-10 years of imprisonment - with no priors. Catch you on the street with 1 g coke you get a month in jail. Second time you will get 2 months. And then the fines, they are huge. 2-15.000 Euros.
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Along 1st world countries, I would have to vote for Sweden. It is ridiculous how many resources flow to customs. I once heard they had four times the manpower than Norway or Denmark.
It is really strange thinking about how relatively liberal countries near Sweden are Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Finland, etc.
Smuggling marijuana to Sweden can give you 8-9-10 years of imprisonment - with no priors. Catch you on the street with 1 g coke you get a month in jail. Second time you will get 2 months. And then the fines, they are huge. 2-15.000 Euros.
We're talking about the difficulty to bypass customs now though. Norwegian and especially Finnish customs are better at their job from what I've come to understand.
Small orders inside of EU will usually have no problems getting through customs to Sweden.
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Sweden is the Iran of Europe when it comes to drugs. Of course small orders inside of EU have a chance, but to my knowledge Sweden is the hardest in every aspect.
There is very much control in Sweden. Don't think that most Swedes really oppose this fact or have anything against it. They create this illusion of being free, but really they are more like slaves. I mean Sweden is the most atheistic country in the world but also got the lowest drug/alco consumption rates? It's not for no reason that officials of East Germany really looked up to Sweden.
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Sweden is the Iran of Europe when it comes to drugs. Of course small orders inside of EU have a chance, but to my knowledge Sweden is the hardest in every aspect.
To my knowledge it is way harder getting contraband of the type offered here into Finland and Italy and more vendors refuse to send to these countries. I don't dispute what you say about the drug laws overall.
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I have worked a couple of sorting offices in the UK and small/medium packages never get checked. There is so much mail and the workers are on such tight deadlines that if they did start checking even a small amount of that mail then everything else would be delayed and that is the last thing they want as Royal Mail these days is not as good as it once was and is under immense pressure to make the deadlines.
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yeah, maybe coming through an airport with undeclared honey in your bag they might be one of the toughest
but myself and a few friends have ordered more than 50 packages combined and all but 2 of them have arrived.
and the 2 that didnt. What up hybridmike and the super scam sale. So they dont count as they were never shipped
So i think there is a lot of bullshit and propaganda around aussie customs
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Australian customs are given too much credit. People watch too much border security.
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What would be the list of hardest customs in the states? Just curious cuz I got a package in customs right now lol
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
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I hear a lot of experienced people telling me that Australia's customs aren't really that tough.
And I hear a lot of newbies/some older telling me it's world-renowned as the toughest.
I'm not sure what to believe.
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Australian customs are given too much credit. People watch too much border security.
Aussie customs are so over rated! I think they get their reputation from huge busts that get stopped all the time and these are like international drug ring type things that most of the time are tipped off by another country to start with! As for you mail and small things... They don't have the funding... Thats how I see it... Oh and the fact that we have about 10 different customs reality scare tactic shows that appear to be working pretty well!
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Maybe they are over rated but Where did you get they 'dont have the funding'???
And then there is aqis...
and then there is a little thread where there is a whole bunch of people not getting their shit and then there is a whole bunch of people who dont post when they dont get their orders.... so really, I guess we will never know how shit they are ;)
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Yesterday and 2day Customs NZ have knocked on the doors of 2 seperate addresses of residences I have had 5g mdma shipments sent to from holland (not Skyy!)the letters were sent a week apart. unfuckingbelievable. They must be individually checking every single fucking item coming out of holland!
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I also think the THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN is a huge factor in the equation of where customs target their limited resources. personally I'm 5/5 out of germany/austria, 3/3 outta the US and 0 for 3 from holland!!! if that is just random bad-luck, statistically the odds are in the thousands to 1
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I think it does not really matter how good a countries customs are. it has more to do with the amount of mail coming in to the country everyday. When Scandinavian countries such as Norway, Finland and Sweden get mail from for example India it would be a suspicious rarity compared to countries that have lots of Indians. Even if customs got fucking 2000 dogs, 200 x-rays machines etc in the US 99% more or less will slip by especially if it is only small quantities in small letters. How more divided and how bigger your country is the more easy it will be have drugs mailed. Also Switzerland is like the most drug liberal country in Europe together with Czech so don't be dissing.
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Australian customs are given too much credit. People watch too much border security.
Aussie customs are so over rated! I think they get their reputation from huge busts that get stopped all the time and these are like international drug ring type things that most of the time are tipped off by another country to start with! As for you mail and small things... They don't have the funding... Thats how I see it... Oh and the fact that we have about 10 different customs reality scare tactic shows that appear to be working pretty well!
Not to mention those 100-200 glocks that got through and distributed to the underworld...
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Australian customs are given too much credit. People watch too much border security.
Aussie customs are so over rated! I think they get their reputation from huge busts that get stopped all the time and these are like international drug ring type things that most of the time are tipped off by another country to start with! As for you mail and small things... They don't have the funding... Thats how I see it... Oh and the fact that we have about 10 different customs reality scare tactic shows that appear to be working pretty well!
Not to mention those 100-200 glocks that got through and distributed to the underworld...
But remember, the paperwork for those weapons was forged so that the guns & parts would pass through customs.
Guns are probably the most difficult thing to import. Unless of course you have paperwork (i.e. if you were a legitimate firearms dealer)
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I mean Sweden is the most atheistic country in the world but also got the lowest drug/alco consumption rates? It's not for no reason that officials of East Germany really looked up to Sweden.
I not sure what you meant. Are you saying atheists consume drugs at a higher rate than non-atheists?
It has always baffled me how the European countries attitudes towards drugs can differ so much from their neighbors.
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Some interesting reading thanks for the responses ..
However is someone going to stick there neck out and try a top 10 (To the best of their knowledge)
Then if anyone else disagrees then re-order it and explain why they have included/excluded any country. On the basis of how tough to smuggle in/out small packages ..
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UK customs are really easy, a lot of vendors (even dutch) report 100% success rate
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UK customs are really easy, a lot of vendors (even dutch) report 100% success rate
Im UK n just made my 1st order from Netherlands, Ordered Sunday and arrived today :)
Until now I have been too paranoid to order from overseas. Thats why I was after other ppl's opinions on the customs around the world ..
There is no customs decleration to make within the European Union but I dunno what real differance it makes as obviously there will still be postal/border security to pass through ..
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Back to the Top.10.
Whatabout Singapore or Asia in general? Singapore because relative low volume of mail and very strict laws.
btw. anyone had any experience sending TO Latin America (Brazil espc?)
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1. Norway
2.Finland
3.Sweden
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Does anyone actually know for sure that in their own country standard business envelopes are sorted for inspection by country of origin?
I can't imagine that many customs services have the time or resources to inspect paper thin envelopes in case their might be a personal amount of drugs or cash in them. Surely it can't be feasible given the volume of mail and the fact that any resulting conviction would be hard to achieve and such a small victory..?
I can say for sure that people do give Australian customs more credit than is due... Bulkier packets and parcels are definitely still a high risk though. Organic matter is by far the biggest risk as quarantine is a very high priority here and in NZ.
As for NL, I think part of the problem is that there has only ever been a few NL vendors at any given time that are stealth shippers. There were a few complacent shippers that had high numbers of losses. Secondly, a high percentage of orders from NL are pills, which are much harder to conceal than powders or blotter.
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Does anyone actually know for sure that in their own country standard business envelopes are sorted for inspection by country of origin?
I can't imagine that many customs services have the time or resources to inspect paper thin envelopes in case their might be a personal amount of drugs or cash in them. Surely it can't be feasible given the volume of mail and the fact that any resulting conviction would be hard to achieve and such a small victory..?
I also have a hard time believing such claims. But one thing - victory in the case of small amounts isn't conviction, it's just interception and destruction.
I hope they make one of those law enforcement reality shows about Swedish mail customs. :D
Probably not exciting enough for TV... envelopes aren't gonna take their chances and run for it.
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Finnish customs said last spring, officially, that they have too little manpower and at least 90% of the products go through. They only x-ray the parcel if a dog has pointed it. So vendors, please start making an extra effort in the packaging so that people in finland can enjoy good quality drugs too! It should be good business for you too, since there's so may finns who like to take drugs for fun and we have loads of money!
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Ive heard many stories about Australia's customs being tough
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Ive heard many stories about Australia's customs being tough
That's because a ring of vendors started selectively scamming and never mailing out product....... Aussie customs isn't THAT good. I just choose not to ship INTL though. More hassle when I can sell out domestic anyway. A tougher one from my understanding was Japan. I personally haven't done it but have been told from others it was a pain.
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Ive heard many stories about Australia's customs being tough
Ok I'll bite on this subject for the hundredth time ::)
Aussie customs are tight but they are not the impenetrable fortress shows like border security would have you believe. Australia is a remote island albeit a fucking large one and the volume of importations into this country is HUGE! As such a lot of drugs make there way into Australia via the mail system and SR has been the catalyst for a shit load more smaller importations that is reflected in last years seizure rates which were up significantly.
The main issue with getting stuff into Australia is to do with the stealth and packaging techniques used by most vendors, chucking your 8 ball into an envelope after vac sealing once with PE food grade plastic isn't going to avoid detection as often as some vendors would like to think.
The is also a massive amount of FUD banded about on here just adding to the conjecture and myths, threads like this being case in point with everyone posting what they 'think' to be true.
ssbd
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I'm in the USA, and I'm 2/2 getting shit shipped from NL. Is NL flagged real hard, or are the vendors stealth just really bad? I know my current vendor uses the best stealth possible so Im not real worried, just curious.
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Im not the expert but I am hoping someone with a lot of experience on this could compile a list of the toughest customs to bypass. Maybe do a top 10 or even more maybe, Number 1 being the strictest of all ..
Im keen to find out where the UK would line up in the league too. Cheers :D
UK are pretty slack about it, not sure where they would be to be fair but Australia or NZ are probably the toughest.
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It's been said before, but most of the worlds customs are on a par with each other in terms of skill, the difference in detection rates comes from a couple of things. Long transit times give Australian and new Zealand customs an easier time of it, and low volumes of mail give Scandinavian customs an easier time. UK isn't slack, but they're no better than any other country except for catching tobacco, somehow they are experts at this.
Most of the stuff that gets caught is badly packed, some of the packages i've received in the UK would have zero chance of arriving in Australia.
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Im not the expert but I am hoping someone with a lot of experience on this could compile a list of the toughest customs to bypass. Maybe do a top 10 or even more maybe, Number 1 being the strictest of all ..
Im keen to find out where the UK would line up in the league too. Cheers :D
UK are pretty slack about it, not sure where they would be to be fair but Australia or NZ are probably the toughest.
And what evidence do you have to substantiate this claim?
I cannot comment on NZ but AU is not the toughest, comments like this just perpetuate the myth and FUD. No offense intended, I would openly admit they are harder than some but seriously the constant repeating of this type of comment just becomes established 'fact' without any factual evidence to back it up.
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Man those Legendary Aust customs guys, i heard they train for 12 years with an oriental mind expert who teaches them the art of seeing without seeing. They have to walk down a rice paper carpet and tell when and what they are steeping on. They can also shuffle more than 100 letters at a time into different piles and tell you exactly whats in them. Their best secret art is the invisible customs letter that you get after a non delivery. Heard of one guy stopped a whole container of apples that were rotten and he was on his lunch break..... Pack it properly, send it and it arrives time and time again
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As far as facts to back up Australian customs toughness, well for one their own records show that they screen every single piece of international mail to some degree. This is not true of the US for example, they only claim to screen 100% of high risk packages (whatever that means), not 100% of all international mail. Second of all we can see anecdotal evidence in that packages to Australia have been intercepted that do not seem like packages that would likely be intercepted if they were going to USA. Is the claim that Australian customs are extremely tough partially propagated by people who have heard it and started to repeat it, without having any information to back this up with? Certainly. Are Australian customs likely some of the toughest? I think that they quite likely are. I don't think that many western countries screen 100% of incoming international mail, and I doubt that Australia has the amount of incoming mail that the US does, although I am not sure on the exact statistics. Ability to get things by customs is obviously going to depend on a few things. We can probably assume that the skill of the agents of most developed nations customs are nearly equal, although this may even be a stretch as the skills of police in other areas varies significantly. We can probably assume that they have similar equipment as well, and that they are bound by similar privacy laws. What it comes down to then is the amount of money they spend on customs and the amount of incoming packages. I think Australia spends more on customs, per package, than most countries do, although again I am not certain of this.
Really it is probably public record how much money is spent on customs and the number of incoming packages to a country. If we find that information I think we can have a more factually supported idea of which countries have the strictest customs.
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A preliminary search gives the following information, although for an even more accurate picture we would need to see exactly how they spend their customs money. Maybe I will search for more finely detailed information later. For now we will make the false assumption that all customs money is spent on mail and all people doing international inspections work on mail.
US Annual customs budget: ~$11.84 billion , ~21,180 employees who would potentially screen mail (not counting Mexican border patrol etc) , (best source I can find for international mail now was projected for 2004 , I know there are better sources out there but I don't have the time to hunt them down right now: https://about.usps.com/strategic-planning/cs02/2d.htm, .8 billion from USPS alone not counting other services, so 800 million). This means that the US spends roughly $14.8 of customs money per internationally shipped piece of mail. However, we need to keep in mind that a huge percentage of US customs money is spent on border patrol, judging from the employee distribution I think it is safe to estimate half of their money goes to this, leaving us with $7.4 perhaps. It also means that there is about one inspector per 37,771 pieces of international mail.
Australia customs budget : ~$1.13 billion, 5,674 employees (total, can't find fine grained details, but I doubt they have much of a border patrol, which makes up most of the rest of US customs), inspects 405,500 incoming international packages and 776,000 letters per week, 138 million incoming international mail items per year (source for last statistic was hard to find so putting here: http://www.daff.gov.au/aqis/mail) . This means that Australia spends about $8.19 cents on customs per every piece of international mail, and they have one inspector per 24,437 pieces of international mail. Keep in mind that this is not actually perfectly accurate as I don't have access to ultra detailed information atm.
well that is actually at odds with Australia customs statistics I have found in the past stating that 100% of all international mail is inspected. From this we can conclude that 61.44 million items of incoming international mail are inspected per year to Australia, where as they get 138 million international mail items per year. Maybe the inconsistency is because customs does not include letter mail in their report of the percentage of mail they inspect, I believe this may be the case. Something is obviously up though, as these numbers are at odds with the percentage of inspected mail records I can find (and have posted here before) from Australian customs sources.
Please keep in mind that these statistics are nearly worthless due to my current lack of ability to find detailed statistics. We would need to know the total number of customs employees specifically screening mail items, the total number of all incoming packages (which I could only find for Australia), to extrapolate the numbers to be recent for both (instead of one from an estimate for 2004 for USA), and lots of other things. This is not detailed information, and is just a quick thing I threw together to be able to form a basic idea for myself, or to see if there is a huge difference. In a nut shell, this is the result I came up with, again not using detailed enough information for this to be highly accurate , just a rough rough approximation:
US spends ~$7.4 per piece of incoming international mail, Australia spends $8.19 . As the input data was very rough and there is not a huge difference here, I think it is fair to guess that they probably spend essentially the same amount of money on customs checking mail per piece of international mail. Note that I cut the US amount in half in order to attempt to filter border patrol spending, but I did not do this with Australia. Although this certainly adds distortion, I think it will be minimal, as US likely spends vastly more customs money on border patrol than Australia does, and as their employee statistics show about half are employed with border patrol and not inspections.
US has 1 inspector per 37,771 pieces of incoming mail, Australia has 1 per 24,437 pieces of incoming mail. Please note that I was able to find decently fine grained information regarding the number of US customs agents who work inspecting incoming items, but not for Australia. When this is factored in, the numbers will certainly be closer together.
Anyway I just want to reiterate one more time that these numbers are not going to be very high quality, and that I was mainly looking for a sharp difference between the two that would indicate one spends far more resources on mail customs than the other. As I did not find a sharp difference, it may indicate that they spend roughly the same amount of resources on this. But as there was not a sharp difference between the two with the information I was able to find, I would say that this is inconclusive. Please help me find up to date statistics on these things , and as fine grained as possible, so we can come to a more conclusive finding.
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Australian customs claim they inspect all international mail, either visually, with canine detection or a scanner.
If a letter shipment is prepared correctly using non vapor permeable methods (i.e. dog proof) then what do you think the chances are of them putting it through a scanner? I'd say approximately nil.
Step it up vendors and the seizure rates will drop off significantly.
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Australian customs claim they inspect all international mail, either visually, with canine detection or a scanner.
If a letter shipment is prepared correctly using non vapor permeable methods (i.e. dog proof) then what do you think the chances are of them putting it through a scanner? I'd say approximately nil.
Step it up vendors and the seizure rates will drop off significantly.
Boom Shanka Boom Boom Balay! I love it when so few words say it so clearly. Hope vendors are seeing your true words.
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Australian customs claim they inspect all international mail, either visually, with canine detection or a scanner.
If a letter shipment is prepared correctly using non vapor permeable methods (i.e. dog proof) then what do you think the chances are of them putting it through a scanner? I'd say approximately nil.
Step it up vendors and the seizure rates will drop off significantly.
Needed to be quoted again!
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Australian customs claim they inspect all international mail, either visually, with canine detection or a scanner.
If a letter shipment is prepared correctly using non vapor permeable methods (i.e. dog proof) then what do you think the chances are of them putting it through a scanner? I'd say approximately nil.
Step it up vendors and the seizure rates will drop off significantly.
This is so true! What I've been saying too, is that if the package does not smell or look really suspicious, there's practically no chance it will be scanned.
And at least in our country, if a customs person want to see whats in your delivery(they do random checks sometimes, it has happened 1 time to me and I order stuff abroad all the time, been doing that for over 5 years, so it's really rare) they have to call you in and open the letter/package with your presence, I'm not quite sure, if it was me who had to open the box.
BTW. that time it was hashbags I ordered from Canada. The customs person asked me what they were, so I quickly made up that they are for extracting essential oils out of plant material. I think that was even telling the truth? I think i had read that just for a week or so before this happened.
Yesterday I talked about this smellproof packaging in a finnish forum, told people to start pressuring their vendors to begin using this type of packaging, what I got for an answer was: "there's no such thing as a smellproof bag". That is of course true, but I linked a page about MBB's and hopefully they get it doesn't have 100% smellproof for years and starts to demand a good service.
Not so long ago, I linked the sticky thread to a highly esteemed vendor and asked if he had read that "begging" him to start using dog proof bags(I just had ordered a gram of #4 heroin from him, which never came) so that I could take a reship and get my order safely. He/she replied to me saying: "hmmm i have a success rate of 95 % so i think thats quite ok ".
What do you people think of that? I think it's quite ok too, but for sure it wouldn't be enough for me, I would be thinking "Damn, out of those 5%, maybe 4% got seized by the customs, I gotta increase my customers safety somehow..." Would you be happy with that and stop increasing your stealth? I think that was quite arragant too, i'm waiting for customs/police to my house(yes, I think it will happen cause i'm in Finland and have some history with drugs) so that was kind of a bummer to hear.
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Vote with your bit coins I say and only buy from vendors using safe methods, the more people who start doing that the more vendors will be incentivised to make the change.
It is still quite early days, my sticky only went up a few weeks ago so it will take a while for the word to spread amongst vendors and buyers alike. I've suggested buyers start to mention the non use of safe non permeable packaging in their feedback both on the main site and the forums including a post to the sticky as this will help to inform others and hopefully increase the uptake of using MBB's etc.
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Vote with your bit coins I say and only buy from vendors using safe methods, the more people who start doing that the more vendors will be incentivised to make the change.
It is still quite early days, my sticky only went up a few weeks ago so it will take a while for the word to spread amongst vendors and buyers alike. I've suggested buyers start to mention the non use of safe non permeable packaging in their feedback both on the main site and the forums including a post to the sticky as this will help to inform others and hopefully increase the uptake of using MBB's etc.
It's thanks to your sticky that I've been stockpiling MBBs of various sizes for when I start selling on here ;)
Out of curiosity, would you think that vac bagging is necessary in addition to a MBB or is ziplock/MBB likely to pass scrutiny?
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Vote with your bit coins I say and only buy from vendors using safe methods, the more people who start doing that the more vendors will be incentivised to make the change.
It is still quite early days, my sticky only went up a few weeks ago so it will take a while for the word to spread amongst vendors and buyers alike. I've suggested buyers start to mention the non use of safe non permeable packaging in their feedback both on the main site and the forums including a post to the sticky as this will help to inform others and hopefully increase the uptake of using MBB's etc.
It's thanks to your sticky that I've been stockpiling MBBs of various sizes for when I start selling on here ;)
Out of curiosity, would you think that vac bagging is necessary in addition to a MBB or is ziplock/MBB likely to pass scrutiny?
It is really important to ensure all traces of residue are removed so if you vac seal once you can clean that thoroughly before putting in into the non permeable layer. You also need to ensure everything is prepared as FLAT AS POSSIBLE, any 'bulges' in the letter can draw attention and result in it being singled out for extra attention. I suppose providing you clean the MBB to remove all residue then the first vac seal may be overkill. Have a play around with various techniques and see how flat you can get it and go with the best option I guess.
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Out of my 40+ orders including both domestic and shipped, only one has not turned up. Pretty sure the UK is a good place to live in terms of SR orders. :)
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Vote with your bit coins I say and only buy from vendors using safe methods, the more people who start doing that the more vendors will be incentivised to make the change.
This is hard though because nobody on the forums is willing to share information on who ships well through fear of profiling or just general paranoia, hence you are forced to go through a trial and error process to find the right vendor.... plus vendors come & go, some packages get through via dumb luck, then other vendors with good packaging methods occasionally selectively scam...
This shit is getting all too hard!
Think this thread is now officially hi-jacked into another "improve your packaging methods" thread....
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It's also pretty obvious when you are the top 5% vendor rating it doesn't matter if you are in a safe country or not, they are likely going to flag that country. Feds watch SR like football. If the top vendor is shipping huge bulk from UK, you can bet UK shipments will start being looked at more.
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Why does NL to USA shipping times take a month sometimes?
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Just speaking here for the UK but I know for a fact that Royal Mail are a piece of shit when it comes to finding drugs. Honestly, they are completely shit at it. Not because of incompetence, but because of money and delay issues.
No domestic post is ever checked, AT ALL, unless it is being flown from one end of the country to another.
And international stuff is usually given the most cursory of xrays, and if dogs are brought in they only check a small amount of post. Honestly I've had stuff come in the shoddiest packaging I've ever seen, from the Netherlands, and still got through.
I'd say that getting stuff into the UK is probably one of the easiest countries to do it with. The people at the royal mail that do look for drugs are typically looking for those big 10kg coke shipments that are disguised as protein powder. Or the guy that puts 50kg of hash inside some used car parts and tries to ship them in from Morocco. If you are doing something like an oz of weed, and it's vac sealed, and then heat sealed in foil bags - there is practically 0% chance of it getting seized. On an xray this looks exactly the same as a food product. Now if you throw in a fake receipt and some corporate looking postage labels then you're set.
Ultimately that's why the Royal mail is so reliable and usually pretty quick. Now let's just pray to god that they continue to be overworked, so there's no chance of them increasing their drug detection practices.
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just based on the domestic stuff that's available to people from uk and the rate of international stuff coming through, i must say i'm quite jealous of you guys over there.. :'(
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did any of you guys hear about this, they must have been tracking this guy for awhile..
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-02/01/silk-road-crackdown
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no but i do feel a little dumber having read it now.
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no but i do feel a little dumber having read it now.
I did have to laugh at the final sentence after all the usual "blah blah blah we are one step ahead, be afraid! you will be caught bullshit.
"However, despite all of these investigations, the conviction rate isn't looking all that promising for law enforcement."
Fuck the police.
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I wonder what process goes into forensically analyzing text messages
He must of left them all on his phone and not deleted any messages?
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I wonder what process goes into forensically analyzing text messages
He must of left them all on his phone and not deleted any messages?
Probably not in this case but it wouldn't have made any difference anyway, the police can access your entire phone record without any trouble whatsoever if they can link the phone/sim to you.
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omg i saw SNITCH tonight with the fucking ROCK.........
DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED. It had a somewhat SRish veil in the beginning of the movie when a young innocent white kid gets molly mailed to him and has to do a mandatory minimum sentence which results in his face getting less pretty while locked up thus prompting the rock to go underground into the black and latin syndicates to target the bad guys and protect his naive son.
Watching that movie actually confirms my suspicion that there is nothing LE can do about SR if it's anything positive about it.
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omg i saw SNITCH tonight with the fucking ROCK.........
DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED. It had a somewhat SRish veil in the beginning of the movie when a young innocent white kid gets molly mailed to him and has to do a mandatory minimum sentence which results in his face getting less pretty while locked up thus prompting the rock to go underground into the black and latin syndicates to target the bad guys and protect his naive son.
Watching that movie actually confirms my suspicion that there is nothing LE can do about SR if it's anything positive about it.
You really watched a movie with the Rock in it? I didn't think anyone actually did that ;)
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omg man tell me about it I was suspicous to begin with, I normally don't engage in paying to see dwayne johnson in theater ($11 a ticket and $20 for snacks to clog my arteries) but I went to spend quality time with a friend. I normally never go to movies and don't have cable tv or watch it. im telling you though, the SR satire was A+ filth at its best
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But did he use the 'peoples elbow' on one of the bad guys?
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i kept getting a mixture of disturbance and annoyance from the fellow movie goers.....everytime he picked up his phone I would be like "Yo hulk it's the rock we've got a situation" being stoned and drunk made it more tolerable.
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I hear a lot of people talking about Australia being strict an all but as a vendor myself i had until now no issue with sending order to Australia and im from holland. I think the packaging plays a big roll. It should be not notable between other mail. With bulks i have no experience yet maybe it will less easier but never impossible :)