One last little nibble... Raz it is clear as day you are intentionally trying to manipulate opinion and create a perception in others regarding a number of things so I thought I should draw your attention to some non fuzzy facts. No one is denigrating Libertas despite your numerous assertions that someone is, the only person posting this is you. I for one am very happy to see them come on board and they are doing an outstanding job. Using the age only tactic of ridiculing what someone has to say to discredit them doesn't change the validity of the message. It is if you don't mind me saying rather disingenuous of you to assert that certain opinions are conspiracy theories when you yourself claim to know who is running shill accounts and going around dishing out the negs every 72 hours, which if you read my posts is precisely what I have said. How about we leave it there