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« on: February 08, 2013, 11:54 pm »
For some time now I have been trying to draw attention in the forums to improved shipping and stealth standards that if used correctly actually BEAT canine detection, yes that's right dog proof!
Well I hear you say, surely if there is a CHEAP and EASY option then why are not all vendors using these methods and you know what I cannot fathom why they are not either.
>>> WAKE UP CALL --- FOOD GRADE PE VAC SEALING IS VAPOR PERMEABLE AND DETECTABLE IN FIFTEEN MINUTES <<<
Even triple sealing permeates in a few days so clearly when shipping to countries like Australia when items can be in transit for anything up to 20+ days vendors need to up their game and improve their standards.
So what is the answer? well happily there are a number of options available right now, in fact some vendors on SR are already selling them, see the links below:
PlutoPete
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/3e10560aef
Quality4All
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f05b9427cd
All you need to know are:
* MBB - moisture barrier bags
* Mylar bags
* Heat seal foil bags
Some sources for these products I have found previously posted by vendor FarmerBob are listed below (CLEAR NET):
http://www.qsource.com/s-40-3m-scc-dri-shield-3000-moisture-barrier-bags.aspx (large bags $100 - 100 pack) You can cut/seal 2 or three small bags from each large bag.
http://www.qsource.com/s-39-3m-scc-dri-shield-2000-moisture-barrier-bags.aspx (the 3.6 mil bags are OK, cheaper, smaller, $13 per hundred)
Alternate suppliers:
http://www.moisturebarrierbags.com/index.html
http://texastechnologies.com/moisture-control/moisture-barrier-bag/dri-shield-3000.htm
It has also been brought to my attention that caution should be exercised when sourcing these materials to ensure the sale cannot be traced back to you
Discussion on this topic has been going on for several months across several other threads, for anyone interested please read:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33755.0;topicseen
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=94730.0
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95908.0
A non permeable layer must be included, for example when shipping small quantities of powders the layering can consist of a few variations, it may be a good idea to dispense with the zip lock baggy as the zip can be felt through the envelope. The use of double MBB cleaning each thoroughly with isotropic alcohol to remove any particle traces is one very effective method. The final stage must of course be done in a clean environment to avoid transferring any particle residue to the outer packaging, wear gloves and discard before completing this stage.
The best stealth is sometimes the simplest, envelopes must be as flat as possible with all the usual norms that make them blend into the thousands of others going through the system. If an envelope is singled out for extra attention it's gone, that usually only happens when a dog reacts to it.
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VENDORS ALREADY USING THESE METHODS ARE LISTED BELOW
>>> Please note that the vendors listed below are done so solely on their use of non permeable stealth packaging techniques as advised by the vendor. No other factors have been considered at this time so you are strongly encouraged to fully research any vendor before placing an order <<<
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NW Nugz (get's first spot because they were the first to be listed)
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/6dec1f7750
Forum Review Page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=116945.0
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4sale
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/4f6ee73a39
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Angel Eyes
Vendor Page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2a8a111331
Forum review page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=131843.0
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ashylarry
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f85784d8b0
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BashfulBetty
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/4283a3a09e
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Best Dutch Drugs
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/1e693bb8b3
Forum review page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;u=54207
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Budworx UK
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/bd9b2bd948
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Bungee54
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/12c290570e
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Burning Babylon
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/bb9a215445
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caman
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/7adf039b37
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CannabisKing
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/49e60653d7
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Cork1Screw
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/11e4008097
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Countdown2013
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a2af6de8b7
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Cyanspore
Vendor Page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/79c30e564a
Forum review page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=137891.0
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DrCol
Vendor Page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9c606585a7
Forum review page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=162399.0
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Express Connect
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/e867ef394c
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farmer1
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/4d6b278a41
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ForeverJung
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/503d93d76d
Forum review page: dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=140870
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Ganja Man
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/8633f6fb24
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globalshipping
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d842b8827e
Forum review page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=31695.0
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Goldust
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/cff5ec83b8
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ItalianMafiaBrussels
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/57e4e49d72
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jerseycow
Vendor Page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/b8e2078ce1
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KingoftheTrill
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/501ad082ff
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Lloydsbrothers
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/7e623cc4ba
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Love
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/885c2e06ab
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MaidMandy
Vendor Page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2c851dc401
Forum review page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90329.0
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MainStay
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/449d4f916e
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MDUK
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/53909a1737
Forum review page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=125682
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Mendohashman
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a3e97805b2
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MedicalM
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/6f5e106996
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NorCalKing (NCK) has been using these methods for 9 months and like their vendor page states "Our shit doesn't stink, once we pack it!"
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2877098b49
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NW Nugz
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/6dec1f7750
Forum review page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=116945.0
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purptree4me
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/bfbdfedfb8
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PlutoPete
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/32fb08c984
The best packaging solution by far: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/3e10560aef
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Realdeals
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/11897f24a2
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rinran
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/84b3c02452
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reich
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d1bc04e932
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SealTeam6
Vendor page:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/12a6b39cb9
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SimplyTheBest
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/1c67dc53ec
Forum review page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=126593.0
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subtickle
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/aea5f26b5a
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Synthiotics
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/569df4e44b
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TheCompany
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/13ab57a20f
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WeBeWeedGirls
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/448f6e9f5b
Review thread: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=162472.msg1155407
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White Shark
Vendor Page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/57099b533e
Forum review page: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=67348.30
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XXXotica
Vendor Page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/1610b34961
Review Thread: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=103388.0
FREE SAMPLE THREAD: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=132629.0
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HOW IS MAIL SORTED
When planning your packaging, take into consideration this procedure which is not specific to a particular country (only applies for letters not parcels) -
1. Mail arrives into said country in a big sack containing hundreds/thousands of letters.
2. If arriving from a "flagged" country it's directed to sorting area A in which mail undergoes extra scrutiny, if from non-flagged country it's directed to sorting area B for normal manual sorting.
3. At the designated sorting area, all the mail is poured onto a sorting tray and manually sorted, with the sorter removing anything that's oversize, damaged or suspicious looking (again there would be guidelines the sorters follow based on profiling and gathered intelligence). Over-sized items are sent to the parcel area, damaged items are repaired or destroyed and suspicious letters are inspected further (manual, x-ray or dog)
4. Once manual sorting is done, the mail is sent down a conveyor belt to the automatic sorting machine, while going down the conveyor belt, a drug detection dog runs over all mail heading down and alerts to letters containing whatever the dog is trained to find, these are in turn removed for further inspection (manual or x-ray) the rest carry on to the machine and are sent for distribution around the country.
5. Any mail that can't be automatically sorted for distribution (usually due to addresses in the wrong format, hand written messily, too thick to fit etc) are manually sorted again.
So using the above information, one case see that the risk areas are - the country of origin, the initial manual sorter, the drug detection dog and the final automatic sorting machine.
Country of Origin - The intelligence on which particular countries the receiving country has "flagged' isn't made publicly available but one could assume they include - The Netherlands, Belgium, Colombia, Bolivia, Peru, China, Vietnam, Thailand among others. As well as countries added based on intelligence received and profiling.
Initial Mail Sorter - Has to manually sort hundreds of letters at once, so make sure your letter doesn't attract a second glimpse. Ensure you use a high quality envelope, not a cheap one that's thin and soft and likely to tear. Ensure it looks harmless and boring from the outside, and ensure it's as thin as possible and packaged so the contents cannot be felt if handled and so that if handled, it feels like paper inside, not a foil bag!
Drug detection dog - USE MOISTURE BARRIER BAGS! PE and Foil layered are the best, followed by PE and Mylar. You should be doing your packaging in a clean environment because if any molecules from your product end up on the outside of that bag or on the envelope, you've wasted your time and it will be detected.
Final Automatic Sorting Machine - Make sure the address is clearly readable and in the correct format for that country. Make sure your envelope is of a standard size. (see the first post of this thread for standard envelope sizes)
Use the above information and create your letters how you wish, if you still get any no-shows to a particular country, change what your letters look like because your current ones have been photographed and added to a database. This includes the return address and any identifiable logos etc.
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HOW TO ENSURE YOUR MAIL GOES THROUGH THE SORTING MACHINES WITHOUT NEEDING TO BE SORTED MANUALLY BY ONE OF THOSE PESKY HUMANS (AU SPECIFIC)
The info below is taken from the Australia Post guidelines for international mail, and they're based around the specs required for mail to go into the auto sorter machines, if a letter falls outside of these guidelines, there's a much bigger chance it will end up being manually sorted by a person. (when you receive a letter than doesn't have one of those faint orange barcodes on it, it means its been manually sorted. This doesn't apply to bulk mail that big companies send out to 1000's of people though)
Recommended Envelope Sizes and Max Weight and thickness -
Small Letter -
DL 110 mm × 220 mm 125g max
C6 114 mm × 162 mm 125g max
No more than 5mm thick
Large Letter -
C5 162 mm × 229 mm 125g max
C4 324 mm × 229 mm 250g max
B4 353 mm × 250 mm 250g max
No more than 20mm thick
Envelope Quality - White 100gsm Paper
Address Font - Courier or Helvetica Font - 12 point or 10 pitch
It should contain no full stops or commas or other punctuation. You can use '/' but it's recommended not to.
There should be no advertising/logos etc near the address.
The street number should be 2 spaces away from the unit/suite number
The suburb and country should be in capitals
The post code should be 2 spaces away from the state
Characters should be between 2mm & 4mm tall
and between 0.3mm & 7mm wide
The space between lines from 1mm to 2.5mm
Address example -
John Smith
Suite 10 52 Silk Road
PORT HEADLAND WA 3001
AUSTRALIA
Some of these things are going to the extreme and probably not necessary, besides, the huge majority of orders make it without any issues anyway but if you want perfection, this is where it's at.
Guideline books (see these for the correct address layouts and where stamps, addresses and logos etc should/shouldn't be placed. -
http://auspost.com.au/media/documents/letter-post-guide.pdf
http://auspost.com.au/media/documents/international-post-guide.pdf
Educational video about the mail process (clearnet) -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WumR2qpqP8
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***UPDATED 22nd FEB 13***
It's great to see this picking up up some momentum and kudos to those vendors who have already started to implement changes to their packaging techniques, as I said previously it is a win win situation for both vendors and buyers alike at no real extra cost.
I have been giving a lot of thought as to how to motivate and support more vendors to make the change as I do appreciate change processes generally don't just happen without a catalyst which in the market place is custom demand.
To help get the message out there I am now mentioning the non use of a non permeable layer in all my feedback and reviews on the forums. If everyone started to do that then it would really help to raise vendors awareness as well as educating buyers.
I would encourage everyone else to start doing the same, so lets see how that goes for a few weeks because I have more ideas on how to push this forward but they may not make me very popular ;-)
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(thanks to international vendor NoStress - you rock dude - recommend his 1g barney farms vanilla kush delivered for $30 - update: he's out of the kush, but i still recommend it when he has it)
