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Doesn't sound like a vendor I would be using mate 

I tend to not buy from vendors who do not respond to PM's and if others are calling them a scammer why would you risk it? better to buy from a different vendor, I mean come on your in Canada right! you have plenty of options ya lucky fucker! 

b-rock you are a fucking crack up!

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thats right BITCH you best be waiting for a while

you get what you deserve when you forget yur pin

just be chill hang low and itll all work out, sr has got yo back....BITCH!!

rock la familia
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Troll extraordinaire, lol

Glad you got it resolved.

Thread locked.

This is the longest running saga that went no where ever.

How many people ever received anything? half a dozen? and how many of those last reships never made it, or lets call it WERE NEVER SENT?

There I said it, sorry but the Colombian mail service ain't that spectacular, I think only 1 got through last time if you believe the hype.

Ahhhh that's better, Ive been sat on saying that for months now.

Quote from: Dicko456 on March 29, 2013, 10:27 am

Quote from: mdmafx on March 29, 2013, 04:55 am

Just posting this about a new vendor Operatorlease. I noticed a few strange goings on in the LSD domestic section and posted the below questions in his thread just on the off chance that he is a scammer or ETM reincarnation (not saying he is but being cautious). Re posting here in-case he deletes the thread.
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Can I ask why you have had a vendor account for 7months but have only just started posting or listing any product ? In fact it may just be a weird coincidence but two other new LSD vendors have just popped up also having accounts opened exactly 7 months ago.
TheKandyMan - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/dadf351ca2
Kensebben - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/fc54f6362a
Also how do you know your tabs are 150UG, have you had them tested? Finaly it would be a good idea to post your username alongside a picture of your product instead of a generic pic

Sorry to ask the hard questions but after the recent events thing need to be clarified.

It is ETM for sure. The marketing and pictures all reak of him.

Hopefully the fucker will stay off the forums this time and just trade in the quiet.

Dicko

If I was a vendor and did a massive scam and wanted to open a new SR account, I would be smart enough to make sure nothing is similar to my old vendor account. I'm pretty sure most people would think about this too. I doubt it is the same person at ETM. If ETM opens a new account, it would be one of the ones that you would least suspect. They probably had 2 accounts running before they did the scam anyway, so it looks like they are not the same person.

Also, I think ETM made enough money and have finished for good.

No offense but clearly you do not know how many vendors operate on SR, there are many current top rated vendors who have previously gone rogue and scammed. They then they come back and reinvent themselves and because most people on here have the attention span of a retarded goldfish they carry on like nothing ever happened until they decide to pull the same scam all over again.

Whether these new AU vendors are ETM or ETM associates we shall never know, people will buy from them irrespectively because they don't know or don't care.

The games out there, play or be played - never a truer word posted by a vendor.

Quote from: DivineMomentsofTruth on February 23, 2013, 03:46 pm

Maybe I'm a bit paranoid and have nothing to worry about but...it freaked me out...I'm really not happy with the vendor either about this...although the tear was not there fault why wouldn't they tape the sides like every other fucking weed vendor?

Probably because taped sides are a flag.

Some of the complaints in this thread seem somewhat unfounded to me. Standard stealth shipping has always been printed labels, flat as possible / small as possible container, vacuum sealed product (sometimes in two or three bags). I am sure it can be improved upon some, most notably with less permeable vacuum seal bags, but if you are complaining about getting a few grams of powder shipped to you vacuum sealed between two sheets of paper in a priority mail envelope, you are really setting a higher standard than has ever been the the case. I have gotten international packages that consisted of powder dumped into heavily taped cardboard envelopes , that sounded like baby rattles when shaken , from the  powder bouncing around all over the damn place. That is horrible shipping. Vacuum sealed flat in an inconspicuous envelope between two sheets of paper? What more could you really ask for other than that better bags are used perhaps?

I note someone in this thread mentioned he thinks his package was seized because it was express shipped. This is very possible, in my experience I have seen far more express packages intercepted than anything else. Especially international overnight shipped packages are inspected in high percentages I think. Fast shipping is also a known flag for drug packages, the faster the shipping method is the more likely LE are to think the package is suspect and inspect it. Slower shipping has problems as well, like being in the mail system for longer, but I am actually pretty positive that slower shipping is less likely to lead to an interception. Maybe somewhere in the middle is best , but overnight definitely is the worst.

Moisture barrier bags look like they all have metal foil on them. In general I would avoid shipping anything with metal foil on it if it can be avoided, I suspect packages containing metal are more likely to be inspected actually. I will need to read the thread about vacuum sealed bags first I suppose, but my initial thought is certainly that something creating a vacuum is far less likely to have scent permeate it than something without a vacuum. I also recall there was another vacuum sealing thread where someone with a drug dog tested several packages with different sorts of drugs, and the time spans for detectable permeation ranged from many hours to days, increasing substantially with each added layer of vacuum bag. Another technique I have heard people suggest is vacuum sealing the product in one bag, filling another vacuum seal bag with activated charcoal and then vacuum sealing it around the first bag. I have no idea if this is effective at preventing scent from permeating through all the layers or not, but I am positive it is effective at making the package weigh more. The more a package weighs the more likely it is to be inspected, weight is actually one of the most likely things to get a package selected for inspection. They are more interested in stopping big shipments of drugs than personal use amounts, and big shipments of drugs weigh more so of course they are going to be more likely to inspect a package if it weighs more. This makes me apprehensive about doing anything that will substantially increase the weight of a package, unless it is already quite heavy I suppose. Also, I have read in several profiling papers on drug dealers that the most sophisticated dealers vacuum seal their packages to prevent detection, it seems that if the most elite drug trafficking groups are using vacuum sealing that it is a legitimate technique, I have never heard of them using foil bags but I do have citations that they utilize mathematical / physics formulas to determine how long it will take for the scent to permeate their bags, to make sure their product is undetectable for the entire time it is in transit.

So pretty much I think we should take the utmost caution when it comes to changing standard procedure for packaging things. Is there room for improvement? Certainly. There are all kinds of cool techniques as well, for example making pottery out of ketamine and then smashing it to bits and extracting it on the other end. People have done this with coke and they were busted because dogs could smell it , but for ketamine it may be a great way to move bulk. Vendors should really take care to change up their shipping methods somewhat as well, because they want to avoid being profiled. It is also really important for bothvendor and customer to understand the intelligence risk of checking tracking with proxy services, and weigh it against the benefits, and think of solutions that will work for them (checking tracking from home without a proxy is generally a BAD idea, but imo it is generally a bad idea to get shit sent to your house in the first place. Checking tracking with Tor from home on a package that is being sent to your home, is quite likely more dangerous than checking tracking without Tor on a package that is being sent to your home). Also a worry is that vendors use tracking stickers with sequential labels, and that an intercept of a single package sent out could lead to sequential serial numbers being flagged as well.

You should probably go and read the other threads on MBB, mylar and heat seal foil before posting mate, no offense but an informed opinion is always better than a subjective one.

As you correctly stated though the best stealth is simple, thin and lightweight so if you are ordering smallish quantities of powders you want the packaging to draw the least amount of attention and have the layering have the lowest MVTR as possible, something you only get with a non permeable layer like a MBB. You could try and use 3 layers of vac seal but why make it thicker, more bulky for the sake of using an inferior material when you can sling the zip lock baggy into an MBB or heat seal foil bag and have an MVTR of 0.00002.

If the envelope is singled out for extra attention e.g. scanner / x-ray then its gone anyway so your best chances are to avoid being singled out in the first place and that normally only ever happens when a dog reacts to it.

Vac seal is outdated and doesn't work as effectively as other methods, that is fact not fud.