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Quote from: Wadozo on June 20, 2013, 11:18 am

Quote from: geeza23 on June 20, 2013, 05:40 am

Quote from: Wadozo on June 20, 2013, 04:48 am

Firstly, there will ALWAYS be some users, not just Aussie's but user's Worldwide, who FE for a vendor, regardless of what anyone does or says. The point has been made that this vendor is a scammer and that's all you can do. If buyers aren't smart enough to use the Forum before making a purchase and do a little research or worse still, FE for ANY vendor, especially local ones, they have no one to blame but themselves." You can lead a horse to water but you can't make em' drink". Any buyer who doesn't check out the Forum, especially prior to making a purchase, is as silly as a duck!

agreed, while I think its great that we are so protective of users that we keep warning them not to FE and give plenty of heads up, sometimes I also think there's only so much you can do and let's face it at the end of the day some people are just too lazy/ or for whatever reasons chooses not to do a bit more due diligence and go ahead to FE. Part of me thinks that learning a lesson the hard way tends to make it more memorable and it'll also sting more, and maybe they'll think twice before finalising early the next time.

Exactly geeza23. Sometimes learning a lesson the hard way is what's needed for the message to get through.    I do think that there are a lot of uninitiated buyers who are totally oblivious to the pitfalls and perils of the internet drug scene. There is so much to learn and take in. It's been around for 10+ years already, way before SR became a "household" name.  For some buyers, it can be overwhelming.
I do find it amusing though at the amount of buyers willing to pay anonymous people loads of their hard earned cash (BTC's) for an illegal product listed on a black market run off a Tor Hidden Service on the Hidden Web.  There is also the misconception of using the word "trust" on SR. I can't see how a buyer could trust a vendor, someone you know absolutely nothing about and vice versa?? You might want to trust a vendor and the online persona they project to their customers but that's all it is, a persona. I'm not saying that vendors are not trust worthy, not at all. All I'm saying is with the nature of this business, where maintaining your anonymity is of paramount importance, nobody knows anyone and never will. I will refrain from trusting ANYBODY. I certainly have an opinion and get a sense of a vendor through their actions, messages and service, but that's as far as it goes for me. I can still like someone and converse with them without having to trust them. It's just common sense to not "trust"people here. IMO, to do so is to let your guard down and allow people an opportunity to exploit your "trusting nature".
WingWong is spot on about using some common sense. The only problem with that though is common sense isn't too common anymore!!
I have to agree with you Dingo about the low number of SR buyers who use the Forum. It just illustrates the small percentage of SR users who actually read through the SR WIKI, including the Buyer (and Seller) Guidelines set out by DPR to help minimize mistakes and maximize your buying experience. You only have to read "A few words from the Dread Pirate Roberts" on the SR Homepage to know where to look for more info. and where to start. I suspect not many people take the time to read his/her basic introduction though. 

I hear it all the time: people who have either jumped on, bought from the first cheap buyer they see and been scammed, or have a FOAF who has, and they tell me that the whole place is a scam. They know so, and have pity for me as a journo for being fooled In to thinking its real. Apparently I'm the naive one

Pine is correct. The vast majority of buyers do not visit the forums.

Heads up there is likely to be some hysterical publicity on the way. I've been contacted in the past week by both 60 Minutes and Today Tonight to comment on stories about SR. I think they are about kids buying synths on the web and ODing  (not sure as I declined both)

Quote from: samesamebutdifferent on June 20, 2013, 11:59 am

As a new vendor BeepBeep expect to attract some individuals who will try it on and threaten you with bad feedback unless you cave into their demands. It might hurt your stats but I know from speaking to other vendors you need to stand firm and if the tracking says delivered then that's an end to the matter.

How does staff get the confirmation without having access to the address? Seems like it would be a way for LE (who may be staff) to get the addy of the buyer?

I always wanted one of those skulls. Those are badass. Random, but badass.

Hi all,

@ Bugzee you posted in another thread about this. WW will come back and evt. accept the resolution. So you'll have your money back, but your stats will be affected. Yes, he is that a lowlife.
@ Samesamebutdifferent I asked you in the other thread about WW being a scammer, whether you took a moment of your time to read his profile. Obviously you didn't, neither before, nor after you replied an C/P BS answer, as I called it in the other thread. Your serving this vague reply exactly a day after your previous reply in the other thread. Do you really think this is of help to anyone? Again, the issue here is that SR doesn't do shit about the known fact he is a scammer.  Don't you feel you should have done a little research prior to replying (twice)? Ain't scamming not a sufficiently grave accusation? WTF.
How about you spared a moment of your time now? Even if you couldn't do anything about it (I dunno how SR works in that regard), you'd, at least have a documented and solid personal opinion about it. How about two minutes of your life so not to look like a lazy and  careless wanker to everyone being scammed right NOW?

Cheers
Jason