Wow this vendor sounds like a tosser?
Is it just me, or are percentages just meaningless these days?
you were trying to help him by telling him his percentages he was quoting was obviously fake, as its chemically impossible, and he jumps down your throat
Great marketing strategy, make yourself out to be a total bell end with the MDMA avengers spokesperson when asked to qualify their physics defying claims.
GemStoneMarket = epic fail
@moksha: You cannot honestly say that this wasn't a baiting tactic. This transcript seems remarkably incomplete and I have a feeling if you were to post the messages you sent, they would turn out to be somewhat childish as well.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending this vendor, nor is this a personal attack, but this post seems less like you exposing a dishonest vendor, and more like a bunch of kids making fun of the class dunce. I may be reading the situation like this only due to SSBD and Gus' replies, but I had already formed this line of thought before seeing them so I doubt it.
@SSBD: Yes, the vendor is obviously a tosser, however percentages have been completely fucking worthless since the first time someone decided to try to use them to represent their product's purity on the road.
We all know that any quantitative claim of purity used by ANY vendor regarding their product has absolutely no chance of being legitimate. I've bitched about it several times during my first few months on the road, but it's an unchangeable facet of the road that you almost certainly know of yourself.
Just because some vendor fucked up from not being 'in the know' in regards to how the dutch labs calculate purity, doesn't make this tosser any different to the other 90 tossers advertising their 84% MDMA, or their "fishscale" cocaine who have retained their perfect/near perfect vendor rating merely due to it being "normal" for vendors to lie through their asses.
Here's a tip to vendors who want to claim 99% purity:(Based on the total weight including the salt, so I'm referring to the 84% MDMA, and the 72% amphetamine claims)
-Actual LR/AR grade chemicals will make defined crystalline structures. If you try to claim pure product, and throw up a picture of an amorphorous powder, anyone with even a high school education in chemistry will realize you are full of shit.(Exception to this is certain racemic compounds where the isomers cannot form an absolute complex with their racemates)
-Any variation in colour or consistancy that can be detected from causal observation is indicative of impurities to the extent that it can be said with confidence that the product is below 90% purity(or 76% by the dutch standards of MDMA) People know this, but they probably don't realize the extent to which variability can be used as an indicator of purity. Any MDMA that is not easily recognisable as a crystalline structure is not even approaching 84% purity.
@Gus: Given the inaccurate and disorganized procedures used by the MDMA avengers to give a "purity" rating to each vendor, I actually agree with this specific vendor's opinions on the group. No offense to them, but they are being more misleading than he is. At least people outright know he's full of shit, the avengers have an air of legitimacy to them which the transgression much worse IMO.
I do not pay any attention to the purported purity claims of any vendor on SR because they are for the most part utter BS. There are however many others who are seduced by these claims so whether moksha baited them or not I applaud them calling them out. I cannot comment on the mdma avengers washing processes, I have read your posts and you seem infinitely more informed on the subject than I but it is high time we challenged some of these ridiculous claims being made.
A few weeks ago I was sent ... are you ready for it ... 87% pure cocaine! yes that's right 87%!!! wow how amazing, it was weak as shit and I was told that I clearly didn't know what real coke was and that I should cut it to make it stronger, something I just laughed at.
If a vendor cannot respond without acting like a fucking child to what is essentially valid questions then they should have a rethink of what they are doing, it is high time the buyers started to hold vendors accountable for the claims they make because too often those claims are far from accurate.
ssbd