I will gladly debate with you about this. Though you need to try and learn the "Quote" system in writing a post as without it...it is very hard to read. But I think you should know what I am talking about before you debate me. I have my opinion on this for 17 months. And when I say "pgp is worthless" I am only talking about, in the context of putting your address on the order form. That's it! Also, as I will do with you, if you disagree with me on a point, then please address that exact point. I will of course do the same. Also be honest. Do not make up things. I mean you kind of already made some things up...but I will let it slide. I am referring to you saying This is laughable! By "decent" do you mean they didn't at all? Please tell me where Astor and StExo proved me wrong!!! It never happened. Actually most people in the tread agreed with me. This is a fact. And both Astor and StExo left the tread. I believe Astor only made one post where he quoted me and then had a response for what I said. You should really read it again. he didn't prove anything. As to StExo I can not even remember what he wrote. But again he in no way proved me wrong. So though you lied in here..or at the very least used poor wording..I will let it slide. Also what must be pointed out is that I am not paranoid. I do not think that every time SR go's down that the FBI has taken it over. These guys do. If you are going to try and debate me...then stick with facts..and not what if's, or could have's. Stick to real life, real time., actual events. I will do the same. You can see even in this thread....A troll is the one person that say's something negative about me...Fittesaft. This is a guy that has 30 negative Karma and 2 positive. Also he says nothing other then I sound like a moron. If you want to go through the thread you are referencing earlier...you should see how many people agree with me...and how many agree with STexo/Astor. Also you will see that Astor,STexo and the like..take this personally. They can't fathom that someone disagrees with them. I think you should really read the Op you made...It has a lot of holes in it. I am ready when you are