Quote from: RxKing on Today at 05:44 am   Also any second year law student can tell you that messages alone are worthless in a criminal case, especially ones from the past, and that even if SR was compromised and they could get messages with addresses and what you ordered from say 1 year ago...or even 1 month ago...that information alone would not get you in trouble. ********************************************************************************************************* from PINE- I don't believe that for a second. You have not studied the Farmer's Market case study?! I don't understand why you think this. This is a perfect example and I am glad you brought this up. I have studied it...and the FACTS are the ONLY reason they got caught was because of how they took payments...They processed funds with credit card machines..I mean they actually ran it like a Subway sandwiches would...They took Paypal, Visa, Mastercard ect. Also the government had that fall into there lap. If SR was compromised today.. they could not prosecute one single person based on what they would find on the servers...PERIOD. In this case...PGP would in no way helped the situation. But just because PGP would not have helped is not reason to not use it.. Also I am not against it in any way.. I am just against people saying that using it would save everything. And in doing so you are so much safer. That is simply not true. Again I am not against PGP... I just do not believe it is THE answer. I like the points you make PINE. but you you must admit they come from a very paranoid place. It is almost like talking to a Prep-per. They firmly believe that the government is going to take away guns and money. And they are getting prepared. And there are a lot of others that believe they are just crazy. And it is never going to happen. I guess you can already tell what I believe. But I would never stop them from doing what they are doing. I would tell them to go talk to some of the Y2Kers...as they did the exact same shit...and they believed the exact same thing... I am not trying to compare pgp to Preparers btw...I was just saying that all of this comes from the angle something will happen to SR...and if it does and you use pgp...you will be safer. And I totally disagree. Also PINE as you know...there have been 100's of claims on here that so and so vendor got busted and so and so's package got seized and he is arrested and every single time....they are 100% false. So much so that they have all but stopped...and they use to happen 2-3 times a week. And you and many others would be in there( the thread) believing the bullshit that was said...and after 12 pages...it could come out not true...and everyone would wait for the next thread...and this time it really was true....except it was not.. When I say this was a normal occurrence...I mean that. 1-3 a week and I could dig them up...and every time they came out completely false. And everyone would say it is just a matter of time. And then they would accuse a certain vendor of being a honey hole for LEO...and everyone would jump in...and people swore it was true...and yet again it was 100% false. This went on for months..and it finally stopped. Now we see it less then 1 time per month...and it is usually when someone writes a post and they put SR in the title and they try to make it out like a vendor on SR in Australia was busted...when the facts are it is not true...though I have read a few people...hero members at that...pass on that knowledge that a vendor in AUS was busted..And it is simply not true. Now of course non of this has anything to do with you or with PGP. But it does have to do with a lot of people that swear to pgp...are the same people that are always in these bullshit threads. And I would not doubt that a lot of them are Preparers IRL.