Yea I don't know about that. But I would wonder who said that. Meaning a lot of people say things and they are just passing forward ...something they heard. They don't have first hand experience. I was there for the world cup and I got ludes.Now I was not around in 1970 or 1980 and I never tried the usa made ones and neither did anyone that I was with. I brought back 100 and the people I gave them to loved them but had never had the "real" ones. They were not capsules. They were pressed pills. Had I known better I would have sent them in to get tested. I know the formula is around and a chemist would be able to tell if they were the exact same thing. I have never seen a pill in the states that claimed to be one. I have heard what people have said 'feels" like them. but these same people never tried the real thing. So how the fuck would they know. Again it is just another example of people passing bad information around. Most people have no clue what they are taking about. There are vendors that advertise they have ocy 30mg IR. when in fact it is called Roxicodone. Again no big deal as it is the exact same thing basically but by listing that people will think that is an Oxycontin 30mg IR. There is no such pill. I know this because they come and ask me if I have that. Then argue with me that they know they make them because so and so says so. I will get more info and make a post about it later this week. You got me interested again in these. I like you have been told/read the same thing. That is why I got them back then. I say December I will have them because I am going to SA in Nov. Hope that helps a little, RxKing