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Wow...well said. I liked the way you wrote it. I can tell you didn't even try and you wrote it fast but really well. And I read it fast. Good read! I agree with everything you said. And I would have quoted it but it was long and I figure if you are going to write something that dead on and ...well that good that the least I could do is answer the 1 question you asked. Even though you didn't specifically ask me, you asked all Rx dealers.....here it is for those that don't know what I am talking about-----

the least Rx vendors could do is admit that they do indeed make a hefty profit because of a very specific addiction


I didn't know Rx vendors had a rep for not admitting that...nor did I know that people thought any different. I am also not sure if you want me to admit I make a hefty profit(I do) or if you want me to admit I make one because of an addiction? Meaning that somehow I would not admit that...I guess the answer is of course I do. But I must tell you I never think in those terms. When I got about 3/4 a way through your post..I was bummed.. Just kind of a downer when you look at it that way you wrote that. Don't get me wrong...I believe everything you said is 100% true ....though I am sure someone on here would disagree. I just never think of those things. I actually am an optimist and always think of the good. And I mean always.. I am a very positive thinker. The good being how great you feel when you are on pain meds and your not fucked up on them. How great I feel when I sell out. How happy people are when they get the package and they message me. I like the money I make selling them. I actually like the feedback when people are happy getting what they ordered.

But I will share this. Last week I messaged a customer who also happens to be a vendor on here. I told him that my Roxie are back in. I would like to share the message he responded back to me------- First I am going to give you my message to him. A little back ground..I have been selling to him every week sometimes twice a week ...either Roxie or Opana. He would order 20 of either one. At first it was only Roxie...He is actually the person who made the write up for the dremel technique for the Opana 40. He always left the best feedback...and he always sent me great long messages on just random things. And never came across anything other then a good guy to me. Someone I liked and would chat with from time to time. So here is my message to him------

Just wanted to let you know I have Roxie back in...

Hope your doing good

RxKing


This was his message to me 1 hour later--------

Yeah man, Im done with opiates...I had a near death experience; ended up on narcan thanks to a friend who found me passed out and purple....from there to detox...and now in a sober house with 30 days (off opiates) still on addies and benzoes but those I need
I did find that package by the way, and its been a pleasure doing buisness with you, it was a fun run homes. stay safe and keep doin your thang.

Much Respect,
C


And after I got that...I just sat back and kind of starred into my screen and thought about what would happen if someone I sold pills to actually died. And as I was just starring at the computer and thinking about this guy...my "friend/customer" in here and where he was at that moment...I was refreshing the inbox and every time or about every other time a new message was coming in and all I can see is the from who and the title and most just said "subject" but there were a few that read "Love you king! Roxies are back!" things like that..all I remember is me sitting there for about 45 min just thinking about what if "my friend" had died.

Again realize I had messaged with him for 5 months..and he sent me sometimes 5 page long messages of the funniest, crazy stories. I mean the guy was a vendor and a buyer and gave me his address. I say he trusted me.. And he ALWAYS made me laugh..and if you read my feedback and you laugh....it was from him.. Anyways he lives back east and when I first heard of the storm I actually thought about him...I have no family back there but I do have IRL friends and I wondered about him..Was weird actually.

But what I thought was the most amazing thing about him..... was  his response to me. When I first read it..I was just in shock that happened to him. Then it hit me that this kind of shit happens and I was the one who gave it to him. Then I thought about all the others I have sold to and what has happened to them. And now all I think about is how great a guy he is to write me that message with no hate directed at me . You guys have read it... I just can't get over that. And I wondered if I was in his shoes... if I could write that.

 He said many times. I was HIS #1 guy. Yes there were others...but I was his go to vendor. I would actually send him 2 orders and he would "buy" the other order when he got the BTC the  next week and i just would not send it. Not that it was much money ...but he sure thought it was...and said many a time after 3 or 4 months of maybe doing it 5 times how generous it was of me and how much he liked that I trusted him. Because he said IRL no one trusted him.

I did. And he never once didn't do what he said he would. He really was my "best" customer. And after what he told me... it really made me think of what I really do.

I know I vend to people that have no control and are in serious trouble. I also vend to others that have their life in control and just like to take meds(smallest group) I also vend to others that resell. And I vend to those that have not yet had a problem that will 100% for sure have one based on what I give them. And it makes me think how many people fucking hate me. Mothers, wife's, sisters,brothers,perky, And when I think like that it makes me want to quit.

Yes I also vend to some that have cancer or some other health problem that give me long messages on how much they thank me and how I "save" their life's. I am not dumb. I realize that those people do exist but more then likely it is a "sick" person that is just addicted to pain killers. Even Perky told me he wont fuck with pain killers as they fucked him up before.

A vendor on here recently told me they are stopping. And the first reason they said is they used to be addicted to pain meds and are not now..But they are sick of being the person that supplies that person that was them. It really made me think.

It has been 2 weeks since my friend sent me that message. And I sent him back a long message thanking him for not blaming me. And I ended it with "I hope you never read this"  meaning I hope he does not log onto SR.

So I don't like to think about that truth. I know it exist. I am not stupid. But I also believe that there is another side that is not such a downer. And that is the side I think about. I don't just do it with SR. I do it in every aspect of my life. I always find the good in something. Other then animal abusers and child molesters. I think BOTH should be killed. 

So you ask me if I will admit I make a huge profit selling something that is highly addict-able. YES. And yes I think about all the bad it causes. Just like I think about the bad Mc Donald's causes or alcohol sales cause. So in truth if all I did was think about the bad. I would quit. And one day I will. But for now I sell Rx to anyone that has the BTC for it. And I don't think about how or where they got it. I don't think about how they are going to use it. I just do not think like that. But just being honest....in all aspects of my life I don't think about the negative. But when my friend sent me that message..... All I thought about is how he is ok. And how he didn't blame me. How if I didn't vend to him...someone else would have.


And I am just happy he didn't die.

Quote from: microRNA on October 31, 2012, 08:36 pm

i should also clarify i wasnt suggesting OP actually do that - he already said he didnt want to sell...

i was just further proving your point about the dilly, but i dont actually believe he can get oxy for ten cents/mg which is why that comment was more sarcastic then anything, maybe thats what confused you?

Don't worry - he's just a vendor defending his prices, I read your guys' whole argument and basically what this guy is saying is since he can get more for them and people will buy them all day, then why ever lower your prices! who wants to help anyone out anyway?


I'm sending you a PM about the roxies - I'll let you know what's up

I am not a vendor defending my prices...LOL..and there has been no argument. I am a vendor telling non vendors how it actually is! This is a typical case of someone that can't afford a certain drug(in this case an opiate) saying that they can get it IRL for 10 cents and would sell on here for 2 bucks....yet if you keep reading he actually say's he would sell for 15 bucks(the current price)!!! He even gives the reason being all the time,shipping supplies ect... It is all there in writing.

I love how people come into a topic and don't read every post...yet take the time to give their opinion and it is of course not based on any facts..or what has been written before..it is just stuff they made up to sound good to themselves

Earlier in the thread someone said they would not pay $37.50 for a 30mg...I agree..It is $29.88  for a 30mg. Would you pay that?
 Is that a big enough difference?

And every single person that actually purchases them is happy with the price....and many would actually pay more. As is always the case with the actual buyers. Of course everyone that is on the buyer side would want lower...no matter how low it is...but the real facts are the people that actually buy the Roxies are very happy with the prices. And we happen to sell the most in demand drug with the lowest availability on here. And all of the Rx vendors are really good guys.

When vendors leave our "department" for lack of a better word..they tell everyone they are leaving and give big discounts to get rid of inventory. They don't hold a sale, require everyone to FE and burn people. Not to many other drugs can say that. Take Vicodin for example. HE is retiring after being here 1 year+ he has perfect feedback and the number 1 complaint was price..yet he was the only guy! And his actual buyers didn't have a problem.Of course you are never going to make everyone happy. And for some people $29.88 for 1 pill is expensive..for others...they buy 300 at a time. TO EAT!!!


 So instead of thinking I am a vendor trying to defend my prices...actually read the post and you will see I am the ONLY vendor in this thread actually telling you how it really is from this side.

I in no way need to defend my prices since I am the lowest priced vendor on here in Rx for opiates. Yes there are others too. I am not the only one. But I have zero complaints about price and I could raise my prices and still sell out.

Also I am only talking about USA Rx Vendors.


Thanks for reading!

those were actually two separate statements

first was saying if i could find oxy anywhere for 50 cents/mg that i would be very interested in buying again. for $1/mg i prefer to spend the money on H

the second was toward DF, saying that if he can get oxy for ten cents a mg he should sell on here as he kinda mentioned - he could sell at ten times what he is getting them for...

Oh I got it..You were saying that if he could get it for 10 cents a mg he should sell on here as he kinda mentioned-he could sell at ten times what he is getting them for...     
That makes sense....but what about the main part...this......
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"shit, if someone was providing them at 50 cents a mg i would actually be interested in oxy again"

"you could make a killing"

"Build your Buyer stats slowly with small purchases of non drug related items"

That is the WORST advice. We can see that you are doing that and it makes ZERO sense..BUT the next line is the BEST advice..

"work it out with a vendor via PM (Most are very helpful to new customers)"

There are more scamming buyers then vendors. The reason FE is allowed is because it is a free market. It is not allowed by new vendors with less then 55 sales. Though some do it. If you see it..report it to SR as there is not a system in place that won't allow it...meaning it is not like the system shuts you out until you hit 55 sales. It is just told that you cant do it. And some new vendors ask for FE and when get called out act like they didn't know(complete bullshit).


Bottom line is this...Don't FE if you do not want to. Move on. There are plenty of vendors. YOU make the decision. You are never forced to FE. I have yet to see where the only option is a vendor that requires FE. So shop around. Just remember to finalize as soon as you get your drugs. Nothing worse then a buyer who wants over nite service then takes 2-3 days to finalize.

I can say that even though I am against it...that some vendors must do it or they will just get scammed. Meaning they can't ship with DCN and so the buyer knows that..and the buyer will claim he did not receive the package and try and get a refund or re ship. Trust me it happens more then you think. Again the beautiful thing is there is always a choice. So pick yours. But just because you don't like it does not mean it should not be an option.

Quote from: nosaj_thing on October 31, 2012, 06:51 am

this thread comes around all the time. it's ironic you talk about overpriced goods then go on to say you would sell dilaudid 8mgs that you paid 3 dollars for 15.

sad fact is, opiates are expensive, especially Rx opiates, and the market is there. you can call it vendors taking advantage of addicts, or vendors following market trends, but either way the Rx dope on here will always probably be overpriced.

hopefully a decent H vendor will come along and run the trap, bring the prices down. because the H prices are just silly. i mean oxycodone is about the same on here as the streets in some places, but it's a whole different story with heroin.

Let me address the first bit - If I go through the trouble of packaging and shipping narcotics, I'm putting my freedom at risk and therefore, yes, for the massive amount of work it takes, I'd ask for a little more... (I sell them locally at $10 per so that isn't asking for much considering it would be more work)

Anyway, you do make a valid point. But still - even with Oxycodone at $1/mg (Hydrocodone being the same) I can get it here for less than ten cents per milligram... why would I want to even use silk road to begin with?


As far as the H goes, at least you gave it to me there. SR prices are crazy for H and most of the H vendors anyway are scams :/

Holy shit...read your first paragraph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like I said in my first post in this thread YOU ANSWERED IT!

The truth is we/I could charge more! It is not just supply and demand..that is the main thing of course..but demand for opiates will always be bigger then the supply. Plus they pay for reliability. There are vendors with lower prices that do less business then a vendor with higher prices. This has been addressed many a time...but you must not have read those.

YOU think the price is high..A lot of others do not. EVERY single person of course wants to pay less. Who wouldn't. But many are happy with the price. And have no problems with it. It is always the ones who can't afford the prices that complain. And I understand that. But opiates are hard to get in numbers. And the fact is the demand is huge. If there was a drug that should be lower it is weed. But that's not the case. Again for 1 reason...demand. Quality weed will always bring a premium because there will always be a demand. And the demand will come from people with money to spend. Just like there are people who buy BMW's and people that buy fords. Both get you from A to B. But the fact is people will pay for quality...nothing wrong with Ford...and some like them better then BMW...and if you need a truck..BMW is not even an option..but the fact is people will pay for something even if others say is over priced because they can afford it.Others complain how expensive something is and other say how happy they are with the price.


Not only once..but 2 times in your own thread you admit you would charge a lot for pills if you were to sell and you list the reason why...then you complain about the prices..Well the reasons you list factor in to the prices. But the truth is all of us vendors could charge more for opiates. With out question.

Vendors are in no way taking advantage of addicts..as most of my clients are not addicts. Though some will argue we all are. If we wanted to we could all get together and list everything at $1.50 a mg and it would sell. There are not a lot of Rx vendors. And the demand is unreal. I sell the most Rx opiates a month and I sell out. I give a ton of business to other vendors. They sell out. I agree we need more vendors. But when they come they to will sell out.

No offense but your 120 script...would not even register.


I think $1 mg is a fair price. And it seems the buyers do to. As you sad we risk A LOT. And we spend a lot of time. And we have something that others simply can not get. Where as weed,H and coke...anyone can get. What everyone wants is someone that is reliable and delivers when they say they will. PERIOD. They pay a premium for that. As that is what is the most important factor.

Quote from: smokeweed420 on October 31, 2012, 05:17 am

    Its a market just waiting for a king pin to show up and make everyone else lower their prices. Its a free market and if people will pay outragous prices, than sellers wont lower them. The only thing that will change the prices is more sellers showing up and offering lower prices and pretty soon it will look like the mdma market is on here now!

Well shit. Who is in to help me do this? Because, honestly, I'd LOVE to be the one to bring them down - problem is, I can't be a full time vendor and something of this task would require a shit load of work.


I mean, if you go look at my posts, I've considered the idea, and I KNOW the demand is there- but the supply and the work may not be.


I can get 30 (up to 250 a month) 8mg dilaudid's per month for about $3.33 per pill. Turning that around I figured with all the labor and shipping involed, I could flip those ON SILK ROAD for about $15 per (even at that, it's really high but 3times lower than the current price for them)

My only issue is being able to handle 83845374573845 orders. I couldn't do it :/

Hence you answered your own question!! The price of the pills includes all the time we spend taking orders and answering questions and packaging and shipping.

Plus supply and demand.

There are many vendors on  here that can help you.

Just search on SR.