Nellion I am just responding to your post .. I did not quote it as it is to long.
First you are coming from the spot where YOU can't afford it. I said that I understand that ....for you and others price are to high...Just like not everyone gets bottle service in a nite club. You seem to totally understand what I wrote..then you just fall off and act as if you didn't even read what I said.
Here is one of the things you said-----
Now, all these vendors on here justify their high prices with the same old argument "You do not understand everything we do... There is a lot of cost... There is a lot of risk..." This argument falls short in my opinion
First I don't even agree with that. I do not believe the prices are to high! I know they are for YOU but they are not for most of the people. I have explained this a lot. I don't think a vendor has to ever defend their prices. They make them and you either buy them or not. And I was never doing that. I was just explaining to you my business. I thought I made that clear. This is a market place. You come in here and you buy or you don't. We as vendors list things to sell. As I have explained in great detail I sell out every single month. So price is not an issue at all. YOU simply can't afford it. That's it. I don't think you go out and pay for a first class ticket when you fly. Other do.
Again let me make it clear that I know some people are going to always say prices are to high. What I don't understand it how anyone would say that when if they had it....they would want the highest price they could get for it. I have read where some have said " making X amount is enough...vendors should not be greedy". It is always someone who does not have something and really wants it but can't afford it.Just like it is the guy with the small dick saying girls don't care about size.
You said this----
There is no reason you should not do it, if you want to be greedy, and the fact that you have already raised them from $19 to $30 is an obvious manifestation of greed.
Again you are just wrong. The reason I raised it from $19 to $30 is that the first time I sold at $19 they were purchased and resold on here for $30!!!! The market say's the lowest for 30mg Roxicodone is around $25 to $34. I have 20 messages a week from other vendors wanting to buy 500 for $23 so they can then sell from $30 to$ 40 IRL. For some reason they believe that selling 400 at once would be a good thing for me. You use the word greed. LOL that word never even enters my head. Though making money does. I sell my pills to make money. Not to help others. This is a business about profit. You should understand that. And you should realize if you could afford it you would not have the co0mplaints you do. Though people that can afford something still complain. People are always going to complain. I don't think you are. But I think you need to recognize that you are in the minority.
You said this----
But, in most cases, the consumer eats the extra costs incurred by shipping. And, in most cases, vendors will be paying bills for internet service and will have already had bought a computer anyways. So, if you don't mind explaining where all these extra costs are coming from- now's your chance. I assure you that I will not reject your arguments before even typing them, I will actually consider them.
I don't even consider those things like internet or shipping as an extra cost. I was just saying in my post that I was not going to break down every little thing. I was just trying to say that we have cost and if you search the forums you can find out all those. But the number one thing is I am selling drugs and no matter how much money I make it is not worth my freedom. And I know you may think you have the same risk buying them...it is not even close. So if I am going to do this then I am going to make it worth my time. It really is that simple..it is not like I factor in every little thing. I don't.
You said this---
Now onto time processing orders. How are you spending any more time slanging pills than street dealers? Hell, if you're doing things right (and I bet you are), you should be filling MORE orders in a SHORTER amount of time than if you were slanging on the street. Seriously, you're only wasting gas money driving to the post office, and you're likely making multiple drops in one trip. So, you should HAVE less costs and LESS time spent making runs by selling on SR, not more- unless you have no clue how to plan trips and make the most of your time. And, I highly doubt that you're too stupid to be able to perform competently =).
Why in the world do you even compare this to what IRL drug dealers do? There is very little comparison. I know I have never made one. I don't even consider us close to the same thing. I have never done what you say..I know other vendors have...I have not. And so I don't have anything to say about this other then it does not apply to anything I have said.
You say this-------------------
It may be worth it to some people, but it's not worth it to me. I refuse to pay $60 for a 4 hour buzz. Now, I may bitch about it on the forums, but I will never PM you such complaints because I do understand the situation and I do respect what you're doing to a certain degree. I believe sending you a PM saying such things would be flat out disrespectful, counter-productive, and a waste of time.
This is the most important thing you say. It clearly says that YOU don't think so and YOU can't afford it. Well you are in the minority of my buyers. I think you should realize that your whole post is coming from someone who cant afford the prices now. That's it. And I have said I understand your position. But I would not think it is disrespectful of you to send a message to a vendor asking for a better price. Why would it be??? Worst case is they say no
so you have nothing to lose..
A lot of your other points are comparing me to a street vendor. And I have already said that there is no comparison. And I have never even said there was. Yet in your message you act as if I did and I used them as reason for my prices. Did you even read my message???(lol) I clearly said I was not defending anything as I don't feel I have to. That your opinion is not the one everyone has. And that you clearly come from a point of you can't afford what you actually like and want. I even said..I am sorry for that...as you don't make enough money...but there is nothing I can do about that. I was giving you information and telling you my position. Not trying to defend it. I made it clear I sell out. I made it clear I would sell out if I raised my prices.
You said this----
Why should you raise prices? Obviously, to get more money. More money is always nice. And, as you said, you most likely would not have a problem with sales.
Why should you lower prices? It all comes down to your morals and motives. If you care about being a decent person and hooking people up- lower your prices. You will lose profits that you have already demonstrated you're capable of earning, but you will make a lot more people satisfied with the prices they're getting. And, people like me will actually considering buying off of SR. I also like to believe that karma will pay you back in the long run.
How you even say morals and motives makes me think that you simply mistyped or you didn't read what I wrote. I said I WAS NOT GOING TO raise my prices. I told you why. BUT morals has nothing to do with it at all. Do you not understand when you are selling something you are doing it to make money? Raising my prices has nothing to do with my morals. In fact if I were to in the future to raise my price for the pills it would be because I wanted to make more money. Maybe it cost me more to get them..maybe I just wanted more money..either way it has nothing at all to do with my morals. The you say that if I cared about hooking people up I would lower my prices?
WTF.. I hook people up all the time..but even those vendors that don't..do you not realize that how I feel about someone has nothing to do with my business. You do realize this is a business and I am in business to make money. I wrote a whole post how I could make more and why I don't. The more you write the more it is clear you simply can't afford what you really want. You either need to make more money or go shop somewhere else. Should BMW lower there prices so someone that makes 35k a year can buy an M5? Should Louis Vuitton lower there price?? The answer is of course not! Don't miss the message in my message. I was just posting to explain my situation ...to give you a behind the scenes. That's it.
Another poster said " if the prices are not too high....why are people complaining? That is such a stupid post. But let me again state some FACTS. Look at the bottom of the home page in the forums. The most people there ever is in here is 150. These forums in no way represent the market place! And even in here ...very very few actually complain. In fact in this thread more buyers are telling you and the others how you are in fact wrong and they are fine with the prices. Again I state that every person would want lower.....but MOST...yes MOST are just fine. Less then 5% of my buyers even come to the forums.
Also someone else posted about "junkies" and how they will always pay whatever. Well I will address that. First what is a junky? Yes I know..but some will say we all are. So using the word how you meant it.. I would say less then 20% of my customers fall in that category. I will also tell you that most of my customers have money. They make more then 100K a year. They can afford it. And a lot of them just like to sometimes get high. I do feel bad for those addicted and understand that sucks. But nothing I can do. I sell drugs!! I am not a hospital or a doctor or a rehab clinic. Buyers come to me. I don't go to them. And lowering my prices sure in not the answer to help them.
So let me say this...I understand where you are coming from. I hope you can read this and understand where I am. I think you sent your message not being mean or a dick or anything like that. Just giving your opinion. I hope you see that all I am doing is responding and giving you my facts. I am in no way trying to make you feel bad or call you anything. But I think you need to realize that your position is not the same as everyone else. And I think the best analogy is IRL shopping at Wallmart vs shopping at Neiman Marcus. Not everyone can do both. And others ...that can't.... would not even if they could. I understand that. But the fact is Neiman Marcus has a market and that market is not for everyone. And they realize that.
I do too.
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until now. This is a good example of a thread that is titled one way but then takes a turn to another and why a lot of post can not be deleted since the community enjoys them. But when a topic go's off course then it is our job to lock it.