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DPR ----

Once again you have proved yourself to the best! The best leader we could all have. And u also proved that in some way you are not human!!! As it seems you did not sleep that 36 hours.... so I hope you finally got some rest 

There has been multiple times in the past 2+ years that you have had to deal with something that forces you to shut down the road from a few hours up to 5+ days. And in every case there have been many, many threads made about how you are in some way trying to fuck us, the members of silk road, out of our btc. They say you have the site down to take from us, that the site will not come back up again and just about every other negative thing that can be said.

But EVERY SINGLE TIME the site comes up better then before and of course ALL of our btc is in our accounts. Your honesty and integrity should never be in question but it seems to come up every time there is a situation where someone cant access there accounts. And I, along with many other members  believe in you and this site and know that you are always doing everything you can to improve it and make it better for all of us.

The smart ones also realize you do not need to shut down the site to take our btc..lol..you could just do it. But those of us that have been here long enough and have had interactions with you personally know better. I have had numerous situations with you...where you have ALWAYS done the right thing and in some cases you have done things that other people simply would never do. And it was always to my favor.  Simply put...you are always trying to do the right thing. And a lot of people can not say that about themselves.


The  charter you came up with  is awesome. And I hope everyone reads it understands that everything you wrote in their you actually practice and have since day 1. So I thank you  and EVERYONE  once again for getting the best site on the internet back up and running smoother then ever. As the site has never been faster!

Also the community as a whole was pretty awesome in this situation. Most seemed to be patient and understand that you were doing everything in your power to get us back up and going. Yes there were a few assholes as usual and some of the crazies that always post there bullshit when the road is un-accessible  for more then 15min...but it just go's to show you how important this place is to them.

It is important for all of us to just focus on the positive and realize how lucky we are to be sharing this awesome ride with the best Captain we could ask for. It takes everyone to make this place run. And as you can see with the other sites that simple put are total shit...the reason we succeed is we have the best leader and the community. There are a lot of really great people here. I only hope it continues to get bigger and stronger. The one thing I am sure of...is that as long as DPR is the leader....we will always be the best....


THANK YOU DPR and crew!

@ PINE

There is NO NEED at all to make FE go away. It is a choice. NO ONE forces you to do FE. In fact the buyers control that. The buyers CHOOSE to use a vendor that requires their customers to FE. And each person has the option...yes option.... to do it or not. As a vendor I do not require it and never would. But there have been times on an order of say 10k that I wanted those coins right away...as I was going to trade them for cash and I wanted the rate right then and there...and even waiting 24 hours would have cost me 5k. So in that case the FE was needed. And my customer had no issue with it at all. The fact is the buyer needs to make that decision.

As to the pgp...that is another thing that only affects the buyer...and it only affects the buyer if you believe at one point SR will be compromised and you also believe when compromised that the SR servers will in fact have all the information from messages and from the orders available Even though DPR has stated that information is not saved and even if the servers were compromised that information would not be available.

The truth is, the bigger issue is if a vendor keeps the information or not. That is something that would come back to hurt a buyer a lot more then SR being compromised.

Also any second year law student can tell you that messages alone are worthless in a criminal case, especially ones from the past, and that even if SR was compromised and they could get messages with addresses and what you ordered from say 1 year ago...or even 1 month ago...that information alone would not get you in trouble.

PGP is another layer of security...BUT it is not something that is this big lifesaver. And FE is not something that is a problem. The problem is getting people to understand how things work and what not to d to and what to do.

In over 1 year here I can tell you I have witnessed things that buyers do that would blow everyone's minds. If I didn't have these things happen to me...I would never believe people are that dumb. THEY ARE.

And you would have to be a total idiot if you believed that PGP alone will in any way protect you. There are 10 other things that are more important then PGP. And as to the FE...that is something that will never go away and actually it really can't. And the beauty of how it now..is YOU HAVE A CHOICE. And I for one like when I have the freedom to choose. And as a buyer if you choose correctly and you have an IQ over 90 you should be able to order and receive your goods on SR with no problem 100% of the time. And in fact I think most buyers do just that.

We have and will continue to hedge all escrow and take a 4% hit over time to keep from having to pull listings or worry about market fluctuations. A 4% margin buffer isn't hard to install into your business plan even after the fact. Vendors that go unhedged deserve to loose money for playing with fire. BTC is too volatile to keep for longer than 1-2 weeks at this point, and you need to set up better ways of cashing yourself out if you don't have the ability to get rid of your entire BTC stash in under a week. Now when it comes to making lists and whatnot, this doesn't help ANYONE. It does nothing but cause drama on the boards and the site itself and is bad for PR. Please understand that some vendors are shady while others are truly on the up and up. We try to remain transparent as best we can in our store, but not everyone is so nice so just research carefully before ordering. Also ordering during extremely volatile times is a risk for the buyer as well since we as sellers have a RIGHT to cancel any order placed with us within 4 days per our agreement with DRP and the SR site. This is so WE can choose who WE do business with (also it keeps buyers from canceling an order while a vendor is in the process of shipping it out). At the same time, every buyer has the ability to research and choose the vendors that treat them the way they want. If you personally felt like someone screwed you over then simply don't order from them anymore. With few exceptions, no one vendor has a monopoly over any category that they do sales in, even for their home country in most cases. The only way to start lowering sales is for LEO to start getting us to not trust each other, and this type of behavior by just starting this thread is detrimental to the site as a whole. Bad vendors will start to drop once people stop using them, but one or two incidents during a VERY volatile period of trade is no excuse to start some sort of witch hunt...... Just some food for thought folks......

 Hey brother.. I hear what you are saying...but there is a way better plan you could install and it would work for you real well. It is worth at least a look. We posted it in vendor forums, you must have not seen it,

Send me a Pm and I will set you up..See ya

Does this have an affect on money being slow going onto the road?? Have been waiting about an hour and have around 10 confirmations and an order I placed right after to my outside wallet went in lighting quick??

No it does not...It is normal for it to take up to 6 hours....sometimes a lot sooner and sometimes longer... but to answer your question...No the load speed for SR on Tor has NOTHING to do with how long it takes for your btc to get into SR.


Also @trashcompaqtor

Quit being such a pussy and acting like a girl... you saying this------

Your high and mighty anti-trolling just makes you look bad, dude.

Makes YOU come off like a typical newbie that assumes I was speaking to you...For the record 100's read this and I was speaking to them. Since you are new..you don't realize how many stupid people we have in here. Not saying you are one of them BUT there are a lot...and they will not have the most up to date TOR. I mean there are actually morons in here  who do not use tor to connect to SR!!! As insane as that is...I mean I can't even imagine someone is that stupid...then again I totally know they are as I get questions that prove it every single hour. So in the future when you read something...and you do not like it...don't comment...just assume it was not meant for you.

First....as a vendor I have every right to take down MY listings whenever I please.

Who the fuck is that buyer telling me I cannot do that....make a LIST?
Where do you work, administration ?
 Don't buy from him till he clean up his act? The fucking arrogance!!

Like is been said many times before ....you would be nowhere with no vendors who take more risk and take all the afford to make it all to your doorstep.
And saying they are getting rich easy? You had that money too.... only you want to put it up your nose, vains or whatever   

The only thing I would not do is cancel an order after its in the orderlist, being there is an agreement to sell so to speak.
The order is there so I cannot/will not cancel

The reason I take a/my listing down is that the coins are dropping faster than SR -can- correct with the pegged prices.
Say at 1300 its 1btc $150.....1310 only 1btc $100.
SR is still at 1 btc/$150 for at least some time.
It should be 1.5btc in the listing so selling now I will loose 50 $

If the SR price would change just as fast as the MtGox there would be no problem at all....the dollar / coin would stable.
It does not matter if the value of a pill is 1 btc or 10 as long as the dollar/btc is pegged
That the coins are loosing value does not influence the selling.
There was a time...not so long ago that a coin was ahhhhh 5 euro/ 8 dollar and at that time a pill cost 5 coins a piece.

So, be happy there are vendors to get you your so much wanted and needed supply and respect what they do.
In general they have more know-how  about the business than you as a buyer.
And don't be so arrogant to think you can tell somebody to do something because you think they're doing wrong.
(vendor over a year now 500+ sales)

You are a shitty fucking vendor. AND A TOTAL FUCKING IDIOT.

It is not SR's fault you are fucking dumb as shit and terrible. Do you know what a 24 hour weighted average is? If you did then you would not type half the stupid shit you have. You have said so much WRONG, DUMB, STUPID shit I am convinced you are a girl.

You  have no clue what you are even talking about. And the fact you even say------

If the SR price would change just as fast as the MtGox there would be no problem at all....the dollar / coin would stable

Cements you are one of the stupidest fucking vendors on the road. Do everyone a favor and after you pull your listings, pull your vendor account.

That was the nicest way I could say that.

I thinke btc will become more valuable as time passes.200 in 10 days?? I don think so.

Yea your right I am pretty crazy to think that....it only went from 50 to 280 in 13 days...

The silkroad should switch to latest price if the market is volatile?

Either that or give fair warning to both parties that orders placed in extremely volatile markets may not be honored (which is the de-facto situation right now, let's be honest)

This is a typical response from an idiot that has no clue what they are talking about...but thinks they do.

First SR uses a 24 hour weighted average.. This should be VERY EASY to understand. It also happens to be the BEST SYSTEM SR can use.

I can't even say what I really want to as it is just to mean..but for you to say "they" should give us fair warning in an extremely volatile market ...who do you mean by they? And how should "they" do it? Please do not try and answer these questions as there is no "they" Also do you realize with a 24 hour average you do have fair warning? Since SR does not use the "current" Mt.Gox price (that would be a disaster)  it uses the 24 hour average...that means that if you look at SR price this second (it is 110 as I am typing this at 3:53pm PST and you look at the current Mt.Gox price...99.99 as of the exact time) GUESS WHAT???

In the next couple hours the SR price is going down!!!! OMG what does that mean??? It means if you had an IQ above 80...you can figure out where the SR price will be with out fail...every single time!! This might be the easiest thing to do! Also SR used to use the mtgox price and it was a disaster. Also realize that the market has ALWAYS been volatile...ALWAYS. It is also very very very simple to use coins and get the fair market value at the time you do so.

I have read so many messages like yours. And it is always someone that has about 50 messages...that somehow got out of the newbie section and then thinks because they have posted 50 messages...that they now understand how everything works...so they will start posting idea's for SR to use. Really good ones. Except the total opposite.

Also I read things like "the SR lag"....how the fuck do so many people not understand 24 hour average!!! That means it takes the average for 24 hours!!! So in the last 24 hours it has been $85 to $130 of course every 5 min those numbers change...and guess what? SO DOES SR PRICES!!!!! Yet it seems 90% of the morons that post have not and can not figure this out!

Also realize that Mt.Gox is actually shit. But unfortunatly it is the best exchange we have... And because the trading market is so small it is very volatol. But again that does not matter...as 99% of you just buy btc to use on here for drugs. The problem is when the coins are doing what they are doing...and you are to stupid to be able to predict (with 100% accuracy ) you panic and you come into the forums and make stupid post. Then you listen and take advice from other morons.

What you all need to do that do not understand anything...is get your coin..whatever you pay for it (should never be more then 5% of the current rate) move it to SR..and with about 5 min of homework you should be able to figure out when to use your coins for maximum value.

Also..there has been many threads about this..but still I see how buyers think buying from a vendor that uses hedging somehow affects you the buyer...IT DOES NOT!!! It makes no difference...as once you pay it is over for you...The reason why it is not for a vendor is that the vendor had to wait for you to finalize...and that can take days...so a vendor that has their items hedged is saying that they want the asking price ...the price you paid...no matter when you the buyer finalizes....a vendor that does not have an item hedged is saying...I don't care when the buyer finalizes...and I am not too concerned about what the btc does in the short term...  That's it!!! It does not affect you at all. If the vendor offers you a refund then it would matter..but again..that in itself  is rare so no need to go into that

So please people..try to learn something and quit being so stupid

To the OP....There are a lot of ways to get btc at SR prices. I for one have ALWAYS sold btc at the current SR rate. I even tell my customers that I will wait until they are online...so that id they got 1k in btc from me...then I will make sure they have 1k in there SR account...I will also tell them, with out fail..where the  is btc going in the next hour and that if they want to hold onto they can as it is going up...or that they should use it in the next 15 min as it is going down. There are plenty of other that do the same.

I agree..it was pretty sweet when it was $5 for a while then we were at $15 to12 forever...that was nice. But I do believe it will go a lot higher then 260 and the truth id for vending that is bad...but there are ways to make it work. The real problem is how many stupid fucks are on here. They do not understand the simplest of things. Just look at the shit they post...But there are still ways to vend and vend well no matter what the btc does. We just have to adjust.

Good luck to you and nice talking to you too...always nice when people can have different opinions or the same and just type and give there side..then type and get my side and shake hands and move forward. There used to be a lot of that...and you could actually learn on hear Now way to many idiots and those idiots don't like to be called idiots, but they also have a porblem being smart. There are so many dumb things said in here. And so many that say the dumb shit and get called out that they are wrong...and they just go create another screen name.. Oh well its just the forums...

Time will tell if they are going back up over 200 anytime soon..I am on the record saying they will for sure and Heat fan is on the record saying they won't anytime soon. We should make a death match...who ever is wrong can not post on the forums for 6 months. Unless they are called out and asked a questions. Or even better they lose there form handle. I am willing to do that heatfan...are you? The bet would be in the next 10 days the btc is over 200. If that happens I win and you need to quit posting with the name heat fan.(of course it would be a lot better if you just quit posting all together but I think just losing your name is good enough!) I mean it is baseball season, and you can just find out who has the best record and fan them..you can be Nationalfan1990, or jump to Nascar and be Jimmyfan1990.

So it is up to you.....