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I've read your posts about PGP elsewhere so I understand you don't want to back down but there is no way privinote is better or even comparable to PGP.
Since you KNOW everything because you are so good and cant back it up I can say I KNOW people are much MORE likely to keep privinote addresses than PGP.

Why....Well if I told you "have a look at  Scarlett Johansson's awesome breasts, she trusts you but you can only see them once" Admit it you are going to be more likely to take a picture/screenshot or at least a good mental image JUST IN CASE you ever need to see that again.
Now if I say here is the same picture but it's encrypted in such a way only you can ever see it, she wants you to delete it just in case but you can be 100% sure as long as only you know your password nobody else will be ever able to see it.

I know which method I'll be sending my dick pics over!!

Vendors encouraging privinote sets a bad precedent for clients to use it for all communication (I have seen vendors say they use privinote for everything thus leading customers to think doing the same is protecting them) If you are fine with your messages going through a third party considering what just happened Tormail and  FH I think you cant be taking security nearly as seriously as you say you are.
You would have to agree one point of failure is better than two so you accept and unnecessary risk when there is a viable and more secure alternative.

If privinote and disposable communications become the trend (as in an easier and just as secure alternative to PGP you would seem to encourage) whats to stop buyers leaving feedback threats via this method without fear of repercussion, SR protects you, PGP protects you, Privinote will get you F'd in the A eventually 

Personally I'd rather ride SR bareback and send my address through one server in cleartext than trust in a third party

I like you man, I really do but there is a reason everyone here gives you shit about it and that's because some day you are going to have to realize the facts are against you.

First I will address your last paragraph.

I do not take what you said personally. Nor what anyone else says. I get that you have an opinion and even if I think it is wrong, you think it is right. BUT when I post in here, I only post from my point of view. I am not going to say in every single post I make that it is not personal BUT...so I know that many post I write come off arrogant or as if I can't be wrong.LOL.  First I find it really funny that a few  people get pissed about that... so I actually play it up. Why wouldn't I??? I love that people get pissed at shit talking. Nothing better to me then when someone say's "do you have to be so arrogant?"

But for you to say "everyone gives me shit" is just totally inaccurate. And actually the FACTS are totally with me. Not against me. Since you seem to care, go read the thread again. See what I say and then see what is said after me. If you did that, you would clearly see that very few disagree.. Also I have over 600 customers and I have been here for 1.5 years and I have never had anything but 5/5....so CLEARLY I am winning. I was told by these idiots when I became a vendor that if I did not use pgp I would not get customers.


Now I can't believe that I am addressing this...but I have to. You actually said that because you can only visit privnote 1 time that it means someone that uses it is more likely to keep information?? You ...actually believing this ...is really insane. Your analogy with Scarlett Johannson's breast is totally lost on me. As I think she is a midget and I think she is fat. Also I think her tits suck. BUT I understand what you were trying to say (just use Jessica Alba)...and I totally disagree with the analogy and think you even thinking that is off the charts crazy. I do not need to save anything or look at address 2 times. I look at it, I address the label and that's it. I do not even understand how you think someone that uses privnote vs pgp would be more likely to keep an address or not. And I do not even think that is an issue.



Now you say this---

"If you are fine with your messages going through a third party considering what just happened Tormail and  FH I think you cant be taking security nearly as seriously as you say you are"

What messaging are you talking about??? This whole sentence is incorrect. I do not use privnote at all ...first off. Nor did I use tormail. I tell buyers they can use it for their address if they must but that they are totally fine just sending it through SR. And I stand by that. But the biggest issue I have with what you typed is not only how out of context you take what I say, but how you say MY security is somehow compromised!!

My security is NEVER at issue. EVER. PGP or no PGP, RxKing's security is never the issue. This is only about the buyer not wanting their address on SR or not. Every buyer that uses PGP is going to have there address out there. And that is my problem with pgp and all the security talk, it is just that...talk. PGP offers NO SECURITY AT ALL!!

But since you seem to know so much.......will you please tell me how PGP will protect me? I would love to hear it. But since the answer is....it can't.....go ahead and tell me how pgp will protect the buyer. I would love to hear that. And don't use " If SR gets compromised" .....I want to hear the reason pgp is so great. I will be waiting for your answer.

Also my BIG ISSUE is all the paranoia for NO REASON. Every time the littlest thing happens, they come out of the wood works about how SR is compromised...and of course they are wrong every time! And then there are idiots that say if you are not a little paranoid then you are not secure...that is just crazy thinking. I do not buy gold either. I do not store water or food. I have guns. If the world ends, I will take what I need from some loser that prepped. Or even better I hope I die. I do not want to survive on canned food and bottle water.

Wait, during some outages there were several vendors selling on the forums.
I know it's probably not allowed for anyone to do it, but if you are a vendor on SR and have the Vendor Status beside your name (which I believe requires you to have a forum signature to your SR profile) I believe you can vend on the forums. This might just be during certain times or circumstances, but i know if you visit Product Offers I have seen a few thread where people "buy" direct. I can't guarantee anything was legit, but as far as being allowed I'm not sure why you couldn't as long as you are a vendor.     

I can't believe you wrote this.

This is what you believe and your a vendor???

Jesus Christ I didn't know so many people didn't know shit.(not saying you Walmart, as I read your second sentence)


As a vendor you can promote or tell anyone about what you are selling on SR. But under NO CIRCUMSTANCES can you vend through the forums, meaning not go through SR.


And if you have ever seen a vendor profile that said  "buy direct" that vendor would lose there account if you let SR know about it.(and you should)

The number one thing other then  "do not keep address" ( that should just be common sense but clearly there are some really stupid vendors) is under no circumstances do you vend in any way except through SR.

PERIOD.

Clearly you can never sleep. If you do and something happens and SR is down for 60 min at 2am EST there is a shit storm. No one understands things happen. AND make sure when you post a message you sign it, or we will all know you are the FBI.


I love that within 5 min of you showing up the site is back up.

As usual...

Good day

so you can get an idea of if it would work out for you before spending $500? maybe give some free samples.

Of course!!!

You can vend all you want in the forums for the first 30 days of your forum account.

And send out all the free samples you want, as that is a great way to get business. You will have only the best SR has to offer you sending you their address for free drugs. And as soon as you make $500 and you get a vendor account, those same people you sent free drugs too will become buyers for you.

Also they will give you great reviews.

I am glad you wrote this post so that others know. As there is no information on what you asked anywhere in this forums. And everyone knows the search option does not work. Every time you go to use it, it will tell you that someone else just searched for that very same thing and you have to wait 5 seconds.

Good luck to you and welcome to SR forum vending.

Ps. Make sure that when you send out free samples, that the people sending you their address use pgp. If they do not, your fucked and so are they.

how does PGP not provide security?! Are you MAD?! Of course it does, it is very effective, it's impossible for anyone who doesn't have my private key to decrypt a message that was encrypted with my public key.

QM

Ok I will address this one more time. Though I have about 200 times in the last 16 months.

Using pgp to send a message is secure in the sense you said. Meaning you are 100% correct that only someone with your key can READ the message. And everyone would assume only you know your key and you do not have it written down anywhere. I don't disagree with that at all.

BUT I am ONLY talking about using pgp for Addresses. The fact is that I HAVE to read it and write it down, and that is where the security risk is. Once I open it, then it is just like anything else without PGP.

And ALL of the people that preach pgp are doing so based on the fact that one day SR will get compromised and if you do not use pgp for your address, then your address will be on the servers.( I do not believe that) BUT....THAT IS IT! And I agree that if you use pgp for your address when placing an order that yes indeed your address will never be on SR in anyway.

I for one do not think SR will get compromised. And if I am wrong, and it is, then I do not think an address means anything. In fact I KNOW it does not. Not one person would ever get prosecuted or have anything happen to them based on an address found somewhere on the darknet.

The fact is,  the security threat for the buyer will not be protected in ANY WAY with PGP. It gives a total false sense of security. And actually adds nothing.

I will give you an actual case where it is useless. Unlike the so called Guru's on here that always say what if...I will tell you what happened.

So these idiots always say to only use a vendor with pgp. O.k, fair enough, so you believe their total bullshit and you do that and you believe you are totally safe. Now what happens when that vendor that uses PGP decides to write every address down and save them? How did your pgp help you there? It did not!!! It did nothing for you. And that lies the problem with pgp.

The fact is that pgp gives buyers a false sense of security and offers no true security. If you want REAL security as a buyer, then you should only deal with a vendor that would never do something so stupid(as to keep anything at all ever) a vendor that has proven over a long period of time that they should be trusted, and a vendor that knows what the fuck he is doing.

A PROFESSIONAL.

But there are ALWAYS going to be security risk, and the fact is we have to send drugs through some sort of mail, and that is hands down the biggest security threat. As a package with drugs in it with your name on it...it a lot bigger threat then an address on a some server from 5 months ago.

The real and only risk for a buyer is when you get the package. It is all about the package. If a vendor gets pulled over going to the post office and they find all his packages, does PGP help you? If  a vendor writes everything down and has a drug house....does pgp help you? If the vendor you use, is a druggie himself and been in trouble before, would you want him with your address??? Does pgp protect you from them?

I could go it to a lot more detail but this is not the place, and any one with a brain would understand what I mean when I say that PGP is WORHTLESS. All that matters is the person that is opening the pgp. Worry about that guy.

"And you CLEARLY do not know a fucking thing about USPS tracking. If you think that from tracking, you could see the ZIP CODE from where I ship, it just shows how little you know. "- The fact you think this in itself shows how little you know. Do you think if you send a package to the white house, the DEA etc that you'll be safe? They can trace almost all mail no problem, they traced that ricin despite being made in a clean room with no DNA and no other evidence on the envelope, they just traced it back from 1 letter. Given the many you send out every day, this significantly amplifies the risk. You get away with it for now, your packaging sounds great, but when you land on your arse, boy you will land hard, and that's my point.

Sexto...I know you are a very smart guy....BUT I think you should stick to what you know. Not what you do not know.

I 100% could send ricen to the White House and those dumb fucks would not come looking for me. Why? Because I am an EXPERT in what I do. Like you are in what you do.

Do you really think that someone like my self, just gets stamps and drops my packages  in a little blue USPS box? Do you think I do not know a lot more then you on this subject?( I do)

I can mail someone a package and make it come from Boston when I am in Los Angele's. Again, this is not about me and how I ship or what to do or not do. I only commented about tracking because YOU said that you could hunt me down.

I am sure I have mailed packages to the DEA. As long as the finalize fast and do not ask stupid questions,I am fine with it. I actually treat every single package as if it is going to the DEA or FBI.

Also I have been here for 1.5 years. And I have a perfect record for a reason.

Quote from: RxKing on August 08, 2013, 04:18 am

YOU have to be fucking kidding!! Jesus Christ, how in the world do you function on a daily basis??? You must be a prepper and believed in Y2k.

NO ONE has compromised a thing! Just like the other 300 times this has happened and all the crazies come in here and spread their paranoid bullshit.

I function quite well actually and for somebody who apparantly is so security concious as yourself, you'd know it was a serious matter. Oh, let me rephrase that, you outright reject the use of PGP despite it being recommended by every respected security orientated person here, you call astor a fool which he is not, you probably don't even follow any other guidelines for that matter regarding security. A king, you are only king of the fools. There is a reason DPR signs important stuff with his PGP code.

The whole "No PGP for the king" is total bullshit especially when nearly every vendor uses it and knows it's purpose. There is also a reason those who use PGP can be seen as those with a generally more secure approach to accessing SR and purchasing drugs. So don't try lecture me or call my reasoning for that out because for everything you think you have on me, there are many things I can point out on you as you'll find out in the upcoming vendor audit yourself. As a note, if I wanted to track you down IRL, it wouldn't take long and you're not the only vendor at risk here and something I have messaged DPR about to make a bannable offence if the practice continues.

DPR signs important stuff because you nut jobs always yell "FBI FBI" when he does not. And he actually forgets about 80% of the time.

Also, About the ONLY thing pgp is good for is to post a forum message and to prove you are the one with the Key to send it.

If pgp gives you security, then you are the fool.

My stance on PGP is well known. ITS FUCKING WORTHLESS.

But this thread is not about pgp. It is about the nut jobs that claim SR is taken over every single time SR go's down.


Also it is LAUGHABLE that you believe through tracking you could find me....that shows how LITTLE you know about true security. I do not doubt for one minute that you are a genius when it comes to computers....but when it comes to real life drug dealing, you know...the shit I do, you do not know shit. In fact you admit such.

And you CLEARLY do not know a fucking thing about USPS tracking. If you think that from tracking, you could see the ZIP CODE from where I ship, it just shows how little you know.

Quote from: Libertas on August 08, 2013, 04:05 am

Sorry guys, we'll get things back up and running asap!

And no, it's not "The End of the Road"!

Libertas

We'll believe you when it's back online If they've compromised the road, they can compromise the forum easy enough.

Staff - when SR is down like this, sign your messages because even if you post it from your account, it is meaningless as we can't verify the authenticity of the message.

YOU have to be fucking kidding!! Jesus Christ, how in the world do you function on a daily basis??? You must be a prepper and believed in Y2k.

NO ONE has compromised a thing! Just like the other 300 times this has happened and all the crazies come in here and spread their paranoid bullshit.