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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: cherkassy on August 31, 2012, 12:08 am

Title: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: cherkassy on August 31, 2012, 12:08 am
Hi, new to the road and forums. I love the idea of the road and how it works, but am I missing something? It seems that silkroad is always timing out, or unable to connect(as well as these forums) and it gets agitating as fuck. I hit refresh possibly every 30 minutes and I'm hit with the same bullshit. I try resetting Tor, as well as the entire computer and my router. So my question is, am I missing something, or are these servers suffering from constant dos attacks?

Any feedback appreciated!
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: BOGAN BOB on August 31, 2012, 12:56 am
Im having same prob since yesterday, tho its not always this bad...
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: fyg on August 31, 2012, 01:08 am
hey guys. this question has been asked a thousand times. if youre having problems logging in, just wait a few minutes and try again. in the meantime, check out the irc chat room and lurk there for a few minutes. if you still cant log in after a few minutes, wait a few more minutes and try again.

youre not missing anything here. the tor network has a limited capacity and not everyone can get thru everytime they want. just be patient and try again later.

Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: dingowombat on August 31, 2012, 01:23 am
It's gotten a lot worse over the last month. Earlier in the year I'd go for weeks without a single connection issue.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: tizzat on August 31, 2012, 01:27 am
The problem is probably not your computer. From what I understand something like 20% of tor servers are unable to connect to silkroad. I just keep clicking use a new identity, and refresh every 15 seconds till i find one that connect sometimes it takes 10 tries before i get one.

Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: Thirty_Rox on August 31, 2012, 01:35 am
You can check here if it's up, or not, and apparently it is down at the moment, and has been all day for me.

Just copy, and paste the URL:

http://zw3crggtadila2sg.onion
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: tizzat on August 31, 2012, 01:44 am
Well SR is up and I'm on it now. Try another tor server.


Yes (but with 302 error).... i assume that means the checker cant connect itself.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: cherkassy on August 31, 2012, 02:06 am
Yeah it seems to be functioning okay, but your theory about some nodes not being able to connect makes enough sense. I guess that's part of the darknet.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: dingowombat on August 31, 2012, 02:08 am
The problem is probably not your computer. From what I understand something like 20% of tor servers are unable to connect to silkroad. I just keep clicking use a new identity, and refresh every 15 seconds till i find one that connect sometimes it takes 10 tries before i get one.

Maybe Dread Pirate Roberts and some of the top vendors should use some of those profits to support the Tor network which supports them. If a certain percentage of profits goes to places like torservers.net then there will be a more solid network and a better buying experience for all. It's in everyone's best interest.

Hell, I'd be happy if they say there's a 0.25 BTC "tax" on all transactions which goes to Tor... or even a little checkbox which you can turn on in the shopping cart if you do want to support it.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: peels4u on August 31, 2012, 02:09 am
I have connection problems too.  I don't know what causes it, but it isn't too bad for the awesome thing that SR is though.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: tizzat on August 31, 2012, 02:15 am
There are plenty of TOR servers, and the amount of servers does not seem to be the issue. I find the issue is directly with specific onion's being blocked. For some reason almost no TOR servers inside the USA, AUS, UK, seem to be able to connect to silkroad. I'm telling you keep hitting USE a new identity and reload SILKROAD, wait about 20 seconds and try again...

I set my tor homepage to http://www.checkip.org, and if it even shows a anti drug country i just click new identity.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: Thirty_Rox on August 31, 2012, 03:19 am
Working for me now too.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: RR on August 31, 2012, 04:48 am
its all just part of the package, the true beauty of the site is not in the technical interface it provides but more in the end result, the freedom to be gained here, tor is a complete pain but with out it we would be lost, none of it possible so yeah it can take 30new ids just to load one page and many unable to connects and time outs in the process but where else are you going to be given the freedom thats rightfully yours to start with? i can understand cos sometimes it feels there is a time zone between the reliability of tor and everyday web but what you should be more happy about is the fact you found somewhere to be free and speak freely where you wont be judged and told you are wrong when you know you are right. thats what the site is about its a hole community of people.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: dingowombat on August 31, 2012, 05:04 am
There are plenty of TOR servers, and the amount of servers does not seem to be the issue. I find the issue is directly with specific onion's being blocked. For some reason almost no TOR servers inside the USA, AUS, UK, seem to be able to connect to silkroad. I'm telling you keep hitting USE a new identity and reload SILKROAD, wait about 20 seconds and try again...

I set my tor homepage to http://www.checkip.org, and if it even shows a anti drug country i just click new identity.

Wonder if you can blacklist certain tor exit nodes in your setup. Mmmm... time to go googlesploring...
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: tizzat on August 31, 2012, 05:50 am
Depends, not really with the standard client, but a lot of tor servers and bot net tor servers use different clients which can.  A lot of people who do that do it because they want to block out Pedo shit. There is a much larger tor community then just the drug/black market community, and a lot of people don't support the silkroad inside the tor network so I could see them setting up the blocking of the silkroad onion, along with the pedo onions.

But to be honest I somehow believe its the government forced ISP filters. (that supposedly do not exist in more then 90% of the countries that use them)

I for one know i setup an onion and went to use my own tor server, via Time Warner Communications and was unable to access silk road and i tried the pedo servers for shits and giggles and they didnt work either.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: Wadozo on August 31, 2012, 12:05 pm
You can purchase from certain vendors, (for me I chose  Enter the Matrix), an inexpensive guide on how to speed up your Tor browsing experience. It explains how to tweak the Firefox web browser by adjusting some of the internal settings to maximize it's performance. I've used this for a while now and have found it definitely improves the overall experience by offering a much faster browsing speed which can't be achieved with a standard Tor connection. Enter the Matrix is a most reputable and friendly vendor and for me, was a safer option to buy it from and a good choice looking back. Have a look around and see what's available at the moment.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: mito on August 31, 2012, 12:31 pm
rant rant rant

how the fuck do you all stand this?

MXE helps me alot.

Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on August 31, 2012, 03:19 pm
how the fuck can we stand it? 
we're all pretty high.



also, even with all the problems, SR is still more reliable than most local dealers.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: steady01 on August 31, 2012, 03:21 pm
rant rant rant

how the fuck do you all stand this?

MXE helps me alot.

Awesome.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: mito on August 31, 2012, 05:14 pm
OP, do you know about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherkassy_Pocket

Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: sselevol on August 31, 2012, 05:34 pm
My crippling drug addiction helps me get through the slow loading times.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: over_done_soup on August 31, 2012, 10:47 pm
zen patience

true changing identity can find a fast connection to SR, but when its down its down, usually only for 10-20mins be patient and check again after a cuppa and a splif or walk the dog or something, been down a lot lately at random times, buts its nothing new, been this way for over a year now, its a inconvenience sometimes but you get used to it eventually..
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: painbow on September 01, 2012, 05:09 am
404 patience not found
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: kmfkewm on September 02, 2012, 08:43 am
When this happens, stop trying to load SR. Completely. Change to a new identity in vidalia. Should fix things in many cases.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: sickgirl on September 02, 2012, 01:12 pm
There are plenty of TOR servers, and the amount of servers does not seem to be the issue. I find the issue is directly with specific onion's being blocked. For some reason almost no TOR servers inside the USA, AUS, UK, seem to be able to connect to silkroad. I'm telling you keep hitting USE a new identity and reload SILKROAD, wait about 20 seconds and try again...

I set my tor homepage to http://www.checkip.org, and if it even shows a anti drug country i just click new identity.

Wonder if you can blacklist certain tor exit nodes in your setup. Mmmm... time to go googlesploring...

Yes, you can. You edit your torcc file and use  #ExcludeNodes and the fingerprint of the node(s) you want to block. You can also use #StrictExit to use only specific exits, and #StrictEntry to use only specific entry nodes. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: lifesajoke on September 02, 2012, 01:48 pm
i use my two computer and enter the site on both keep hitting try again 2  3 OR 4 TIMES MAX

also sometimes ill try getting in through the forum which doesn't always load but has a higher chance of loading then SR.

LAST RESORT RESTART RESTART TOR AND REPEAT WHAT I SAID ABOVE....
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: RR on September 02, 2012, 04:45 pm
i find some connections work for SR and some work for the forum, its very rare to get a connection that will work for both at the same time, if i have the road running smoothly the forum refuses to load so i have to hit new id and that will make the forum work but the road then gives up, the solution i have found is to use silkroad on my pc and the forum on my laptop, the only issue is sometimes im looking at the wrong screen with the wrong mouse in my hand even though the laptop has a touch pad.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: wasta on September 02, 2012, 07:56 pm
You can purchase from certain vendors, (for me I chose  Enter the Matrix), an inexpensive guide on how to speed up your Tor browsing experience. It explains how to tweak the Firefox web browser by adjusting some of the internal settings to maximize it's performance. I've used this for a while now and have found it definitely improves the overall experience by offering a much faster browsing speed which can't be achieved with a standard Tor connection. Enter the Matrix is a most reputable and friendly vendor and for me, was a safer option to buy it from and a good choice looking back. Have a look around and see what's available at the moment.

Enter the matrix?

Can't you send me a copy?

To wastamo@tormail.org

Or upload it somewhere and place the link here on SR.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: RR on September 02, 2012, 08:05 pm
You can purchase from certain vendors, (for me I chose  Enter the Matrix), an inexpensive guide on how to speed up your Tor browsing experience. It explains how to tweak the Firefox web browser by adjusting some of the internal settings to maximize it's performance. I've used this for a while now and have found it definitely improves the overall experience by offering a much faster browsing speed which can't be achieved with a standard Tor connection. Enter the Matrix is a most reputable and friendly vendor and for me, was a safer option to buy it from and a good choice looking back. Have a look around and see what's available at the moment.

Enter the matrix?

Can't you send me a copy?

To wastamo@tormail.org

Or upload it somewhere and place the link here on SR.

this is completely against the point lol
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: EnterTheMatrix on September 03, 2012, 03:47 pm
You can purchase from certain vendors, (for me I chose  Enter the Matrix), an inexpensive guide on how to speed up your Tor browsing experience. It explains how to tweak the Firefox web browser by adjusting some of the internal settings to maximize it's performance. I've used this for a while now and have found it definitely improves the overall experience by offering a much faster browsing speed which can't be achieved with a standard Tor connection. Enter the Matrix is a most reputable and friendly vendor and for me, was a safer option to buy it from and a good choice looking back. Have a look around and see what's available at the moment.

Enter the matrix?

Can't you send me a copy?

To wastamo@tormail.org

Or upload it somewhere and place the link here on SR.

Or you could just BUY it... you cheapskate! :P

Matrix Tor Super Charge: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/dd50a84ca7

BTW... Thank you RR & Wadozo :)

Respectfully,

Matrix  8)
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: JIM MORRISON on September 03, 2012, 05:53 pm
I've noticed SR, SR Forums and Tormail all under DOS (Denial of Service) attack at some times during the day.

Changing your Firefox browser settings helps a little, as does using Linux.   >:(
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: NorCalKing on September 03, 2012, 08:03 pm
You can purchase from certain vendors, (for me I chose  Enter the Matrix), an inexpensive guide on how to speed up your Tor browsing experience. It explains how to tweak the Firefox web browser by adjusting some of the internal settings to maximize it's performance. I've used this for a while now and have found it definitely improves the overall experience by offering a much faster browsing speed which can't be achieved with a standard Tor connection. Enter the Matrix is a most reputable and friendly vendor and for me, was a safer option to buy it from and a good choice looking back. Have a look around and see what's available at the moment.

Enter the matrix?

Can't you send me a copy?

To wastamo@tormail.org

Or upload it somewhere and place the link here on SR.

Or you could just BUY it... you cheapskate! :P

Matrix Tor Super Charge: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/dd50a84ca7

BTW... Thank you RR :)

Respectfully,

Matrix  8)


+1!  Think we'll BUY a copy as well!!
However I have noticed that when I've checked to see if SR is down, & find out that it is, I can still get in if I use this url which adds a .to  after onion . . .

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion.to/silkroad/home

you get sent to a different onion page & then click on the link, but it seems to work for SR & forums.  Don't know if it impacts anonymous browsing or not,  haven't done much with it, just know it will connect when you can't access it otherwise.  We'll let the experts weigh in on the ramifications! 


NCK
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: WWProviders on September 04, 2012, 10:58 am
Seems to be a few ideas of what could be causing it, Hope you all report to SR
Support, the sooner they know the better.

"404 patience not found" :] Hahaha

Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: RR on September 04, 2012, 01:26 pm
maybe its time for a url change, not a complete change just a small edit in the random part of the address, cos the reliability of tor seems to depend on the site you are on, some connections work for the forum, and not the site and some times the other way around, but not as often, and if i get a connection that refuses both i try encrypted google and that always comes up no matter what, also if people make donations to torproject.org we will see a big increase in reliability. 
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: sickgirl on September 04, 2012, 04:00 pm
+1 RR, excellent idea
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: fuckingACE on September 04, 2012, 08:42 pm
I think I posted in the last thread,  If you set the logging level to capture informational events in the messaging section of the TOR client and try to connect while there are issues you can see a few odd things happening.

Firstly:
sep 04 21:51:38.542 [Notice] Tried for 120 seconds to get a connection to [scrubbed]:80. Giving up. (waiting for circuit)
sep 04 21:51:38.544 [Notice] Tried for 120 seconds to get a connection to [scrubbed]:80. Giving up. (waiting for circuit)
sep 04 21:52:00.708 [Warning] Query '[scrubbed]' didn't have valid rend desc in cache. Failing.
sep 04 21:52:00.709 [Warning] Query '[scrubbed]' didn't have valid rend desc in cache. Failing.
sep 04 21:54:51.617 [Warning] Invalid onion hostname [scrubbed]; rejecting
sep 04 21:56:31.976 [Warning] Invalid onion hostname [scrubbed]; rejecting
sep 04 21:56:58.855 [Warning] Invalid onion hostname [scrubbed]; rejecting
sep 04 21:58:31.543 [Notice] Rend stream is 120 seconds late. Giving up on address '[scrubbed].onion'.
sep 04 21:58:32.540 [Notice] Rend stream is 120 seconds late. Giving up on address '[scrubbed].onion'.

The invalid onion hostname would suggest that the DNS resolution is not occurring.. As the name is correct in the address bar.. I don't know how DNS resolution works within TOR I assume it being a TCP connection that it is the same.. But my guess  would be that maybe there a  DDOS attack on the name servers occurring or DNS cache posioning on the DNS servers that point to silk road servers?? This is like pure guess as I have no Idea how TOR works other than tunneling connections through different hosts :/ So I may be completely wrong and its just that too many peeeps are trying to log in at the same time :D But i doubt it... DDOS is my bet.. and I bet its that American cyber defense whatever they call themselves department doing it...
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: JIM MORRISON on September 04, 2012, 09:18 pm
As well as Linux, older versions of Windows such as XP appear largely unaffected. SR is just as "easy" to load as before. However with Vista, from the UK its near impossible. 

With modern PC's the Hard drive is more than big enough to dual boot with XP. If you weren't happy with that you could get a Hdd drive caddy and just swap in a new Hdd loaded with XP and TOR for when you wanted to surf SR or the SR forum.

:)  :) :)
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: RR on September 04, 2012, 09:28 pm
As well as Linux, older versions of Windows such as XP appear largely unaffected. SR is just as "easy" to load as before. However with Vista, from the UK its near impossible. 

With modern PC's the Hard drive is more than big enough to dual boot with XP. If you weren't happy with that you could get a Hdd drive caddy and just swap in a new Hdd loaded with XP and TOR for when you wanted to surf SR or the SR forum.

:)  :) :)

really this is interesting, im running windows 7 on both pc and laptop, im going to set up a windows xp partition and see what the difference is as im uk and having a complete nightmare trying to access the road, took me over an hour to place one order today.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: sickgirl on September 05, 2012, 05:30 am
I think I posted in the last thread,  If you set the logging level to capture informational events in the messaging section of the TOR client and try to connect while there are issues you can see a few odd things happening.

Firstly:
sep 04 21:51:38.542 [Notice] Tried for 120 seconds to get a connection to [scrubbed]:80. Giving up. (waiting for circuit)
sep 04 21:51:38.544 [Notice] Tried for 120 seconds to get a connection to [scrubbed]:80. Giving up. (waiting for circuit)
sep 04 21:52:00.708 [Warning] Query '[scrubbed]' didn't have valid rend desc in cache. Failing.
sep 04 21:52:00.709 [Warning] Query '[scrubbed]' didn't have valid rend desc in cache. Failing.
sep 04 21:54:51.617 [Warning] Invalid onion hostname [scrubbed]; rejecting
sep 04 21:56:31.976 [Warning] Invalid onion hostname [scrubbed]; rejecting
sep 04 21:56:58.855 [Warning] Invalid onion hostname [scrubbed]; rejecting
sep 04 21:58:31.543 [Notice] Rend stream is 120 seconds late. Giving up on address '[scrubbed].onion'.
sep 04 21:58:32.540 [Notice] Rend stream is 120 seconds late. Giving up on address '[scrubbed].onion'.

The invalid onion hostname would suggest that the DNS resolution is not occurring.. As the name is correct in the address bar.. I don't know how DNS resolution works within TOR I assume it being a TCP connection that it is the same.. But my guess  would be that maybe there a  DDOS attack on the name servers occurring or DNS cache posioning on the DNS servers that point to silk road servers?? This is like pure guess as I have no Idea how TOR works other than tunneling connections through different hosts :/ So I may be completely wrong and its just that too many peeeps are trying to log in at the same time :D But i doubt it... DDOS is my bet.. and I bet its that American cyber defense whatever they call themselves department doing it...

Well, the invalid onion hostname? When you see that, switch tabs from advanced to basic on your message log window, you will see that what that is is an application on your computer attempting to connect to the internet, and it can't because it is not configured for tor. Query scrubbed is what usually occurs whenever you click use a new identity.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: sickgirl on September 05, 2012, 05:34 am
As well as Linux, older versions of Windows such as XP appear largely unaffected. SR is just as "easy" to load as before. However with Vista, from the UK its near impossible. 

With modern PC's the Hard drive is more than big enough to dual boot with XP. If you weren't happy with that you could get a Hdd drive caddy and just swap in a new Hdd loaded with XP and TOR for when you wanted to surf SR or the SR forum.

:)  :) :)

I am running tor on 3 different computers. (t desktops, and a laptop.) the laptop and one desktop are using linux (2 different distros) and the other desktop is using FreeBSD, and I still have the same issues with connecting as windows users. Not that I am complaining, I just keep clicking use a new identity until I can connect.  I think this is just an issue of blocking nodes, as earlier today, I examined info for a ton of tor nodes, entry, exit, and midpoint, and I configured my torc specifically to use non U.S., non Canadian and non U.K. entry and exits, and I seem to have no problem connecting now. I think this is a case of the strict anti drug nations blocking, which seems a lot more plausible that a DDoS.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: fuckingACE on September 05, 2012, 09:12 am
As well as Linux, older versions of Windows such as XP appear largely unaffected. SR is just as "easy" to load as before. However with Vista, from the UK its near impossible. 

With modern PC's the Hard drive is more than big enough to dual boot with XP. If you weren't happy with that you could get a Hdd drive caddy and just swap in a new Hdd loaded with XP and TOR for when you wanted to surf SR or the SR forum.

:)  :) :)

I am running tor on 3 different computers. (t desktops, and a laptop.) the laptop and one desktop are using linux (2 different distros) and the other desktop is using FreeBSD, and I still have the same issues with connecting as windows users. Not that I am complaining, I just keep clicking use a new identity until I can connect.  I think this is just an issue of blocking nodes, as earlier today, I examined info for a ton of tor nodes, entry, exit, and midpoint, and I configured my torc specifically to use non U.S., non Canadian and non U.K. entry and exits, and I seem to have no problem connecting now. I think this is a case of the strict anti drug nations blocking, which seems a lot more plausible that a DDoS.

Ummmmmm :D Start a thread where you can show me how to do that  :-* I´ll get you a present if you make the timeouts go away :P
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: JIM MORRISON on September 05, 2012, 10:08 am
I can only speak for myself and my own PC setup. But since Friday or whenever the troubles began I've been able to log onto SR and SR Forums with the usual pre-problems level of difficulty. There are still occasional time-outs - but I'm running both SR and SR Forums concurrently, processing orders, answering messages and posting on the forum - all without pulling out any hair or signs of premature ageing.

And yet if I really want to hurt my brain I can easily spend 20 mins trying to log on to SR via Vista with no joy at all, even when regularly changing identities etc.

As to learning to dual-boot: Google it or better still look for a Tutorial on YouTube. Shouldn't take more than 25 min once you've watched the video and obtained XP.

Good luck!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: JIM MORRISON on September 05, 2012, 10:24 am
For those who wish to Dual Boot XP with Windows 7

Just throw this into your browser!  8)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_X32JKnNC0&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: sickgirl on September 05, 2012, 10:38 am
For those who wish to Dual Boot XP with Windows 7

Just throw this into your browser!  8)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_X32JKnNC0&feature=relmfu

+1 Jim. I am an avid windows hater, but I am all for anything that increases peoples tech skills in any way shape or form. Btw Mr Morrison, I think you should have stuck it out with Patricia Keneally, after all, Pam just seemed a little to tame for your wild rock n roll, peyote lifestyle ;D
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: Stimi_Pete on September 05, 2012, 11:09 am
I am just using Windows XP with the TOR browser and I've been having these issues a week of 2 now. Would using Firefox or another program still in Windows be quicker than the TOR browser? I noticed the ETM faster browsing guide doesn't apply to TOR browser.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: RR on September 05, 2012, 01:16 pm
I am just using Windows XP with the TOR browser and I've been having these issues a week of 2 now. Would using Firefox or another program still in Windows be quicker than the TOR browser? I noticed the ETM faster browsing guide doesn't apply to TOR browser.

No i have spent all morning setting up a xp partition on my pc and a linux partition on my laptop, and i have the exact same problems on every platform, i think sickgirl may be spot on here, its the big nations blocking the url, the only fix i can see is changing the url slightly, im interested in learning how to set tor up using only certain exit nodes, cos the exit node is your final connection to the net, so if its in the uk, usa or another country that blocks the silkroad url you will never get that final connection to the site 
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: Kopitewarrior on September 05, 2012, 03:03 pm
You can purchase from certain vendors, (for me I chose  Enter the Matrix), an inexpensive guide on how to speed up your Tor browsing experience. It explains how to tweak the Firefox web browser by adjusting some of the internal settings to maximize it's performance. I've used this for a while now and have found it definitely improves the overall experience by offering a much faster browsing speed which can't be achieved with a standard Tor connection. Enter the Matrix is a most reputable and friendly vendor and for me, was a safer option to buy it from and a good choice looking back. Have a look around and see what's available at the moment.

Enter the matrix?

Can't you send me a copy?

To wastamo@tormail.org

Or upload it somewhere and place the link here on SR.

Or you could just BUY it... you cheapskate! :P

Matrix Tor Super Charge: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/dd50a84ca7

BTW... Thank you RR :)

Respectfully,

Matrix  8)


+1!  Think we'll BUY a copy as well!!
However I have noticed that when I've checked to see if SR is down, & find out that it is, I can still get in if I use this url which adds a .to  after onion . . .

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion.to/silkroad/home

you get sent to a different onion page & then click on the link, but it seems to work for SR & forums.  Don't know if it impacts anonymous browsing or not,  haven't done much with it, just know it will connect when you can't access it otherwise.  We'll let the experts weigh in on the ramifications! 


NCK

Ok so this definitely works, but is it safe? Seemed to give me the impression I was off the tor network?
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: sickgirl on September 05, 2012, 03:30 pm
I am just using Windows XP with the TOR browser and I've been having these issues a week of 2 now. Would using Firefox or another program still in Windows be quicker than the TOR browser? I noticed the ETM faster browsing guide doesn't apply to TOR browser.

No i have spent all morning setting up a xp partition on my pc and a linux partition on my laptop, and i have the exact same problems on every platform, i think sickgirl may be spot on here, its the big nations blocking the url, the only fix i can see is changing the url slightly, im interested in learning how to set tor up using only certain exit nodes, cos the exit node is your final connection to the net, so if its in the uk, usa or another country that blocks the silkroad url you will never get that final connection to the site

Your wish is my command :) I am already in the process of writing a tutorial on how to do this for a friend, and someone else on here is getting a copy as well. I can PM it to you when I am done. It is going to take a few days however, because I have a lot of things going on right now, i.e. wondering where my package is, and procrastinating ;)
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: RR on September 05, 2012, 04:21 pm
I am just using Windows XP with the TOR browser and I've been having these issues a week of 2 now. Would using Firefox or another program still in Windows be quicker than the TOR browser? I noticed the ETM faster browsing guide doesn't apply to TOR browser.

No i have spent all morning setting up a xp partition on my pc and a linux partition on my laptop, and i have the exact same problems on every platform, i think sickgirl may be spot on here, its the big nations blocking the url, the only fix i can see is changing the url slightly, im interested in learning how to set tor up using only certain exit nodes, cos the exit node is your final connection to the net, so if its in the uk, usa or another country that blocks the silkroad url you will never get that final connection to the site

Your wish is my command :) I am already in the process of writing a tutorial on how to do this for a friend, and someone else on here is getting a copy as well. I can PM it to you when I am done. It is going to take a few days however, because I have a lot of things going on right now, i.e. wondering where my package is, and procrastinating ;)

good to hear that sickgirl, and ive got that i wonder where my package is feeling as well lol, i hate the waiting for the postman.....
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: RR on September 05, 2012, 04:24 pm

Ok so this definitely works, but is it safe? Seemed to give me the impression I was off the tor network?

this works but im not putting my details in here unless admin say its safe
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: sickgirl on September 05, 2012, 04:44 pm

Ok so this definitely works, but is it safe? Seemed to give me the impression I was off the tor network?

this works but im not putting my details in here unless admin say its safe

It is NOT safe. This is the same as using tor2web. Basically, it is a proxy run by (?!?!?) that connects you to tor onions via the clear web. Fuck that. Unless you already have a vpn and another proxy chain going, I would not risk it.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: czxtvr on September 05, 2012, 09:00 pm
Patience and Perseverance = Success
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: Kopitewarrior on September 05, 2012, 10:07 pm
Ok so that proxy is not safe. So what do we do? This is pretty annoying to say the least. I mean, I know what a great job the SR admins do and all but some explanation/help would be great.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: Wazup7 on September 05, 2012, 11:59 pm
Typically, I need to get a New Identity through Tor when i can't connect to Silk Road.  Recently, like in the past week or two, I've needed to try multiple "New Identities" in order to get a good enough circuit through the network that won't time out.  I guess because some identities take circuits that involve really slow nodes, so the traffic doesn't make it's round trip in time before the browser times out.  It seems like when I do find the right Identity, SR is very fast and responsive.

Which brings me to my question--if countries are blocking the URL, would this still translate to a Timeout if your circuit exits in one of those countries?  Like if my request leaves the exit node and the URL is blocked, will Tor just sit there until I get the timeout on my end?  Or will it send me some kind of error from the exit node, along the lines of "the URL is not valid"?

Also, do we know for a fact that countries are blocking the URL, and that this is for a fact the reason why SR is timing out more often recently?  Can someone link to a source?  That's an interesting tactic, considering that a country will NOT stop it's citizens from accessing SR by blocking the URL from exit nodes...thats the whole point of Tor after all........
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: sickgirl on September 06, 2012, 12:26 pm
Typically, I need to get a New Identity through Tor when i can't connect to Silk Road.  Recently, like in the past week or two, I've needed to try multiple "New Identities" in order to get a good enough circuit through the network that won't time out.  I guess because some identities take circuits that involve really slow nodes, so the traffic doesn't make it's round trip in time before the browser times out.  It seems like when I do find the right Identity, SR is very fast and responsive.

Which brings me to my question--if countries are blocking the URL, would this still translate to a Timeout if your circuit exits in one of those countries?  Like if my request leaves the exit node and the URL is blocked, will Tor just sit there until I get the timeout on my end?  Or will it send me some kind of error from the exit node, along the lines of "the URL is not valid"?

Also, do we know for a fact that countries are blocking the URL, and that this is for a fact the reason why SR is timing out more often recently?  Can someone link to a source?  That's an interesting tactic, considering that a country will NOT stop it's citizens from accessing SR by blocking the URL from exit nodes...thats the whole point of Tor after all........

You want links to a source that tells you if tor relays can block certain sites, or ip's? Ok, lol  here [ClearNet Warning] http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/  http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/tor_exit_query.php click on a tor node, it will tell you if they are an exit, a fast node, flagged as a bad exit, bandwidth, gaurd node or not, country of origen, and most of all, THEIR BLOCKING POLICIES ;) The second url is a tool to help see if a certain exit blocks a certain site or ip. You can then edit your torcc file to use #StrictNodes, #StrictEntry, and/or #StrictExit. All this information is readily available online, you just have to look for it.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: JIM MORRISON on September 07, 2012, 11:53 am
Sorry installing XP hasn't worked for some people.  :)

BTW I have auto-updates switched off, a couple of service Packs on and the version of Tor Bundle is: "tor-browser-2.2.36-1_en-US.exe"

I removed the latest version just in case that was causing problems.

Been a week now and I'm easily logging into SR and the SR Forums no problem. (As in no worse than 1 month ago). Not using new identities or anything.

Maybe I'm just lucky? But my Vista installation still doesn't connect at all - or at least I haven't got the time or the patience to see if it will eventually connect. 25mins is about my limit there...

Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: mito on September 07, 2012, 12:06 pm
  :)


please come light my fire.....
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: RR on September 07, 2012, 11:11 pm
Typically, I need to get a New Identity through Tor when i can't connect to Silk Road.  Recently, like in the past week or two, I've needed to try multiple "New Identities" in order to get a good enough circuit through the network that won't time out.  I guess because some identities take circuits that involve really slow nodes, so the traffic doesn't make it's round trip in time before the browser times out.  It seems like when I do find the right Identity, SR is very fast and responsive.

Which brings me to my question--if countries are blocking the URL, would this still translate to a Timeout if your circuit exits in one of those countries?  Like if my request leaves the exit node and the URL is blocked, will Tor just sit there until I get the timeout on my end?  Or will it send me some kind of error from the exit node, along the lines of "the URL is not valid"?

Also, do we know for a fact that countries are blocking the URL, and that this is for a fact the reason why SR is timing out more often recently?  Can someone link to a source?  That's an interesting tactic, considering that a country will NOT stop it's citizens from accessing SR by blocking the URL from exit nodes...thats the whole point of Tor after all........

You want links to a source that tells you if tor relays can block certain sites, or ip's? Ok, lol  here [ClearNet Warning] http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/  http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/tor_exit_query.php click on a tor node, it will tell you if they are an exit, a fast node, flagged as a bad exit, bandwidth, gaurd node or not, country of origen, and most of all, THEIR BLOCKING POLICIES ;) The second url is a tool to help see if a certain exit blocks a certain site or ip. You can then edit your torcc file to use #StrictNodes, #StrictEntry, and/or #StrictExit. All this information is readily available online, you just have to look for it.

well i learnt one thing by going to that url and thats my laptop is a complete pussy it completely crashed my hole system, its a large page to load with thousands of  nodes listed, i didnt know there where so many nodes active, i got it to load on the pc but couldn't see anything on the blocking polices
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: nosaj_thing on September 08, 2012, 07:15 pm
benzodiazepines help  :D
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: mnak on September 12, 2012, 03:01 pm
You can purchase from certain vendors, (for me I chose  Enter the Matrix), an inexpensive guide on how to speed up your Tor browsing experience. It explains how to tweak the Firefox web browser by adjusting some of the internal settings to maximize it's performance. I've used this for a while now and have found it definitely improves the overall experience by offering a much faster browsing speed which can't be achieved with a standard Tor connection. Enter the Matrix is a most reputable and friendly vendor and for me, was a safer option to buy it from and a good choice looking back. Have a look around and see what's available at the moment.

Enter the matrix?

Can't you send me a copy?

To wastamo@tormail.org

Or upload it somewhere and place the link here on SR.

Or you could just BUY it... you cheapskate! :P
I respectfully disagree from buying tuning guides for tor.  tor is a community offered service for the good of all.  People have spent a lot of time developing/configuring the software that makes tor work often with nothing in return.  People are allowing us to use their systems and network as relays for free.  To make a profit on top of all these people offering their time/resources for free seems wrong.

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: Aseras on September 13, 2012, 02:11 pm
Try the obfsproxy build of the tor bundle. It's MUCH faster.

I do my SR and torrenting on a virtual machine over a vpn, tor and obfsproxy on top.
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: sickgirl on September 13, 2012, 07:21 pm
You want the time outs to cease? Check out the link in my signature ;) xoxo sickgirl
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: RR on September 14, 2012, 03:53 am
introducing the best most in depth tutorial the road has seen yet, this is the fix we have been waiting for, it explains in easy steps how to reconfigure the nodes that Tor uses by not allowing known problem nodes in to circuits it builds and by restricting the entry and exit nodes it uses and not only can you rule out hole counties but also individual nodes. there is also a long list of known nodes that should be excluded like ones run by the FBI and Governments.

and do i think people should pay yes because i have spent 3weeks of my life just like Sickgirl has to Writting and researching, there is a postal option on the listing for people who would like to donate to tor and we will convert coins and pass them on.
 
Title: Re: Time outs, unable to connect, how the fuck do you all stand this?
Post by: bernlin on September 14, 2012, 08:13 pm
Hi, new to the road and forums. I love the idea of the road and how it works, but am I missing something? It seems that silkroad is always timing out, or unable to connect(as well as these forums) and it gets agitating as fuck. I hit refresh possibly every 30 minutes and I'm hit with the same bullshit. I try resetting Tor, as well as the entire computer and my router. So my question is, am I missing something, or are these servers suffering from constant dos attacks?

Any feedback appreciated!

It happens on SR, nothing you can do about it except be patient. Refresh every couple minutes, not every 30 seconds. Also, when the screen does pop up I always try to log in right away, in case things time out again. Once you're on the site I rarely have problems, it just seems to happen on the initial login.