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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: DarTarus on August 30, 2012, 10:36 pm
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I love acid and believe I have found my two vendors of choice on here (Jergen and Aakoven)
The LSD I normally get from them is quite good but I've learned that it takes about 3 hits to get a good high and 5 hits to get a strong 'trip'
That's coming from what seems to be their regular stock - advertised as being anywhere from 120-200 mg a hit
As I ramped up to taking 5 hits 2 weekends ago I thought for a little while that I MIGHT have overdone it.....it's hard to "measure" your LSD dose after all
Has anyone taken enough LSD that they actually wound up having physical symptoms that scared them?
How about a trip that you thought "might not end"
I've never been quite there with LSD but believe I have found a good limit on the blotters I'm getting from these two vendors and that's the most important thing......3 hits brings a good high --- 5 brings the 'trip'
Having said that I am taking LSD once / week now so there might be some tolerance going on as well
Anyone have any experiences where they've taken too much acid?
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there were a couple people in I believe the 60's that did lines of it, thinking it was cocaine....so if they only did a .1g line of it that's like taking 100,000 tabs of acid with 100mcg on them each....they did end up going to the hospital, but I dont think there were any really lasting effects....I could be wrong though, it was a long time ago that I read that article
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No FE pretty much says what I've read... it's an insane headrush and can send people over the edge for a while, but usually not irreversibly.
I've never felt like I'm way over my head, but to include my recent experiment, here's what happened:
I decided to see whether a 10-strip from Jannis would start prodding at those limits. I never came up that quickly before, took me about 10-15 mins to start seeing the visual effects that I usually notice closer to the one-hour mark. I started sweating quite heavily and got a tad nauseous and caught myself thinking "uh oh, have I overdone it?"
Had the most glorious and life-affirming trip in a looooooong while. But yeah, I can't imagine what several thousand mics would do to me :|
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There arent any physical issues you need to worry about just make sure your ok mentally.
60s were full of thumbprints, people taking incredibly high doses through their skin. Physically it didnt damage them but im sure there's probably a few in the nut house.
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Retaining mental health should be the chief concern. Large doses of LSD will not kill you directly at all.
If you are tripping beyond what you are comfortable with you have taken too large a dose. It's very unlikely that that would cause you any physiological harm, but mental well-being is another matter entirely.
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THas anyone taken enough LSD that they actually wound up having physical symptoms that scared them?
Yes, but it was probably just paranoia on my part.
How about a trip that you thought "might not end"
This happened to me once on a very high dose of LSD (and once on mushrooms as well). It was a terrible experience. I thought I was in some kind of purgatory, and that the trip would go on forever. It happened when I first started dropping acid, and it was my own fault for completely disregarding set and setting. I also took a dosage that was far too high for a novice.
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Suicide is a real possibility on LSD if you have have a predisposition to a mental illness and also completely disregard set and setting. In my one very bad trip, I was contemplating suicide as a serious means of escape. So when I hear stories (which are often dismissed as urban legends) of people killing themselves on acid, I'm inclined to believe such stories.
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Retaining mental health should be the chief concern. Large doses of LSD will not kill you directly at all.
Not directly no, but if you have a heart condition I imagine anxiety from an especially intense trip could set off a heart attack. Not the LSDs fault of course, sky diving, good sex, or numerous other things can also trigger heart attacks.
But it's is something to be aware of.
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i dont doubt lsd's potential to increase suicidal thoughts in some. I have not experienced them, but i've been on several lsd experiences and understand that if its in you its in you.
the only thing that worries me (and this hasnt happened yet) would be if i began to trivialize it like i did with my marijuana use.
just have it become just a thing. ya know. like blowing it down everyday. just a thing. whatever.
i dont think it will, because i do think that there is a finite amount of information to learn on/from the perspective of lsd, and when I go on that trip, i will stop doing most all drugs for a long while.
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Indirect death is certainly an option - it could be medical like hear failure, but also the result of getting a crazy idea that it would be fun to jump in front of a bus to enjoy the view during its ride. I'd consider that a mental health issue though.
If you are healthy to begin with, no reasonable dose of lsd will kill you as long as you cannot get yourself into a dangerous situation - if you just decide to trip out in a (hotel) bed you will be okay, if you decide to play first person frogger on a highway you will most likely not be.
This could be said about many drugs, but taking a 5 time overdose of alcohol could easily kill you by itself, while a similar overdose of lsd or cannabis would not, unless you actually go out and do something stupid enough to be fatal.
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I tripped on about 350ug once and found it extremely intense and mentally uncomfortable, definitely had a couple of trips that have changed the way I view the world, and sometimes have felt rather weird for up to a week but overall nothing long lasting or physical.
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If you are healthy to begin with, no reasonable dose of lsd will kill you as long as you cannot get yourself into a dangerous situation - if you just decide to trip out in a (hotel) bed you will be okay, if you decide to play first person frogger on a highway you will most likely not be.
Even an unreasonable dose. I took 16 blotters once when I was a teenager and have taken other double digit or close to double digit doses. Not sure on the number of mics but the 16 hit dose was strong enough I saw the most gorgeous sunset when my buddy saw nothing but gray skies. I know people who have been puddled at greatful dead shows and thus probably took five times what I did.
And of course, there's the stories of people doing thumbprints, and thus dosages measured in milligrams rather than mics.
Preexisting mental/physical problems aside, as long as you have a sitter to make sure you don't do something dumb, there's no evidence that LSD can kill you at any dosage the average user will ever have available. Maybe if you IVd a gram (1,000 milligrams/100,000 mics) you'd be in trouble. Even then though I'm not sure. Basically you'd need to intentionally try to OD on an amount of crystal LSD that most won't ever see.
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i tried aakovens alice in wonder land tabs a few months back now and done 2 both at the same time and they where advertized at 125ug but they tasted funny like soap and a bit fizzy, they didnt really do much, the most was the letters on the pc screen wobbled side to side once or twice but it didnt last long and a slight feeling of peoples personality's coming over to me as i read there posts, almost like they where talking to me, but two hours and it had worn off but i was awake all night and finally had enough in the early hours and took a 30mg dose of valium, im not saying they aint got acid in them just no 125ug or maybe i got a corner of the sheet that had a lower dose, my next try was from jannis and this was really honestly dosed i brought 5 100ug and done 3 to start with and the effects felt like 10x the first try and ended up doing all 5 before the effects fully kicked in, this was an interesting night and i started texting people big mistake everyone thought id lost it lol, but on this occasion i had no valium to hand and no weed either, the best tip i have is when ever you are playing with psychedelics make sure you have valium at hand for an emergency cos there is nothing worse than being stuck in time and having no escape. felt like this trip went on for an eternity, messed up night and i could still fell the effects a day later. 500ug is my preferred dose :)
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You should read this thread over at the shroomery about thumbprints: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1427364
Excellent info.
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this thread only reminds me how great LSD is... i wonder what someone's mental state is after taking a fucking thumbprint
i suppose driving while tripping could be taking it "too far", although i have unwisely driven whilst tripping on numerous occasions...
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this thread only reminds me how great LSD is... i wonder what someone's mental state is after taking a fucking thumbprint
i suppose driving while tripping could be taking it "too far", although i have unwisely driven whilst tripping on numerous occasions...
After coming down or as soon as you suck it off your thumb?
Everything I've heard about it is you throw up within a few minutes and you're in for one hell of a ride. Most reports say your mind "shatters" and the closest thing to put it into words was "I died a thousand deaths."
You need a sitter for up to a week as you can't really function.
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maybe I am too old but I dont want to go over maybe 350-400µg and even this dose just a few times a year.
my normal dose to party is somewhere between 70 - 170µg and I aim for 130µg. Seems to be my/our sweet spot.
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this thread only reminds me how great LSD is... i wonder what someone's mental state is after taking a fucking thumbprint
i suppose driving while tripping could be taking it "too far", although i have unwisely driven whilst tripping on numerous occasions...
come on man, seriously, driving while you are tripping? this is the most irresponsible thing i have ever heard, you are asking for trouble if you get behind a wheel while your in this state, acid is distracting at the best of times, there is way to much going on while driving, your lucky you got away with that one, i wouldnt do that again though.
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this thread only reminds me how great LSD is... i wonder what someone's mental state is after taking a fucking thumbprint
i suppose driving while tripping could be taking it "too far", although i have unwisely driven whilst tripping on numerous occasions...
come on man, seriously, driving while you are tripping? this is the most irresponsible thing i have ever heard, you are asking for trouble if you get behind a wheel while your in this state, acid is distracting at the best of times, there is way to much going on while driving, your lucky you got away with that one, i wouldnt do that again though.
having sadly done both, I'm not sure driving on LSD is any more dangerous then driving drunk, both are extremely irresponsible, and should not be done. I regret the times I endangered myself and everyone else by doing it
i've survived several 5,000-10,000ug doses, several times to the point open eye visuals were as strong as closed eye. never seen anyone do a thumbprint, noidea
my worst ever trip was probably 500ug one, where the setting changed and my set went to hell, and so did I
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there were a couple people in I believe the 60's that did lines of it, thinking it was cocaine....so if they only did a .1g line of it that's like taking 100,000 tabs of acid with 100mcg on them each....they did end up going to the hospital, but I dont think there were any really lasting effects....I could be wrong though, it was a long time ago that I read that article
Some have died from sniffing massive overdoses of LSD crystal, others have lived but got a laundry list of nasty effects including bleeding through their skin. Of course these are doses equal to thousands of hits.
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Some have died from sniffing massive overdoses of LSD crystal, others have lived but got a laundry list of nasty effects including bleeding through their skin. Of course these are doses equal to thousands of hits.
People you know?
"For those concerned about immediate medical hazards in ingesting LSD [...] Abram Hoffer has estimated, on the basis of animal studies, that the half-lethal human dose--meaning half would die (a standard measure for drugs)--would be about 14,000 [ug]. But one person who took 40 mg. (40,000 [ug]) survived. In the only case of death reportedly caused by overdose ([Griggs and Ward, 1977]), the quantity of LSD in the blood indicated that 320 mg. (320,000 [ug]) had been injected intravenously."
That's one of two incidents. The second was documented so poorly there's a huge amount of question about it. The one above there was a month between the time he died and the time the autopsy was performed (because the body was discovered in an abandoned warehouse.) So there's still some question.
So unless you know of undocumented cases from first hand experience I'm going to take what you said with a grain of salt.
The skin bleeding thing might be true though it wouldn't be permanent. The group that snorted a bunch of LSD thinking it was coke did experience some blood problems.
"Bleeding was mild and disappeared within 4 to 6 hr. Blood transfusions were unnecessary and all patients recovered completely within 12 hr. All were discharged or left the hospital within 48 hr of admission."
Also... "All eight were reported to have snorted at least two "lines" (rows of powder measuring approximately 3 x 4 x 30 mm) of the second substance." That's a lot of crystal.
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Not people I know but documented cases.
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I could find no documented cases of people dying from snorting LSD. The only 'well' documented cases I found are the two I cited above. One of which there's very little actual information on.
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In the only case of death reportedly caused by overdose ([Griggs and Ward, 1977]), the quantity of LSD in the blood indicated that 320 mg. (320,000 [ug]) had been injected intravenously.
if i remember correctly that was some old man on his death bed and asked for this...awesome way of euthanasia!
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In the only case of death reportedly caused by overdose ([Griggs and Ward, 1977]), the quantity of LSD in the blood indicated that 320 mg. (320,000 [ug]) had been injected intravenously.
if i remember correctly that was some old man on his death bed and asked for this...awesome way of euthanasia!
if i had to chose a way to die this would be the way i would go, total over load of acid, it would be interesting i think....
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In the only case of death reportedly caused by overdose ([Griggs and Ward, 1977]), the quantity of LSD in the blood indicated that 320 mg. (320,000 [ug]) had been injected intravenously.
if i remember correctly that was some old man on his death bed and asked for this...awesome way of euthanasia!
if i had to chose a way to die this would be the way i would go, total over load of acid, it would be interesting i think....
Does not sound like a good way to pass out for me.
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In the only case of death reportedly caused by overdose ([Griggs and Ward, 1977]), the quantity of LSD in the blood indicated that 320 mg. (320,000 [ug]) had been injected intravenously.
if i remember correctly that was some old man on his death bed and asked for this...awesome way of euthanasia!
if i had to chose a way to die this would be the way i would go, total over load of acid, it would be interesting i think....
Does not sound like a good way to pass out for me.
Agreed, I can't imagine what that would do to you. I'd rather still be alive and enjoying more doses.
Is the source on the lethal dose 100%? I've read reports that it apparently wasn't the cause of death, but I can't imagine what else it would have been.
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If you're worried about it going too far, stock up on Xanax or Valium and have it ready as an emergency "rip-cord". Will at the very least chill you out of anything bad, and in a best case knock you out to sleep.
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If you're worried about it going too far, stock up on Xanax or Valium and have it ready as an emergency "rip-cord". Will at the very least chill you out of anything bad, and in a best case knock you out to sleep.
I tried it. on a estimated dose of 350µg and a bad trip benzos did nothing to me.. I was chilled but the trip did not stop. I was stuck in my loops.....
Only thing that really hepls are neuroleptica and the strong ones ... halperidol or such. Just sain... =)
But benzos can bring you in the right direction, just takeing them and believing will help most of the time.
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I like it so much that I have LSD tattoed on my forehead :D does that count as taking it too far? Jk
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How about a trip that you thought "might not end"
Yep. I had this after 2 blotters. Rather scary.
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there were a couple people in I believe the 60's that did lines of it, thinking it was cocaine....so if they only did a .1g line of it that's like taking 100,000 tabs of acid with 100mcg on them each....they did end up going to the hospital, but I dont think there were any really lasting effects....I could be wrong though, it was a long time ago that I read that article
Some have died from sniffing massive overdoses of LSD crystal, others have lived but got a laundry list of nasty effects including bleeding through their skin. Of course these are doses equal to thousands of hits.
There's some really good information in here and I thank you guys for adding to the convo
DOB seems rougher on my body than LSD so when I've mixed the two I've wound up with some concerns on the physical front but LSD -- so far --- hasn't caused any physical problems
the 5 tab experience from AAkoven's stash was VERY GOOD and I had to sit the *F* down for a little while (was doing yard work....you should SEE my shrubs!!!) but nothing bad came of it
THANKS!
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the 5 tab experience from AAkoven's stash was VERY GOOD and I had to sit the *F* down for a little while (was doing yard work....you should SEE my shrubs!!!) but nothing bad came of it
You took 5 tabs and did yard work on your shrubs? I can understand if you looked at your shrubs, or even just sat on them... I can't imagine doing anything resembling work while tripping though:) Did you cut back your shrubs "Too Far" ?!? LOL