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Title: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on August 08, 2012, 12:04 am
just curious.  i always hear people say its "more psychedelic" but i have never gotten a more articulate explanation than that. 

if any experts could elaborate on the distinctions between the two, i'd greatly appreciate it.

i would also appreciate any comments regarding MDA/MDMA combos.

thanks!
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on August 08, 2012, 12:12 am
MDA is like the ying to MDMA's yan. They are very similar but at the same time very different.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on August 08, 2012, 12:17 am
MDA is like the ying to MDMA's yan. They are very similar but at the same time very different.

ha ha!!  thanks master po, that really gives me a good idea of what to expect  :P
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: TheAbsurd on August 08, 2012, 12:19 am
I personally didn't get any visuals like people say. But when I smoked weed with MDA my thoughts became quite psychedelic and really euphoric.

Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on August 08, 2012, 12:20 am
MDA is like the ying to MDMA's yan. They are very similar but at the same time very different.

ha ha!!  thanks master po, that really gives me a good idea of what to expect  :P

LOL it's like more speedy but with less roll and more psychedelic at higher doses. There ya go.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on August 08, 2012, 12:25 am
i guess i should just swallow some and find out for myself, eh?

i've had some of montel williams' mda for a while now but only once took some and it was in combination with mdma while i was tripping on mushrooms.  soooo, i didn't really get a good feel for its unique character, haha
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: TheAbsurd on August 08, 2012, 12:28 am
I've only tried 3Jane's MDA, and less was more. 100mg was much more enjoyable than 150mg. It does have a unique character. It's really chill and you don't necessarily want to get up and dance. I just laid in bed for a while and stretched and rolled around. Felt pretty awesome. Smoke some weed about halfway in.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: moonflower on August 08, 2012, 01:22 am
mda is less predictable in its effects, but it tends to be more psychedelic and stimulating. i.e. you will trip instead of roll.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: TheAbsurd on August 08, 2012, 01:26 am
mda is less predictable in its effects, but it tends to be more psychedelic and stimulating. i.e. you will trip instead of roll.
I thought it was more of a roll rather than a trip, but I guess that goes on par with what you're saying on how it's less predictable in its effects.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on August 08, 2012, 01:28 am
Tell you what is an entertaining mix. MDA + Ket. It makes for a damn fine evening. Throw a bit of Rip into the mix and you got yourself a hum-dinger.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 08, 2012, 01:33 am
More trippy instead of rolly in my opinion. Kind of like MDMA lite or something. I prefer MDMA, but they're both pretty fun. Not as similar as I thought they'd be, but they do have a similar feel that is noticeable.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: 34trimethoxy on August 08, 2012, 01:59 am
What kind of visuals does MDA produce?
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on August 08, 2012, 02:01 am
What kind of visuals does MDA produce?

It's not like you are tripping balls. It's more like shadow-games and colour fluctuations.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on August 08, 2012, 02:04 am
Tell you what is an entertaining mix. MDA + Ket. It makes for a damn fine evening. Throw a bit of Rip into the mix and you got yourself a hum-dinger.

hmmm, i will inevitably try this.  honestly, every time i've rolled lately has just been a platform for me to do a bunch of K.

sorry tho, wtf is "Rip?"
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Twelve_Pickles on August 08, 2012, 02:05 am
i had a low dose of MDA and tings were damn fine until i smashed A load of  Regretamine and K-holed into one of the most intense trips ever.

everything was black except for a rotating shape that moved closer gradually as i explored it.
only way to describe it was like if you got some alluminum foil, squashed it into a ball and span it round slowly.
every line,facet and face was alive with octarine iridescence.
beauty.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on August 08, 2012, 02:34 am
Tell you what is an entertaining mix. MDA + Ket. It makes for a damn fine evening. Throw a bit of Rip into the mix and you got yourself a hum-dinger.

hmmm, i will inevitably try this.  honestly, every time i've rolled lately has just been a platform for me to do a bunch of K.

sorry tho, wtf is "Rip?"

Rip = Bing = Snow = Charles = Darwin = Posh = Cocaine
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: snipeemfl0 on August 08, 2012, 03:55 am
200mg as a first dose of mda was a bit... overdoing it...

Holy crap was i tripping balls. went 100% insane for the night. Do remember some stuff though before I lost complete touch with reality
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on August 08, 2012, 06:56 am
Yeah people forget that the dose range for MDA is lower than MDMA. It's about 20% more potent by weight.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Snoopish on August 08, 2012, 03:02 pm
Damn it! Stop talking about how awesome the drugs I haven't tried (yet) are!

Good to know though. I wasn't exactly sure what kind of relationship MDA and MDMA have so I may have to check it out.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Gibbroni on August 08, 2012, 03:08 pm
One time a couple of months back I snorted a roughly 80mg line of mda, while rolling on MDMA for a couple of hours beforehand.  Despite the obvious tolerance to the MDMA I was still rolling on, this had a dramatic effect!  I could see my friends' faces flasing in high speed, changing their expressions!  I saw hats, veils, aqua-coloured geometric stationary pattens on friends' faces and also on the horizon and in the atmosphere. Depth perception all out of whack!  It was so much fun!

Then, a couple of months later, I was feeling rather impulsive (doesn't happen often with this sort of thing), and since I had eaten a big meal, I decided to snort some of the same MDA alone, not in combination with MDMA this time, to properly gauge it's effects.

Now I don't know if it's tolerence from dosing 40mg of 2cb 3 days beforehand (I bet this is it), or whether it was potentiated to the impressive heights I experienced that night from the MDMA I was already on, but the effects were minimal, and quite slow to come on.  The whole roll felt really weak, although I eventually got to a nice happy place, it wasn't anywhere near as intense as I would have liked.  My dosage on this occasion was about 230mg snorted, but in 50mg increments.  Perhaps, even when snorting MDA, and particularly with a tolerence, one needs to pack all the punch into one initial line?

Snorting MDMA/MDA is something new for me, that I've only tried recently for the first times. Although my first MDA roll was amazing, tolerance has probably made my second roll much more underwhelming.

Overall, AWESOME DRUG! Less lovely, more visual!

I can't wait to try high oral doses sometime, when i get my tolerence down, and also to combine with MDMA.

I'm thinking 120 of Ivory's clear, with 75 mg of 3Jane's clear MDA

Could possibly be the best thing i'll ever do!!!
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Snoopish on August 08, 2012, 03:22 pm
One time a couple of months back I snorted a roughly 80mg line of mda, while rolling on MDMA for a couple of hours beforehand.  Despite the obvious tolerance to the MDMA I was still rolling on, this had a dramatic effect!  I could see my friends' faces flasing in high speed, changing their expressions!  I saw hats, veils, aqua-coloured geometric stationary pattens on friends' faces and also on the horizon and in the atmosphere. Depth perception all out of whack!  It was so much fun!

Then, a couple of months later, I was feeling rather impulsive (doesn't happen often with this sort of thing), and since I had eaten a big meal, I decided to snort some of the same MDA alone, not in combination with MDMA this time, to properly gauge it's effects.

Now I don't know if it's tolerence from dosing 40mg of 2cb 3 days beforehand (I bet this is it), or whether it was potentiated to the impressive heights I experienced that night from the MDMA I was already on, but the effects were minimal, and quite slow to come on.  The whole roll felt really weak, although I eventually got to a nice happy place, it wasn't anywhere near as intense as I would have liked.  My dosage on this occasion was about 230mg snorted, but in 50mg increments.  Perhaps, even when snorting MDA, and particularly with a tolerence, one needs to pack all the punch into one initial line?

Snorting MDMA/MDA is something new for me, that I've only tried recently for the first times. Although my first MDA roll was amazing, tolerance has probably made my second roll much more underwhelming.

Overall, AWESOME DRUG! Less lovely, more visual!

I can't wait to try high oral doses sometime, when i get my tolerence down, and also to combine with MDMA.

I'm thinking 120 of Ivory's clear, with 75 mg of 3Jane's clear MDA

Could possibly be the best thing i'll ever do!!!

I love it when people talk about their favorite recipes and vendors. I know who to check out when I'm ready to take the plunge!
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: 34trimethoxy on August 09, 2012, 12:44 am
What kind of visuals does MDA produce?

It's not like you are tripping balls. It's more like shadow-games and colour fluctuations.

Ahh gotcha. Looks like I'll be sticking to the good ole mandy (there's some beautiful stuff on here btw  :) ) reagent tested right to black.

Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on August 09, 2012, 12:46 am
What kind of visuals does MDA produce?

It's not like you are tripping balls. It's more like shadow-games and colour fluctuations.

Ahh gotcha. Looks like I'll be sticking to the good ole mandy (there's some beautiful stuff on here btw  :) ) reagent tested right to black.

Yeah for everything I buy apart from Meph and Coke I have had the best I've ever had on here too. :)
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on August 09, 2012, 12:51 am
thanks for all the input guys :)

so another thing, i have heard some people say that the best pills were ones that were MDA/MDMA combos.  do you guys think create a unique experience together, or do they just sorta blend together when you take them simultaneously?
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on August 09, 2012, 12:57 am
thanks for all the input guys :)

so another thing, i have heard some people say that the best pills were ones that were MDA/MDMA combos.  do you guys think create a unique experience together, or do they just sorta blend together when you take them simultaneously?

Yes it does because it's like having both ends of the same spectrum in one. :)
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: gambino on August 09, 2012, 01:59 am
i guess i should just swallow some and find out for myself, eh?

Yep, exactly.  That's the only way to find out.

Pro tip: Take *one* single dose and that's all.  Don't redose on MDA or you will pay the price the next day.  The MDA peak is considerably longer anyway.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on August 09, 2012, 02:06 am
Haha I see Regretamine is becoming another Limism to do the rounds. :P
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: darthvaderstar on August 11, 2012, 01:33 am
I mixed my MDA with my MDMA so i took MDMA instead of MDA by accident, first time trying it and took around 500mg, i was fucked up about 20 hours later. I know that if i only took a little bit i would have enjoyed it way more, it lasted way too long it became uncomfortable because it was way too much. Stupid me
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: spinbox1 on August 11, 2012, 04:40 am
What is a good mix of MDMA and MDA?  Might be an interesting experiment.  I'm thinking 120mg MDMA + 60mg MDA would be a pretty good combo.  Anyone have experience with this?
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on August 11, 2012, 12:00 pm
MDA 120mg MDMA 180mg :)
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: deliric on August 11, 2012, 12:48 pm
MDA 120mg MDMA 180mg :)

Yo don't be saying stupid shit. Just cause you're e-tarded and have to take almost double the amount to have a good roll, doesn't mean most people here are.
If you're a beginner, or a sensible user and not somebody that wants to fry their brain, don't go over 70mg MDMA and 70mg MDA.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on August 12, 2012, 06:35 pm
ohhhh, okay i get it now.  its more psychedelic ;)

took 120mg last night and basically tripped balls.  tossed some ketamine into the mix after i had a feel for the character of MDA and went fuckin mental.  woweee!  good times  8)
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Snoopish on August 14, 2012, 06:32 am
Glad to see you had a good experience :) Are there any good vendors who deal in MDA that I can look out for? I just checked and right now there aren't really any MDA deals on SR
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on August 14, 2012, 01:27 pm
i got mine from Montel Williams
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Montell Williams on August 16, 2012, 06:34 am
Yo don't be saying stupid shit. Just cause you're e-tarded and have to take almost double the amount to have a good roll, doesn't mean most people here are.
If you're a beginner, or a sensible user and not somebody that wants to fry their brain, don't go over 70mg MDMA and 70mg MDA.
+1
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: nottheunderscore on August 23, 2012, 07:27 pm
I definitely gotta chime in on this one.  I recently tried MDA on its own for the first time, and it is much much more trippy than MDMA.  MDA is pretty serious, or at least the dosage I took was.  180lbs. male who is experienced with Molly and other drugs took 150mg then re-dosed like an idiot a few hours later with another 150mg. 

DO NOT RE-DOSE!  MDA really really is unlike MDMA in the sense that more is not always better.  I read someone else's warnings about re-dosing on MDA and I thought..."not me, I can take it...I'm special etc."  The next day, I can't describe to you the pain I felt.  It was the worst next day I've ever had.  If you plan on Re-dosing on MDA, also plan on not having a gun in the house for the next week because you will likely be suicidal.  I'm really not joking...the hangover lasts for days and it is really bad.  So bad I won't take MDA again.  It just isn't worth it, for what you get v.s. the health of your body and brain.

150mg was a good dose and I'm glad I took that, I was rolling quite hard off of it...the onset was really quick too, about 35 min. and I was already feeling it big time.  MDA really doesn't give you the body high that MDMA gives and it also doesn't give you the sense that everything is amazing with the world.  At the dosage I was at: My teeth were chattering, I had horrible headache 6 hours in that persisted for days, my mouth and tongue were very chewed up, and I was having some of the realest 2 sec. hallucinations I've ever had and I've experimented with LSD, DMT, 2ci, 2ce, 2ct2 etc....

In summary: MDA is trippy as fuck, worth trying on its own, but don't do what I did and re-dose like its Molly.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on August 23, 2012, 08:29 pm
thanks for the cautionary tale.

definitely won't ever do any crazy dosing with the MDA.

next weekend i'm going to a rave and think i'm gonna do 65mg/65mg molly/sassy mix.  i was thinking of also bringing another capsule with 100mg of just MDMA for redosing.  that should be fine, no?
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: nottheunderscore on August 24, 2012, 10:50 am
I'm sure that should be fine...and a good time
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: crazydancer on August 26, 2012, 03:59 pm
thanks for the cautionary tale.

definitely won't ever do any crazy dosing with the MDA.

next weekend i'm going to a rave and think i'm gonna do 65mg/65mg molly/sassy mix.  i was thinking of also bringing another capsule with 100mg of just MDMA for redosing.  that should be fine, no?

This is approximatively what I have done 2 weeks ago (70 mg MDMA + 65 mg MDA), and that was not enough (for me, maybe not for you): not enough trippy from the MDA, and not enough rolling from the MDMA, but it was nice enough to have a nice discussion and a beautiful walk with a good friend in the nature.

Next time, think I will try circa 75 mg MDMA + 70 mg MDA combo, or why not 80 mgs of MDA alone.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: filthymuk on August 30, 2012, 01:27 pm
Done MDA by itself a couple times now.. i do enjoy it however i like MDMA better  ;D

Like most have said i found it more chargy and trippy and no way could i sit down i had to move lol unlike MDMA where if i sit down i practically blow my load from it feeling so good haha

Also i found on MDA that i kept thinking that everyone in the club was looking at me lol maybe they were but in reality i think it was the MDA tricking me lol also why in the toilet cubicle i had to keep looking over my shoulder coz kept seeing those damn shadow people haha and then proceeded to throw up lol but i always throw up, whether mdma or mda, ever since i got really drunk one night and decided to drop some pills(mdma)...that night i threw up and since then even when i drop and havnt had a drink i still chuck  :-\ oh wells


I've yet to do an MDMA/MDA combo but really want to...have heard awesome things
Was thinking 100 or 120mg of MDMA about 70mg MDA
Does that sound alright??

also whose good to get MDA of here?

cheers guys
PLUR
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: RR on August 30, 2012, 11:34 pm
oh yeah there much to be gained from MDA.... in some ways they are similar but they also have there own unique effects,  personally i like to mix them,  MDA on its own it okay but nothing like the two together.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Silent on September 02, 2012, 03:56 am
MDA is some what more trippy i have a tolerence yet with MDA i dont go over 100mg or redose the hang over and depression is just killer after wards. MDMA is what i prefer more,  im more me and relaxed and the after glow cant't  be beat, with way less post depression symptoms .
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: RR on September 02, 2012, 05:07 pm
MDA 120mg MDMA 180mg :)

Yo don't be saying stupid shit. Just cause you're e-tarded and have to take almost double the amount to have a good roll, doesn't mean most people here are.
If you're a beginner, or a sensible user and not somebody that wants to fry their brain, don't go over 70mg MDMA and 70mg MDA.

i don't know if 70mg of mdma would do anything special to me, most common pills have twice that amount and i have to double drop them, i know i take higher does than some might but i wouldn't say 70mg's is enough to get a good result, id say 100-120mg of mdma and 50-70mg of mda as a starting dose for those who it effects more, i have read somewhere that your body converts about 5% of the mdma you take in to mda and mda is responsible for the things you see in the corner of your eye when on mdma, so taking mda pure increases that effect and brings a trippy edge to the table i like to do 220mg of ivorys mdma and 100mg of dopeboys mda (i still have a big bag from when he was about) but i wouldn't recommend coping me if you are not fully experienced with mdma cos its a strong dose and hits hard.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Gibbroni on October 02, 2012, 01:01 pm
We all know about the famous MDMA/2C-B combo... But does anybody here care to report on the difference between that and an MDA/2C-B combo?  Not that i've had a chance to try either yet.  Or how about MDMA/MDA/2C-B?! Anyone tripled those up?  Ahh I still haven't tried ketamine, but from what everyone says about it it's great to take on a roll.  Lucky me, I happen to have a gram of Ivory's ketamine that i've been saving for months.  Anyone quadrupled?
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: oban_18 on October 02, 2012, 01:14 pm
I've gotten some crazy visuals on MDA in the past. Once, we were out at a desert party and I swore we were partying in the middle of a valley with condos rising up on either side.  When the sun came up I was confused as to where all the buildings went.  Same party, someone gave me a camera to take a photo of them and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what it was. It looked like some weird Atlantean or alien technology until they told me it was a camera and I could see it for what it was.  Staring up at the moon was fun, too - it looked like an eye that was absorbing the stars around it into it. Fun stuff.

Was walking down a sidewalk once with a friend who had dropped 2 MDA pills, he stopped and started moving his hands in the air like he he was conducting something. I asked him what he was doing and he was like, "shhh... I'm reorganizing my medicine cabinet."

Haven't had MDA in a looong while, will probably get my hands on some once things get sorted out.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: ianfleming on October 02, 2012, 04:33 pm
I'd like to know how MDA compares to 2c-i.
I have a lot of experience with 2c-i and I've had MDMA.
Everyone says that MDA is a trippier and less rolly MDMA.
Well 2c-i is mildly entacnogenic like MDMA and fairly trippy too.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: Unity on October 02, 2012, 10:27 pm
I wonder what it would be like to lightly dose with MDA and 25c-nBOME
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: BobSacamano1 on October 02, 2012, 10:53 pm
Don't really have a better explanation, its similar but more trippy. Visuals are much stronger, and it isn't quite a lovey dovey but similar. My first roll was a a dope MDA pill.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: M364M1ND on October 03, 2012, 01:34 am
i had a low dose of MDA and tings were damn fine until i smashed A load of  Regretamine and K-holed into one of the most intense trips ever.

everything was black except for a rotating shape that moved closer gradually as i explored it.
only way to describe it was like if you got some alluminum foil, squashed it into a ball and span it round slowly.
every line,facet and face was alive with octarine iridescence.
beauty.

lololol...Regretamine. I just spit my beer alll over my laptop and literally lol'd when i read that.

im looking to try mda intentionally. i think ive had it pawned of to me as "mdma" once or twice back in my early days. mdma and k could be the best drug combo known to man! i cant even imagine an mda/kitty kitty combo...yyyyyahtzi!
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: ianfleming on October 03, 2012, 02:34 am
Quote
im looking to try mda intentionally. i think ive had it pawned of to me as "mdma" once or twice back in my early days. mdma and k could be the best drug combo known to man! i cant even imagine an mda/kitty kitty combo...yyyyyahtzi!
Called a kittyflip, and sounds, to me at least, like a waste. Wouldn't anesthetic aspects of the Ketamine would undo some of the magic of the molly.
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: gestaltassault2 on October 03, 2012, 02:58 am
I've found MDA to be more physically stimulating and tactile than MDMA...
MDMA seems to affect me empathically and emotionally more than MDA...
with MDA i get visuals like tracers or strobing that i don't get with MDMA...
MDMA makes me feel light on my feet while MDA makes me feel like melting into a puddle of euphoria...
Title: Re: is MDA really that much different from MDMA?
Post by: slim on October 05, 2012, 11:48 pm
Back when I was young and my metabolism was fast, MDMA felt way too short. MDA lasted a bit longer, and had more of an amphetamine push, which I liked back then.

It was my favourite back in those days, good for partying. It could be unpredictable, and the come down required a lot of care. Not as bad as meth, but pretty bad. Insomnia could be a bitch. But it was fun. Energy, physical and emotional warmth, some mild visuals.

Despite getting pretty fucked up a couple of times I never found it that trippy. Pretty stoning, remember describing the feeling after a heavy dose as like being hit round the head with a baseball bat. But not what I'd call trippy.

The most important difference between MDMA and MDA for me was that MDMA would cause lingering panic attacks - had one when it came on, that's cool, it's a drug it does stuff. But had another one a week later completely straight. Seemed to cause and then exacerbate these things. MDA didn't though.

For ianfleming - I can't compare it to 2c-i, but I've had a bit of 2c-b (maybe similar to 2c-i?), and I wouldn't say 2c-b is like MDA at all. I prefer 2c-b, overall, for the smooth body load/come down/headspace, but they're different things.

It's been well over a decade, but I'm gonna try MDA again - just to see if it'll get me off the couch and get me to give my ladyfriend a night on the town.