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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: RR on August 04, 2012, 01:47 pm
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i have been trying over the past few weeks to experience some thing truly spectacular. i started with 2x tabs of acid (Alice in wonderland) but they only had minimal effect, the most i saw was the letters moving on my pc screen and it kept me away all night.
next i moved on to 25i-nbome and i found this a little more powerful and energetic, i watched avatar on this and it was a good film to watch while on 25i but again i still feel i want more visually,
so i moved on to 25c-nbome and again its good in its own ways but again not powerful enough visually.
i have tried mixing the two and found it created less of an effect than the compounds alone.
so where is my next move??? i want something extreamly powerful that will really fuck my vision up??
the best so far in my eyes is AMT.
im looking at the 2c family but there are so many different ones i dont know what one to get, and also been thinking strooms what are they like???
someone help me here im running out of ideas and really want a big nasty mindfuck of a trip :(
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1200 mics of acid
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7 grams of shrooms (cubensis)
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50 mg of DMT
throw all the rest of those psychs in the garbage.
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Mid-dosage LSD (400ug), High-dosage DMT (enough to break through), Mid-dosage psilocybin (7-10g dried). Each is the pinnacle of a different sort of hallucinogenic trip.
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so do you think the acid i took was under dosed? or do you think it was just not enough they said they where 125ug but im going to order 10 200ug ones in the next week or so (waiting on coins transfer) but i have ordered 100mg of dmt and a glass pipe, whats that going to be like?
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so do you think the acid i took was under dosed? or do you think it was just not enough they said they where 125ug but im going to order 10 200ug ones in the next week or so (waiting on coins transfer) but i have ordered 100mg of dmt and a glass pipe, whats that going to be like?
I am willing to bet money that the tabs were duds; did you make sure to store them properly before taking them, IE isolated from heat, light and oxygen? If not they decay with remarkable speed. If you really took 250ug you would have had a vastly more intense experience.
I cannot accurately describe what that DMT will be like. Nobody is going to be able to do it justice; try it out and see. It'll blow your mind ;)
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so do you think the acid i took was under dosed? or do you think it was just not enough they said they where 125ug but im going to order 10 200ug ones in the next week or so (waiting on coins transfer) but i have ordered 100mg of dmt and a glass pipe, whats that going to be like?
yeah, either the acid was bunk or way under 125, or you are just a hard head for psychedelics. if the tabs you're getting are really 200 mics, try taking 3 and if ur not tripping as hard as you want in 3 hrs, double the dose. just be somewhere safe.
what is dmt gonna be like? fucking bonkers dude. smoke as much as you possibly can in one sitting and let the magic happen.
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1200 mics of acid
or
7 grams of shrooms (cubensis)
or
50 mg of DMT
throw all the rest of those psychs in the garbage.
I was actual going to post this exact same thing. Same amounts, lol. This guy gets it. You may be a hard head like me, because anything under 1000mcg to me is boring. By the way, it's not about the visuals, it's about how it makes you feel in your heart and mind.
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1200 mics of acid
or
7 grams of shrooms (cubensis)
or
50 mg of DMT
throw all the rest of those psychs in the garbage.
I was actual going to post this exact same thing. Same amounts, lol. This guy gets it. You may be a hard head like me, because anything under 1000mcg to me is boring. By the way, it's not about the visuals, it's about how it makes you feel in your heart and mind.
so do you think the acid i took was under dosed? or do you think it was just not enough they said they where 125ug but im going to order 10 200ug ones in the next week or so (waiting on coins transfer) but i have ordered 100mg of dmt and a glass pipe, whats that going to be like?
I am willing to bet money that the tabs were duds; did you make sure to store them properly before taking them, IE isolated from heat, light and oxygen? If not they decay with remarkable speed. If you really took 250ug you would have had a vastly more intense experience.
I cannot accurately describe what that DMT will be like. Nobody is going to be able to do it justice; try it out and see. It'll blow your mind ;)
yeah it was posted and came 3days later, in a clear plastic baggie and i put it away in my drug tin out of light and away from heat. but its hard to know if it was lsd or how strong being the first time, i remember the tabs tasted almost soapy like, i took one then 2hrs in i was thinking this is rubbish so i took the other one and an hour or so later while typing on here i saw the letters on the screen wobbling and like i said it keep me awake all night.
so do you think the acid i took was under dosed? or do you think it was just not enough they said they where 125ug but im going to order 10 200ug ones in the next week or so (waiting on coins transfer) but i have ordered 100mg of dmt and a glass pipe, whats that going to be like?
yeah, either the acid was bunk or way under 125, or you are just a hard head for psychedelics. if the tabs you're getting are really 200 mics, try taking 3 and if ur not tripping as hard as you want in 3 hrs, double the dose. just be somewhere safe.
what is dmt gonna be like? fucking bonkers dude. smoke as much as you possibly can in one sitting and let the magic happen.
man i cant wait to get the dmt, do you just smoke it all at once? 100mg?? and its funny you say that i might be a hard head to psychedelics as amt had a slight effect and so called lsd very little, and nbome well i think its more of a stimulant than psychedelic. i defo want to try strooms and a stronger dose of acid, any suggestions who to score acid off? there are quite a few selling it at the minute
1200 mics of acid
or
7 grams of shrooms (cubensis)
or
50 mg of DMT
throw all the rest of those psychs in the garbage.
I was actual going to post this exact same thing. Same amounts, lol. This guy gets it. You may be a hard head like me, because anything under 1000mcg to me is boring. By the way, it's not about the visuals, it's about how it makes you feel in your heart and mind.
this is what i want to experience and feel it for myself, the visuals are what everyone goes on about, this is why i want to see for myself
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man i cant wait to get the dmt, do you just smoke it all at once? 100mg?? and its funny you say that i might be a hard head to psychedelics as amt had a slight effect and so called lsd very little, and nbome well i think its more of a stimulant than psychedelic. i defo want to try strooms and a stronger dose of acid, any suggestions who to score acid off? there are quite a few selling it at the minute
100 mg would be overkill. if you can manage to smoke 50mg that will be plenty. sorry i can't recommend any acid vendors; i have great respect and appreciation for LSD but I don't use it any more. can't comment on dmt vendors either, as I extract my own (super easy)...I will say that Rocker had some fantastic mushrooms the last time i bought off him.
its sounding like you got ripped off on that acid. its quite possible that you got DOx on blotter, or just damaged goods. when you get a proper acid trip, the visuals will almost be merely an afterthought to, as Holly said, "how it makes you feel in your heart and mind." hope you get where you're trying to go! seek and ye shall find :)
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DMT.
Or, you can start working your way up with LSD, taking larger doses each time with a break between each trip to avoid wasting LSD because of a high tolerance, and work up to 2000 ug or higher. Shit gets crazy past the 1000 range, even moreso past 1500.
Or both! And don't forget shrooms!
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lol just ordered dmt and next will be strooms but i do want to try a high dose of lsd but that ones hard as there are so many vendors and its expensive to get ripped off on, thinking of getting 5x 300ug
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
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lol just ordered dmt and next will be strooms but i do want to try a high dose of lsd but that ones hard as there are so many vendors and its expensive to get ripped off on, thinking of getting 5x 300ug
Haven't checked LSD vendors in a while, didn't know people were offering 300ug. Seems a bit high, make sure you buy from a trusted vendor.
I might have to buy some of those if they really are 300 each...
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
You should give it a chance, I thought the whole "being ripped away from reality in a matter of seconds" thing seemed kind of... extreme to me, but it was actually extremely comforting. Very pleasant trip.
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
You should give it a chance, I thought the whole "being ripped away from reality in a matter of seconds" thing seemed kind of... extreme to me, but it was actually extremely comforting. Very pleasant trip.
Lol yeah so I have been told mate but it's really not my thing. I'm not really into psychs as whole, don't fit my personality.
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
i used to think that but after my small experiments i have come to like the psychedelic thing, its just that feeling you get when things start to move and mess with you, its exciting and turns me in to a giggling kid again, everythings funny and you feel like you can hear the person saying the words you read, i just want more out of it, so dmt is the next step, i was always worried about trying it but now i feel different, and man you have to watch avatar while on 25i-nbome amazing
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In terms of the intensity of the hallucinations:
DMT > Mushrooms > LSD > Mescaline > Marijuana
(yes, marijuana is a psychedelic and it can produce hallucinations in sufficiently high dosages)
In my experience, a very high dosage of mushrooms produces a more profound experience than an equivalent dosage of LSD. With LSD you will see geometric patterns, visual distortions, etc. With mushrooms (at very high dosages), you have dreamlike visions of other worlds. You can see the entities, hear voices that aren't there, etc. I've never had that with LSD.
As for research chemicals, I stay away from them because their long-term effects are unknown. Some of the ones that Shulgin developed may cause heart valve disease.
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
You should give it a chance, I thought the whole "being ripped away from reality in a matter of seconds" thing seemed kind of... extreme to me, but it was actually extremely comforting. Very pleasant trip.
Lol yeah so I have been told mate but it's really not my thing. I'm not really into psychs as whole, don't fit my personality.
Not into psychedelics? I'm guessing you're into something even better, like opiates? Only thing I genuinely enjoy more than psychs. Except DMT.
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
i used to think that but after my small experiments i have come to like the psychedelic thing, its just that feeling you get when things start to move and mess with you, its exciting and turns me in to a giggling kid again, everythings funny and you feel like you can hear the person saying the words you read, i just want more out of it, so dmt is the next step, i was always worried about trying it but now i feel different, and man you have to watch avatar while on 25i-nbome amazing
Yeah see that just doesn't appeal to me. I like to feel the rush rather than the weird.
And no I don't use Opiates at all. I'm actually very boring with my drug use and stick to MDMA, MDA, Bing, Meph and Ket. Suits me down to the ground. :)
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
i used to think that but after my small experiments i have come to like the psychedelic thing, its just that feeling you get when things start to move and mess with you, its exciting and turns me in to a giggling kid again, everythings funny and you feel like you can hear the person saying the words you read, i just want more out of it, so dmt is the next step, i was always worried about trying it but now i feel different, and man you have to watch avatar while on 25i-nbome amazing
Yeah see that just doesn't appeal to me. I like to feel the rush rather than the weird.
And no I don't use Opiates at all. I'm actually very boring with my drug use and stick to MDMA, MDA, Bing, Meph and Ket. Suits me down to the ground. :)
Ever taken MDMA and Ketamine at the same time? Pretty interesting trip in my opinion.
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
i used to think that but after my small experiments i have come to like the psychedelic thing, its just that feeling you get when things start to move and mess with you, its exciting and turns me in to a giggling kid again, everythings funny and you feel like you can hear the person saying the words you read, i just want more out of it, so dmt is the next step, i was always worried about trying it but now i feel different, and man you have to watch avatar while on 25i-nbome amazing
Yeah see that just doesn't appeal to me. I like to feel the rush rather than the weird.
And no I don't use Opiates at all. I'm actually very boring with my drug use and stick to MDMA, MDA, Bing, Meph and Ket. Suits me down to the ground. :)
Ever taken MDMA and Ketamine at the same time? Pretty interesting trip in my opinion.
Lol yeah I mix them all up at the same time usually. Meph and Bing is an excellent combination too.
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
You should give it a chance, I thought the whole "being ripped away from reality in a matter of seconds" thing seemed kind of... extreme to me, but it was actually extremely comforting. Very pleasant trip.
Lol yeah so I have been told mate but it's really not my thing. I'm not really into psychs as whole, don't fit my personality.
yeah, you keep saying that, but i think you're secretly very curious ;)
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I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
You should give it a chance, I thought the whole "being ripped away from reality in a matter of seconds" thing seemed kind of... extreme to me, but it was actually extremely comforting. Very pleasant trip.
Lol yeah so I have been told mate but it's really not my thing. I'm not really into psychs as whole, don't fit my personality.
yeah, you keep saying that, but i think you're secretly very curious ;)
Oh I am curious, naturally I'm curious. I just wont go there.
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okay now i have a glass pipe, 500mg of DMT and 3gr dried A++ Psilocybin Cubensis Mushrooms (equivalent to 30gr un dried)
how much of the 3gr dried A++ Psilocybin Cubensis Mushrooms should i try frist? not looking forward to eatting them they look nasty and wrong, i like normal mushrooms but dont think these taste the same, they look like something they eat in im a celebrity (uk program)
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okay now i have a glass pipe, 500mg of DMT and 3gr dried A++ Psilocybin Cubensis Mushrooms (equivalent to 30gr un dried)
how much of the 3gr dried A++ Psilocybin Cubensis Mushrooms should i try frist? not looking forward to eatting them they look nasty and wrong, i like normal mushrooms but dont think these taste the same, they look like something they eat in im a celebrity (uk program)
eat all 3 g for an intense experience. take half if you want a milder trip.
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im going to eat the hole lot in one go :))
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im going to eat the hole lot in one go :))
good.
in my opinion, the more shrooms you eat, the easier the trip gets. i find low doses to be awkward and sometimes difficult because you're straddled between worlds. once you eat 5g or more its a beautiful & euphoric breeze
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good.
in my opinion, the more shrooms you eat, the easier the trip gets. i find low doses to be awkward and sometimes difficult because you're straddled between worlds. once you eat 5g or more its a beautiful & euphoric breeze
what do they taste like? are they nasty as they look?
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good.
in my opinion, the more shrooms you eat, the easier the trip gets. i find low doses to be awkward and sometimes difficult because you're straddled between worlds. once you eat 5g or more its a beautiful & euphoric breeze
what do they taste like? are they nasty as they look?
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in my opinion, the more shrooms you eat, the easier the trip gets. i find low doses to be awkward and sometimes difficult because you're straddled between worlds. once you eat 5g or more its a beautiful & euphoric breeze
on the basis of this comment i have asked the vendor to up my order to 5grs and i will pay the difference LOL
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in my opinion, the more shrooms you eat, the easier the trip gets. i find low doses to be awkward and sometimes difficult because you're straddled between worlds. once you eat 5g or more its a beautiful & euphoric breeze
on the basis of this comment i have asked the vendor to up my order to 5grs and i will pay the difference LOL
AWESOME! I'm so excited for you!
as for the taste, well...they aren't something that you would eat for pleasure, but all things considered they're not that bad. every person i know who grew up catholic says "they taste like communion wafers." they're just kinda bland and earthy with a weird texture. i've had other herbal drugs that were SO much worse....cactus tea, calea dream herb, ayahuasca all make mushrooms seem quite palatable by comparison. i just eat em straight up, but you can put them on a peanut butter sandwich or something. or maybe eat them with a salad? i've heard a lot of people putting them on pizza, but i personally wouldn't want to eat all that lactose before a trip. just don't cook them, as heat will destroy the psilocybin.
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AWESOME! I'm so excited for you!
as for the taste, well...they aren't something that you would eat for pleasure, but all things considered they're not that bad. every person i know who grew up catholic says "they taste like communion wafers." they're just kinda bland and earthy with a weird texture. i've had other herbal drugs that were SO much worse....cactus tea, calea dream herb, ayahuasca all make mushrooms seem quite palatable by comparison. i just eat em straight up, but you can put them on a peanut butter sandwich or something. or maybe eat them with a salad? i've heard a lot of people putting them on pizza, but i personally wouldn't want to eat all that lactose before a trip. just don't cook them, as heat will destroy the psilocybin.
LOL im excited as well, all went to plan i have now changed my order to 5gr and i intend to eat it all at the same time
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I usually grind my shrooms up pretty fine and put them in some liquid nacho cheese and basically just drink that. Great way to cover the taste, and you don't really eat a lot of it so that's also a plus because eating a lot before a shroom trip could diminish the potency of the shrooms. But I'd probably try to eat them straight your first time, just seems like the best way to go in my opinion.
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lol @ shroomy nacho cheese. i wish they offered that at taco bell
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in my opinion, the more shrooms you eat, the easier the trip gets. i find low doses to be awkward and sometimes difficult because you're straddled between worlds. once you eat 5g or more its a beautiful & euphoric breeze
on the basis of this comment i have asked the vendor to up my order to 5grs and i will pay the difference LOL
what may be to him may be opposite to you. In my case shrooms is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from 'clarity' to me. I'm pretty much a mental patient when I'm on it.
I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
you like to gamble???? i do.
bet you 10 bucks your DMT experience will be the most euphoric experience you'll have to date.
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in my opinion, the more shrooms you eat, the easier the trip gets. i find low doses to be awkward and sometimes difficult because you're straddled between worlds. once you eat 5g or more its a beautiful & euphoric breeze
on the basis of this comment i have asked the vendor to up my order to 5grs and i will pay the difference LOL
what may be to him may be opposite to you. In my case shrooms is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from 'clarity' to me. I'm pretty much a mental patient when I'm on it.
I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
you like to gamble???? i do.
bet you 10 bucks your DMT experience will be the most euphoric experience you'll have to date.
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I'd like to get in on that bet, actually. DMT was several times better than any other drug I've ever had. Even, and I didn't think I'd ever say this, Ketamine. From one Ketlover to another, you should give DMT a shot Lim!
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what may be to him may be opposite to you. In my case shrooms is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from 'clarity' to me. I'm pretty much a mental patient when I'm on it.
@holly Lol i hope im not a mental patient on them, and yeah good point as well but im the kinda person who just jumps in with a big dose, 5grs is a good start point and if i like it i will try double that next time :)
in my opinion, the more shrooms you eat, the easier the trip gets. i find low doses to be awkward and sometimes difficult because you're straddled between worlds. once you eat 5g or more its a beautiful & euphoric breeze
on the basis of this comment i have asked the vendor to up my order to 5grs and i will pay the difference LOL
what may be to him may be opposite to you. In my case shrooms is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from 'clarity' to me. I'm pretty much a mental patient when I'm on it.
I think it depends what you are looking for. I doubt I'll ever try DMT because the idea of it I find quite frightening really.
you like to gamble???? i do.
bet you 10 bucks your DMT experience will be the most euphoric experience you'll have to date.
8)
i have done lots and lots of research on dmt now and am very excited about it, for me dmt is not about getting high, its about what can be opened up in my mind, :)
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a few of my top visual trips include:
i grind or cut the shrooms... drink em down with water without chewing.
1 of my top trips, about 5 grams of golden teacher mushrooms. i talked to gaia and felt connected to mother earth like mycellium. i remember waking up to a broken sky and interpreting it as 2012.. def one of my weirdest trips. you get a SUPER STRONG body sensation, mental morph hallucinations and fractal color enhancement.
2cb can be pretty and visual in high doses... it's a very external visual, which is what you may be looking for.
high dose lsd... 1000 mics + in the forest, blotter and star microdots hahaha.. i don't think i should talk about those horrific experiences right now lol.. you'll find what your looking for and then some on high dose acid, be careful.
salvia d... i don't want anymore, but your abilities shutdown and you go into full blown mental hallucinations. feels like your insides are being ripped apart tho
i have yet to try dmt.. :(
mushrooms lsd and mdma combo - wow
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a few of my top visual trips include:
i grind or cut the shrooms... drink em down with water without chewing.
1 of my top trips, about 5 grams of golden teacher mushrooms. i talked to gaia and felt connected to mother earth like mycellium. i remember waking up to a broken sky and interpreting it as 2012.. def one of my weirdest trips. you get a SUPER STRONG body sensation, mental morph hallucinations and fractal color enhancement.
2cb can be pretty and visual in high doses... it's a very external visual, which is what you may be looking for.
high dose lsd... 1000 mics + in the forest, blotter and star microdots hahaha.. i don't think i should talk about those horrific experiences right now lol.. you'll find what your looking for and then some on high dose acid, be careful.
salvia d... i don't want anymore, but your abilities shutdown and you go into full blown mental hallucinations. feels like your insides are being ripped apart tho
i have yet to try dmt.. :(
mushrooms lsd and mdma combo - wow
thanks for advice mate, im not sure what to try first the strooms or dmt, i am hoping the dmt gets here before sat as i have a free house all week end and can get a mate who is sober to come over to keep watch over me, i have done tons of research in to DMT and have watched lots of vids of people trying there best to explain the effects but they all say the same thing "you will never understand until you try if for yourself" so i am going to try it for myself.
i started this journey looking for visual effects but after the research i have done and all the great advice that you guys on here i now feel like i was looking at it all wrong and i now want to feel that spiritual effect that all are talking about, the universe of pure energy and light seen from a completely new perspective, and the feeling of time just floating away, and being in a new universe sounds super cool, you only live once and i want to feel everything i can, and i am 110% ready mentally in my life now im getting on a bit, but i would never have tried this in my younger years as i know i was not ready then i am now :)
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thanks for advice mate, im not sure what to try first the strooms or dmt, i am hoping the dmt gets here before sat as i have a free house all week end and can get a mate who is sober to come over to keep watch over me, i have done tons of research in to DMT and have watched lots of vids of people trying there best to explain the effects but they all say the same thing "you will never understand until you try if for yourself" so i am going to try it for myself.
i started this journey looking for visual effects but after the research i have done and all the great advice that you guys on here i now feel like i was looking at it all wrong and i now want to feel that spiritual effect that all are talking about, the universe of pure energy and light seen from a completely new perspective, and the feeling of time just floating away, and being in a new universe sounds super cool, you only live once and i want to feel everything i can, and i am 110% ready mentally in my life now im getting on a bit, but i would never have tried this in my younger years as i know i was not ready then i am now :)
I'd try shrooms first, but you seem pretty prepared mentally. You're not doing it "to see some sweet-ass visuals, man" and you just seem ready. Best of luck with both drugs :) Let us know how it goes!
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well, for 90% of people, I would tell them to do the shrooms first.....BUT after reading what you just wrote about your intentions with these psychedelics, I think you might actually benefit more from doing the DMT first.
like everyone says, nothing will prepare you for DMT. however, you can use psychedelics like LSD or mushrooms as tools to decode the messages hidden in the DMT experience. if you take the shrooms after the DMT experience, the doors to your mind will be wide freaking open the the shrooms will have way more to talk about with you.
so for you, RR, dear traveler, I think you should smoke a big ass mega hit of DMT and then take a full dose of shrooms either that same day, the day after, or next weekend.
just my advice though. as always, go with your gut instict.
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like everyone says, nothing will prepare you for DMT. however, you can use psychedelics like LSD or mushrooms as tools to decode the messages hidden in the DMT experience. if you take the shrooms after the DMT experience, the doors to your mind will be wide freaking open the the shrooms will have way more to talk about with you.
Never thought about it that way, but I really like that. Very insightful. Have you taken both? If so, which one did you take first? You sound like you have experience with psychedelics.
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like everyone says, nothing will prepare you for DMT. however, you can use psychedelics like LSD or mushrooms as tools to decode the messages hidden in the DMT experience. if you take the shrooms after the DMT experience, the doors to your mind will be wide freaking open the the shrooms will have way more to talk about with you.
Never thought about it that way, but I really like that. Very insightful. Have you taken both? If so, which one did you take first? You sound like you have experience with psychedelics.
i've run pretty much the entire psychedelic circuit except iboga. i had taken mushrooms and acid a number of times before i finally got my hands on DMT, but after my initial DMT breakthrough, mushrooms and acid were never the same. i found they became way more intense and almost always focused on DMT as the "theme." I think short acting, high intensity psychedelics like DMT or Salvinorin-A are like compressed files...they contain a lot of information but you can download the whole thing to your brain really quick. so psychedelics like lsd, mushrooms, ayahuasca can be used as tools to decompress the compressed file you get from a DMT flash. thats the best way i can describe my feelings on this subject.
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like everyone says, nothing will prepare you for DMT. however, you can use psychedelics like LSD or mushrooms as tools to decode the messages hidden in the DMT experience. if you take the shrooms after the DMT experience, the doors to your mind will be wide freaking open the the shrooms will have way more to talk about with you.
Never thought about it that way, but I really like that. Very insightful. Have you taken both? If so, which one did you take first? You sound like you have experience with psychedelics.
i've run pretty much the entire psychedelic circuit except iboga. i had taken mushrooms and acid a number of times before i finally got my hands on DMT, but after my initial DMT breakthrough, mushrooms and acid were never the same. i found they became way more intense and almost always focused on DMT as the "theme." I think short acting, high intensity psychedelics like DMT or Salvinorin-A are like compressed files...they contain a lot of information but you can download the whole thing to your brain really quick. so psychedelics like lsd, mushrooms, ayahuasca can be used as tools to decompress the compressed file you get from a DMT flash. thats the best way i can describe my feelings on this subject.
I've never been able to find a way to describe my comparison of shorter, intense trips like DMT and Salvia to longer, smoother trips like shrooms and LSD, and I really like this explanation. You should post more around here, you've got a lot of good stuff to say.
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like everyone says, nothing will prepare you for DMT. however, you can use psychedelics like LSD or mushrooms as tools to decode the messages hidden in the DMT experience. if you take the shrooms after the DMT experience, the doors to your mind will be wide freaking open the the shrooms will have way more to talk about with you.
Never thought about it that way, but I really like that. Very insightful. Have you taken both? If so, which one did you take first? You sound like you have experience with psychedelics.
i've run pretty much the entire psychedelic circuit except iboga. i had taken mushrooms and acid a number of times before i finally got my hands on DMT, but after my initial DMT breakthrough, mushrooms and acid were never the same. i found they became way more intense and almost always focused on DMT as the "theme." I think short acting, high intensity psychedelics like DMT or Salvinorin-A are like compressed files...they contain a lot of information but you can download the whole thing to your brain really quick. so psychedelics like lsd, mushrooms, ayahuasca can be used as tools to decompress the compressed file you get from a DMT flash. thats the best way i can describe my feelings on this subject.
that makes a lot of sense, the way you described the difference between DMT, LSD and strooms is one of the best ways ive heard it explained yet, its all in front of me and im excited to see the magic for myself, i kinda already had my mind set on the DMT first but thought i would ask around, i plan on doing A huge DMT hit and i am used to holding my breath from bongs and pipes so hopefully wont waste much, followed by the 5g's of dried strooms early afternoon. i did nbome on Saturday just gone and plan on using the dmt and strooms this Saturday, will there be a tolerance issue between these drugs? thats a 7day gap, the nbome was good i preferred the I over the C, ive tried them both recently but i just wanted more out of them! i do feel how ever the memory's that i now have of what is possible to see have stuck with me and now holding weed in for as long as i can has a slight effect and i dont know if thats a memory of whats possible to see or the weeds effect i was blind to before, this properly makes no sense at all but its the best way i can describe the lasting effect nbome has left with me, i defo think nbome has helped me mentally prepare for the road ahead with DMT and strooms, im also looking in to the lsd vendors as i want to try a huge 1200ug hit of acid in a couple of weeks time, thanks for the advice :)
really like this explanation. You should post more around here, you've got a lot of good stuff to say.
he should write a book on the subject +1
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im also looking in to the lsd vendors as i want to try a huge 1200ug hit of acid in a couple of weeks time, thanks for the advice :)
Be careful with that. I try to do several thousand ug hits a few times a year (got one planned kinda soon actually) and it's not just a powerful LSD trip. It's almost like a completely different drug. I love it, although it's expensive.
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yeah but ive tried low doses of acid i did 2x 125ug tabs and had very little effect and it was from a trusted vendor and had stunning reports in the feedback, but the most i saw or felt was the letters on the pc screen wobble a little and maybe a little change in mood, also felt like when i was reading on here other peoples replies and posts i felt like they where talking to me and i felt there personality come across 100's of times more than normal. how does it feel like a different drug can you explain more?
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yeah but ive tried low doses of acid i did 2x 125ug tabs and had very little effect and it was from a trusted vendor and had stunning reports in the feedback, but the most i saw or felt was the letters on the pc screen wobble a little and maybe a little change in mood, also felt like when i was reading on here other peoples replies and posts i felt like they where talking to me and i felt there personality come across 100's of times more than normal. how does it feel like a different drug can you explain more?
It's just so intense, it's almost as if there are certain properties and effects from LSD that you can only "unlock" in high doses. It's like... Hm...
Alright, this is kind of a shitty example, but it's the best thing I can think of.
We have a car. A shitty, normal car. Just your regular old car that gets you to and from work and the grocery store. Having a car is great! This is your LSD, which is great.
And then, you bring your car to the shop (which is like taking a lot of doses all at once) and get all this extra work done on it and you get all these upgrades put on your car. New seats, XM radio, nice rims, new tires, a spoiler, a new supercharged engine, nicer brakes, a state of the art audio system, the works. It's the same car, but now it's awesome and it's got loads of extra features that you didn't have before. This is like a high dose LSD trip. It's still based off of the original car (the normal dose of LSD) but now you can access all this extra stuff that wasn't accessible before. It's the same thing, but it's so much better and so different that it's not really the same as what you started with. It's almost a completely different car (or drug).
Does that make any sense?
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yeah but ive tried low doses of acid i did 2x 125ug tabs and had very little effect and it was from a trusted vendor and had stunning reports in the feedback, but the most i saw or felt was the letters on the pc screen wobble a little and maybe a little change in mood, also felt like when i was reading on here other peoples replies and posts i felt like they where talking to me and i felt there personality come across 100's of times more than normal. how does it feel like a different drug can you explain more?
It's just so intense, it's almost as if there are certain properties and effects from LSD that you can only "unlock" in high doses. It's like... Hm...
Alright, this is kind of a shitty example, but it's the best thing I can think of.
We have a car. A shitty, normal car. Just your regular old car that gets you to and from work and the grocery store. Having a car is great! This is your LSD, which is great.
And then, you bring your car to the shop (which is like taking a lot of doses all at once) and get all this extra work done on it and you get all these upgrades put on your car. New seats, XM radio, nice rims, new tires, a spoiler, a new supercharged engine, nicer brakes, a state of the art audio system, the works. It's the same car, but now it's awesome and it's got loads of extra features that you didn't have before. This is like a high dose LSD trip. It's still based off of the original car (the normal dose of LSD) but now you can access all this extra stuff that wasn't accessible before. It's the same thing, but it's so much better and so different that it's not really the same as what you started with. It's almost a completely different car (or drug).
Does that make any sense?
lol yeah that makes perfect sense and just makes me want to try it, your a bit of a word wizard yourself, what a great way to explain it, i have some interesting and exciting times ahead, what about tolerance from the nbome last weekend? will that be a problem? i swear its still effecting me slightly i did do 3x 600ug caps so wouldnt surprise me if it was still effecting me, or like i said before in stoned so maybe thats unlocking something as colors are very bright since i smoked a spliff! or maybe its just a memory of the other night?
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yeah but ive tried low doses of acid i did 2x 125ug tabs and had very little effect and it was from a trusted vendor and had stunning reports in the feedback, but the most i saw or felt was the letters on the pc screen wobble a little and maybe a little change in mood, also felt like when i was reading on here other peoples replies and posts i felt like they where talking to me and i felt there personality come across 100's of times more than normal. how does it feel like a different drug can you explain more?
It's just so intense, it's almost as if there are certain properties and effects from LSD that you can only "unlock" in high doses. It's like... Hm...
Alright, this is kind of a shitty example, but it's the best thing I can think of.
We have a car. A shitty, normal car. Just your regular old car that gets you to and from work and the grocery store. Having a car is great! This is your LSD, which is great.
And then, you bring your car to the shop (which is like taking a lot of doses all at once) and get all this extra work done on it and you get all these upgrades put on your car. New seats, XM radio, nice rims, new tires, a spoiler, a new supercharged engine, nicer brakes, a state of the art audio system, the works. It's the same car, but now it's awesome and it's got loads of extra features that you didn't have before. This is like a high dose LSD trip. It's still based off of the original car (the normal dose of LSD) but now you can access all this extra stuff that wasn't accessible before. It's the same thing, but it's so much better and so different that it's not really the same as what you started with. It's almost a completely different car (or drug).
Does that make any sense?
lol yeah that makes perfect sense and just makes me want to try it, your a bit of a word wizard yourself, what a great way to explain it, i have some interesting and exciting times ahead, what about tolerance from the nbome last weekend? will that be a problem? i swear its still effecting me slightly i did do 3x 600ug caps so wouldnt surprise me if it was still effecting me, or like i said before in stoned so maybe thats unlocking something as colors are very bright since i smoked a spliff! or maybe its just a memory of the other night?
Really? Awesome, glad you understood it! And I'm not entirely sure, maybe there'd be some information on Erowid or somewhere in Drug Safety, but I'll try to find something. I think you should be okay though :)
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Really? Awesome, glad you understood it! And I'm not entirely sure, maybe there'd be some information on Erowid or somewhere in Drug Safety, but I'll try to find something. I think you should be okay though :)
yeah i just looked it up, there seems to be zero cross tolerance between nbome and LSD or DMT :)
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Really? Awesome, glad you understood it! And I'm not entirely sure, maybe there'd be some information on Erowid or somewhere in Drug Safety, but I'll try to find something. I think you should be okay though :)
yeah i just looked it up, there seems to be zero cross tolerance between nbome and LSD or DMT :)
Good to know, best of luck with both!
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Really? Awesome, glad you understood it! And I'm not entirely sure, maybe there'd be some information on Erowid or somewhere in Drug Safety, but I'll try to find something. I think you should be okay though :)
yeah i just looked it up, there seems to be zero cross tolerance between nbome and LSD or DMT :)
Good to know, best of luck with both!
thanks man, i will report back my journey starts on sunday morning, as long as the postman preforms like he should, hes got 5postal days to play with, fingers crossed ;)
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im also looking in to the lsd vendors as i want to try a huge 1200ug hit of acid in a couple of weeks time, thanks for the advice :)
Be careful with that. I try to do several thousand ug hits a few times a year (got one planned kinda soon actually) and it's not just a powerful LSD trip. It's almost like a completely different drug. I love it, although it's expensive.
I just wanted to add to this thread: Whilst I definitely don't recommend this for first timers or people who are prone to freak outs, I'm now considering making 1mg my minimum LSD dose. Anything lower is fun, but I find I want to go again the next weekend to try and get more out of the experience. It's like I'm not getting where I want to be, and it sort of frustrates me. My last dose was 2.5 mg and it was an intense experience with ego death, mental visuals and lots of introspection. But I got what I needed, and even days later I;m feeling refreshed and able to handle the normal world better, like I've hit a reset switch.
One of these every few of months and I think I'll be on my way to enlightenment :)
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1 mg your minimal dose... thats pretty intense.
i had 4 doses of over 1mg. 2 of them left me in the psych ward(set, setting). the other 2, changed my life; each time. i was over 18 each dose btw..
i did find myself dosing twice a week on mid doses. the larger doses, twice a month. i remember reading guys like timothy leary used to trip on acid once a week.
dam, i need to order some dmt.. i feel like it's the missing link in my experiences. lsd connect me to the digital/synthetic network within this planet, while shrooms keep me grounded to the natural/organic earth. wonder how i will explain dmt to myself.
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1 mg your minimal dose... thats pretty intense.
i had 4 doses of over 1mg. 2 of them left me in the psych ward(set, setting). the other 2, changed my life; each time. i was over 18 each dose btw..
i did find myself dosing twice a week on mid doses. the larger doses, twice a month. i remember reading guys like timothy leary used to trip on acid once a week.
dam, i need to order some dmt.. i feel like it's the missing link in my experiences. lsd connect me to the digital/synthetic network within this planet, while shrooms keep me grounded to the natural/organic earth. wonder how i will explain dmt to myself.
Say LSD and shrooms are on an axis. You can visualize it as the X axis on a graph if that helps. Say shrooms are at (-5,0) and LSD is at (5,0) DMT is the Y axis. It's it's own seperate thing and only briefly touches the same axis, or as I like to think of it in tripping terms, dimension, as LSD and shrooms. There's a small connection there, and it's an important one, but there's so much more and it's so different that it's almost it's own class of drug.
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dmt.. i feel like it's the missing link in my experiences. lsd connect me to the digital/synthetic network within this planet, while shrooms keep me grounded to the natural/organic earth. wonder how i will explain dmt to myself.
ha ha!!! please, if you figure out how to explain DMT, share your thoughts with us. we're all just grasping at straws trying to explain it.
if you feel like its the missing link in your experiences, then it probably is ;)
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lsd connect me to the digital/synthetic network within this planet, while shrooms keep me grounded to the natural/organic earth.
I think when people take shrooms, they believe it is 'natural', and therefore this brings about an association of thoughts connected with the earth... when people take LSD, they believe it's 'synthetic', and this brings about an association of thoughts connected with everything that is synthetic or 'digital' or 'abstract'... It all has to do with people's expectations.
I never had these associations when I first took LSD and mushrooms. My first trips with LSD were in nature. In fact, for me, LSD connects me with what you would call the natural-organic network, just as readily as shrooms. There's really nothing 'synthetic' or artificial about it for me.
As for DMT, all I can say is it's more like shrooms than LSD, but it is world's apart from both.
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1 mg your minimal dose... thats pretty intense.
i had 4 doses of over 1mg. 2 of them left me in the psych ward(set, setting). the other 2, changed my life; each time. i was over 18 each dose btw..
i did find myself dosing twice a week on mid doses. the larger doses, twice a month. i remember reading guys like timothy leary used to trip on acid once a week.
dam, i need to order some dmt.. i feel like it's the missing link in my experiences. lsd connect me to the digital/synthetic network within this planet, while shrooms keep me grounded to the natural/organic earth. wonder how i will explain dmt to myself.
Intense is an understatement. All up the last experience was over 18 hours (although the last 8 or so weren't tripping, just weren't baseline either) and I vomited a couple of times during the come up. But I felt even with the negative aspects it was well worth it :) I've only had one other experience in this range and it was the same, intense, but well worth it. Comparing to all the lower doses I've had I feel like I've wasted a lot of L by not going hard enough.
As I said above though, definitely not the approach I would recommend for everyone.
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received my 500mg's of DMT today got it off walter and its a white slight tan (off white) color and is a fluffy powder, best packing ive seen to date, looks good to me, i will be trying this out in the next few days, so i will report back and try my best to explain what happens :)
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lsd connect me to the digital/synthetic network within this planet, while shrooms keep me grounded to the natural/organic earth.
I think when people take shrooms, they believe it is 'natural', and therefore this brings about an association of thoughts connected with the earth... when people take LSD, they believe it's 'synthetic', and this brings about an association of thoughts connected with everything that is synthetic or 'digital' or 'abstract'... It all has to do with people's expectations.
I never had these associations when I first took LSD and mushrooms. My first trips with LSD were in nature. In fact, for me, LSD connects me with what you would call the natural-organic network, just as readily as shrooms. There's really nothing 'synthetic' or artificial about it for me.
As for DMT, all I can say is it's more like shrooms than LSD, but it is world's apart from both.
before my first lsd trip i did think of it as synthetic.. so yea that could be coloring my views. i never specifically heard anyone say such, but i did conclude that as the case while researching before i even tried lsd. i don't use the term synthetic in a negative connotation either; in fact i thoink lsd hold more relevance than shrooms since we all live in a electronic smogtropolis.
lsd felt a bit foreign/external while shrooms felt more internal. my strongest lsd trip was in nature, shit i remember sacrificing my tabs of w/w to a puddle while following the natural energy path/bends in the forest.
i look at lsd.. more like a telepathic communication from an outside spirit/archetype, very static. shrooms seem more like a one on one face 2 face conversation.
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i look at lsd.. more like a telepathic communication from an outside spirit/archetype, very static. shrooms seem more like a one on one face 2 face conversation.
mmm, i like this assessment. good choice of words.
i have the same association with LSD that you do, but its probably been colored by my own expectations and whatnot. also the first time i did LSD was in a city, so that further cements the "modern" vibe of LSD in my mind.
i used to feel like shrooms were earthy, but not anymore. now they are like space aliens to me: very otherworldly.
now Salvia...that is, to me, the essence of the earth.
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just had my first DMT experience....
started with 50mg using a 2l pop bottle with foil across the bottom, i got lots of smoke in the bottle and breathed it all in in one go, i held my breath as long as i could and i could see the wall paper in my front room start to ripple, i laid back and looked around and everything was 2d almost, very bright enhanced colors, especially yellow and creams where very eye catching, i then closed my eyes and saw colors, bright spinning hexagon shaped discs, but it quickly wore off.
next i tried 65mg then 75mg then 100mg but cant seem to get anywhere close to the first try, witch makes me think im not getting enough smoke out of it,
and after all that effort my lungs are fucked, i cant even smoke a fag without coughing my guts up.
over all, well i can defo say WOW but want more out of it, but cant seem to get enough in at once, the smoke is stinky stuff as well,
is there an easier way to take it? like snort etc???
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i used to feel like shrooms were earthy, but not anymore. now they are like space aliens to me: very otherworldly.
now Salvia...that is, to me, the essence of the earth.
I feel that way too, shrooms seem natural but not in an Earth kind of way, more of a universe kind of way. And Salvia just seems to encompass nature to me.