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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: potentchill on June 05, 2012, 04:08 am
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I posted this somewhere else already but I think I might get a better response here. So this is my situation:
Since I joined SR I've been a big supporter of Ivory, his shipping is always quick and the product is always on (or over-weight), and the quality is some of the best I've ever seen. Over the past few months I've seen other vendors offer cheaper stuff but it wasn't until today (when I realized Pfandleiher is practically giving his stuff away at less than 7BTC a gram) that I felt tempted to buy from someone other than Ivory.
So, my obvious question to SR is why keep buying from my man Ivory? Is Germany like the Netherlands where its typically alot riskier to order from there as opposed to the UK? Is Ivory's gear really that much better than PFs to justify the price? Are his shipping methods on par with Ivory?
I will honestly probably stick with Ivory either way because I love his amazing MDMA so much, but fuck all if Pfandleiher isn't tempting me with his prices. Any input would be much appreciated!
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My first order for MDMA on SR will be with Pfandleiher.
:)
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Even though NL is auto flagged I have no doubt Germany will be somewhat suspected as well and they will maybe watch the mail a lil more closely ...Germany is very drivable from NL.
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Even though NL is auto flagged I have no doubt Germany will be somewhat suspected as well and they will maybe watch the mail a lil more closely ...Germany is very drivable from NL.
Thanks. I'm not the OP but I was wondering the same question. I've lost from NL and DL.
I'm sure it wasn't the vendor's fault though. I know they do the best they can. Customs in some countries is just a bitch.
The odds are still in your favor though. I have made dozen and dozens of orders.
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Even though NL is auto flagged I have no doubt Germany will be somewhat suspected as well and they will maybe watch the mail a lil more closely ...Germany is very drivable from NL.
im sorry but this is BS,
Germany has over 82 000 000 ppl and the biggest companies, so we are sending tons of mail every day, nobody expects drugs among those.
If so i would have less success ;)
(Not promoting myself here ;) )
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Even though NL is auto flagged I have no doubt Germany will be somewhat suspected as well and they will maybe watch the mail a lil more closely ...Germany is very drivable from NL.
im sorry but this is BS,
Germany has over 82 000 000 ppl and the biggest companies, so we are sending tons of mail every day, nobody expects drugs among those.
If so i would have less success ;)
(Not promoting myself here ;) )
I have been looking for a good price on a few Gs lately. My choices are between you and Ivory. If your success rate is as good as you say maybe I'll give you a try instead. I'm a little hesitant to order from EU after I lost a couple orders last year. But, it's been a year now so maybe you'll hear from me next week :)
Update: No FE. Great price. Talk to you soon, M8.
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I have received from both. Ivory will take a little longer to get to you, but will typically have more moon rocks. Pf will get to you sooner, and will be poweder unless you special request the moon rocks.
Honestly, after trying both vendor's MDMA, (Ivory's was from his batch in late December), Pf's is better. I haven't tried Ivory's most recent stuff, however.
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Decisions, decisions.. I guess picking between 2 amazing MDMA vendors is a good problem to have.
Thanks for all the feedback, anyone else with opinions feel free to share!
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Here is some info on Ivorys stuff. Just tried it the other night. Crushed up white crystals. I wasnt as lazy as I was with jollibees or emooriums. All 3 were good. Jollibees was more yellow and ivorys was white like the empoium. Still waiting on about 8 g's from pf but I have no doubt. Might even be here today. On a side note, its been an amazing time since ive found SR. kinda of point, but it seems like mdma is pretty available. I kinda thought it was scare because of supplies needed. Good to see this stuff is around. I pray it never leaves as M is the best ever!
Everything I say is a lie.....lol
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depends where you live they are both as good as each other im told although ive only ever used ivory!
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I've never ordered from Ivory, but from what i hear it's top notch stuff.
I've been ordering from Pfand for few weeks now. I've been getting in 5g orders in no longer than week, every time.
I don't know why Germany would be any more, or less suspicious of a country than the UK? Anyone saying it's 'more suspicious' is simply spreading misinformation. Yes Germany has great drugs, but it's not like Germany is widely known for exporting those great drugs...
While I've heard Ivory stuff is amazing, I've Marquis tested every batch i've received from Pfand, all of them confirm pure MDMA. I've sold a bunch of his stuff and so many people have thanked me for hooking them up with such clean, good quality stuff.
I've yet to eat it though as i've been building back my serotonin.
I imagine their packaging isn't too much different. Ivory probably has a little better packaging. While Pfand's packaging is discreet, upon opening it you would immediately know whats up, and my last order had a small tear on the bottom, someone else on the forums mentioned something similar.
So when it comes to quality, and shipping, both vendors are probably really similar. So that just leaves the price....
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Shipping:
I've ordered from Ivory 12 times now over the course of the past 6 months. I cancelled one of those orders when it hit day 5 in processing. The other 11, I received within 5-6 days every single time to SE USA. There is definitely something to be said about consistency.
I've just placed my 5th order with PF. The first 4 all arrived on day 6. Again, very consistent so far. I do fear this will be difficult to maintain as his volume seems to have skyrocketed at those crazy prices. So far, he's handling it like a champ.
Product:
So far I feel the product quality is very similar between the two. I've only personally rolled on PF's stuff twice. I think it's hard to judge quality on 1-2 rolls as there are so many factors that can affect the roll. I'll have a better idea after this next batch but I think both put out a quality product. Ivory can definitely impress your friends with the huge crystals (biggest I've seen was a 200mg rock!).
Once I'd made a few purchases, my orders from Ivory tended to be very heavy (close to 10%). That helps with the pain of paying a premium for the product. PF has always dead-on with product weight, although it is a bit more difficult to recover the powder on smaller orders.
Price:
If anyone has earned the ability to charge more, it's Ivory. They've been here for a long ass time and have a great reputation for delivering a great product. At the end of the day, the prices on SR are still better than what you'd pay on the street for suspect molly. If it's for personal use and/or sharing with friends, I'd say it doesn't matter all that much. If you're solely looking to make a pile of cash, give PF a shot. It's hard to beat that price!
Overall, it's a great problem to have. There are some great MDMA vendors on SR. I would try more than one vendor...everyone has their own favorite. Mine isn't the same as my girlfriend and probably won't be the same as yours. Most of all, enjoy!
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Thanks OP and all posters. This is a great thread. Very informative!
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Simple answer really -
PF (you get twice as much for your money, and in my opinion it's superior quality)
Germany to UK is quick and easy, never had a problem.
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How does SKYY place in all this with their product costing in between PF's and Ivory? I heard great things about packaging and his product. I was going to go with him for my Molly order but after seeing PF's lower prices I'm not sure anymore. Any imput ?
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Two questions:
1) How does this stack to Skyy?
2) Has anyone bought bulk ( 1oz+ ) to the U.S?
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Lets face it.
If the same brand of whiskey was offered by two supermarkets and one offered 1000ml at 10 BTC anf the other 20 BTC - there is no choice!!
I have had both. They are both superior top quality MDMA around the 80% mark.
To me MDMA is a precise chemical. you either make it right or not. Many venfors here resell a certain German vendors MDMA.
I think that UK vendors are a bit pricey for MDMA but we are spoilt here and I will buy some of the Ivory MDMA soon as a buddy liked that better than the German. Told him the batch he got is way gone!
Even if MDMA is £40-50 a gram its still a cheap night out for £5 or a manic all nightrt for £10.
Its worth paying just to know you have not got some horrible nasty pill made by criminal syndicates who will press pills out of anything in the stimulant ballpark. PDA is one such nasty.
Pfand (can I call you that!) offers quality and quantity and a very fair price indeed.
But I'd advise a first time UK buyer looking for the first buy of a gram of MDMA to go for Ivory. But order in advance, If you got a big party this Saturday do not order Thursday and expect it to be there. We always get people drying about not getting something in time. I want some coke for Christmas but will not leave it for 20th December when we have insane orders come in.
It will always get to you.
So will post from Germany.
Buy a gram from both vendors.
I would personally prefer Ivory's MDMA as it was the first time I took MDMA and KNEW I'd got the real thing. 100mg of that was WAY enough for mr. That is only 80mg pure MDMA. But it blew my mind and I had to adjust to the intensity of the high to reach the pub.
Wish Ivory done his or her MDMAcheaper but the price per dose is about the price of two pints of beer. That is enough of a dose for a night. 5 hr of fun. Take one third more of the dose at peak to extend the experience to 8-9 hr.
Both vendors are fantastic but realistically having tried both I will order from Germany and have NO fear about the package being found out. For a bit of reselling in real life it wou;d have to be gear you could make 100% on with just selling the pure MDMA :D
Not that I sell MDMA but a lot of people who tried both the top vendors MDMA were VERY enthusiastic abut wanting a 1, 5, 10 or bigger bag of some REAL MDMA. Remember many people gave up on a drug which if used a few times year is fantastic. : ;D
Sesampino had good MDMA also/ Powdered it for transit but was pure crystal and smelt so strong!
Pills I do not trust them. Could be 160mg could be 60mg, could be some latest press of the top pill on pill reports.
There are Many GOOD PILLS HERE but I prefer the crystal ans prefer to measure our exact doses!
So three cheers to two great vendors! ;D ;D ;D
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i always use ivory for mdma, i think its because i have used him/her since the very start of silkroad, i cant comment on the german vendors mdma but i have had another product off him/her and packaging was great, very stealthy, but there is one other vendor i would recommend and thats dopeboy, again i aint tried his mdma but have had his mda and meth many times and again very stealthy packaging always came with in a 5day period to uk, as far as mdma price goes i dont think ivory is that expensive if you split that gram in to doses the price per dose is cheap compared to a night on the beer, plus you just cant put a price on the trust built up between buyer and vendor, i would happily pay an extra few quid just so i know im taking real mdma from a vendor that tests each batch and will even go as far as showing you pics of the test results, im my eyes ivory is number one for mdma because of the trust i have for him/her. there are other vendors who are equally trustworthy its just i have not used them for mdma, my motto is "if your happy why go elsewhere?" i have always been 100% happy with ivorys mdma and until that changes i aint going to change where i get it from, however like most drugs except weed i only use it a few times each year, i find the experience is far more intense than if i do it all the time.
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But in terms of quality, who do you think is better?
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I haven't tried Ivory's MDMA yet. Last week, I got 1g of Pfandleihers stuff and used it on Saturday night.
I was disappointed in the quality to be honest about it. Don't get me wrong, I fully admire Pfandleiher as a vendor because he is really cool and his customer service is second to none. (Pfandleiher, if you're reading this, no offence is meant ;) )
The product itself didn't taste, to me, like MDMA should and some of my friends said the same thing. We have all been using MDMA for a good few years at this stage, so are well used to the taste.
I am presently waiting on some stuff from another vendor, from The Netherlands. If I like their stuff, i'll stay with them. I am also going to try some of the Spanish vendors as their MDMA looks delicious in the pictures.