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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: robin999 on October 30, 2011, 06:16 pm
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I have some slight chemistry knowledge and I know for sure it's not any harder to produce MDA than MDMA, in fact I think it's easier. So why have the recent MDA listings been like double the price of most MDMA? Is it just cause not much is available? Also don't most people think the effects of MDMA are better than MDA anyway?
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supply and demand?
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supply and demand?
this was exactly what I was about to type when I read the title to the thread. You beat me to it.
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I want to order MDA so badly right now but I am going to wait to see if the 5 grams of MDMA I ordered from pillowtalk arrives before I put in the order for the MDA. Man pillowtalk, I hope your stuff makes it because you have what I want.
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Supply and Demand
Precisely that.
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I'm a long time lover of MDMA. Back when MDA was running rampant in pills I consumed 3 pills through the course of the night. It is dose dependent, but one of the worse nights of my life. I felt like I had lost my mind. I had a friend do the same thing several days later and had the same experience. In my opinion I avoid MDA at all costs. :-\
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MDA has a slightly different buzz than MDMA but i wouldnt say its either better or worse, They go very well together and will give you a lovely buzz with 160mg MDMA and 100mg MDA, but the reason it is so expensive is its rare and when producing it you get roughly half the amount of MDA with the same amount of safrole, and today safrole is hard to come by as they are removing it from products that used to contain it,
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the reason it is so expensive is its rare and when producing it you get roughly half the amount of MDA with the same amount of safrole
This isn't really true, the yields are the same with the aluminum amalgamation but to get MDA you need to produce the oxime of MDP2P which is one extra step. But MDMA requires methylamine which is a watched chemical.
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I was so stoked to buy some and then saw the prices offered. A little high for me.
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sounds like you know your stuff dopeboy keep up the good work mate
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Everyone here seems to love dopeboy. Hey Dopeboy would you ever sell straight MDMA? Without the MDEA? Or I remember you saying you were going to sell a MDMA/MDA mixture. That'd be sick!
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everyone loves dopeboy as his products are the best you can get,
and yeah dopeboy an MDMA/MDA mix would be fantastic mate
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Hey Dopeboy would you ever sell straight MDMA? Without the MDEA? Or I remember you saying you were going to sell a MDMA/MDA mixture.
Nah I won't be mixing them anymore, I learned my lesson with poor sales on the MDMA/EA mix. But yes I will have just straight MDMA in a month or two. I'm working on crystallizing some MDA, but it's hard because there is an impurity that seems to want to follow along with the MDA. But here's a pic of my last batch of MDMA as a bit of a teaser:
http://s7.postimage.org/e2kdcpefd/MDMA4.jpg
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Hey Dopeboy would you ever sell straight MDMA? Without the MDEA? Or I remember you saying you were going to sell a MDMA/MDA mixture.
Nah I won't be mixing them anymore, I learned my lesson with poor sales on the MDMA/EA mix. But yes I will have just straight MDMA in a month or two. I'm working on crystallizing some MDA, but it's hard because there is an impurity that seems to want to follow along with the MDA. But here's a pic of my last batch of MDMA as a bit of a teaser:
http://s7.postimage.org/e2kdcpefd/MDMA4.jpg
That's a shame, I've been on a mix of your mdma/mdea mixture for about 5 hours now, dosed back up with 80mg about 2 hours ago and I'm pretty chill. I cleaned the kitchen after cooking a huge dinner that my wife enjoyed very much but I hardly ate, drank a beer, killed some people in bf3 and now typing here. I like it better than straight MDMA, not as rushy and I don't have the urge to grind my teeth.
I bet if you put a binder in this mix and sold it as your own branded roll you'd have a hit - but some people are so adamant about getting 'pure' molly it's kind of stupid. I can't stand just MDMA - makes me sketch out.
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sharetheroad, do you snort it, or ingest it? I'm wondering if it's possible to smoke or inject the mixture.
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Hey Dopeboy would you ever sell straight MDMA? Without the MDEA? Or I remember you saying you were going to sell a MDMA/MDA mixture.
Nah I won't be mixing them anymore, I learned my lesson with poor sales on the MDMA/EA mix. But yes I will have just straight MDMA in a month or two. I'm working on crystallizing some MDA, but it's hard because there is an impurity that seems to want to follow along with the MDA. But here's a pic of my last batch of MDMA as a bit of a teaser:
http://s7.postimage.org/e2kdcpefd/MDMA4.jpg
Man it's so cool you actually make this stuff, awesome man. Anyways I'm excited for the MDA
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Dopeboy let me just say. Oh. My. God. Those shards are just amazing. I can't wait to see this listing up, will definitely be all over it. Do you have any idea of how much it will be per gram?
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As far as prices go I'm not sure. The labour and time involved is pretty intense. I'm gonna try for $80/g.
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Plz sell it for 60 a g!!!!!! Bulk discounts too would be nice =D
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I'd probably pay 75ish for those shards I was thinking, so 80 doesn't sound bad for single g orders. What about like 5-10g though?
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there is a new listing for MDA on SR, no idea how good it is, personally im going to wait for dopeboy's MDA as i am so impressed with his Meth,
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I'll go down to $60 for 5grams.
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Damn that was an awesome picture of some mdma.
One question though. Why do you sell a mdma/mdea mix of powder when you can make those crystals?
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I'll go down to $60 for 5grams.
sweet, sounds good to me, $60 for 5g! that's a steal, $12 per g, you rule dopeboy!
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Why do you sell a mdma/mdea mix of powder when you can make those crystals?
Because I had a lot of MDEA, but many people complained of an upset stomach so I mixed it with half MDMA so the nausea is minimized.
there is a new listing for MDA on SR, no idea how good it is, personally im going to wait for dopeboy's MDA as i am so impressed with his Meth,
I'll put up 6 grams of MDA as a promotion, for anyone interested:
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/11318
sweet, sounds good to me, $60 for 5g! that's a steal, $12 per g, you rule dopeboy!
Lol.
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there is a new listing for MDA on SR, no idea how good it is, personally im going to wait for dopeboy's MDA as i am so impressed with his Meth,
I'll put up 6 grams of MDA as a promotion, for anyone interested:
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/11318,
nice one dopeboy really want to try this have just ordered some coins to my account hopefully i will get them before your out, im going to order 250mg as a test :)
i just dont trust the other listing id much prefer to use a seller i trust :)
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Why do you sell a mdma/mdea mix of powder when you can make those crystals?
Because I had a lot of MDEA, but many people complained of an upset stomach so I mixed it with half MDMA so the nausea is minimized.
there is a new listing for MDA on SR, no idea how good it is, personally im going to wait for dopeboy's MDA as i am so impressed with his Meth,
I'll put up 6 grams of MDA as a promotion, for anyone interested:
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/11318
sweet, sounds good to me, $60 for 5g! that's a steal, $12 per g, you rule dopeboy!
Lol.
I've heard if you eat some tums with MDMA the nausea goes away. Anyways getting more bitcoins now to try some of your MDA Dopeboy!
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this is why many think the yield is lower this is a quote from wiki
One method of MDA synthesis is to turn safrole into isosafrole via isomerization. The isosafrole is then oxidized, using a peroxyacid, to produce MDP2P (methylenedioxyphenylacetone). Finally, it is converted to MDA via reductive amination with ammonia. This synthesis is very similar to that of MDMA (Ecstasy) and of MDEA. Only disavantage is that this method, when used to produces MDA, gives extremely low yield. To achieve decent yield, MDP2P should first be reacted with hydroxylamine to produce Isosafrole Ketoxime (MDP2P Oxime). The oxime can then be reduced to MDOH, then MDA. Both reductions can be performed at the same time if the reactants are adjusted accordingly. The most common route is by starting from piperonal, and condensing it with nitroethane. The resulting nitro-isosafrole can then be reduced to MDA with a suitable reducing agent.
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can anyone remember the snowball pills that were going round uk early 1990s ?
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nah thats a bit early for me :( as started my XTC honeymoon around 1996 but i think some were a mix of MDMA/MDA as i have not had pills that good since, and a lot of pills back then had dark specks in them, you dont really see that anymore ???
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this is why many think the yield is lower this is a quote from wiki
One method of MDA synthesis is to turn safrole into isosafrole via isomerization. The isosafrole is then oxidized, using a peroxyacid, to produce MDP2P (methylenedioxyphenylacetone). Finally, it is converted to MDA via reductive amination with ammonia. This synthesis is very similar to that of MDMA (Ecstasy) and of MDEA. Only disavantage is that this method, when used to produces MDA, gives extremely low yield. To achieve decent yield, MDP2P should first be reacted with hydroxylamine to produce Isosafrole Ketoxime (MDP2P Oxime). The oxime can then be reduced to MDOH, then MDA. Both reductions can be performed at the same time if the reactants are adjusted accordingly. The most common route is by starting from piperonal, and condensing it with nitroethane. The resulting nitro-isosafrole can then be reduced to MDA with a suitable reducing agent.
Yup, I imagine the low yields using ammonia are because it's boiling point is -33C whereas methylammonium is -6C and ethylammonium is 16C. The reduction of MDP2P is very exothermic so it would be mighty difficult to keep the ammonia in solution at such high temperatures. Not to mention it stinks like hell, ammonia is something I'd rather not play with. The MDP2P oxime reduction is apparently pretty easy, but nowadays there is a new synthesis for MDA using a completely new precursor, so that is what I use to make MDA and I will save the MDP2P to produce MDMA.
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can anyone remember the snowball pills that were going round uk early 1990s ?
I remember the smowball pills very fondly. My first ever pill exerience was wilth one of those in a London club. The highest high I have ever had and also the lowest come down ever:( Bittersweet first experience.
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can anyone remember the snowball pills that were going round uk early 1990s ?
I remember the smowball pills very fondly. My first ever pill exerience was wilth one of those in a London club. The highest high I have ever had and also the lowest come down ever:( Bittersweet first experience.
im glad you understand this dopeboy, i really wish id done chemistry degree now if only i knew back then how useful organic chemistry would be :(
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Hey Dopeboy would you ever sell straight MDMA? Without the MDEA? Or I remember you saying you were going to sell a MDMA/MDA mixture.
Nah I won't be mixing them anymore, I learned my lesson with poor sales on the MDMA/EA mix. But yes I will have just straight MDMA in a month or two. I'm working on crystallizing some MDA, but it's hard because there is an impurity that seems to want to follow along with the MDA. But here's a pic of my last batch of MDMA as a bit of a teaser:
http://s7.postimage.org/e2kdcpefd/MDMA4.jpg
My word, you have high standards. Keep up the good work, my friend.