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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: PanMan123 on April 24, 2013, 02:04 pm
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What are the odds the police bust down my for me buying 1 tab of acid or 2 pills of mdma? I know they can't legally do anything until i sign for the package so if customs contacts me i can just ignore it and let them destroy the package. Same if i get the little pink slip telling me to go to the post office where ill have to sign for it. I always thought no way in hell the police would waste their time if im buying such a small amount.
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i guess getting caught with tabs is less than 1%
also 1-5g of powder is pretty safe imo.
not very fond of pills
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Statistics are no good
Unless they have some meaning,
Some purpose, some value,
And not just empty words.
Odds of getting caught
Depend on who is at fault.
The cops try to do their job,
So do pirates and thieves and what knot.
He who knows odds of getting caught
Would never risk trouble without a thought.
That is why we play this game,
Where the goal is not getting caught.
The trouble is, there are no rules,
Except the ones to which in life we choose.
If it is too much for an individual's lot,
Then the answer to the question,
Of whether to play this game:
You should certainly refuse.
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i guess getting caught with tabs is less than 1%
also 1-5g of powder is pretty safe imo.
not very fond of pills
Getting caught with tabs are almost impossible.
A lot of vendor in fact make it REALLY impossible.
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i guess getting caught with tabs is less than 1%
also 1-5g of powder is pretty safe imo.
not very fond of pills
Getting caught with tabs are almost impossible.
A lot of vendor in fact make it REALLY impossible.
Guessing is a tragic mistake.
It leaves the world to chance, dogma, and unknown stakes.
We all know the risk we take,
It is our liberty, our freedom.
Never make guesses;
Never take risks you are unwilling to take.
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i guess no one knows. therefore i keep on guessing
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to know the difference between guessing and knowing is of great importance
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Tabs are pretty safe
It just looks like paper
Not sure about pills
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Tabs are pretty safe
It just looks like paper
Not sure about pills
Paper, pills, or quills,
It doesn't make a difference,
If you hands shake and your face lies
In the face of authority and demise.
Safety is the action we take
To safeguard that which we create.
Your life is your own,
So you must live it,
But if you travel down the road,
Then travel safe and don't ask stupid questions.
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as long as you stick to reputable domestic small orders.. you should be fine
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Acid probably the safest order. Pills are safe in small quantities, as are powders in small amounts.
Just stay the fuck away from weed, don't order weed on the SR.
Also, ordering domestic is always safer.
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Even if they do find your package somehow, they really aren't going to care that much about your 3 tabs or whatever, you'll just get a letter says don't do it again.
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Just did my first order and it is in transit...now I'm nervous? There were some reasons I figured it wouldn't get accepted so maybe that's why I'm nervous. OK so here goes my paranoia.....What if a vendor is a narc/LE and there's staging going on....Somebody debate those odds and tell me not to worry.
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if you have to ask, you shouldn't be doing it. sorry. i suggest that even if you don't take my advice you should at least read the stickied threads in the security discussion at the very least.
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Hi,
Go to my GDSR thread, I intend to update it soon.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11731.msg405172#msg405172
The Global Delivery Success Rate is in around 97%
There is some good advice in the thread about making sure it's close to 100% DSR.
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I am pretty sure that if you are inside the US and the seller uses usps, then they have to attain a federal warrant to open and search your package provided it was poorly packaged or came open during the shipment.
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threre is always risk
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Does ordering domestic make the chances of a package getting lost/disappearing any less???
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Does ordering domestic make the chances of a package getting lost/disappearing any less???
Yes. And read the GDSR thread. Plenty of people have ordered hundreds of packages without interception.
The ~3% that don't get through aren't all intercepted, only a tiny fraction of that percentage accounts for actual intercepts.
My rule of thumb is < 10g for everything except weed, which is good up to an ounce. After that ask for separate packages confirm delivery one at a time. Or come up with a more scalable way to collect more packages as detailed in a dozen threads.
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There is very little risk in spamming to 50, it's really pretty much expected.
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I unfortunately had package #5 seized.
It was mostly due to vendor packaging being flagged because some moron used the wrong address and it got returned to sender. Well there was no sender to return to, so PO opened it and the rest is history.
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The odds are always relative to the risk you are taking and it sounds like you a very unclear about the risks involved!
In Australia, Domestic orders / International orders carry remarkably different risks.
International orders are subject to sniffer dogs, parcel x-ray etc. Customs perform risk assessments and direct more resources toward high risk origin countries, known as a popular source of narcotics - this cargo will automatically receive significantly more attention. The data is also constantly updated based on seizures during the year, a lot of data analysis helps increase detections by allocating the border protection resources more efficiently. Example, you are taking a much greater risks sourcing from areas like the Golden Triangle, South America, Netherlands etc.
Another factor in customs risk assessment is simple economics. Smugglers move products to make a profit - there is no point smuggling product to a country where its valued at the same or less than where it originated. They are not providing a service or "spreading the joy" the driving force is financial gain. Analysis of data such as street prices internationally help establish the logical flow and direction narcotics follow. Again putting customs resources to best use targeting goods from these origins.
I could go on and on about the layers of this risk analysis and explain in depth other concepts but it is just far too complex for most people and definitely too complicated for this post. Importing narcotics in Australia is a fairly high risk venture, there are definitely practices which aid to mitigate that risk but there is certainly no formula to ensure success. This is definitely not something I would risk doing personally as interesting as the challenge may be! But, I am glad there are people who cannot say no to a challenge haha
Domestic on the other hand is very low risk in Australia, sniffer dogs are not really used for domestic mail and it is seldom x-rayed. The major risks here I see relate to wrong delivery and your mail with contraband being opened by others, poor packaging of smell exposing the illicit contents, vendor gets caught with the narcotics before it gets mailed, vendor has been targeted by LE and your identity is discovered. Still not free of risk but considerably less chance of being caught, and less penalties if you do get busted because you have not broken any customs laws.
People should know more about what they are doing and the risks involved before blindly doing things which could adversely effect their lives...
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odds are generally low, but the consequences can be high, so best to be careful
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Not really much to be gained from busting small time users. Not like you could finger anyone on TSR anyway...
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I unfortunately had package #5 seized.
It was mostly due to vendor packaging being flagged because some moron used the wrong address and it got returned to sender. Well there was no sender to return to, so PO opened it and the rest is history.
isnt it illegal to open someones mail?
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just keep ur house clear of anything else or well fucking stashed so u in the clear wen the dogs come.
then deny deny deny
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straight out of my ass, assuming decent packaging, no bad practices (like checking tracking with Tor) and not massive weights, I would guess that the chances of a domestic interception are about 1:10,000 and for international probably more like 1:100 .
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Just did my first order and it is in transit...now I'm nervous? There were some reasons I figured it wouldn't get accepted so maybe that's why I'm nervous. OK so here goes my paranoia.....What if a vendor is a narc/LE and there's staging going on....Somebody debate those odds and tell me not to worry.
Are you fucking serious?
You've made an order and NOW admit to having reservations?
Did you read reviews? Did you research the max limit attributed to 'dealing' within your country?
Do you research mate and hope like hell if you do get picked up that you don't crap your pants.
It's about risk and reward if you can't find a positive then walk away and don't come back.
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Does ordering domestic make the chances of a package getting lost/disappearing any less???
Yes. And read the GDSR thread. Plenty of people have ordered hundreds of packages without interception.
The ~3% that don't get through aren't all intercepted, only a tiny fraction of that percentage accounts for actual intercepts.
My rule of thumb is < 10g for everything except weed, which is good up to an ounce. After that ask for separate packages confirm delivery one at a time. Or come up with a more scalable way to collect more packages as detailed in a dozen threads.
This is the number people should be aiming for unless they have big nuts and can shift it. <10 will keep any offence a minor one.
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If you're smart it's very unlikely. Look at all of the vendors that haven't gotten busted! actually I've maybe only heard of 1 vendor getting busted and I also think it probably was for something else.
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Bout tree fiddy percent
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Never heard of anyone getting there package of personal use tabs intercepted although there always is a risk.
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odds are low until they are HIGH.. very high..
U dont even have to be at fault. The vendor could fuk up, could have slipped somewhere and get it flagged and with tabs u are getting charged with the weight of the paper. FYI...
so best is to never even start.. but if u do just cover your ass and have a VERY good lawyer in your hip pocket cause its very very tru.. if u cant do the time DONT do the crime.
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depends mainly on the vendor and you, but also on the place both parts are living in
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OP walk us through how you go about purchasing your drugs.
Perhaps if you retrace your steps and you've been as careful as humanly possible then you may convince yourself that the likelihood of being caught AND charged is minuscule.
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U need to look at it the other way... Like guilty until proven innocent... U need to think busted until ingestion.
Cause u can do all u can do.. Like getting in a car. U can be the best driver in the world. But that old lady that just dozed off at the wheel next to u cause she 900 years old and should not be driving herself to Get her meds just drifted into you and sent u flying off a bridge.
U have no control of anything. Just a series of calculated risks. But always remember if u were busted do u have your plan in line do u have your lawyer ready... Can u have a business without proper insurance these days.
Damn not even close to 50 yet!