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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: milliardo23 on April 22, 2013, 02:47 pm
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Ok so if you order one small order, is it risky to put your address in before you order? whats the risk?
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I would like to know the same thing. It seems to me that vendors would be the only ones who really should take the extra caution of protecting their address!
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yeah I don't think the feds would waste their time on buyer that doesn't buy that often lol
sellers on the other hand, they would probably spend more time on
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Personally I would encrypt every message I send on the market, but that seems to annoy some vendors. I always encrypt my address. But it is your safety, treat it however you please.
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Why is this even a question?????? If you read anything that had to do with security on SR you would know to ALWAYS encrypt sensitive info such as your address. Besides the fact that it's senseless to have LE know your address, especially when getting drugs sent through the mail(a felony), it's also not safe for the sellers. If your address gets flagged than any packages getting sent there might get traced back to whatever postoffice they sent it from. PGP takes less than a minute to use to encrypt something. Learn it, use it. It's just safer for everyone that way.
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I would like to know the same thing. It seems to me that vendors would be the only ones who really should take the extra caution of protecting their address!
If you're buying highly illegal substances through the postage system then you'd have to be really fucking retarded not to take all the security measures available to protect yourself.
Jesus Christ.
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For the sake of your freedom encrypt!
Do you really think that if they raid the silk road servers that they will just forgive all the buyers?
They will have this big bust and no vendor addresses, and most buyer addresses will be encrypted. They will go after the unencrypted addresses and punish them extra for all the people they could not get.
Remember the farmers market?
It is not that hard. If you run windows google "windows pgp tutorial", if you run another OS then replace "windows" with the name of your OS. It is a lot easier than spending time in jail.
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Ok so if you order one small order, is it risky to put your address in before you order? whats the risk?
The risk is your address is floating around SR unencrypted. If anything should happen to the site, or the vendor you are trying to purchase from then you are running a big risk of LE coming knocking.
Many vendors won't serve you if you don't use PGP. If you are being lazy and won't learn PGP (your loss) there are a few vendors that will use privnote.
I have been on the road 6 days, it took me a few hours one evening to download and learn PGP. Another few evenings to iron out the bugs and now I can keep my address away from prying eyes and keep the vendors happy.
If no one used PGP imagine what a vendors inbox would look like...100s of addresses all readable and unencrypted. Not cool.
It really doesn't take long to learn, apply yourself.
Remember PGP, don't FE and stay frosty 8)
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didn't the sr server automatically delete the address?
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SR does automatically delete the address, but using PGP is so simple and gives you an additional level of certainty that only you and the vendor can read the address. Why not just use it?
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Yeah they get deleted, what I meant was there will be 100s of addresses just sitting there before the transactions are processed.
Another thing, don't give the LE anything for free. If standards slide it could bring things on top for all of us not just yourself.
I'm not having a go here, just trying to emphasis the point ;)
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Fucking hell, you're an idiot. Seriously, this is the kind of retarded shit that gets people busted.
Just stay away from the Silk Road entirely.
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Use PGP for ANY sensitive information, EVERY TIME NO EXCEPTIONS.
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I would like to know the same thing. It seems to me that vendors would be the only ones who really should take the extra caution of protecting their address!
If you're buying highly illegal substances through the postage system then you'd have to be really fucking retarded not to take all the security measures available to protect yourself.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ we were just asking a question. One that has been answered. I will PGP every time just not to be yelled at again, I got it! But did you have to be so awful about telling us!
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This is stupid. Why wouldn't you encrypt? Its very easy, you can watch youtube videos that show you to do it. It takes about 5 minutes to learn how and about 1 minute to do. Don't be so lazy.
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I personally would encrypt anything you would deem as sensitive information and i would always encrypt my address.
It only takes 10 minutes to learn and about 30 seconds to actually use so i don't see why you wouldn't use it.
I wouldn't knowingly spark up a joint in front of a police officer and say hey i live in XXX, so why would i publically say Hey i live here and i want 5 grams of mdma?
Just encrypt your sensitive stuff, why take unnecessary risks ya'know?
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Do eet, you certainly won't regret the extra peace of mind. :D
I use the 'GPA' tool that comes with GPG4Win. Soooo easy.
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I would like to know the same thing. It seems to me that vendors would be the only ones who really should take the extra caution of protecting their address!
If you're buying highly illegal substances through the postage system then you'd have to be really fucking retarded not to take all the security measures available to protect yourself.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ we were just asking a question. One that has been answered. I will PGP every time just not to be yelled at again, I got it! But did you have to be so awful about telling us!
Yes, yes I did. Use your head man, it's common sense.
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The reason why some people are miffed is that encryption is protection for the *buyers* mscat. It's not a favor for the vendor at all. And to prevent the SR servers becoming a valuable target. Compared to those, the benefit to the vendors themselves is quite marginal (since they could always encrypt the information at their end anyway just for the purpose of obstructing LE detective work, same way you'd burn a notebook filled with inventory/accounts data if agents came knocking).
The result of most people using PGP is that seizing the Silk Road's physical hardware is a Pyrrhic victory for the adversary, and they know it.
If you want to test PGP, send pine a PGP encrypted message. My public key is in my sig.
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Always encrypt sensitive information man..
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I've managed to escape the burden of PGP for 3 months. I'm new on here, but I've gotten many things w/o PGP. Though I want to learn, I feel I was safe because Silk Road is encrypted already.
It seems like wearing two condoms to have sex with your partner!!!!!!
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I've managed to escape the burden of PGP for 3 months. I'm new on here, but I've gotten many things w/o PGP. Though I want to learn, I feel I was safe because Silk Road is encrypted already.
It seems like wearing two condoms to have sex with your partner!!!!!!
Ahhh. Those posters who make us wish that they were trolls.
I nominate you to Moonbear of the Month award. I was going to give to the guy who has been logging in using onion.to, but you sir, are the real contender.
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I've managed to escape the burden of PGP for 3 months. I'm new on here, but I've gotten many things w/o PGP. Though I want to learn, I feel I was safe because Silk Road is encrypted already.
It seems like wearing two condoms to have sex with your partner!!!!!!
LOL this account
While it is definitely a good idea for the majority of users to use PGP, it seems like many sellers don't mind if you don't encrypt your information. But if Silk Road ever goes down and you have an order that can be traced to your address you are totally fucked!
So everyone should take a simple precaution. It is free and very easy to learn how to use.
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Hi 'mscat' and welcome to the Road.
Encryption esp PGP (Pretty Good Privacy aka GPG...read up wiki about it) makes it VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE for LE to "crack" encrypted mail ....LE know this ... and HATE it!
IF (love help us!?) members did not "encrypt" their addy's, this place WOULD BE swarming with (more?) LE! TF becoz of encryption, WE, the CUSTOMERS Can and DO make a big difference in "how this game plays out"
After all...."what 'they dont know' can't hurt You" is where we're at! As you can see by the responses of the other members! I just thought I'd 'explain why' a little bit...+1 for being cool about it !
The forums are worth spending some time in ... and learning as much about this type of stuff as you like ;o)
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always encrypt!
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Yep! +1 dino
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PGP 4 LYFE
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I've managed to escape the burden of PGP for 3 months. I'm new on here, but I've gotten many things w/o PGP. Though I want to learn, I feel I was safe because Silk Road is encrypted already.
It seems like wearing two condoms to have sex with your partner!!!!!!
Not using encryption on SR because SR claims it's already encrypted, is more like not using a condom with a hooker who claims to be free of STDs.
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The reason why some people are miffed is that encryption is protection for the *buyers* mscat. It's not a favor for the vendor at all. And to prevent the SR servers becoming a valuable target. Compared to those, the benefit to the vendors themselves is quite marginal (since they could always encrypt the information at their end anyway just for the purpose of obstructing LE detective work, same way you'd burn a notebook filled with inventory/accounts data if agents came knocking).
The result of most people using PGP is that seizing the Silk Road's physical hardware is a Pyrrhic victory for the adversary, and they know it.
If you want to test PGP, send pine a PGP encrypted message. My public key is in my sig.
Thanks Pine.
I know how to use PGP, I actually learned it back when I was in high school. I just wanted to know as a buyer why it was important, and I now understand completely. I will always PGP and make sure I tell others to PGP
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First off: PINE!!!!! Welcome back!!!! much love and missed you! my fellow pgp enthusiast, where have you been ? Your absence has left an unencrypted hole in my digital heart.
Secondly: ENCRYPT - why trust anyone? Silk Road and these forums are just a conduit for information, they provide a lovely service, but why would you trust any service provider with any of your personal information? Silk Road and other sites have no need to know what you are actually are saying, only the person you're dealing with directly need to know the details of your conversation.
I've created an onion, now linked to by several of the directories and wiki's in the onion patch, that has been well received and supported. It is several links to guides for encryption and a tool to test your encryption methods to make sure you're doing it correctly: http://p3lr4cdm3pv4plyj.onion/
Please feel free to browse this onion and if you have any suggestions on how to improve it, please drop me a line.
Good luck to you all, stay secure, and happy hunting!
-wicked
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Thanks Pine.
I know how to use PGP, I actually learned it back when I was in high school. I just wanted to know as a buyer why it was important, and I now understand completely. I will always PGP and make sure I tell others to PGP
So long as you see the light/join our dangerous cult :)
First off: PINE!!!!! Welcome back!!!! much love and missed you! my fellow pgp enthusiast, where have you been ? Your absence has left an unencrypted hole in my digital heart.
Unencrypted! Oh no! Pre-SR is sort of fuzzy, but I think (didgeridoo sounds) I was communing with my fellow platypuses and the Jackal. We went on a great journey together in the Dreamtime, having many adventures and visiting exotic locations before returning to this world.
I thought you had more posts? What happened! :)
I've created an onion, now linked to by several of the directories and wiki's in the onion patch, that has been well received and supported. It is several links to guides for encryption and a tool to test your encryption methods to make sure you're doing it correctly: http://p3lr4cdm3pv4plyj.onion/
I'll add it to my collection and put it in a new thread later on. There's lots of silly onions but not so many useful ones.
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I do not refuse buyers who do not use PGP, but I draw the line at privnote.
If you use PGP then only I can read it.
If you send plain text then only Silk Road and I can read it.
If you send by privnote then privnote, Silk Road and I can read it.
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To encrypt or not to encrypt?
To hide or not to hide,
Your location, your identity,
Whether true, whether accurate.
It is the methods of a pirate,
That true pirates don't share.
They hint and suggest,
But never reveal all,
For the truth they would bare,
In front of everyone,
To the world they would not spare.
Encryption adds security,
In good weather, or when we fall ill.
Although small and finite,
256 is better than nill.
Please do encrypt,
Or you may kill us all.
A vendor would not, should not
Send to an address,
Which has been left unencrypted,
Left to easily be revealed.
Make the storm troopers work,
Put your words in a prose,
Of jibberish and cryptography,
So that we may all keep getting hosed.
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I would like to know the same thing. It seems to me that vendors would be the only ones who really should take the extra caution of protecting their address!
If you're buying highly illegal substances through the postage system then you'd have to be really fucking retarded not to take all the security measures available to protect yourself.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ we were just asking a question. One that has been answered. I will PGP every time just not to be yelled at again, I got it! But did you have to be so awful about telling us!
Don't botter. They're just a bunch of assholes.
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I do not refuse buyers who do not use PGP, but I draw the line at privnote.
If you use PGP then only I can read it.
If you send plain text then only Silk Road and I can read it.
If you send by privnote then privnote, Silk Road and I can read it.
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Tess is a super-mothafucka-awesome-good vendor. Listen to him.
I'm just waiting his WoW...
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I would like to know the same thing. It seems to me that vendors would be the only ones who really should take the extra caution of protecting their address!
If you're buying highly illegal substances through the postage system then you'd have to be really fucking retarded not to take all the security measures available to protect yourself.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ we were just asking a question. One that has been answered. I will PGP every time just not to be yelled at again, I got it! But did you have to be so awful about telling us!
Don't botter. They're just a bunch of assholes.
Children need to be scolded,
Time and again, until they are molded.
Bad manners is bad form,
And such will get you reformed
Into an inmate of county, state, or country.
Don't be so naive to think
That our scolding is too strong a drink
Because sometimes the mind grows weak
With good drugs into our bodies we do sink.
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I agree with the consensus - encrypt ALL communications when transacting through SR.
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Encrypt your address
It is for the best really
It helps keep you safe
There are online tools
If you don't have a client
You can search for them