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Title: Eyecontact
Post by: valakki on April 17, 2013, 11:24 pm
How much do you do it? With your co workers? People on the bus or street? Family members? Lovers?
Do you try to look into everyone`s eye? What is the norm: lots of eye contact or just a few scattered here and there? 

i want to know what you ppl think. Because for me, every eye contact is a journey and every single time I learn something about the person.
Its a wonderful experience, but sometimes I feel like its not appropriate!

Write down your thoughts!!
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: thereefers245 on April 17, 2013, 11:58 pm
You should give eye contact to every person you talk to, show's you mean business and you don't fuck around. Get bitches wet as fuck, if you are fairly attractive, makes people respect you no matter what you look like.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Zenedar on April 18, 2013, 12:36 am
ya eye contact is a funny thing.

I find myself not knowing where to look when im on a subway. Once you make direct eye contact with someone its kind of weird to do it again for a 2nd time for some reason....
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Razorspyne on April 18, 2013, 12:57 am
You should give eye contact to every person you talk to, show's you mean business and you don't fuck around. Get bitches wet as fuck, if you are fairly attractive, makes people respect you no matter what you look like.

This ^^.

I use eye-contact a lot more for people I don;t trust, it's caveman psychology that plebs can appreciate. By rights you shouldn't have to look someone dead in their eye to the point of staring in order for them to treat you the same way they would if you hadn't, but often you do. If you are dealing with a retailer or cashier for a refund, or someone who is just basically dodgy, it helps to look them directly in their eye so they understand you

...mean business and you don't fuck around...


It's basic 101 for dealing with shits.

Co-workers typically yes but depends on situation, staring never helps but a good amount of eye-contact is necessary to co-exist in the same area for a few hours every day.

I would leave eye-contact alone with people on the bus or street unless you need to keep an eye on them as some may find that confrontational (like me 8) ). I don't like people staring at me unless I give them permission to lol ::) . In my xp I have found that most people who use eye-contact for no reason to the point of staring at you on the street, generally are seedy people wanting to ask you for money or some other scam. Or just lower class in general.

I think it is necessary for family members to actually look at each other from time to time.

Mmm........ I don't think you can be a lover without a good amount of eye-contact, I think it's only natural. You tend to like your wife (or girlfriend) more than others so usually they receive more eye contact. ::) :-*

The norm of maintaining eye-contact differs according to who concerned. If somebody is running at you with a butcher knife then it is probably a good idea to look at them fully. (For obvious reasons.)

Of course you learn something from someone through eye-contact, it can sometimes provide a good heads up before actually engaging on conversation with them. I don't think it is enough for it to be a journey though.

Finally, it's not appropriate to engage in eye-contact if you have no reason to. If someone is passing you in the supermarket aisle don't enter into a fucking mystical journey into their eyes as they are just there to shop.

................................. >:D           ::)

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: kmfkewm on April 18, 2013, 03:50 am
I find eye contact to be rather awkward. I mean, I make eye contact, but to me it seems almost like a foreign language. People look at my eyes, then they look away, then around then back at my eyes for a while. It is like wtf. What is the point of that? Is it trying to convey some information to me? How long should I look at their eyes for, I don't fucking know. Normally I just mimic the person I am talking with. If they look at my eyes I look at theirs, if they look away I look away. However, I realized that this would give the impression that I am looking at their eyes too much, as I will always be looking at their eyes when they are looking at me, and they wont be looking at me to see I am looking away, so now I sort of time how long and frequently they look away from my eyes and try to match the frequency and duration without being perfectly synched. I don't have any idea why I do this though, simply because for some reason it is expected of me I guess. I much prefer text based communication, it is to the point and avoids bizarre rituals such as this.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: tango on April 18, 2013, 03:51 am
You should give eye contact to every person you talk to, show's you mean business and you don't fuck around. Get bitches wet as fuck, if you are fairly attractive, makes people respect you no matter what you look like.

Agree with this.

Although there is a limit of eye contact, staring for long periods of time can be weird.
You need to occasionally break eye contact, doing so by looking up or to the side rather than down

Maintain eye contact when you are the person doing the talking, less so when they are talking to you... but not to the point where they think ur being rude and not giving a fuck about what they have to say.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: directdope on April 18, 2013, 03:53 am
straight to the eye of every human being!
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Razorspyne on April 18, 2013, 03:55 am
I find eye contact to be rather awkward. I mean, I make eye contact, but to me it seems almost like a foreign language. People look at my eyes, then they look away, then around then back at my eyes for a while. It is like wtf. What is the point of that? Is it trying to convey some information to me? How long should I look at their eyes for, I don't fucking know. Normally I just mimic the person I am talking with. If they look at my eyes I look at theirs, if they look away I look away. However, I realized that this would give the impression that I am looking at their eyes too much, as I will always be looking at their eyes when they are looking at me, and they wont be looking at me to see I am looking away, so now I sort of time how long and frequently they look away from my eyes and try to match the frequency and duration without being perfectly synched. I don't have any idea why I do this though, simply because for some reason it is expected of me I guess. I much prefer text based communication, it is to the point and avoids bizarre rituals such as this.

I'm quoting this so you don't get any ideas of removing it. Made me LOL. ::) Gold baby. >:D

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: valakki on April 18, 2013, 09:44 am
good posts!



Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: polyphemusperception on April 18, 2013, 01:14 pm
there should be an eye contact booth at every party, rave, and festival  ::)
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 18, 2013, 02:46 pm
I use eye contact when I want to dominate someones mind. This has been a fact for me. When I use eye contact on a male it's like I'm fighting him mentally. Either he will get intimidated or he will get pissed off. Depends who is more of a man. People who abuse their power over other, if you stare into their eyes will always look away as they are cowards.
I will stare into a women's eyes to show a sort of dominance and also when women see you looking into their eyes they really think you are admiring them and really listening to what they are saying, so yes, they get wet as fuck.

Chaos
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: oldtoby on April 19, 2013, 12:28 am
I make eye contact, but to me it seems almost like a foreign language...
Normally I just mimic the person I am talking with.

For someone who doesn't understand eye contact, you made a good choice. This is actually an old sales tactic, social psychology from way back when. If you want to put someone at ease you (subtly) mimic their body language, including blinking rate, breathing rate, and eye contact. You'd think this would unnerve them but no, it puts them at ease.

But there's eye contact with people you're talking to, and there's eye contact with people you're encountering outside of conversation (passing in stores, on the subway/train/bus, on the street). Eye contact is an invitation to engage, positively or negatively. Like personal space, it definitely seems to vary according to place and context. On the subway at night, maybe you don't make eye contact with anybody, but at work, you visually acknowledge strangers who pass you in the hall. Or if you're from a culture where directness can be disrespectful, maybe you mostly avoid eye contact at all. That's a thing that's changed in witness evaluations over the years, because assumptions may not carry across cultures.

As for me, I remember going through a period of extreme self-doubt in which I met the gaze of no one that I wasn't talking to. The day I shook off the doubt was the day I started looking strangers in the eye again, and realized what I'd been doing.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: kittenfluff on April 19, 2013, 11:52 am
I find eye contact to be rather awkward. I mean, I make eye contact, but to me it seems almost like a foreign language. People look at my eyes, then they look away, then around then back at my eyes for a while. It is like wtf. What is the point of that? Is it trying to convey some information to me? How long should I look at their eyes for, I don't fucking know. Normally I just mimic the person I am talking with. If they look at my eyes I look at theirs, if they look away I look away. However, I realized that this would give the impression that I am looking at their eyes too much, as I will always be looking at their eyes when they are looking at me, and they wont be looking at me to see I am looking away, so now I sort of time how long and frequently they look away from my eyes and try to match the frequency and duration without being perfectly synched. I don't have any idea why I do this though, simply because for some reason it is expected of me I guess. I much prefer text based communication, it is to the point and avoids bizarre rituals such as this.

I'm kind of similar - I don't naturally look at someone's eyes while talking to them. I tend to look over their left shoulder of at their mouths. It's probably because I'm borderline aspie - it's one of the indicators, and I score high on autism tests (so do my cousins, and one has Asperger's), amongst other things. Possibly you are too....  ???

That said, I do make an effort to remember to make eye-contact as it is essential. It does take an effort though....  :-[
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: anonypunk on April 19, 2013, 11:03 pm
I used to make sure to make eye contact with authority figures as a kid and now as an adult I find it's useful in a lot of ways. Try it with cops if you are getting harassed and see how they react.  ;) It's great in business deals of all kinds and gives you an upper hand. In social situations people see you as warm and inviting if you do it genuinely. If I'm high as hell and my eyes are dilated though I tend to look away from those that aren't on the same wavelength as me. Sober people tend to freak me out if I'm really up there.  :o
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 20, 2013, 01:38 am
I used to make sure to make eye contact with authority figures as a kid and now as an adult I find it's useful in a lot of ways. Try it with cops if you are getting harassed and see how they react.  ;) It's great in business deals of all kinds and gives you an upper hand. In social situations people see you as warm and inviting if you do it genuinely. If I'm high as hell and my eyes are dilated though I tend to look away from those that aren't on the same wavelength as me. Sober people tend to freak me out if I'm really up there.  :o
Bad idea. You stare into a cops eyes your are asking for confrontation. He is a police officer so he will win that pissing contest.

Chaos
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: sofish89 on April 20, 2013, 01:59 am
They say  liars have a hard time making eye contact when they lie so  whenever a cop asks is there anything illegal  in your car  i always look the cop straight in the eye and say no sir.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 20, 2013, 02:18 am
They say  liars have a hard time making eye contact when they lie so  whenever a cop asks is there anything illegal  in your car  i always look the cop straight in the eye and say no sir.
This is true. I have a close friend who's a cop. A police officer is trained to look for several things when questioning. If you look at your feet they assume guilt, if you look away then they assume false veracity.

Chaos
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: PuretyAboveAll on April 20, 2013, 02:39 am
I will be honest. I could not be bothered reading all the other posts.

Here is my 2 bits though.

Giving a person eye contact, is in most cases giving them respect. For instance if you meat somebody and shake hands. If the other person is looking away my first impression of him/her is often that they are imature.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: directdope on April 20, 2013, 05:17 pm
They say  liars have a hard time making eye contact when they lie so  whenever a cop asks is there anything illegal  in your car  i always look the cop straight in the eye and say no sir.

straight in the eye and say: no sir, they're ALL in my brain...
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: blueveil on April 20, 2013, 05:57 pm
The whole Blueveil crew uses large amounts of eye contact with all people we come in contact with. Keeps sketchy fucks on their tows and shows us when we are dealing with liars. I have personally cut off dozens of business relationships for lack of eye contact when speaking to myself or another crew member.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: valakki on April 20, 2013, 08:06 pm
I started making a lot more eye contact than i used to.... and it works wonders.
I actually got dilated pupils nearly all the time....(not too much.. but more dilated than normal)
Look a woman in the eye like that.... with bedroom eyes..... they loose their mind.... gets them really going. Its amazing!
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: pine on April 22, 2013, 07:57 am
Go for the eyes Boo, GO FOR THE EYES!! RrraaaAAGHGHH!!! :))
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: tango on April 22, 2013, 08:31 am
I used to make sure to make eye contact with authority figures as a kid and now as an adult I find it's useful in a lot of ways. Try it with cops if you are getting harassed and see how they react.  ;) It's great in business deals of all kinds and gives you an upper hand. In social situations people see you as warm and inviting if you do it genuinely. If I'm high as hell and my eyes are dilated though I tend to look away from those that aren't on the same wavelength as me. Sober people tend to freak me out if I'm really up there.  :o
Bad idea. You stare into a cops eyes your are asking for confrontation. He is a police officer so he will win that pissing contest.

Chaos

+1

Don't stare at the cops!  Don't even look at them if you can help it.   You would not believe how many times I have been riding in a car with lots of drugs in it and when somebody sees a cop, everybody turns and stares at them.   They are much more likely to stop you and search you if they notice you staring at them.

There is a difference between looking at them in the eye whilst talking to them, and looking at them suspiciously whilst driving.

If a cop is talking to you, and ur looking away because you cant look him in the eye, shows you are hiding something and shit scared because you know you are doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 22, 2013, 08:46 am
They say  liars have a hard time making eye contact when they lie so  whenever a cop asks is there anything illegal  in your car  i always look the cop straight in the eye and say no sir.
This is true. I have a close friend who's a cop. A police officer is trained to look for several things when questioning. If you look at your feet they assume guilt, if you look away then they assume false veracity.

Chaos
Just requoting myself tango, your damn right. What eye contact comes down to is subjective. It all depends when, where, and who, you are going to have eye contact with. That decides if you should or shouldn't.

Chaos
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Razorspyne on April 22, 2013, 01:46 pm
I used to make sure to make eye contact with authority figures as a kid and now as an adult I find it's useful in a lot of ways. Try it with cops if you are getting harassed and see how they react.  ;) It's great in business deals of all kinds and gives you an upper hand. In social situations people see you as warm and inviting if you do it genuinely. If I'm high as hell and my eyes are dilated though I tend to look away from those that aren't on the same wavelength as me. Sober people tend to freak me out if I'm really up there.  :o
Bad idea. You stare into a cops eyes your are asking for confrontation. He is a police officer so he will win that pissing contest.

Chaos

+1

Don't stare at the cops!  Don't even look at them if you can help it.   You would not believe how many times I have been riding in a car with lots of drugs in it and when somebody sees a cop, everybody turns and stares at them.   They are much more likely to stop you and search you if they notice you staring at them.

There is a difference between looking at them in the eye whilst talking to them, and looking at them suspiciously whilst driving.

If a cop is talking to you, and ur looking away because you cant look him in the eye, shows you are hiding something and shit scared because you know you are doing something wrong.

This ^^. Virtus stat in medio. ***Raz yawns. My brownies all gone. :-\ ***

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: valakki on April 22, 2013, 03:13 pm
I used to make sure to make eye contact with authority figures as a kid and now as an adult I find it's useful in a lot of ways. Try it with cops if you are getting harassed and see how they react.  ;) It's great in business deals of all kinds and gives you an upper hand. In social situations people see you as warm and inviting if you do it genuinely. If I'm high as hell and my eyes are dilated though I tend to look away from those that aren't on the same wavelength as me. Sober people tend to freak me out if I'm really up there.  :o
Bad idea. You stare into a cops eyes your are asking for confrontation. He is a police officer so he will win that pissing contest.

Chaos

+1

Don't stare at the cops!  Don't even look at them if you can help it.   You would not believe how many times I have been riding in a car with lots of drugs in it and when somebody sees a cop, everybody turns and stares at them.   They are much more likely to stop you and search you if they notice you staring at them.

There is a difference between looking at them in the eye whilst talking to them, and looking at them suspiciously whilst driving.

If a cop is talking to you, and ur looking away because you cant look him in the eye, shows you are hiding something and shit scared because you know you are doing something wrong.

This ^^. Virtus stat in medio. ***Raz yawns. My brownies all gone. :-\ ***

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.


but when we talk to cops we want to look submissive. right?  isnt eye contact is a  sign of dominant behavior?
and if i look a cop straight in the eye he will see that Im fucked up!! thats not good.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 22, 2013, 04:07 pm
Again, it's all confidence. Look the cop in the eye, but don't stare him down. Be relaxed, don't think, "oh shit I'm going to jail", think "this guy is wasting my time, lets get this done so I can go home." If you are guilty it is all in your face. Just lie to yourself. Tell yourself that you are fine and not high, because if you were fine you wouldn't be freaking out would you?

Chaos
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Razorspyne on April 22, 2013, 05:59 pm
I used to make sure to make eye contact with authority figures as a kid and now as an adult I find it's useful in a lot of ways. Try it with cops if you are getting harassed and see how they react.  ;) It's great in business deals of all kinds and gives you an upper hand. In social situations people see you as warm and inviting if you do it genuinely. If I'm high as hell and my eyes are dilated though I tend to look away from those that aren't on the same wavelength as me. Sober people tend to freak me out if I'm really up there.  :o
Bad idea. You stare into a cops eyes your are asking for confrontation. He is a police officer so he will win that pissing contest.

Chaos

+1

Don't stare at the cops!  Don't even look at them if you can help it.   You would not believe how many times I have been riding in a car with lots of drugs in it and when somebody sees a cop, everybody turns and stares at them.   They are much more likely to stop you and search you if they notice you staring at them.

There is a difference between looking at them in the eye whilst talking to them, and looking at them suspiciously whilst driving.

If a cop is talking to you, and ur looking away because you cant look him in the eye, shows you are hiding something and shit scared because you know you are doing something wrong.

This ^^. Virtus stat in medio. ***Raz yawns. My brownies all gone. :-\ ***

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.


but when we talk to cops we want to look submissive. right?  isnt eye contact is a  sign of dominant behavior?
and if i look a cop straight in the eye he will see that Im fucked up!! thats not good.

No, you definitely do not want to look submissive when you talk to cops b/c they will feed off that. More police abuse civilians when they see they are in a state of vulnerability or a character they perceive as weak. It is best to avoid either extremes. You do not need to pick a fight with a cop in order to maintain your dignity. If you feel a cop will administer fairer treatment by being submissive, then it's possible they are encouraging it by being intimidating when you attempt to speak normally, and relaxing when they see a victim slump their shoulders and retreat into silence. These cops should be recognised for what they are. If you are stoned then it's probably not such a great idea to hang around and chat and stare at his eye-ball (always a male cop, the female cops are never a problem).

Talk normally, and without being aggressive, but don't be submissive or you will encourage predatory behaviour.

Why do you think they became cops in the first place?

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: valakki on April 22, 2013, 08:32 pm
I used to make sure to make eye contact with authority figures as a kid and now as an adult I find it's useful in a lot of ways. Try it with cops if you are getting harassed and see how they react.  ;) It's great in business deals of all kinds and gives you an upper hand. In social situations people see you as warm and inviting if you do it genuinely. If I'm high as hell and my eyes are dilated though I tend to look away from those that aren't on the same wavelength as me. Sober people tend to freak me out if I'm really up there.  :o
Bad idea. You stare into a cops eyes your are asking for confrontation. He is a police officer so he will win that pissing contest.

Chaos

+1

Don't stare at the cops!  Don't even look at them if you can help it.   You would not believe how many times I have been riding in a car with lots of drugs in it and when somebody sees a cop, everybody turns and stares at them.   They are much more likely to stop you and search you if they notice you staring at them.

There is a difference between looking at them in the eye whilst talking to them, and looking at them suspiciously whilst driving.

If a cop is talking to you, and ur looking away because you cant look him in the eye, shows you are hiding something and shit scared because you know you are doing something wrong.

This ^^. Virtus stat in medio. ***Raz yawns. My brownies all gone. :-\ ***

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.


but when we talk to cops we want to look submissive. right?  isnt eye contact is a  sign of dominant behavior?
and if i look a cop straight in the eye he will see that Im fucked up!! thats not good.

No, you definitely do not want to look submissive when you talk to cops b/c they will feed off that. More police abuse civilians when they see they are in a state of vulnerability or a character they perceive as weak. It is best to avoid either extremes. You do not need to pick a fight with a cop in order to maintain your dignity. If you feel a cop will administer fairer treatment by being submissive, then it's possible they are encouraging it by being intimidating when you attempt to speak normally, and relaxing when they see a victim slump their shoulders and retreat into silence. These cops should be recognised for what they are. If you are stoned then it's probably not such a great idea to hang around and chat and stare at his eye-ball (always a male cop, the female cops are never a problem).

Talk normally, and without being aggressive, but don't be submissive or you will encourage predatory behaviour.

Why do you think they became cops in the first place?

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
good advice!
I just got searched by the coppers on a train. (happens a lot)
i did not make any eye contact because my pupils are huge! but no problems...
fully cooperating is just as important i guess... I actually asked them if they want me to empty my pockets....
the whole thing took like 2 minutes.... They were not really looking for drugs tho... (bomb search dogs...)
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: kittenfluff on April 23, 2013, 10:55 am

good advice!
I just got searched by the coppers on a train. (happens a lot)
i did not make any eye contact because my pupils are huge! but no problems...
fully cooperating is just as important i guess... I actually asked them if they want me to empty my pockets....
the whole thing took like 2 minutes.... They were not really looking for drugs tho... (bomb search dogs...)

Haha - lucky! I got stopped & searched due to dogs the other day - definitely drug dogs..... I was just about to put a load of other stuff, but I realized it might incriminate me, so I'll just say it wasn't looking in his eye that got him to search me, it was my cheeky demeanor; he asked why I thought I was stopped, so I said it was cause I had crazy colored hair! He thought I was being cheeky and after they searched me (I wasn't carrying) made up some bullshit about painkillers in my handbag, but shit - every person also being pulled over and searched was wearing a hoodie, had skate sneakers, had crazy hair etc. - you trying to tell me no old white guys in suits had any painkillers on them?! And FFS - peeps in suits are some of the biggest drug users on the planet, they love their coke! Dogs are just an excuse to search 'suspicious' people, so now when I carry I look as respectable as I can - dress conservative and wear a cross!
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Razorspyne on April 23, 2013, 02:56 pm
good advice!
I just got searched by the coppers on a train. (happens a lot)
i did not make any eye contact because my pupils are huge! but no problems...
fully cooperating is just as important i guess... I actually asked them if they want me to empty my pockets....
the whole thing took like 2 minutes.... They were not really looking for drugs tho... (bomb search dogs...)
God they wonder why they don't get a lot of public support except from the cross-stitching grandmothers. This happens a lot to young people as police target those that are not in a position to stand up to them and have a conversation on an equal footing. Sorry they ruined your day (admit it, the air was less fresh when they were around?). Do you usually carry around bombs in your back pocket on the train dude? ::) Bomb search dogs... serious. Cooperate, absolutely, but don't act submissive, that would have made the situation worse I think.

I'm sorry that there actually has to be a science with dealing with these pricks. Anyway, good to know you came out of it without any nonsense on their part beyond searching you in the firsts place. You can tell the weaker personalities.... they're the ones who need to get high ordering people around.

Anyway. Like above, virtus stat in medio ("virtue lies in the middle"). Observe them discretely but if they engage me in conversation, I always give them my full attention. It ensures the younger ones trying to prove they're tough don't get any funny ideas.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 23, 2013, 08:45 pm

good advice!
I just got searched by the coppers on a train. (happens a lot)
i did not make any eye contact because my pupils are huge! but no problems...
fully cooperating is just as important i guess... I actually asked them if they want me to empty my pockets....
the whole thing took like 2 minutes.... They were not really looking for drugs tho... (bomb search dogs...)

Haha - lucky! I got stopped & searched due to dogs the other day - definitely drug dogs..... I was just about to put a load of other stuff, but I realized it might incriminate me, so I'll just say it wasn't looking in his eye that got him to search me, it was my cheeky demeanor; he asked why I thought I was stopped, so I said it was cause I had crazy colored hair! He thought I was being cheeky and after they searched me (I wasn't carrying) made up some bullshit about painkillers in my handbag, but shit - every person also being pulled over and searched was wearing a hoodie, had skate sneakers, had crazy hair etc. - you trying to tell me no old white guys in suits had any painkillers on them?! And FFS - peeps in suits are some of the biggest drug users on the planet, they love their coke! Dogs are just an excuse to search 'suspicious' people, so now when I carry I look as respectable as I can - dress conservative and wear a cross!
I have allot of friends on Wall Street and nowadays no one does coke. Everyone's doing meth. It's insane that the most hardcore druggies are also the people holding up the economy. I never get searched as I wear a suit. My main girl wears full emo/skater garb. When people see us together they don't know what to think.

Chaos
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: pine on April 23, 2013, 10:19 pm
Pine is sad and bemused that nobody got the miniature giant space hamster reference.

You guys!!! :o
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: SOUTHPAW on April 24, 2013, 08:53 pm
Pine is sad and bemused that nobody got the miniature giant space hamster reference.

You guys!!! :o

Sorry Pine I can't stop staring at your eyes...I do like giant hamsters though, give a ring...lol
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: slysamuel0109 on April 27, 2013, 01:49 am
Bad idea. You stare into a cops eyes your are asking for confrontation. He is a police officer so he will win that pissing contest.

Chaos

Eye contact with anyone shows maturity and awareness. Always a plus!
Staring can be weird at times but necessary at others. (Hot chicks, tripping, catching someone in a lie, etc.)
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: babyshiva999 on May 01, 2013, 09:29 pm
I use eye contact when I want to dominate someones mind. This has been a fact for me. When I use eye contact on a male it's like I'm fighting him mentally.

This is an archtypeal trait of a psychopath. They see everything as a competition, a game they have to win - and others are their competitors. Mainstream psychiatry has known for  a fact that around 3-4 % of the population are psychopaths. This is a mainstream scientific fact. Don't trust my words - do your own research. The thing is that the vast majority of people think of psychopath as being the maniacal murderers like Ted Bundy or Charles Manson. This is a grave mistake - most of the psychopaths are well adjusted and blend in perfectly, almost too perfectly  with the rest of the population. Incidentally most of them end up in the positions of power (the more intelligent ones) such as politics,  banking, army or any other position where they can dominate others without having to be explicitly held accountable for it.

I am not saying that you are a psychopath Chaos. I do not have enough evidence to prove this. And I am not meaning to be insulting in anyway. I have used your quote to get down to the main idea that I wanted to channel and hear other people's opinions, thoughts, and comments.

Without further complicating this matter - I use eye contact frequently and especially in certain situation when I want to show the respect to the other person, but there are main variations on the theme here so I will stop and ask my question:

Have you ever experienced people intensively looking you in the eyes, not strangers necessarily, in most instances it would be people familiar with you one why or the other; only to feel emotionally drained afterwards, as if you're energy and life force has been somehow sucked out of you?

This is what psychopaths do - in essence they are like vampires, feeding off the peoples positive energy and spreading the negative. They rarely blink when you look them in the eye - normal humans blink on average 5-10 times a minute. The highly intelligent psychopaths can even imitate this, blink intentionally if they suspect that you might be on to something.

There are quite a few books on this matter with vast amount of scientific evidence, so far I have read two excellent books written by trained psychiatrist specializing in psychopathy:

"Without Empathy" and "Psychopath Next Door"

The funny thing is that I went all my adult life thinking that evil doesn't exist - apparently it does and it is pure and genuine - and one in 25 people is the Devil's incarnate if you will, because psychopathy is not a psychological condition - it is a biological trait and there is no treatment or cure for it.  Something to think about - "The greatest  trick devil ever pulled was convincing us he didn't exist"....

Peace,


Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: valakki on May 11, 2013, 09:53 pm
good advice!
I just got searched by the coppers on a train. (happens a lot)
i did not make any eye contact because my pupils are huge! but no problems...
fully cooperating is just as important i guess... I actually asked them if they want me to empty my pockets....
the whole thing took like 2 minutes.... They were not really looking for drugs tho... (bomb search dogs...)
God they wonder why they don't get a lot of public support except from the cross-stitching grandmothers. This happens a lot to young people as police target those that are not in a position to stand up to them and have a conversation on an equal footing. Sorry they ruined your day (admit it, the air was less fresh when they were around?). Do you usually carry around bombs in your back pocket on the train dude? ::) Bomb search dogs... serious. Cooperate, absolutely, but don't act submissive, that would have made the situation worse I think.

I'm sorry that there actually has to be a science with dealing with these pricks. Anyway, good to know you came out of it without any nonsense on their part beyond searching you in the firsts place. You can tell the weaker personalities.... they're the ones who need to get high ordering people around.

Anyway. Like above, virtus stat in medio ("virtue lies in the middle"). Observe them discretely but if they engage me in conversation, I always give them my full attention. It ensures the younger ones trying to prove they're tough don't get any funny ideas.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

I can actually handle the police quite well. Even when i carry.
Im not into bombs dude. its the suitcase bomber muslim fuckers. (no offense if you are one)
But everyone is suspicious.
I dont look sketchy anymore tho. got my act together! but those MR CUSTOMS OFFICER-s really love me!
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: jundullahi on May 11, 2013, 10:41 pm
Looking somebody in the eyes you can earn your self a beating on the street.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Razorspyne on May 12, 2013, 12:14 am
good advice!
I just got searched by the coppers on a train. (happens a lot)
i did not make any eye contact because my pupils are huge! but no problems...
fully cooperating is just as important i guess... I actually asked them if they want me to empty my pockets....
the whole thing took like 2 minutes.... They were not really looking for drugs tho... (bomb search dogs...)
God they wonder why they don't get a lot of public support except from the cross-stitching grandmothers. This happens a lot to young people as police target those that are not in a position to stand up to them and have a conversation on an equal footing. Sorry they ruined your day (admit it, the air was less fresh when they were around?). Do you usually carry around bombs in your back pocket on the train dude? ::) Bomb search dogs... serious. Cooperate, absolutely, but don't act submissive, that would have made the situation worse I think.

I'm sorry that there actually has to be a science with dealing with these pricks. Anyway, good to know you came out of it without any nonsense on their part beyond searching you in the firsts place. You can tell the weaker personalities.... they're the ones who need to get high ordering people around.

Anyway. Like above, virtus stat in medio ("virtue lies in the middle"). Observe them discretely but if they engage me in conversation, I always give them my full attention. It ensures the younger ones trying to prove they're tough don't get any funny ideas.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.

I can actually handle the police quite well. Even when i carry.
Im not into bombs dude. its the suitcase bomber muslim fuckers. (no offense if you are one)
But everyone is suspicious.
I dont look sketchy anymore tho. got my act together! but those MR CUSTOMS OFFICER-s really love me!

Lol, I'm not into bombs either, I was half joking. :)

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: jundullahi on May 12, 2013, 12:17 am
Razorspyne

No taken. And most of us dont care briefcases with bomb in them. Only thought that feel that the have been wronged
and with good reason.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: Afflicted_Aggressor on May 12, 2013, 12:21 pm
Bombs in briefcases lol
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: jundullahi on May 13, 2013, 12:32 am
The Sovjet Unie is rumored to have had 4 suitcase nukes. And 2 of them are missing.
Title: Re: Eyecontact
Post by: SealTeam6 on May 22, 2013, 01:04 pm
The Sovjet Unie is rumored to have had 4 suitcase nukes. And 2 of them are missing.



Who started this rumor?