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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: goblin on April 13, 2013, 10:26 pm

Title: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: goblin on April 13, 2013, 10:26 pm
FYI, the Keiser report will do a show (I don't know if it's going to be in its entirety or not) on Bitcoin this coming Tuesday. In the US it's shown on RT America (rt.com) and is repeated several times during the day.

Should be interesting at least.
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: EastCoastCollective on April 13, 2013, 10:29 pm
CNN ran a story about the shitcoin on friday.
ECC
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: oneiroi on April 13, 2013, 11:24 pm
Anyone willing to do TV-rip, for European part of the community?
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: PlutoPete on April 13, 2013, 11:31 pm
The Keiser report has been doing stories on bitcoin quite a bit recently, you can find them all on youtube :)
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=keiser+report+bitcoin&oq=keiser+report+bitcoin&gs_l=youtube.12..0.9208.12412.0.15143.8.3.0.5.5.0.160.376.1j2.3.0...0.0...1ac.1.y2XT_bz6-GU
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: oneiroi on April 13, 2013, 11:35 pm
Thanx mate.

+KARMA for you!
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: pine on April 14, 2013, 01:08 am
Anyone willing to do TV-rip, for European part of the community?

Did you just ask for a torrent download? Are you serious?
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: oneiroi on April 14, 2013, 09:07 am
Anyone willing to do TV-rip, for European part of the community?

Did you just ask for a torrent download? Are you serious?

Could you please elaborate? I am new in cryptography.
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: canuckboy on April 14, 2013, 11:24 am
What is wrong with torrents?  Especially legal ones about the news?
I think TOR protects your IP if I'm not mistaken.  If not, just use a regular computer to watch this regular news clip about investing in bit coins.   I think he is serious.
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: boosties on April 14, 2013, 04:41 pm
saw a whole segment on BBC last week or so. they even showed
the SR welcome page and touched on the subject.
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: pine on April 14, 2013, 06:31 pm
Quote from:  link=topic=147557.msg1011653#msg1011653 date=1365895462
Anyone willing to do TV-rip, for European part of the community?

Did you just ask for a torrent download? Are you serious?

Could you please elaborate? I am new in cryptography.

No problem. The first problem is that most people probably wouldn't know how to route BitTorrent traffic via Tor correctly, they'd just assume that all their traffic is anonymized because they're running the TBB. I'm not calling you an newb, but recently we've noticed that some people on here are quite naive about how the Internet works at the most basic level e.g. not knowing what an IP address is, and thinking that the TBB is only for hidden services.

But assuming you're more sophisticated than that, then there is an even bigger problem.

If you use BitTorrent with Tor you'll send your real IP address out into the network. And that's not even the end of it, there's an entire family of exploits that depend on naive Tor users using BitTorrent.

Read these:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/04/not-anonymous-attack-reveals-bittorrent-users-on-tor-network/

https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea

Key quote:

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The attack is actually worse than that: apparently in some cases uTorrent, BitSpirit, and libTorrent simply write your IP address directly into the information they send to the tracker and/or to other peers. Tor is doing its job: Tor is _anonymously_ sending your IP address to the tracker or peer. Nobody knows where you're sending your IP address from. But that probably isn't what you wanted your Bittorrent client to send.                                   -- Tor Development Team

There is no real incentive for the Tor developers to help people using the Tor network for BitTorrent traffic either. After all, it puts a lot of pressure on the network right now, and that's when most experienced users of Tor already know it's a bad idea, what would it be like when everybody uses it for BitTorrent traffic! Ten times slower, that's what. So it's best to keep file sharing separate from Tor.

--

If you really want to download torrents via Tor without being deanonymized, there is a proper way to go about it.

Find a good seedbox using the Tor browser and then pay them in Bitcoins to use the seedbox. Then download the torrent to the seedbox, and then FTP the completed download through Tor. It will be slow and expensive but it shall work and also be anonymous.

In practice, as the Ars Technica article suggests, there are better ways than insisting on using Tor.

What is wrong with torrents?  Especially legal ones about the news?
I think TOR protects your IP if I'm not mistaken.  If not, just use a regular computer to watch this regular news clip about investing in bit coins.   I think he is serious.

You are mistaken on both counts.

What is wrong with torrents is what I've described to oneiroi, and what's wrong with using a regular computer to watch the news clip is that you've suggested you want to watch that clip on an anonymous illegal forum. In other words, depending on your threat model, LE agents may submit requests to Google in order to conduct traffic analysis.

Example: Let us say you recommend to watch a youtube clip on this forum. People go to watch it on filternet. Fine. Nothing illegal in watching a youtube video. There's tens of thousands of other viewers, so you have some anonymity protection.

But let us say you recommend this practice, once, twice, three times.

The set of people who watch all three clips within a specific time period is very low due to the fundamental principal of counting, a detective best weapon. In fact it's probably the set of SR users you recommended watching the videos to.

Seemingly innocent data, when combined with other data can be incriminating. Yes, you do need to be this paranoid on here. There's a list of LE agencies as long as your arm who would love to intercept SR users, and if they intercept you then they shall make you look like the most "gangsta leet haxxor" that ever did exist and you'll be made an example of.
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: oneiroi on April 14, 2013, 10:54 pm
Thank you very much for your unbelievably clear explanation.

I am a straight person: would you consider to marry me or at least give me just one of your needles of wisdom to prepare a potion of holy-cryptography, I would then rule the World accordingly your light of wisdom?
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: fingertothefbi on April 14, 2013, 11:05 pm
Silkroad gets the bad press even though hackk bb and BMR is were the worse stuff is ie cc's, bank accounts, and guns not that i'm against those thing just saying all we have is some drugs :)..........alright and a couple fake ids

but fox news is the king of misinformation so im not surprised
Title: Re: Bitcoin to be featured on TV next week
Post by: BloodThinner on April 15, 2013, 05:04 am
To be honest who really gives a flyin fuck.  I hope they make a billboard about it, and put it in the middle of the world.