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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: k5053 on September 21, 2012, 10:30 pm

Title: tor mail
Post by: k5053 on September 21, 2012, 10:30 pm
hey gentle geeks.. a question for u...

if i have an account on tor mail.. am i forced to write to another one (i mean.. another tor mail address?) to secure our identities or i can communicate with other non tor addresses?

the question seems quite stupid.. but i want to be sure!

thank u
Title: Re: tor mail
Post by: k5053 on September 21, 2012, 10:31 pm
ah.. sorry 4 the strange english... but i'm quite stoned and confused  ??? ;)
Title: Re: tor mail
Post by: blowdrobro on September 21, 2012, 10:44 pm
You're secure on your end, from what I understand.
Title: Re: tor mail
Post by: k5053 on September 21, 2012, 10:51 pm
thanks :) other 3 similar opinions and I'm (quite) sure.. :)
Title: Re: tor mail
Post by: BigEasy on September 21, 2012, 11:09 pm
if i have an account on tor mail.. am i forced to write to another one (i mean.. another tor mail address?) to secure our identities or i can communicate with other non tor addresses?

Your identity is as _safe_as you keep it. For instance who knows if tormail is a honeypot or not, in order to be secure you should be using pgp encrypted messages when your using tomail. That way there is no way "they" know who is using the account, yes "they" may have the email address you are communicating with but that is it.

And as for th other party you are writing to, all depends on how secure they are. Did they signup for there email account anonymously? are they using pgp?
Title: Re: tor mail
Post by: k5053 on September 21, 2012, 11:24 pm
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Did they signup for there email account anonymously? are they using pgp?
i think that to register a tor mail account you MUST use tor.. and i believe that in the registration they don't ask you real names etc.. (obviously)....
i know that pgp coul be a (pretty good) solution but people are quite lazy about using it...

mhm.. if tor mail is a honeypot (or they force it in some way)  can they know our real IP's? or just check our communications?? i know that tor mail isn't strictly connected with tor project.. so we can't trust on it as on tor?

  :-*
Title: Re: tor mail
Post by: pine on September 22, 2012, 04:07 am
hey gentle geeks.. a question for u...

if i have an account on tor mail.. am i forced to write to another one (i mean.. another tor mail address?) to secure our identities or i can communicate with other non tor addresses?

the question seems quite stupid.. but i want to be sure!

thank u

A Tormail account is exactly like a normal webmail account like Hotmail, Gmail or Yahoo. You can send or receive email from within Tormail to/from other Tormail users, and you can also do the same to normal clearnet email addresses.

-- Some general Tormail advice --

However, there is an issue like has already been mentioned. You shouldn't trust the Tormail operators as a matter of principal. Could be they are nice guys, but who really can know.

You should use PGP when possible, and also sometimes you should setup Tormail accounts for a single use (to prevent network analysis).

Use the non javascript version of Tormail, turn off Javascript and use Squirrel Mail version.

To switch between Tormail accounts, you should logout, switch your Tor identity and clear the Tormail cookie from your browser. Then wait a few minutes before logging in. This prevents association of Tormail account ownership, or at the least it prevents it being used as circumstantial evidence in a court of law.

--

Thought:

It would be nice if an anonymous remailer system existed that wasn't dependent on a 3rd party. e.g. obfuscating who you are sending email to, so Tormail couldn't possibly do network analysis. You can do this on clearnet but it's a bit of a pain, especially since it's not your email you're trying to obfuscate. Any clever solutions out there? Edit: I just remembered there is one that Guru mentioned, but I mean something much simpler to setup as a single use situation, ideally one click setup.

Title: Re: tor mail
Post by: AnOn.edu on September 22, 2012, 06:28 am
What's that joke about tormail? If you want to stay safe it's fine for westerner's drugs and guns but don't mention anything subversive about Russian politics?