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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: timmosley on August 14, 2012, 10:52 pm
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Hello everyone at SR,
I have a question or two for those with experience taking Modafinil. While I've tried a couple of the usual generics, I'd never had "Modvigil" until today. I ordered 200mg tablets of "Modalert" but instead received 200mg "Modvigil." An hour and a half after taking one 200mg Modivgil, it seems to be less effective than other brands at the same dosage. It does feel like the Provigil/Modiodal I've taken in the past, only weaker. The Nuvigil generic I recently ordered works great however.
In my past experiences Provigil and effective generics all possessed an unmistakable scent and flavor. I only slightly detect a similar scent and none of the flavor in Modvigil. Additionally, the strong odor normally present in urine after a Modafinil dosage is absent. This would not be a problem if it worked, the flavor and pungent urine are both very undesirable. I can't find much information on Modvigil and it isn't listed on the manufacturer's website. Can anyone comment on the efficacy of Modvigil? My blister pack reads "B. No 232-14 MFG.JUN.2012."
Besides the swapped brand and efficacy issues, the packaging was poor and appears to have been opened/resealed during transit. The seller claims stealthy packing, but besides being lumpy and suspicious in appearance, it felt like a package of pill strips and even had "Poonam Medical Stores...India" as the return address. Should I complain to the seller, or just write it off as a hazard of buying anonymously and order from someone else next time?
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I come to the forumsw today to ask the same questions.
my guess judging by what you described packaging was it from pillpopperz?
lpackage ooked dodgy as fuck, im surprised it got through customs. everything you described about the package was the same for me. I really just dont understand how it got thru customs and i often think about it. I had to sign for it and the postal guy seemed to give me a funny look but im just making an assumption. i walked out of the post office feeling like i have to stop making orders from silk road for a while.
definatley not taking the risk and buying any benzos if its coming thru li9ke that.
same deal with the modvigil - its not what i thought it would be. i took 400mg (2 pills) and i dont feel much. ive never taken any other brands and feel like this is either overhyped media 'limitless' shit or dodge pills. Im going to consider buying another brand from another vendor to test it out properly.
not blaming the vendor for the quality of the pills because they dont make them but i'd like to know if anybody has compared pillpopperz modvigil with other brands and can say whether pillpopperz sourced modvigil is just a cheap bunk knock off?
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Hey I'm not sure but I think I can help.
I've found there is the 150mg armodafinil pills, which is just the "good" enantiomer (like meth has two isomers, one gets you high, the other is nasal decongestant). Called Nuvigil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armodafinil
Then there's the 200mg modafanil, These are called Provigil. I think these are actually weaker because they contain a mix of both isomers - so you're really only getting 100mg of the good stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil
I think the 200mg are generic now and the 150mg armodafanil is still under copyright.
I much prefer the 150mg armodafanil.
Does that shed any light?
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+1 karma om .. great post!
Nasal decongestant you say? Sounds like a great preload before a cocaine binge!
I've tried modalert and modvigil and I find them quite similar, but would agree the modalert feels stronger.. at least to me. Nuvigil sounds great, I'll check it out.
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Thanks man ... posting to opiate threads naturally attracts a lot of negative karma.... something about opiate users :)
The active stereo isomer of meth (um, you know, "meth") is also a nasal decongestant... though that's probably getting a little dangerous if you're about to go on a coke binge :)
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the day i wrote the last post i ended up having 3 pills (600mg) around 11am and was awake till 8am at which time i had a 2mg xanax to sleep. that whole day i felt pretty depressed and agitated and that was the day after LSD
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the day i wrote the last post i ended up having 3 pills (600mg) around 11am and was awake till 8am at which time i had a 2mg xanax to sleep. that whole day i felt pretty depressed and agitated and that was the day after LSD
I'm not surprised, you're taking 6x times more than what is recommended for most people! Not that you can OD on moda, but you should dial it back to 100mg in future.
In my experience, very small amounts of modafinil have an effect, but doubling up or increasing the dosage beyond what is necessarily for you can result in the symptoms you describe.
My hypothesis is that modafinil actually works by lowering your level of impulsiveness, hence its reputation as a productivity drug. You are less distracted from what needs doing, that's why it's a nootropic, it improves performance. Less lolcats on the internet for you.
However, this is not always a good idea. If you are a writer for example, and your requirement is to be creative, you shouldn't really take moda. You'll produce work, but it won't be quite as good as if you did it without it, some ideas won't occur to you. However it'll probably also take longer to write it, so that's the trade off.
This explanation for modafinil also hints at why you may have experienced low mood. It is because less impulsive people tend to be more dour, less spontaneous aka boring, less risk taking.
Contrawise, people who are overworked or stressed may experience an elevation in mood when using modafinil because less impulsiveness is exactly what they needed to complete their task.
I would take moda to be productive, but the racetams to be creative depending on the circumstances. I also strongly recommend a short period of exercise after you take modafinil e.g. burn a few hundred calories off somehow. I believe this in combination with modafinil has a powerful synergistic effect, resulting in ten fold level of productivity in comparison to normal.
If however your need is to be creative, you need to do the opposite, by meditating and taking racetams. Take a dose of piracetam, then listen to a hypnosis CD/mp3 while resting in a comfortable position. Relax, chill for 30 mins - hour, and then get to work. I think you'll be surprised at the effects!
For Science!