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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: Caparino on July 23, 2012, 10:20 am
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My phone's tapped I already know that much but how much fuckery am I in, really?
Am I even safe on Tor?
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why don't you ask him/her?
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i meant face to face. invite him/her over for dinner or something and slip it into the conversation
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why don't you ask him/her?
He's one of those bullshitter's. He'll make up stories on the spot just to gain advantage in a social situation or to mirror your habits/interests, so I don't really know what to believe. We met up today... He made me turn off my phone, leave it in the car, took me for a walk, and told me exactly word for word, conversations I'd had on the phone. Apparently his security clearance came under scrutiny by the higher ups because I'M associating with a group classified as "Domestic Terrorists" by the government. I've been busy cleaning up the whole day...
i meant face to face. invite him/her over for dinner or something and slip it into the conversation
Dickhead's refusing to tell me anymore. If I keep it up, he's telling my family... If we didn't have the same blood coursing through our veins I'd probably have beaten him near death for making that threat
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he sounds like a proper cock mate - family usually comes first unless you're dealing with those sorts of cunts. i have an uncle that's robbing the government blind claiming for shit he doesn't need and i don't even like the cunt but he's family you know, so what can you do? i ain't grassing him up, just hoping he gets his benefits looked into.
look into tor bridges, then your ISP can't even see you're using tor. i think it was vlad1mir did a thread on it. they can't break tor encryption, but your ISP might tell them you are going through tor on a regular basis. get a throwaway mobile for any shady conversations you need to have as well, and use it away from your home in preferably a built up area, like the high street of a town
stay safe mate. and fucking punch your dick of a cousin in the face. he'll like that ;)
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domestic terrorists? is this the tor thing do you reckon or do you have a nuclear arsenal in your garden shed?
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been watching Breaking Bad StExo? ;) ::)
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Ugh that encryption sounds like a safe bet for now, thanks Duke!
domestic terrorists? is this the tor thing do you reckon or do you have a nuclear arsenal in your garden shed?
Let's just say I achieve a good amount of government information about events unfolding after the next U.S. election and dabble here and there as a hobby because of it
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domestic terrorists? is this the tor thing do you reckon or do you have a nuclear arsenal in your garden shed?
Let's just say I achieve a good amount of government information about events unfolding after the next U.S. election and dabble here and there as a hobby because of it
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care to elaborate? dont we have enough horrible shit going on in this world? why would u even want to be involved with domestic terrorists?
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My phone's tapped I already know that much but how much fuckery am I in, really?
Am I even safe on Tor?
Your phone might indeed be tapped, but not necessarily by the DoD unless your cousin is extremely high profile. In which case he's the world's biggest dumbass since if they're tracking you, they are 100% definitely
also monitoring him, which means his superiors would know he's telling this information.
It is far more likely your relation simply knows how to put spyware onto your phone to turn it into a remote microphone. This software is readily available and easy to use, anybody can do that, just as anybody can
acquire keyloggers for computers.
tldr; Your cousin is a jack-ass. He's probably just fucking with you for shits and giggles and to inflate his sense of self-importance.
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My phone's tapped I already know that much but how much fuckery am I in, really?
Am I even safe on Tor?
Your phone might indeed be tapped, but not necessarily by the DoD unless your cousin is extremely high profile. In which case he's the world's biggest dumbass since if they're tracking you, they are 100% definitely
also monitoring him, which means his superiors would know he's telling this information.
It is far more likely your relation simply knows how to put spyware onto your phone to turn it into a remote microphone. This software is readily available and easy to use, anybody can do that, just as anybody can
acquire keyloggers for computers.
tldr; Your cousin is a jack-ass. He's probably just fucking with you for shits and giggles and to inflate his sense of self-importance.
Good one pine could not of said it better
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How does one do that if they don't even have access to my phone?
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How would you know the phone is tapped? And how, in that case, would you know your cousin has anything to do with it? You're leaving out an awful lot.
How close are you to your cousin, and does he know what you do?
Darkwave
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I agree a lot was left out. And it could be Easy to leave the room for a sec and have no idea. If its a smart phone wipe it and start over and also take the back off and see if anything there. If he didn't touch your phone he could home put something in your house or car to.
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How does one do that if they don't even have access to my phone?
Are we talking about a landline or a cell phone here?
It's ridiculously easy to compromise any cell phone nowadays, there's thousands of ways to do it, he's just messing with you.
If it's your landline then there's ways to do that too, especially in the job he's in. Technically every landline in the western world is now tapped, and software automatically picks up keywords and starts recording. If he has clearance he'd be able to listen to the conversations easily. When I used to write software for a mobile network provider we used to do this for shits and giggles all the time.
We used to do other stuff like ring people up that we didn't like and play back the phone conversation they just had with someone else to them just to freak them out.
Even if you were on a list for domestic terrorists, it's not a big deal, not unless you are actually a terrorist.
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I'm leaving out most details by choice.
How close are you to your cousin, and does he know what you do?
Darkwave
We don't speak very often, every couple of months at family dinners
And nope, I don't have a smart phone.
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How does one do that if they don't even have access to my phone?
Are we talking about a landline or a cell phone here?
It's ridiculously easy to compromise any cell phone nowadays, there's thousands of ways to do it, he's just messing with you.
If it's your landline then there's ways to do that too, especially in the job he's in. Technically every landline in the western world is now tapped, and software automatically picks up keywords and starts recording. If he has clearance he'd be able to listen to the conversations easily. When I used to write software for a mobile network provider we used to do this for shits and giggles all the time.
We used to do other stuff like ring people up that we didn't like and play back the phone conversation they just had with someone else to them just to freak them out.
Even if you were on a list for domestic terrorists, it's not a big deal, not unless you are actually a terrorist.
Okay maybe he's just fucking with me, Thank God!
/SIGH OF RELIEF
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What if this was a prank set up by your cousin, so that he could be all cocky/agent-like in your face? I wouldn`t know whether to laugh or feel bad for you. :-\ If this what the Department of Defense really does? I really doubt its something that even concerns them to be honest.
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I don't know if you'd be getting tracked because of him, but more because of your revolutionary acts that have classified you as a domestic "terrorist". Who knows, they might want to find any dirt on you and arrest you for that (possession) so that you aren't doing anything else. There's a case of Occupiers getting harassed for the stupidest things because they are being watched. I made a lot of assumptions in this post so I don't really know what you did.
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Occupiers got infiltrated :-\ Couldn't chill with them too long, some pretty cool people though
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I'm thinking TheAbsurd is on the right track here.... so what if Caparino it is you that's the problem and it's you that got your cousin in trouble? not the other way around.
Are you actually associating with domestic terrorists in any way???
If so then they're not monitoring you because your cousin works for the DOD, they're monitoring you because you're on a terrorist watch-list.
Then your cousin, who isn't doing anything wrong, tries to get his clearance renewed so he can keep his job and he gets dragged into a room and grilled for hours by the special investigations folks on what association he has with you or the "terrorists" you're dealing with.
If that's what's going on your cuz did you favor. He also did something stupid and risked that clearance by talking to you. A TS clearance is worth a ton of money for your career and If I (or most anyone else) were in his shoes I wouldn't have told you a damn thing, I'd have just cut contact with you, and they coulda dragged you off to Guantanamo bay and it'd be alright as long as that big paycheck kept coming.
If you're on a terrorist watch list then YOU are going to draw unwanted attention to anyone you associate with.
You'll also draw unwanted attention to any website you visit or forum you post on.
if they really really believe you're a terrorist even encryption won't help you. Most any government in the world can decrypt your data very very quickly with no more than you and a rubber hose (I hear the Chinese & Russians especially are very very good at that).
and oscarzululondon, it's not just every landline in the western world that's monitored by some government (US or other), it's more likely almost every cell / landline / internet connection on planet earth has somebody monitoring it. But if the cousin is under the umbrella of the DoD (as in he's a DOD employee) then he cannot directly access ANY of that data and I doubt anyone from another compartment would give it to him intentionally. But if he was getting grilled on it then he probably woulda figured out what the investigators knew pretty quick.
In the US things are highly compartmentalized. You may have a clearance to do missile launch systems, but you won't be cleared to warhead design. You may do DoD weapons acquisitions, or troop deployment strategies, or DoD logistics, or whatever but if you're a DoD branch you don't get access to classified data from other branches or departments.
Bob
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It is far more likely your relation simply knows how to put spyware onto your phone to turn it into a remote microphone.
This doesnt involve spyware, they can use the phone companies capabilities to call your phone but not have it ring. Of course if you use a smartphone chances are you are being tracked by a dozen companies at any given time.