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Title: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: BuprenorFiend on July 19, 2012, 07:58 am
I've noticed that a lot of vendors like to refer to themselves as if they were a multi-person operation. I realize that a lot of vendors on here probably *are* multi-person operations, but I'm absolutely certain that some of the vendors that I've dealt with that do this are just single individuals working by themselves start to finish. Is there a valid security reason behind this practice, or are they just trying to sound more professional?
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: pine on July 19, 2012, 08:40 am
We believe it to be the latter. Often it's helpful to think in the 3rd person to compose a business plan or to think more logically about stuff.

But pine thinks pine just does it to annoy everybody :)

Pine Borg
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Knomo on July 19, 2012, 09:28 am
I've noticed that a lot of vendors like to refer to themselves as if they were a multi-person operation. I realize that a lot of vendors on here probably *are* multi-person operations, but I'm absolutely certain that some of the vendors that I've dealt with that do this are just single individuals working by themselves start to finish. Is there a valid security reason behind this practice, or are they just trying to sound more professional?

I always imagine them sitting with 2-3 people on a chair typing 1 word each.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: ballervision on July 19, 2012, 09:32 am
Both answers are correct!
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: BuprenorFiend on July 19, 2012, 09:42 am
I have to say, it annoys the piss out of me when I see someone saying it. It's like "Our team has received your order for 1 ounce of Sour Diesel. It has already been through our Order Fulfillment department. It was processed by our Packaging department yesterday, but it must be reviewed and approved by our Quality Assurance department before it can be sent to our Shipping department." Then when you receive it, it's wrapped in a Walmart grocery bag, and there's a piece of paper duct taped and stapled to it that says "Sour D" written in chicken scratch with a Sharpie. If an ounce of weed has to spend more than 1 day with a vendor before being shipped out, that shit better look like it was processed by the cartels themselves.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Caparino on July 19, 2012, 09:48 am
I have to say, it annoys the piss out of me when I see someone saying it. It's like "Our team has received your order for 1 ounce of Sour Diesel. It has already been through our Order Fulfillment department. It was processed by our Packaging department yesterday, but it must be reviewed and approved by our Quality Assurance department before it can be sent to our Shipping department." Then when you receive it, it's wrapped in a Walmart grocery bag, and there's a piece of paper duct taped and stapled to it that says "Sour D" written in chicken scratch with a Sharpie. If an ounce of weed has to spend more than 1 day with a vendor before being shipped out, that shit better look like it was processed by the cartels themselves.

...Bro if it isn't vac-sealed you gotta find a new vendor  :-\
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: ballervision on July 19, 2012, 09:49 am
Who the shit is sending in a walmart grocery bag? That's not kosher.


It wasn't vacuum or heat sealed?


Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Knomo on July 19, 2012, 10:06 am
I have to say, it annoys the piss out of me when I see someone saying it. It's like "Our team has received your order for 1 ounce of Sour Diesel. It has already been through our Order Fulfillment department. It was processed by our Packaging department yesterday, but it must be reviewed and approved by our Quality Assurance department before it can be sent to our Shipping department." Then when you receive it, it's wrapped in a Walmart grocery bag, and there's a piece of paper duct taped and stapled to it that says "Sour D" written in chicken scratch with a Sharpie. If an ounce of weed has to spend more than 1 day with a vendor before being shipped out, that shit better look like it was processed by the cartels themselves.

Lol, that is pretty weird indeed.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: chemdog on July 19, 2012, 11:10 am
This is something of a pet peeve of mine, yet it is one I am forced to do, as "I" represent a "we". Excluding the Mrs, there are a number of others directly involved, and a couple more indirectly. As such, I can be speaking for myself or for us as a whole.

But it makes me feel like I have schizophrenia at times.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 19, 2012, 11:38 am
I think even if your a one-man shop, you can refer to your self as we since its a business. I don`t see whats wrong with that.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: f1k4sDfsSfkLs987881 on July 19, 2012, 11:49 am
Even if there is multiple people, there is only one person typing the message, so it should be sent first person or third person (SWIM etc), makes no sense to multi. But hey ho, who cares. plus theres lots of different languages and backgrounds all coming together to speak in English only here, so, bound to be lil hiccups eh?
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Knomo on July 19, 2012, 11:57 am
I think even if your a one-man shop, you can refer to your self as we since its a business. I don`t see whats wrong with that.

Yeah that's true, but if you refer to your 'colleagues' as 'Quality Department' and 'Shipping Department' :P That's kinda... dunno.. weird?
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 19, 2012, 11:59 am
I think even if your a one-man shop, you can refer to your self as we since its a business. I don`t see whats wrong with that.

Yeah that's true, but if you refer to your 'colleagues' as 'Quality Department' and 'Shipping Department' :P That's kinda... dunno.. weird?

Yeah thats definitely a no-no. 
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: f1k4sDfsSfkLs987881 on July 19, 2012, 02:28 pm
brings unnecessary  attention to one self eh?
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Shroomeister on July 19, 2012, 02:43 pm
"We" find it is in "our" best business interest to refer to "us" as "us". Hope that helps. :)

Some of "us" are an "us" and "we" all think that there is something inherently guilty about typing "I".

"We" are sorry, but that is all "our" legal dept said "we" can say on this matter.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: eJ3k1 on July 19, 2012, 03:03 pm
We're talking linguistics here. When talking, depending on the audience, you select a sociolinguistic register.

As a speaker, you choose your way of speaking depending on the situation. I speak English to everybody I know, my mother, my boss, my girlfriend, my young nephews and my friends. It's the same language. However, to each of those persons, I speak in a different way. (And so do you.)

To your boss you speak in a formal way, to young children in a simplified way, and to your friends in an informal way.

In the same way you have a language register you use when you're representing a business. Many times companies refer to themselves as "we". This is accepted professional language. When Silk Road vendors  write their pages, they select the same language register. And that includes the use of "we" when referring to the business. Even if it is a one man operation. You could say that in this context, the word has lost it's aspect of plurality.

Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: thepotroast on July 19, 2012, 03:15 pm
This thread is so win
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 19, 2012, 03:17 pm
We're talking linguistics here. When talking, depending on the audience, you select a sociolinguistic register.

As a speaker, you select a language register depending on the situation. I speak English to everybody I know, my mother, my boss, my girlfriend, my young nephews and my friends. It's the same language. However, to each of those persons, I speak in a different way. (And so do you.)

To your boss you speak in a formal way, to young children in a simplified way, and to your friends in an informal way.

In the same way you have a language register you use when you're representing a business. Many times companies refer to themselves as "we". This is accepted professional language. When Silk Road vendors  write their pages, they select the same language register. And that includes the use of "we" when referring to the business. Even if it is a one man operation. You could say that in this context, the word has lost it's aspect of plurality.

+1

There it is, summed up.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Shroomeister on July 19, 2012, 03:37 pm
We're talking linguistics here. When talking, depending on the audience, you select a sociolinguistic register.

As a speaker, you select a language register depending on the situation. I speak English to everybody I know, my mother, my boss, my girlfriend, my young nephews and my friends. It's the same language. However, to each of those persons, I speak in a different way. (And so do you.)

To your boss you speak in a formal way, to young children in a simplified way, and to your friends in an informal way.

In the same way you have a language register you use when you're representing a business. Many times companies refer to themselves as "we". This is accepted professional language. When Silk Road vendors  write their pages, they select the same language register. And that includes the use of "we" when referring to the business. Even if it is a one man operation. You could say that in this context, the word has lost it's aspect of plurality.

"We" feel that this person understands "us" and hence forth and in accordance with knows "WTF" he is talking about.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: randomOVDB#2 on July 19, 2012, 07:03 pm
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Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: moxycotton on July 19, 2012, 07:18 pm
This is something of a pet peeve of mine, yet it is one I am forced to do, as "I" represent a "we". Excluding the Mrs, there are a number of others directly involved, and a couple more indirectly. As such, I can be speaking for myself or for us as a whole.

But it makes me feel like I have schizophrenia at times.

Sometimes we feel like I have schizophrenia, too. =P
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: awakened350 on July 19, 2012, 07:35 pm
Hey don't go criticizing us. You'll find that schizophrenic vendors are the best vendors of all! The extra voices in our head keeps us company while packing all your orders. Sometimes they even tell us to give you more product to be nice and that makes everyone happy!
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: chemdog on July 19, 2012, 09:40 pm
"We" find it is in "our" best business interest to refer to "us" as "us". Hope that helps. :)

Some of "us" are an "us" and "we" all think that there is something inherently guilty about typing "I".

"We" are sorry, but that is all "our" legal dept said "we" can say on this matter.

I seriously cannot go back to writing we after reading that.

Or is it that we cannot allow I to continue writing as us after that?

..... ???
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Shroomeister on July 19, 2012, 09:46 pm

I seriously cannot go back to writing we after reading that.

Or is it that we cannot allow I to continue writing as us after that?

..... ???

Yes.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: chemdog on July 19, 2012, 10:06 pm
My brain!!!! It's.... MELLLLLTINNNNNG!
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: BuprenorFiend on July 20, 2012, 03:35 am
I was being hypothetical when I mentioned the walmart bag with duct tape. Just stating my point in easy to understand terms, I suppose.

Anyways, I just think it's not the greatest idea to try to sound like a multi-person operation because if your order is any less than perfect, you can't say "Well I'm *WAY* too busy to make sure each and every one of these packages is perfect!", because you're trying to make your buyer think that there are numerous people, all with a specialty, so the whole package should be specialized.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Red Flag on July 20, 2012, 05:18 am
I have to say, it annoys the piss out of me when I see someone saying it. It's like "Our team has received your order for 1 ounce of Sour Diesel. It has already been through our Order Fulfillment department. It was processed by our Packaging department yesterday, but it must be reviewed and approved by our Quality Assurance department before it can be sent to our Shipping department." Then when you receive it, it's wrapped in a Walmart grocery bag, and there's a piece of paper duct taped and stapled to it that says "Sour D" written in chicken scratch with a Sharpie. If an ounce of weed has to spend more than 1 day with a vendor before being shipped out, that shit better look like it was processed by the cartels themselves.

I know the vendor your speaking about and t hat vendor isnt one of my f favorites either, in fact I didnt make a 2nd order.

PS - the dispensaries in California often have professional packaging. I guarantee many dispensaries package weed better than any cartel(I assume your referring to a Mexican drug cartel as they are responsible for more drugs in the US)
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: f1k4sDfsSfkLs987881 on July 20, 2012, 12:42 pm
I have to say, it annoys the piss out of me when I see someone saying it. It's like "Our team has received your order for 1 ounce of Sour Diesel. It has already been through our Order Fulfillment department. It was processed by our Packaging department yesterday, but it must be reviewed and approved by our Quality Assurance department before it can be sent to our Shipping department." Then when you receive it, it's wrapped in a Walmart grocery bag, and there's a piece of paper duct taped and stapled to it that says "Sour D" written in chicken scratch with a Sharpie. If an ounce of weed has to spend more than 1 day with a vendor before being shipped out, that shit better look like it was processed by the cartels themselves.

I know the vendor your speaking about and t hat vendor isnt one of my f favorites either, in fact I didnt make a 2nd order.

PS - the dispensaries in California often have professional packaging. I guarantee many dispensaries package weed better than any cartel(I assume your referring to a Mexican drug cartel as they are responsible for more drugs in the US)

Yeah dispensaries back in Cali at one point were even running a home delivery service!! That was bad ass.. Very discreet amazing fit blonde girl shows up in work uniform lookin amazing to deliver a big fat wet .......... bag of weed ;)

haha
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: mrshah on July 20, 2012, 02:42 pm
I've noticed that a lot of vendors like to refer to themselves as if they were a multi-person operation. I realize that a lot of vendors on here probably *are* multi-person operations, but I'm absolutely certain that some of the vendors that I've dealt with that do this are just single individuals working by themselves start to finish. Is there a valid security reason behind this practice, or are they just trying to sound more professional?

I always imagine them sitting with 2-3 people on a chair typing 1 word each.
That made me lol XD

I use both but i'm a one man band so i don't know why  ???
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: DiscountDank on July 20, 2012, 06:01 pm
who cares, how would anyone know how many people are attached to the source?  trying to call people out like they dont have the right to refer to their op as 'we' is just being a bitch.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: BuprenorFiend on July 21, 2012, 02:10 am
Chill out there tough guy, nobody's calling anybody out. I was just wondering if there was an actual security measure behind it or if people just did it to sound more professional.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: 4tron on July 22, 2012, 04:30 am
In old times, Royalty refered to themselves as "We" etc. Back then it meant "I & My Kingdom"
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: Krazys on July 22, 2012, 06:28 am
Whatever floats your boat kids. I am one that could certainly refer to ourselves as a we. But unless I know my crowd I pretty much allays stick with a very PC view of personal pronouns.

Krazy(s)
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: eustacebagge on July 22, 2012, 12:59 pm
because were all in this together, maaaaaaan
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: goblin on July 22, 2012, 02:58 pm
We believe it to be the latter. Often it's helpful to think in the 3rd person to compose a business plan or to think more logically about stuff.

But pine thinks pine just does it to annoy everybody :)

Pine Borg
Pine is right. So is goblin.

Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: DiscountDank on July 23, 2012, 03:00 am
just messin w you


Chill out there tough guy, nobody's calling anybody out. I was just wondering if there was an actual security measure behind it or if people just did it to sound more professional.
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: BuprenorFiend on July 23, 2012, 04:56 am
just messin w you


Chill out there tough guy, nobody's calling anybody out. I was just wondering if there was an actual security measure behind it or if people just did it to sound more professional.

I am *deeply* hurt by your messings, and nothing could possibly mend my broken soul other than a one-time 15% discount on a single ounce of your already moderately discounted dank. Baaahahahaha :9
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: eJ3k1 on July 24, 2012, 08:37 am
In old times, Royalty refered to themselves as "We" etc. Back then it meant "I & My Kingdom"
Yes. Another theory is that it's a remnant of the Roman Empire.

At some point, the Roman empire split in two, you had the western empire (with Rome as the capital) and the eastern Byzantine empire (with Constantinople as it's capital). At that point, Rome had two emperors. However, they were still sort of working together, so it was common practice to address the emperor with the plural form of you. And they would refer to themselves as "we". Because when you talked to one emperor, you talked to both.

English is kinda weird, in that it only has one form of "you". Many other languages have various. Like Spanish, that has an informal you (tĂș), a formal you (usted), and a you-plural (in Spain itself, they actually have two you-plurals, the formal and the informal version. So they have 4 different words for "you").

When you're talking French, there's also various ways of saying "you". If you talk to one person you say "tu", if you talk to more than one, you say "vous". However, if you are talking to somebody and you want to be really polite, you say "vous", even if it's just one person. What you basically do is you pretend he is the Roman Emperor (at least, that's where the custom originates from).
Title: Re: Vendors referring to themselves as "We", "Us", "Our"?
Post by: fuckthepolice101 on July 24, 2012, 08:47 am
I have to say, it annoys the piss out of me when I see someone saying it. It's like "Our team has received your order for 1 ounce of Sour Diesel. It has already been through our Order Fulfillment department. It was processed by our Packaging department yesterday, but it must be reviewed and approved by our Quality Assurance department before it can be sent to our Shipping department." Then when you receive it, it's wrapped in a Walmart grocery bag, and there's a piece of paper duct taped and stapled to it that says "Sour D" written in chicken scratch with a Sharpie. If an ounce of weed has to spend more than 1 day with a vendor before being shipped out, that shit better look like it was processed by the cartels themselves.

+1 to this

fucking LOL