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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: mavrick4969 on May 17, 2012, 08:21 am
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Hey Guys , I must say this is a lot to take in as a newb ! , i found sr about a year ago and love the idea of it and would love to use it and order stuff, but i must say the things you have to do to order your first purchase sounds like no matter what you do your going to get caught by leo ! or your doing it wrong , there are public keys ? PGP ? Librete ? Linux ? Bitcoin , Bitcoin Wallet , Bitcoin Services , i have to go to the bank and where a ski mask and deposit money ? God Dammmm !!!!!!! I mean seriously i know its for our own protection but my lord it sounds like it would be more easier to grow the bud or fly to Colombia and smuggle the shit in my self ! and with tor telling me not to download and open anything while using tor then what ! how am i supposed to use half the programs that i need to Easily use this dam service ? im soooooo lost with it all ! and i m sure a lot of other people are also ....Please Help !
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What exactly don't you know how to do?
Just put in the a bit of revision and you will be fine mate. Just remember that the rewards are only there to be taken by the ones that go after it
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I Dont Know How To Do Anything , The Only Thing That I Have Done Is Down Load Tor And Use It , I Was Thinking I Have Three Laptops Here In My House That I Dont Use , I Was Thinking Of Buying A Brand New Hard drive And Popping It In , From What It Seems I Should Be Using Linux ? Then Down Load Tor Again ? Then After That Down Load The PGP Program , And After That I HAve No Clue What To do , I Have No Idea How To Buy Bitcoins And I Realy Dont LIke The Idea Of Going To A Bank To Deposit Money , Is There A Place I Can Use A PrePaid Credit Card ?
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OP is not only a comment, but also one huge long title.
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I Dont Know How To Do Anything , The Only Thing That I Have Done Is Down Load Tor And Use It , I Was Thinking I Have Three Laptops Here In My House That I Dont Use , I Was Thinking Of Buying A Brand New Hard drive And Popping It In , From What It Seems I Should Be Using Linux ? Then Down Load Tor Again ? Then After That Down Load The PGP Program , And After That I HAve No Clue What To do , I Have No Idea How To Buy Bitcoins And I Realy Dont LIke The Idea Of Going To A Bank To Deposit Money , Is There A Place I Can Use A PrePaid Credit Card ?
No offense but you'd need to learn how to type properly before I could manage to help you, your posts are a pain to read. :-\
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Troll ? I can't imagine people over 18 using such capitalization.
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No sorry not a troll, but i will comply and say sorry , old habits of typing , once again my sincerest apologies
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Mavrick I'm new to using SR too. The peeps who commented above are right. A little learning and some perseverance will pay off. And obtaining bitcoin is probably the easiest (although somewhat nerve racking) part of the process. I used Bitpiggy and got my Bitcoin within 24hours. Now I'm waiting for the BTC to arrive in my SR wallet....
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so how do you use it ? can you use a prepaid card ?
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You've been here for a year and you know this little?
I put in my first order one week after I found this place. There is so much information on the forums on how to get yourself set up its ridiculous. Get out there and do some reading.
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You've been here for a year and you know this little?
I put in my first order one week after I found this place. There is so much information on the forums on how to get yourself set up its ridiculous. Get out there and do some reading.
I completely agree!
You've got to earn your goodies, otherwise you're not deserving of the treats on sale here. :P
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It's actually a lot easier than it seems
Buy bitcoins.. buy drugs. Pretty much it really
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Yes i understand the whole concept , its like ebay , yes i get it , but im just so freaking scared to fuck up and not do things right , like for example , where do i buy bitcoins with a prepaid credit card ? and where do i get a good e wallet to put it in ? i looked around and the one place that everyone likes seems to suck now , so im stuck , if you guys want to sit her and just troll than just fuck off , im asking for help , not sarcasm , not everyone can understand how to do all things fast , maybe you guys understand how to guide yourselves thru the darknet , but i don't , i bet there are many things that im better at doing than most people on here like taking a whole engine apart and putting it back together , or figuring out chemical properties of many of the drugs that your buying on here , its not that i cant figure it out , its the fact that i like to party , but in nyc the drugs suck here and i have a lot to loose if something happens , i just would like to get it right , every time i read something about moving forward in doing my purchase there's another topic telling me that that method has loop holes and sucks
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Its all here on the forums is what im saying. You have the access because you're already here. There is always going to be new teks and procedures that people come out with, and everyone thinks his or her method for operating anonymously is better than the next guys. Its a matter of preference. You have to chose what preference you want to use and then go do it.
Everything you need can be found with a little thing called the search bar.
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Yes i understand the whole concept , its like ebay , yes i get it , but im just so freaking scared to fuck up and not do things right , like for example , where do i buy bitcoins with a prepaid credit card ? and where do i get a good e wallet to put it in ? i looked around and the one place that everyone likes seems to suck now , so im stuck , if you guys want to sit her and just troll than just fuck off , im asking for help , not sarcasm , not everyone can understand how to do all things fast , maybe you guys understand how to guide yourselves thru the darknet , but i don't , i bet there are many things that im better at doing than most people on here like taking a whole engine apart and putting it back together , or figuring out chemical properties of many of the drugs that your buying on here , its not that i cant figure it out , its the fact that i like to party , but in nyc the drugs suck here and i have a lot to loose if something happens , i just would like to get it right , every time i read something about moving forward in doing my purchase there's another topic telling me that that method has loop holes and sucks
You don't need a prepaid card to acquire bitcoins.
Read this:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15383.msg234943#msg234943
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Yes i understand the whole concept , its like ebay , yes i get it , but im just so freaking scared to fuck up and not do things right , like for example , where do i buy bitcoins with a prepaid credit card ? and where do i get a good e wallet to put it in ? i looked around and the one place that everyone likes seems to suck now , so im stuck , if you guys want to sit her and just troll than just fuck off , im asking for help , not sarcasm , not everyone can understand how to do all things fast , maybe you guys understand how to guide yourselves thru the darknet , but i don't , i bet there are many things that im better at doing than most people on here like taking a whole engine apart and putting it back together , or figuring out chemical properties of many of the drugs that your buying on here , its not that i cant figure it out , its the fact that i like to party , but in nyc the drugs suck here and i have a lot to loose if something happens , i just would like to get it right , every time i read something about moving forward in doing my purchase there's another topic telling me that that method has loop holes and sucks
You don't need a prepaid card to acquire bitcoins.
Read this:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15383.msg234943#msg234943
Thank so much for taking the time out to help , but i dont like the part of me going to the bank , i was thinking of doing it all on the net using a netcafe with a prepaid credit card , any thoughts if this can be done ?
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Yes i understand the whole concept , its like ebay , yes i get it , but im just so freaking scared to fuck up and not do things right , like for example , where do i buy bitcoins with a prepaid credit card ? and where do i get a good e wallet to put it in ? i looked around and the one place that everyone likes seems to suck now , so im stuck , if you guys want to sit her and just troll than just fuck off , im asking for help , not sarcasm , not everyone can understand how to do all things fast , maybe you guys understand how to guide yourselves thru the darknet , but i don't , i bet there are many things that im better at doing than most people on here like taking a whole engine apart and putting it back together , or figuring out chemical properties of many of the drugs that your buying on here , its not that i cant figure it out , its the fact that i like to party , but in nyc the drugs suck here and i have a lot to loose if something happens , i just would like to get it right , every time i read something about moving forward in doing my purchase there's another topic telling me that that method has loop holes and sucks
You don't need a prepaid card to acquire bitcoins.
Read this:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15383.msg234943#msg234943
Thank so much for taking the time out to help , but i dont like the part of me going to the bank , i was thinking of doing it all on the net using a netcafe with a prepaid credit card , any thoughts if this can be done ?
Using a prepaid card isn't as secure as a cash deposit unless you take certain precautions.
e.g. using fake documentation or alt information to acquire the card, using a fake address to receive the prepaid card, using dark glasses/hat for the benefit of CCTV when filling up the prepaid card with cash at a shop, filling out forms to acquire the card while wearing gloves etc.
Also, even if you achieve the above, you've got to consider that you should ideally be using it as a one time card because otherwise the transactions are being linked together.
You can do this anonymously with cards, but frankly it's not for newbie buyers due to either the level of capital you'll have to employ or the amount of grunt work you'll have to do.
So...
Either use CIM or use cash deposits at a bank or give the cash to somebody in exchange for bitcoin (P2P exchange). All those methods have minor caveats, but are infinitely better than using a bank transfer or credit card to obtain bitcoin.
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I Dont Know How To Do Anything , The Only Thing That I Have Done Is Down Load Tor And Use It , I Was Thinking I Have Three Laptops Here In My House That I Dont Use , I Was Thinking Of Buying A Brand New Hard drive And Popping It In , From What It Seems I Should Be Using Linux ? Then Down Load Tor Again ? Then After That Down Load The PGP Program , And After That I HAve No Clue What To do , I Have No Idea How To Buy Bitcoins And I Realy Dont LIke The Idea Of Going To A Bank To Deposit Money , Is There A Place I Can Use A PrePaid Credit Card ?
chillax, dude, take this one step at a time.
use one of those laptops you dont use, and put something like TAILS on it, and you'll be fine. make sure you write down the currently address of silkroad, that's all you really need to remember.
linux and all that is the IDEAL way to do it, but you dont REALLY need to do that, if you're just buying.
now, if you're a vendor, you really should know your way around computers, and linux in particular, so you can properly protect yourself, but the bare essentials to buying on silk road are as follows:
know how to use tor.
know how to use gnupg (it comes out for windows, if you prefer)
know how to chill out and take things one step at a time.
may i humbly suggest that you go ahead and google tor and gnupg and start reading a little bit about it.
all you really need to know how to do, is encrypt a bit of text to someone /else's/ public key with gnupg.
that's it. it's for your mailing address.
another bit of help: use a friend's address, or a p.o. box.
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regarding the bitcoins, just keep a lot of them handy. learn everything you can about bitcoins.
i'd also read about similar technologies such as OpenTransactions and such, just so you have a very solid grounding in the technology, but you dont REALLY need to do that in order to simply buy from silkroad.
what you do need to know how to do, is how to buy bitcoins anonymously.
is there a public wifi near you?
use a mcdonalds or starbucks wifi with one of those unused laptops, and connect to mtgox and bitinstant.
create throwaway accounts there (do not use tor, use the public wifi!) and act like nothing is suspicious.
THEN, once you are done buying your bitcoins (more detailed instructions are in the sticky thread at the top of this forum) you need to launder them, you can just use several insta-wallets (again, more detailed instructions elsewhere in this forum) to obscure your trail in the blockchain.
then deposit your bitcoins in your silkroad bitcoin address to have them credited toward your account.
then you can chat with several vendors to see what you need to do to prove yourself.
personally, i'd use TAILS (a special version of linux just for this sort of thing) and connect to the SILC chatroom, and ask about it.
if you dont know how to connect to the SILC chatroom using TAILS, and are unwilling to learn how, then you probably shoudnt even be here.
you are going to learn about computer security really fast, so be prepared.
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Honestly, I'm not too experienced since I've only made one purchase but, for a newbie, it's fairly easy to figure out if you read the forums. Simplest way is find a bitcoin vendor, get a moneypak, get your coins, choose the vendor you want to work with, then figure out where you can get it shipped to safely. Those are your basic steps for a beginner buyer, I'd say. But I'm no expert.
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regarding the bitcoins, just keep a lot of them handy. learn everything you can about bitcoins.
i'd also read about similar technologies such as OpenTransactions and such, just so you have a very solid grounding in the technology, but you dont REALLY need to do that in order to simply buy from silkroad.
what you do need to know how to do, is how to buy bitcoins anonymously.
is there a public wifi near you?
use a mcdonalds or starbucks wifi with one of those unused laptops, and connect to mtgox and bitinstant.
create throwaway accounts there (do not use tor, use the public wifi!) and act like nothing is suspicious.
THEN, once you are done buying your bitcoins (more detailed instructions are in the sticky thread at the top of this forum) you need to launder them, you can just use several insta-wallets (again, more detailed instructions elsewhere in this forum) to obscure your trail in the blockchain.
then deposit your bitcoins in your silkroad bitcoin address to have them credited toward your account.
then you can chat with several vendors to see what you need to do to prove yourself.
personally, i'd use TAILS (a special version of linux just for this sort of thing) and connect to the SILC chatroom, and ask about it.
if you dont know how to connect to the SILC chatroom using TAILS, and are unwilling to learn how, then you probably shoudnt even be here.
you are going to learn about computer security really fast, so be prepared.
Thank you for taking the time to help once again , just to clarify iam here just to buy , i think if i would sell on here i would probably catch a heart attack from all the stress lol , i will try it out , ill just go to a net cafe right up the block from my job and use it to go to mtgox and bitinstant , with out using the tor net , then im going to use one of my laptops , put in a new harddrive with win 7 just for buying of sr , i hope i get it right ! many thanks , if i have any problems in the future is it ok if i pm you ?
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Man, it sounds like you need to smoke a bowl and chill the fuck out. You've got this. It's quite simple :)
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I'm a newbie as well and yes there is a lot to take in. However I'm really learning a lot which was an unintended consequence in my search for err... "Lipitor :D ". So all of the elbow-grease involved in making my first purchase has been very worthwhile in terms of the stuff I learned most of which is not necessarily specific to procuring "Lipitor".
There is so much information here and the senior and IT savvy people seem to be very generous and patient in helping us newbies out. So thanks to those guys/gals!
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It is a lot to take in, but we all had to do this...first learn a bit of basic Tor just to get here, then figure out just how much you want to protect yourself, which can mean using a linux OS, like Tails or Liberte or Privatix...I always suggest people do what I"ve done myself just recently, which is start at the *beginning* of this thread here, the 'Security' thread, as if you take a couple of hours and do that, you'll find out all the things we sorted out, and the different ways of approaching your security. After using different virtual machines, and privatix and liberte, I've actually gone back to Tails, as it 'keeps me honest' and all my passwords and pgp keys I keep stashed in a cloud website, similar to dropbox.
To purchase, you need to acquire bicoins. There are all kinds of ways to do that, and take a little time, and look around the threads. I've ised TRadeHill, and getbitcoins.com...TH went under, but now, like many others, I just purchase from one of the online vendors, tho here you do need to study up a bit, so you don't get ripped off: there is absolutely *no* protection buying them from online vendors, so reputation is everything...but it doesn't take much reflection to realize that you don't have really any protection buying from outside vendors, as they can go under to, and when TradeHill went under it took me weeks to retrieve my funds. Online vendors that I know have always treated me honest are btcKing, btcBuddy, and btcPal. SugarMama also has good reputation...but again, you need to look at the threads, and keep up to date.
Depending on what drug you like, there is bound to be a thread on it, where people post their experiences. I trust these more than the feedback you see on main site.
So, get to studying, not that hard to get this shit figured out, at least to a degree where you'll be comfortable...but we can't do the work for you, as we had to learn all this ourselves also....
best wishes...
pbb
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Ya im still trying to figure all this out , but im sure ill get it
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Ya im still trying to figure all this out , but im sure ill get it
Once you get it down, it'll become second nature to you. We all started somewhere, so don't sweat it. ;)
Good to see you're still trying though, great job!