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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: 4hours on May 03, 2012, 10:19 pm

Title: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: 4hours on May 03, 2012, 10:19 pm
Ok, so I've tried lots of different coke from various sources. Some of which looks incredible, scaly, shiny oily flake. Great to snort.

However, it won't wash up properly in Ammonia. You get a gloopy oil that doesn't go hard and sinks to the bottom of the spoon. Takes an age to dry and isn't really that good a smoke. Causes the heart to beat faster and a feeling of panic.

What is this cut? anyone know? Benzocine? Magic?

Whatever it is, it seems to be in a lot of UK gear. I dont remember it being this bad last year.
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: Limetless on May 03, 2012, 10:21 pm
Simple answer, because U.K coke is shite.
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: Prawl42 on May 03, 2012, 10:29 pm
Simple answer, because U.K coke is shite.

hehe you beat me too it :)
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: Limetless on May 03, 2012, 10:34 pm
Simple answer, because U.K coke is shite.

hehe you beat me too it :)

Also why do you need to wash up anyway? Crack should not be in vogue lol. Why ruin coke when it's perfectly good as coke, at the most you basing it is acceptable but rocking coke and making it into Crack just ruins a wonderful thing. Well I say wonderful thing but it isn't because you are in the U.K lol...
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: pine on May 03, 2012, 11:15 pm
I think I know. Symptoms sound familiar. I don't want to scare you unnecessarily, but this could be a serious problem, I think it's a levamisole (it accounts for the speedy sensation) cut in which case you ought to stay the hell away from it unless you can get it washed properly. It's time to do some serious googling now.

Google levamisole and cocaine or go to erowid, there are a lot of good articles on the subject online.

https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/cocaine/cocaine_article2.shtml

A lot of the lab tests can't distinguish between levamisole and cocaine. Dancesafe were working on a kit, but I'm not sure it's available.

The real problem is that levamisole isn't being added at the street level, it's being done right at the origin of the cocaine; the farmers in Columbia. So the entire supply chain is infected. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say the DEA's death squads in South America have influenced production either directly or indirectly. The cocaine could be cleaned up in Spain before it reaches the UK, but there's no incentive to make that happen.

There is also the possibility that this is a psy-ops operation, either completely or in part. I have a feeling this is not the case though. There is one way to find out. Get your cocaine tested with one of the new levamisole detection drug kits and see what it says. 

[Edit:

Here is how to make your own detection kit:

http://www.levamicoke.info/

If this is out of your field of expertise, then pay a lab rat somewhere]
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: alcapone on May 03, 2012, 11:24 pm
Levamisole.
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: 4hours on May 05, 2012, 12:07 am
Oh right. Cheers for the info. I thought levamisole was only added in small amounts. Perhaps someones piling it in UK side.

Sometimes I think all these coke dealers care about is money.
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: winterjacket1 on May 05, 2012, 11:26 pm
Wow, I'm really glad you posted this. I've come across this issue - it was actually my first SR purchase.

I did an acid-base extraction and was left with nothing. I must have some good karma, it sounds like some  dangerous stuff.

It killed DJ AM !!
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: Limetless on May 05, 2012, 11:27 pm
Order from Dutchaanbod
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: bsalt on May 06, 2012, 01:37 am
Ok, so I've tried lots of different coke from various sources. Some of which looks incredible, scaly, shiny oily flake. Great to snort.

However, it won't wash up properly in Ammonia. You get a gloopy oil that doesn't go hard and sinks to the bottom of the spoon. Takes an age to dry and isn't really that good a smoke. Causes the heart to beat faster and a feeling of panic.

What is this cut? anyone know? Benzocine? Magic?

Whatever it is, it seems to be in a lot of UK gear. I dont remember it being this bad last year.

because it's not coke it's an RC
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: Harm Reduction Ire on May 06, 2012, 10:16 am
I know that from tox reports from coke seized its been cut with Mephedrone this has been going on since late 2011 and from users reports and also large seizure of lignocaine being reported too in the UK and Ireland
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: danknugsdun on May 06, 2012, 11:14 pm
coke is bad news in the UK. Looking at around 40%-50% purity streetwise.
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: simplyanon on May 06, 2012, 11:20 pm
coke is bad news in the UK. Looking at around 40%-50% purity streetwise.

Holy fuck.

People have been shot for selling shit like that around here...
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: Prawl42 on May 06, 2012, 11:39 pm
coke is bad news in the UK. Looking at around 40%-50% purity streetwise.

Holy fuck.

People have been shot for selling shit like that around here...

hehe :)

i laugh when my mates say they have some pure coke, im like nah no chance and they are all like NAH NAH TRUST ME ITS PURE I TRUST THIS GUY.
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: DrunkenAfficianado on May 06, 2012, 11:44 pm
A) you wash coke in anhydrous acetone, not ammonia.  The gloppy stuff you saw was probably the base itself.  If you did not then separate the ammonia/water from the base with diethyl ether, then why would you expect it to be easily smoked?  And then after that, you probably also failed to rinse with H2O, making it dangerous as fuck.

2) You could have done the SLIGHTEST bit of research on washing coke, as opposed to moving to and from a salt (making smokable freebase). This information can be found in the Cocaine Handbook and there was even a thread on these boards in the last three days.  I'm not going to "GoogleItForYou" because let's face it:

You are a troll who wants to make folks waste perfectly good cocaine.

Very sad....
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: andyki on May 07, 2012, 12:03 am
A) you wash coke in anhydrous acetone, not ammonia.  The gloppy stuff you saw was probably the base itself.  If you did not then separate the ammonia/water from the base with diethyl ether, then why would you expect it to be easily smoked?  And then after that, you probably also failed to rinse with H2O, making it dangerous as fuck.

2) You could have done the SLIGHTEST bit of research on washing coke, as opposed to moving to and from a salt (making smokable freebase). This information can be found in the Cocaine Handbook and there was even a thread on these boards in the last three days.  I'm not going to "GoogleItForYou" because let's face it:

You are a troll who wants to make folks waste perfectly good cocaine.

Very sad....

I have seen quite a few people mentioning people wash cocaine with ammonia recently. Serious trolling!

Not only will washing cocaine with ammonia basify the cocaine (via deprotonation) but the high level of alkalinity will probably destroy the cocaine.

Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: DrunkenAfficianado on May 07, 2012, 01:12 pm
Right on Andyki,
From what I have experienced and finally learned for myself, 10 to 15 ml clean water to every 0.5 to 1 gram of coke, then drip Ammonia slowly for as long as the precipitation reaction occurs while stirring-- preferably with a copper rod for the most efficient reaction.  Then the diethyl ether separation and water wash. 

Cooks always make it so mysterious, "This is not crack, man. This is Freebase!"  There is important chemistry involved, but once understood, it makes logical sense-- not superstition or luck.

I think yours is an important point on using as little ammonia as possible in the slow precipitation.

 8)
DrunkenAfficianado
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: Limetless on May 08, 2012, 06:39 pm
coke is bad news in the UK. Looking at around 40%-50% purity streetwise.

Holy fuck.

People have been shot for selling shit like that around here...

hehe :)

i laugh when my mates say they have some pure coke, im like nah no chance and they are all like NAH NAH TRUST ME ITS PURE I TRUST THIS GUY.

Haha yeah I love those moments.... I like to counter their claims by whipping out the 84% Colombian Special, let them do a micro-line of that and then be like "Now gangsters....that's pure Bing...."

They have all got wise to it now though. Can't pull that trick any more. :(
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: Prawl42 on May 08, 2012, 08:13 pm
haha the fools round my end aint :)
Title: Re: Why won't UK coke wash up?
Post by: 4hours on June 02, 2012, 01:21 am
Oi, I wasn't trolling. Why on earth would I do that?

I didn't mean wash as in purify it as you would with acetone. In the uk a lot of people say 'wash up' to mean make crack. I was talking about adding cocaine to heated ammonia 10% to make smokable rocks. Its a pretty scummy way of doing it I know.

It's obviously cos UK coke is shite as mentioned and full of benzocaine etc.