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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: Uh oh on April 28, 2012, 11:08 pm
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Alright so itsreally up to anyones imagination but I cant make any sense of this...
Shipped over 15 pills to a buyer with flawless rep. That buyer had over 45 transactions and 0% refunds...couldnt have been more excited as a new vendor to make this happen.
Threw in an extra 3.5 (cant remember it might have been 4) for the buyer and upped domestic shipping to priority with a DCN (just for my peace of mind...I asked if they wanted the better shipping for free and they said no, its fine, no problem, just as long as its packed well, what I ordered, I dont mind if it takes a little longer. I figured hey, why not , its all about developing good buyer/seller relationships and getting the karma going so I did it.
So that day I shipped two orders, that buyers and another buyers (a small order at the base shipping rate about two-three states away). That buyer got their package a day or two ago, I think it only took a day, 2 tops....anyways, I just checked the DCN on the long distance large order showing it as having arrived two days ago and haven't heard a thing from the buyer....
Im trying to stay positive and still look at it from an unbiased perspective....it was in an affluent area....no odd overlays in DCN tracking (used trackingnumbers.org) and waited until I was sure it would have gotten there....I just dont know what the hell to expect! In my heart I think the buyer is either just enjoying himself or forgot to log on now that said buyer has a lot of what they wanted.....but i cant help but worry that as a new vendor they could potentially say they never got it and i would be forced to save face and swallow the hit 150 bucks at least.
Im wondering if the DCN would show delivered even if they nabbed it in hopes of tracking it back to an IP and then finding the sender....they can fuck themselves if they think I didnt have that covered with three layers of separation :) but still, would they show a delivery conf. DCN under tracking if they really got it (which I highly doubt they did)?
Without giving away their locale , it was to an apartment....so maybe its sitting in the office (priority flat mailer), nothing suspicious, packed in such a way that it would x ray just like the other "mints" without showing any scoring or markings...what do people think here, is this common, and whats the next step?
Any other vendors had this experience or something similar?, would be especially interested in how you handled it if there was a dispute as a new vendor and you knew you shipped., th
Thanks for any insight, this has me kind of bummed out atm.
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sounds like you will be fine mate. i know its scary starting doing things like this, but he could be away for the weekend, unexpectedly visiting hospital... or anything thing else that might move checking silk road down his priority list. i know i have left it a few days after recieving my product before finalizing, which i know is hard on the vendors waiting for their coins but sometimes it cant be helped.
he might also just be waiting to try the pills before finalizing and leaving you some feedback. it seems a lot of people are unaware that you can finalize without leaving feedback (hence so many unhelpful FE feedbacks)
hope this eases some of your worries, sorry i cant give you any advice from a vendors perspective
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Probably you've nothing to worry about, a case of patient mammal is patient, but just one thing:
Did you use the Tor network to check the DCN? If you did, don't do that again, it's not a good idea.
It's like ebay, some buyers report in ASAP, and others only give feedback months later when they want to purchase something again. SR's terms beat the crap out of Paypals too, vendors on ebay sometimes wait many weeks to get all their money (ebay are pig fucking ignorant of basic economics of turnover. Vendors can't resupply inventories without capital, that decreases the velocity of trading, which reduces ebay's profits. They are happy to make tiny profits that don't compound so easily on using the float instead of focusing on their core business model. Bad fucking sign in any company, it means they think they're better off giving money to somebody else i.e. another business, instead of reinvesting into their own business).
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sounds like you will be fine mate. i know its scary starting doing things like this, but he could be away for the weekend, unexpectedly visiting hospital... or anything thing else that might move checking silk road down his priority list. i know i have left it a few days after recieving my product before finalizing, which i know is hard on the vendors waiting for their coins but sometimes it cant be helped.
he might also just be waiting to try the pills before finalizing and leaving you some feedback. it seems a lot of people are unaware that you can finalize without leaving feedback (hence so many unhelpful FE feedbacks)
hope this eases some of your worries, sorry i cant give you any advice from a vendors perspective
Hey bud,
Thanks for your assurance, I felt much better after reading this...great news...order confirmed and excellent feedback, phew...
Much appreciate you taking the time to point out the reality that buyer was tied up or just waiting to try the prodo....you the man and i wish you a happy weekend
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Probably you've nothing to worry about.
Did you use the Tor network to check the DCN? If you did, don't do that again, it's not a good idea.
I dont get it, Why is everyone a pussy about checking a package with tor! There are so many firewalls proxy servers etc on the internet and everyone is pussified to TOR a DCN. Don't you think other people than just druggies, and pedos use Tor and probably check their packages on USPS. It's almost like the Candyman mirror, Bloody Mary, and other scarey childhood Superstitions. the only difference is that this candyman is very real and none of us want him to show up at our delivery spot.
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Probably you've nothing to worry about.
Did you use the Tor network to check the DCN? If you did, don't do that again, it's not a good idea.
I dont get it, Why is everyone a pussy about checking a package with tor! There are so many firewalls proxy servers etc on the internet and everyone is pussified to TOR a DCN. Don't you think other people than just druggies, and pedos use Tor and probably check their packages on USPS. It's almost like the Candyman mirror, Bloody Mary, and other scarey childhood Superstitions. the only difference is that this candyman is very real and none of us want him to show up at our delivery spot.
Customs believe that anybody checking a tracking number via Tor could be sending items of interest such as weapons, drugs, child porn, confidential or secret documents etc
And yes, in my view, that's what I'd call "an educated guess" from their POV, it's a completely legitimate reason to cast suspicion and it is trivial to implement (the postal inspection police force is hardly your average police cat, I suspect they are linked to the secret service and CIA or other intelligence agencies because they are ideally positioned at a strategically important information conduit). The set of people checking DCNs with the Tor network are highly unlikely to want anybody else analyzing the contents of those packages, whether or not the contents are legal. That makes those packages interesting.
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Probably you've nothing to worry about.
Did you use the Tor network to check the DCN? If you did, don't do that again, it's not a good idea.
I dont get it, Why is everyone a pussy about checking a package with tor! There are so many firewalls proxy servers etc on the internet and everyone is pussified to TOR a DCN. Don't you think other people than just druggies, and pedos use Tor and probably check their packages on USPS. It's almost like the Candyman mirror, Bloody Mary, and other scarey childhood Superstitions. the only difference is that this candyman is very real and none of us want him to show up at our delivery spot.
Customs believe that anybody checking a tracking number via Tor could be sending items of interest such as weapons, drugs, child porn, confidential or secret documents etc
The postal inspection police force is hardly your average police cat, I suspect they are linked to the secret service and CIA or other intelligence agencies
Is that true, about customs? do they really have something watching what kind of computer network is tracking a package? USPS is not customs. your pretty close but.... you are coming to the wrong conclusion. Consider your suspicion about USPS being linked to the CIA etc. Don't jump to conclusions use facts to come to your conclusion. Have you made a better conclusion yet? Keep thinking, you've been taught a certain series of connections that make you think a certain way. Morpheous, or your Avatar admirer Dave can break you from dis-wonderland. It is in you to figure out the correct logical path. The path of least resistance flow like water my dear pine, sip with the Formosa and the Panther.
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just message the buyer saying the packaged should have arrived and to finalize.
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just to prove it im going to Tor DCN my legal packages that I send to my legal address. See if they showed up opened or anything. I doubt it. This is the equivalent of Saying Candyman twice and putting the mirror down.
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Guys, I'm curious about something I find interesting.
Buyer creates wonderful communication at first, during and throughout transaction... until buyer receives.
Then... NOTHING. Sure maybe a 5/5 but howabout together with ............................ nothing. Or "leave feedback here"
What do some vetties think of buyer who is perfectly communicative and seems all chummy but then somehow.. forgets to leave wonderful feedback? It strikes me as entirely odd. It doesn't make me think they are who they say they are.
And as far as the OP, it's obvious that the buyer got they goods or they woulda for sure said something. Plus they likely using said goods and will get back when they remember. I know of someone who did the same thing even though vendor requested specifically to get back upon receive.
Sorry if the top is hijacking.
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just to prove it im going to Tor DCN my legal packages that I send to my legal address. See if they showed up opened or anything. I doubt it. This is the equivalent of Saying Candyman twice and putting the mirror down.
<sigh> Except that won't even work. Packages that get a 2nd look aren't physically touched. X-rays and ion spectrometry.
Do you think the postal inspector thinks: "Oh, this particular package could have a bomb, I had better open it and check"...? How about no. Things like pinhole inspection and package opening only occur after the afore mentioned checks.
Also you would have red flagged your address for no reason which means future purchases could be checked too. Anyway, you're entitled to do whatever you wish, albeit your path of least resistance may make you a guest of our beloved state yet.
btw: postal inspection service != united states postal service. We are not talking about the same people.
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just to prove it im going to Tor DCN my legal packages that I send to my legal address. See if they showed up opened or anything. I doubt it. This is the equivalent of Saying Candyman twice and putting the mirror down.
<sigh> Except that won't even work. Packages that get a 2nd look aren't physically touched. X-rays and ion spectrometry.
Do you think the postal inspector thinks: "Oh, this particular package could have a bomb, I had better open it and check"...? How about no. Things like pinhole inspection and package opening only occur after the afore mentioned checks.
Also you would have red flagged your address for no reason which means future purchases could be checked too. Anyway, you're entitled to do whatever you wish, albeit your path of least resistance may make you a guest of our beloved state yet.
btw: postal inspection service != united states postal service. We are not talking about the same people.
Please provide examples of USPS using packet sniffing to search for Tor DCN lookups. LOL. The biggest secret I can't divulge. I have told you how to find it, and you continue to roll in the BS. Lets just say heat sealing Marijuana and drugs in the mail has been going on since vietnam, I bet Our Fuhher Twenty Leader himself had the cream of the crop vaccum packed and shipped to castle wolfenstein.
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just to prove it im going to Tor DCN my legal packages that I send to my legal address. See if they showed up opened or anything. I doubt it. This is the equivalent of Saying Candyman twice and putting the mirror down.
<sigh> Except that won't even work.
my dearest pine (if that is really your beauty). Have you sipped with the formosa and the panther? you are speaking futuristic technocracy babble. Things are simpler than you imagine. I appreciate your integrate knowledge of high tech BS. Access your logic flow gates, connect, to the deeper regions of grey matter. Ask yourself "Is torring a dcn really probable cause?"
Rinse yourself in RAW free the hippo-campus. America was built by assassins. Rule one Lie your ass off, Rule two keep a gun, rule three no government agents can be force to live in your home you can only invite them to live there. Rule 4. You are free from search if you raise no suspicion. Rule 5 you dont ahve to say anything. Rule 6 You are gurantted a speedy fair trial. (follow 1, and 5 at the trial withought getting caught in a lie, Make sure there are no witnesses to use their 1st, Pay them to use the their 5th if you have to.
JFK was a whole new ball game, and its been off the hook ever since.