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Title: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: GiantsAreKings on April 13, 2012, 01:47 am
I finally placed my first SR order today and I received a DCN, but the vendor told me not to check it with TOR because it would be flagged by LE and confiscated.

I searched before I made this thread and couldn't find any info other than not to use TOR. I really don't want to use my regular browser and have my IP logged just in case of something. I would imagine going to usps.com by using a site through let's say proxy.org would be the same thing as TOR pretty much, no?

How do you guys check yours? I would imagine even the vendors that don't give the #'s out and keep the DCN's for their own purposes have to check their DCN at some point. What's the best way? Thanks for the help. I'm new to all of this, kind of paranoid and the vendor made me more paranoid by saying that.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: MightyMagics on April 13, 2012, 05:21 am
Don't check your DCN from Tor NO MATTER what.  The post office can tell when DCN info for a particular package has been accessed through a TOR browser. Though the post office cant track where you accessed the info from they can tell the type of anonymous browser you used and that is a red flag. The post office will then pay particular attention to your package because they know a person who does not want to be  known accessed the DCN info.

Access the info from an internet cafe. It wont raise any red flags. They will be able to track the location though so make it a public place where anybody could have accessed the info.  Library, internet cafe works

Hope this helps
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: eclipsin on April 13, 2012, 04:39 pm
Yeah, don't use tor to check.  Just an internet cafe, coffee shop, etc.   
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: McGoober on April 13, 2012, 09:30 pm
Don't check your DCN from Tor NO MATTER what.  The post office can tell when DCN info for a particular package has been accessed through a TOR browser. Though the post office cant track where you accessed the info from they can tell the type of anonymous browser you used and that is a red flag.

So you're saying the post office has someone check every package with a DCN to see if it was tracked with a Tor Browser?? This seems like a lot of extra work for otherwise lazy postal workers.

I don't buy it...something tells me the whole "Don't use Tor" advice is disinfo.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: QTC on April 13, 2012, 09:53 pm
Use a third-party package tracking site like packagemapping.com from Starbucks or whatever.
So you're saying the post office has someone check every package with a DCN to see if it was tracked with a Tor Browser?? This seems like a lot of extra work for otherwise lazy postal workers.
I have it on good information that it's already being done and no it doesn't require human effort at all, just a simple check to see whether tracking info is being accessed from a Tor exit node.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: TreyWingo104 on April 13, 2012, 10:09 pm
To the above poster....please provide sources.  I'm not saying it isn't true, but I've read posts where a TON of people say they can spot checks via TOR through exit nodes, and other ppl. claim to have been using anon. services, port forwarding or what not to check for years without a problem.   

Anyways my best advice is to use an internet cafe, preferentially at a place like Panera (if in US) where you can access WiFi without having to enter the store.  BUT!  be sure to turn off all cookies prior to going so that your sessions don't link , potentially linking info on your home network that could trace back to you. 

I wouldn't go through all the hassle though.  I would have an old friend in another state check it for me.  That simple....unless your talking large quantity weight that's gonna make it a real bitch for them to trace that IP back to you if anything goes wrong with the package.  Also, even if you're using public WiFi, if they really wanted to find you they might be able to access surveillance footage from said area and link it your license plate if they can spot somebody sitting from the relative safety of their car on a laptop. 

My two cents

and preferably use a computer with legit no personal data whatsoever.  Like a separate laptop that youve used only for SR and never entered any personally identifiable information into (name, bday, etc.)
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: cacoethes on April 14, 2012, 05:11 pm
I finally placed my first SR order today and I received a DCN, but the vendor told me not to check it with TOR because it would be flagged by LE and confiscated.

I searched before I made this thread and couldn't find any info other than not to use TOR. I really don't want to use my regular browser and have my IP logged just in case of something. I would imagine going to usps.com by using a site through let's say proxy.org would be the same thing as TOR pretty much, no?

How do you guys check yours? I would imagine even the vendors that don't give the #'s out and keep the DCN's for their own purposes have to check their DCN at some point. What's the best way? Thanks for the help. I'm new to all of this, kind of paranoid and the vendor made me more paranoid by saying that.

Don't check the damn DCN.  It's NOT a tracking number.  It's sole purpose is for the vendor to know if your package made it or not.  That way, if a buyer claims not to have received the package, the vendor will know it's bullshit if the DCN says otherwise.

You package will arrive, or it won't.  If it does, then great!  If it does not, file a dispute with SR, and let the vendor worry about checking the DCN.  Vendors can check safely since their addresses are not on the line.

You'll never be able to claim you were not expecting a package if it can be proved that YOU checked the DCN of the package in question.

Checking from Tor may or may not raise a red flag.  Who really knows?  I've read nothing but speculation, but why take a chance?

Checking from your own computer in the clear links you to the package.  Bad idea.

If you absolutely, positively, MUST check the DCN, do it from a public wi-fi spot or similar location.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: QTC on April 14, 2012, 05:22 pm
Of course DCN tracks, in fact I'm looking at a pack's progress right now (and I know it's DCN and not certified mail or something since it starts with 03xx).
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: dankology on April 14, 2012, 06:49 pm
NOBODY HAS *EVER* PROVIDED CONCRETE EVIDENCE THAT THE USPS CAN EVEN TELL TOR IS BEING USED TO TRACK PACKAGES, DO NOT BELIEVE THIS BULLSHIT.  I did for awhile until I realized nobody has put forth real evidence, its all been word of mouth speculation (which happens way too often around here)  I use TOR now to track a lot of my packages, usually just to make sure they have been delivered, I have NEVER had any sort of problems with any packages. 

UNTIL SOME PROOF CAN BE PUT FORWARD DO NOT BELIEVE USPS FLAGS PACKAGES AND ADDRESSES TRACKED THROUGH TOR. 
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: 328502E on April 14, 2012, 11:36 pm
NOBODY HAS *EVER* PROVIDED CONCRETE EVIDENCE THAT THE USPS CAN EVEN TELL TOR IS BEING USED TO TRACK PACKAGES, DO NOT BELIEVE THIS BULLSHIT.  I did for awhile until I realized nobody has put forth real evidence, its all been word of mouth speculation (which happens way too often around here)  I use TOR now to track a lot of my packages, usually just to make sure they have been delivered, I have NEVER had any sort of problems with any packages. 

UNTIL SOME PROOF CAN BE PUT FORWARD DO NOT BELIEVE USPS FLAGS PACKAGES AND ADDRESSES TRACKED THROUGH TOR.

Are you really that dense?  Just because there is no concrete evidence that they DO do this doesn't mean that they CAN'T.  The fact is that it would be fairly simple for USPS to monitor for people checking tracking from TOR, flag the package, and intercept it for further investigation.   So you are basically saying...it's not 100% sure that you'll get caught if you do this, so go ahead and do it. 

I can see the headline now: dankology arrested and charged for selling drugs, his excuse: "THERE WAS NO CONCRETE EVIDENCE THEY WERE MONITORING MY CELL PHONE, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW NOT TO MAKE DRUG DEALS IN PLAIN TEXT?"

Are you a vendor?  Because if you are, it scares me that you are fucking around with somebodies life so carelessly.  I would NEVER buy from you.   
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: cacoethes on April 14, 2012, 11:50 pm
Of course DCN tracks, in fact I'm looking at a pack's progress right now (and I know it's DCN and not certified mail or something since it starts with 03xx).

I said it wasn't designed to be used as a tracking number, not that it didn't track.  And if you're using it for that 20 times per day, makes sense that it might raise the same flags as checking anonymously.

Maybe I'm wrong...  And maybe checking from Tor doesn't raise any flags, either.

But since I don't know, I'll leave checking the DCN to my vendor if the package doesn't arrive.  It will get here, or it won't... I still don't care where it is along the way.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: mdmamail on April 15, 2012, 04:57 am
Google "track a package"
You can use lot's of 3rd party sites to look up tracking through Tor.

Could also simply use Hotspot shield free VPN to do it, but not recommended. Use a third party site
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: dankology on April 15, 2012, 06:11 am
NOBODY HAS *EVER* PROVIDED CONCRETE EVIDENCE THAT THE USPS CAN EVEN TELL TOR IS BEING USED TO TRACK PACKAGES, DO NOT BELIEVE THIS BULLSHIT.  I did for awhile until I realized nobody has put forth real evidence, its all been word of mouth speculation (which happens way too often around here)  I use TOR now to track a lot of my packages, usually just to make sure they have been delivered, I have NEVER had any sort of problems with any packages. 

UNTIL SOME PROOF CAN BE PUT FORWARD DO NOT BELIEVE USPS FLAGS PACKAGES AND ADDRESSES TRACKED THROUGH TOR.

Are you really that dense?  Just because there is no concrete evidence that they DO do this doesn't mean that they CAN'T.  The fact is that it would be fairly simple for USPS to monitor for people checking tracking from TOR, flag the package, and intercept it for further investigation.   So you are basically saying...it's not 100% sure that you'll get caught if you do this, so go ahead and do it. 

I can see the headline now: dankology arrested and charged for selling drugs, his excuse: "THERE WAS NO CONCRETE EVIDENCE THEY WERE MONITORING MY CELL PHONE, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW NOT TO MAKE DRUG DEALS IN PLAIN TEXT?"

Are you a vendor?  Because if you are, it scares me that you are fucking around with somebodies life so carelessly.  I would NEVER buy from you.


LOL

Im not even gonna respond to this.  Have fun in your little world of second hand knowledge.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: mdmamail on April 15, 2012, 07:36 am
NOBODY HAS *EVER* PROVIDED CONCRETE EVIDENCE THAT THE USPS CAN EVEN TELL TOR IS BEING USED TO TRACK PACKAGES, DO NOT BELIEVE THIS BULLSHIT.  I did for awhile until I realized nobody has put forth real evidence, its all been word of mouth speculation (which happens way too often around here)  I use TOR now to track a lot of my packages, usually just to make sure they have been delivered, I have NEVER had any sort of problems with any packages. 

UNTIL SOME PROOF CAN BE PUT FORWARD DO NOT BELIEVE USPS FLAGS PACKAGES AND ADDRESSES TRACKED THROUGH TOR.

Are you really that dense?  Just because there is no concrete evidence that they DO do this doesn't mean that they CAN'T.  The fact is that it would be fairly simple for USPS to monitor for people checking tracking from TOR, flag the package, and intercept it for further investigation.   So you are basically saying...it's not 100% sure that you'll get caught if you do this, so go ahead and do it. 

I can see the headline now: dankology arrested and charged for selling drugs, his excuse: "THERE WAS NO CONCRETE EVIDENCE THEY WERE MONITORING MY CELL PHONE, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW NOT TO MAKE DRUG DEALS IN PLAIN TEXT?"

Are you a vendor?  Because if you are, it scares me that you are fucking around with somebodies life so carelessly.  I would NEVER buy from you.


LOL

Im not even gonna respond to this.  Have fun in your little world of second hand knowledge.

Tor exit node proxies all end up on blacklists, so if USPS is using common blacklisting for their web server it will flag something.
True we have no idea if they look for Tor IPs but why risk when you can just use any 3rd party tracking site for free with Tor

http://www.google.com/search?q=track%20a%20package%20worldwide
http://www.trackapackage.com/index2.html
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: dankology on April 15, 2012, 08:44 pm
Because I have never had any problems doing it, on top of that I only check them after they should have been delivered.  Im not going to be paranoid over something that isn't true and has never been confirmed.  I've looked over two separate "USPS Flags" lists and neither say a thing about using TOR or proxys.  I dont understand how a 3rd party tracking site would be any less "suspicious" than using TOR lololol. 
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: 328502E on April 15, 2012, 11:01 pm
Because I have never had any problems doing it, on top of that I only check them after they should have been delivered.  Im not going to be paranoid over something that isn't true and has never been confirmed.  I've looked over two separate "USPS Flags" lists and neither say a thing about using TOR or proxys.  I dont understand how a 3rd party tracking site would be any less "suspicious" than using TOR lololol.

Because a third party tracking site is normal, and many people do it.  TOR on the other hand is not normal, and represents somebody trying to be anonymous.  Again, just because YOU have not had problems does not make it SAFE.

Back to the cell phone analogy - "HEY I MADE DRUG DEALS IN PLAIN TEXT NO PROBLEM ANYTIME, I USE IT TO BUY KILOS OF COKE...ITS FINE".  Uh, no, it's not fine.  Take a logic class, because you are clearly lacking it.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: cacoethes on April 16, 2012, 02:47 am
I'd also like to point out that, since DCNs are not tracking numbers, they are often inaccurate as an indicator of a package's location.  As I understand it, there is no requirement for DCN labeled packages to be scanned anywhere en route, except for delivery confirmation itself.

If a postal worker is conscientious enough to scan the package along the way, the information shows up, but there is no obligation for postal workers to do this, and as a result, the package may be somewhere else entirely than what the last scan indicates.

I'd like to know where my package is as much as anyone, but since I'm not 100% sure about anything, I just wait patiently.  Besides, on domestic orders, if I know the day my package is shipped, I can usually guess within a day or two when it will actually arrive, especially if I know the vendor's location from having ordered from them before.

Anyway, I like my tinfoil hat.  It looks good on me.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: dankology on April 16, 2012, 03:46 am
Because I have never had any problems doing it, on top of that I only check them after they should have been delivered.  Im not going to be paranoid over something that isn't true and has never been confirmed.  I've looked over two separate "USPS Flags" lists and neither say a thing about using TOR or proxys.  I dont understand how a 3rd party tracking site would be any less "suspicious" than using TOR lololol.

Because a third party tracking site is normal, and many people do it.  TOR on the other hand is not normal, and represents somebody trying to be anonymous.  Again, just because YOU have not had problems does not make it SAFE.

Back to the cell phone analogy - "HEY I MADE DRUG DEALS IN PLAIN TEXT NO PROBLEM ANYTIME, I USE IT TO BUY KILOS OF COKE...ITS FINE".  Uh, no, it's not fine.  Take a logic class, because you are clearly lacking it.

Lol I have no clue what that second part of your post is even about but a third party tracking site is "normal"?  Lol.  Using the usps.com website to track your DCNs is "normal", using a third party tracking website or TOR is the same in my eyes. When someone gets busted because they saw TOR was being used to track packages maybe i'll believe that hyped up BS.  Until then Im working in the realistic world.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: Limetless on April 16, 2012, 06:50 am
Could you just use VPN to check tracking?
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: Mistersketch on April 16, 2012, 07:03 am
id say you are safest using proxy or maybe a VPN depending on whether or not it logs information and was paid for anonymously, even then I still have some trouble using VPNs after hearing some cooperate with feds

safe way to check would be cracked or open wifi connection but i also wouldnt see a problem using your regular IP since it is just a package to everyone elses knowledge

as for dankology, it seems like you have your options set in stone, if you choose to not believe the things you hear then so be it but if you are lazy enough to not even follow a small simple precautionary I couldnt imagine what others you dont take,

Tor is far from perfect, if that is all you are doing to stay safe then I wouldnt be sitting comfortably as you so seem to be
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: cacoethes on April 16, 2012, 07:59 am
id say you are safest using proxy or maybe a VPN depending on whether or not it logs information and was paid for anonymously, even then I still have some trouble using VPNs after hearing some cooperate with feds

safe way to check would be cracked or open wifi connection but i also wouldnt see a problem using your regular IP since it is just a package to everyone elses knowledge

as for dankology, it seems like you have your options set in stone, if you choose to not believe the things you hear then so be it but if you are lazy enough to not even follow a small simple precautionary I couldnt imagine what others you dont take,

Tor is far from perfect, if that is all you are doing to stay safe then I wouldnt be sitting comfortably as you so seem to be

The problem I see with using your regular IP is it can be shown that you were indeed expecting the package, and your computer doesn't even have to be seized/inspected for LE to accomplish this...  Makes claiming ignorance of any wrongdoing extremely difficult.

I'm still missing the reason that people are so eager to track their packages using DCN every step of the way.  DCN is for domestic to domestic mail, and it isn't terribly difficult to estimate how long your package should take to arrive, assuming the vendor actually ships when they say they do.  Until  someone can say with 100% certainty exactly what does or does not flag a package as suspicious, it just seems safer to only use the DCN if the package doesn't arrive when it should.  If I was a vendor, I would always use a DCN to protect against buyers who claim they never received, but I wouldn't give out the number.

I said I liked my tinfoil hat, but I really don't think I'm being paranoid.  I think my reasoning is sound.  Using a DCN to track a package that contains illegal drugs satisfies nothing except a desire for the instant gratification you'll get from knowing your package was just scanned in Albuquerque.  Another potential weak link in an otherwise secure chain of events.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.  If it ain't late, don't check it.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: Fah-Q on April 16, 2012, 02:19 pm
I finally placed my first SR order today and I received a DCN, but the vendor told me not to check it with TOR because it would be flagged by LE and confiscated.

I searched before I made this thread and couldn't find any info other than not to use TOR. I really don't want to use my regular browser and have my IP logged just in case of something. I would imagine going to usps.com by using a site through let's say proxy.org would be the same thing as TOR pretty much, no?

How do you guys check yours? I would imagine even the vendors that don't give the #'s out and keep the DCN's for their own purposes have to check their DCN at some point. What's the best way? Thanks for the help. I'm new to all of this, kind of paranoid and the vendor made me more paranoid by saying that.

They already have your address. So how anonymous is that ?
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: dankology on April 17, 2012, 05:04 pm
id say you are safest using proxy or maybe a VPN depending on whether or not it logs information and was paid for anonymously, even then I still have some trouble using VPNs after hearing some cooperate with feds

safe way to check would be cracked or open wifi connection but i also wouldnt see a problem using your regular IP since it is just a package to everyone elses knowledge

as for dankology, it seems like you have your options set in stone, if you choose to not believe the things you hear then so be it but if you are lazy enough to not even follow a small simple precautionary I couldnt imagine what others you dont take,

Tor is far from perfect, if that is all you are doing to stay safe then I wouldnt be sitting comfortably as you so seem to be

LOL,  Lazy?  Sorry i'm not stressing my body out constantly by taking UNNECESSARY precautions and being constantly paranoid over shit that isn't even true.  Have fun with your headaches.  Im glad you feel good taking shots at my operations like you know shit hahaha.  Im glad you're even acting like you have a clue how my security is run.  Don't be such a fuckin dick to people.


I could care less if im popping up as a child porn lover,  I have a right to privacy in all forms downloading TOR and using it to check packages is well within that right.  Im not compromising anybody and don't even make a post if its gonna say something like "you're compromising the buyer!!!one11"  because that is so wrong its laughable.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: tordemon on April 18, 2012, 01:21 am
Let's put it this way: I've never seen evidence that using Tor has led to a package being intercepted, but they MOST CERTAINLY have the technical capability to do such a check and flag packages that way. It's insecure regardless of whether it's actually happening, so I would recommend you not do it (what if they look through their logs and see your package a month ago was checked with Tor and flag your future packages?). Below I'll discuss another technical possibility that isn't likely implemented, but is easily possible and is rarely mentioned.

I would really recommend you never check it, ever. If you must, I would recommend some extra fooltrickery, because then if it IS intercepted, the fact that you checked the DCN is proof that you knew it was coming, and therefore can aid their case against you. First, I'd recommend not being on camera. The second (less obvious) part is kinda technical, so you can take relatively moderate risks by following other people's advice to go to a coffee shop with wifi if you don't want the extra protection. Basically, while anybody could have done it, there is a high likelihood that the coffeeshop will implement some type of logging (otherwise they run a risk of being responsible for illegal activity that occurs there). The government could trace the IP address of accessing it back to their shop. Then, looking at their logs, then can determine your (local) IP address at the time, and from that, your MAC Address. Basically, MAC Addresses uniquely identify Network Interface Cards in computers, and so they could look up the records of purchases of those items (ie, check which computer DELL or whomever put that specific network card into, and then who they sold that computer to) to aid in proving that you checked the DCN and therefore were expecting the package. EVER checking the DCN removes much of your plausible deniability, so, seriously, just NEVER DO IT.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: cacoethes on April 25, 2012, 08:07 am
Let's put it this way: I've never seen evidence that using Tor has led to a package being intercepted, but they MOST CERTAINLY have the technical capability to do such a check and flag packages that way. It's insecure regardless of whether it's actually happening, so I would recommend you not do it (what if they look through their logs and see your package a month ago was checked with Tor and flag your future packages?). Below I'll discuss another technical possibility that isn't likely implemented, but is easily possible and is rarely mentioned.

I would really recommend you never check it, ever. If you must, I would recommend some extra fooltrickery, because then if it IS intercepted, the fact that you checked the DCN is proof that you knew it was coming, and therefore can aid their case against you. First, I'd recommend not being on camera. The second (less obvious) part is kinda technical, so you can take relatively moderate risks by following other people's advice to go to a coffee shop with wifi if you don't want the extra protection. Basically, while anybody could have done it, there is a high likelihood that the coffeeshop will implement some type of logging (otherwise they run a risk of being responsible for illegal activity that occurs there). The government could trace the IP address of accessing it back to their shop. Then, looking at their logs, then can determine your (local) IP address at the time, and from that, your MAC Address. Basically, MAC Addresses uniquely identify Network Interface Cards in computers, and so they could look up the records of purchases of those items (ie, check which computer DELL or whomever put that specific network card into, and then who they sold that computer to) to aid in proving that you checked the DCN and therefore were expecting the package. EVER checking the DCN removes much of your plausible deniability, so, seriously, just NEVER DO IT.

I keep harping on this again and again.  I know there are a lot of people who feel perfectly comfortable checking DCNs repeatedly, but I just can't justify the risk in my own mind.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: pine on April 26, 2012, 02:48 am
tordemon is correct, if you check your package's DCN at a net cafe or coffee shop's wi-fi then their router will almost certainly keep your MAC addresss, and MAC addresses are traceable to your credit card, which is traceable to your address etc. Unless you've paid for the laptop with cash or a prepaid, and only use it for this purpose, then...

You should use the internet cafe's computer to check a DCN and wear sunglasses/hat for the CCTV's benefit. It is summer, this is normal, not suspicious.

If you were using a proxy or the Tor network, this wouldn't matter. But you can't, and so it does.

dankology, this is not a crypto-cyber-international-drug-smuggling-punk urban legend, we have been told this by people who *work* in the postal services industry. I heard this long before I arrived at SR.

Remember the anthrax letter scares in the United States a while back, it was probably implemented for a reason like that. Anyway, you're annoyed at the moment so you're unlikely to agree with me. Still, it is true.

P.S. This does not have to a theoretical debate. Send ten packages of low possession quantity e.g. 1g of weed to a person who is not connected to SR or a drug user but agreeable to have packages arrive for a fee and knows to follow procedure i.e. the name on the package isn't for that person and the person writes 'return to sender' and drops the packages back to the Post Office if they arrive. Repeatably check the packages on Tor everyday.

-> Count the love letters. Statistically a max of 1 package ought to be intercepted for the average vendor, given that 97% of packages reach their destination without difficulties. If it's larger than that, then another variable is in the picture.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: Thunderweed on April 26, 2012, 03:07 am
Internet cafe, public wi-fi

even your local library, mcdonalds, etc.

make sure you use a mobile device like itouch, or a laptop that has been purchased anonymously as well
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: Fah-Q on April 26, 2012, 01:42 pm
Use a USB wi-Fi card instead of using the one in you laptop.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: painbow on October 17, 2012, 03:03 am
Aren't there MAC address changing softwares out there?  Are they legit?
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: Oh The Places Youll go on October 17, 2012, 03:29 am
Get elaborate, start off getting a fake ID and then go to the library wearing a Cleveland Browns hat (Noone expects anything from Browns fan, they haven't done anything significant they may even go as far as offering you their mums home made lemon squares but this isn't for sure so don't count on lemon squares off the bat)

Now as you ask for a library card cough mid-sentence and itch your ear at the EXACT same time, this will activate her USSR preprogramed settings since back in the Cold War the USSR knew they could subdue the Americans if they had control of our centers of knowledge. Now start your sentence speaking in Russian asking for a library card, she will reach into your back pocket (USSR trained them as magicians as well) and pull out your new untraceable library card and precede to go to the back office and turn off the cameras while destroying any evidence of your encounter that just happened.

Now you can just use your library card to log on the computer and check your DCN. Also I forgot to add if in the rare case that the librarian is a man make sure to have a cattle prod since the males trained by the USSR were trained to kill whoever initially activated them in case the CIA caught on to their plan.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: NorCalKing on October 20, 2012, 11:04 pm
Kinda funny reading all the jabbering mostly from people who really have no concrete idea of what exactly they are talking about!  It's mostly people spouting off on what they "believe" but have nothing to back it up with.  In reading extensively through the forums, is is popular belief that if you  check dcn's with tor, something bad is going to happen!  That is so far urban legend.  There have been absolutely no reports of any negative situations arising as a result of checking a dcn while on tor. 
Does it sound like it makes sense that you could cause a package to be flagged?  Absolutely it sounds plausible, it just either has never happened, or has never been documented.  I am aware of a handful of people who have, and continue to check through tor, & have had no ramifications.  So it's quite funny listening to all the "sheeple" baaa-bling about how all these packages are going to get flagged, & people are goug to get busted when they know not of what they speaketh!
Until the postal service can make money on confiscating peoples houses or some other way of making money out of the deal, they can't afford to be putting money into tracing or tracking who uses tor to check dcn's with, & that's not going to happen.

I personally have checked # on tor, on clearnet, with vpn, without vpn, & with 3rd party systems, as well as having someone else check.  If you want total anonymity, it's simple!  Tell someone your networks down & you need to check on a package!  Done deal!

So for all those pissing all over Dankology for using tor . . . Man up & eat your words since you don't know what you're talking about!  (silly kids)

NCK
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: thesearstower on October 21, 2012, 05:29 am
Since none of us here (except for the LEO among us) know exactly what methods are being used to track or trace or flag us, it's rational to be as careful as possible. If this is something as simple as not checking a DCN with TOR, then it's almost a no-brainer.

If it doesn't cost us time or money to take an action that plausibly reduces our risk, then what's the harm?

Just because you haven't been caught YET, doesn't mean you won't be caught EVER. I like thumbing my nose at The Man as much as anyone, but the squeaky wheel has a habit of getting arrested.
Title: Re: What is the best way to check a DCN anonymously?
Post by: Zulu on October 22, 2012, 12:58 am
To the above poster....please provide sources.  I'm not saying it isn't true, but I've read posts where a TON of people say they can spot checks via TOR through exit nodes, and other ppl. claim to have been using anon. services, port forwarding or what not to check for years without a problem.   

Anyways my best advice is to use an internet cafe, preferentially at a place like Panera (if in US) where you can access WiFi without having to enter the store.  BUT!  be sure to turn off all cookies prior to going so that your sessions don't link , potentially linking info on your home network that could trace back to you. 

I wouldn't go through all the hassle though.  I would have an old friend in another state check it for me.  That simple....unless your talking large quantity weight that's gonna make it a real bitch for them to trace that IP back to you if anything goes wrong with the package.  Also, even if you're using public WiFi, if they really wanted to find you they might be able to access surveillance footage from said area and link it your license plate if they can spot somebody sitting from the relative safety of their car on a laptop. 

My two cents

and preferably use a computer with legit no personal data whatsoever.  Like a separate laptop that youve used only for SR and never entered any personally identifiable information into (name, bday, etc.)

its an automatic red flag if checked through TOR, would your nanna check where her knitting needles were thtough a military grade system nah just i.e 7 :)