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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: greencrayon on March 11, 2012, 12:05 am
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It is important to choose a safe substance. I believe pot, heroin, and cocaine are the riskiest due to their prevalence and well known smells and appearance. Maybe ecstasy too.
Here are the safest packaging schemes I have seen or have thought of. Let's put our heads together. Look for flaws and see if you can strengthen these ideas.
LSD: Little or no smell, very few dogs are trained to detect, and can be put in a regular envelope, which gets the least attention. A seller could put a few blotter tabs in a birthday card as if it is confetti or place drops on old used graph paper and encrypt a message to the recipient that says which squares it is located on.
Mushrooms: Someone said that their father in law worked with k-9 dogs and only 15% were trained to detect mushrooms. You can put the cubensis powder into capsules and place them in a mushroom health supplement bottle. Those exist for things like reishi mushrooms. Many buyers would be willing to pay the premium for this.
Research chemicals (4-aco family, 2C family): Is anyone in the post office really trained to know what these are? Or even local law enforcement? I would just put them in capsules, plastic bag them, and label it as "energy supplement sampler" or something. You will find things like that on Ebay (but containing actual nutritional supplements).
Liquid THC mixed with coconut oil: I saw this and thought it looked pretty safe. People take both hemp oil and coconut oil for health reasons. Neither are illegal. The question is, can dogs tell the difference between THC laden oil and sterile hemp oil? I would doubt it. Even if they can, I have a feeling that if the packaging looked like a legit health supplement they would write it off as a false alarm and just pass it through.
How risky do you think these are compared to say, some ordinary vacuum sealed pot or hash?
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Dogs are typically trained for MDMA, Cocaine, Heroin, and cannabis. LSD is the safest simply because it fits into a normal envelope. I don't know what the point of this thread is though, all this is pretty well known.
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The point is to find what and how can be shipped with the least risk. Even something slightly less risky can be the difference between scot free and a ruined life.
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Safest thing is real pharmaceutical pills.
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Powdered RCs can be mailed in envelopes, too. ;)
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@laughingman,
LSD is not the safest because it is small in physical size, it is the safest because the substance is an extremely small quantity and that quantity produces nanogram, and single digit ng at that, amounts of odor particles.
And no, I do not think it is obvious what is what. The common sense methodology used by most people is often misguided. Did you know that dogs detect Cocaine much more easily than Weed? Cocaine has more of an odor than Weed, but we smell differently to electronic drug detectors and dogs, which creates a false impression.
@OP, there is a pdf (search for "[intel]" tag on forums) on here which describes the majority of popular drugs and their odor residues. In particular, one of the most valuable results was that you should be using HDPP plastic for vacuum packing, it makes a huge difference. The thread was called "geographical profiling tech" and the post with the link is by fizzy.
Also, the procedure used while packaging is very important too. There's another thread out there on this, but I forget the name of it.
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drug dogs really like the smell of cocaine ;D
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anabolic steroids, as they pose no real public danger and are safe. Here in Canada you can even legall possess them, but you cannot buy/sell them.
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@laughingman,
LSD is not the safest because it is small in physical size, it is the safest because the substance is an extremely small quantity and that quantity produces nanogram, and single digit ng at that, amounts of odor particles.
And no, I do not think it is obvious what is what. The common sense methodology used by most people is often misguided. Did you know that dogs detect Cocaine much more easily than Weed? Cocaine has more of an odor than Weed, but we smell differently to electronic drug detectors and dogs, which creates a false impression.
@OP, there is a pdf (search for "[intel]" tag on forums) on here which describes the majority of popular drugs and their odor residues. In particular, one of the most valuable results was that you should be using HDPP plastic for vacuum packing, it makes a huge difference. The thread was called "geographical profiling tech" and the post with the link is by fizzy.
Also, the procedure used while packaging is very important too. There's another thread out there on this, but I forget the name of it.
So is HDPP plastic essentially k9 proof till odors stop permeating?
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I think I found the whitepaper, called "The Development of an Optimized System of. Narcotic and Explosive Contraband Mimics for. Calibration and Training of Biological...". However I didn't see any data on the permeability of LSD odors. I could have missed it.
From the graphs, it doesn't look like anything will stop permeating. It decays down to a limit, which is often not that much lower than the initial rate. As I recall they got the response rate of the dogs down to around 20% using the HDPP vacuum sealing. It is much better than anything else.
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I am pretty positive no police dog in the world can smell LSD. Pharmaceutical pills if packaged right are very easy to get through...Small amounts of any drugs, even cannabis, if packaged right in a regular envelope can easily make it through. Just make your letter look and feel like the millions of other letters the post office deals with on a daily basis.