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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: PriscillaMarie90 on March 09, 2012, 02:52 pm
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We each come off the assembly line
With silver spoon in hand,
Our minds are chaste, pure and unaware
Of what the future's planned.
We are endowed by our creator
With certain unalienable rights,
As we grow, we begin to grasp
The importance of our plight.
We're taught in school to write and read
Our peers teach propriety,
Many truths, however, are well concealed
We're surrounded by dishonesty.
We are all subject to injustice
Another victim every day,
We're coming together clandestinely
Armed with knowledge, and unwilling to obey.
The revolution is inevitable
You will be forced to choose your side,
We are quickly assembling on the battlefield
You may choose to join us, or hide.
We are the children of freedom and liberty
Intent on fighting for what's rightfully ours,
We are a force to be reckoned with
Prepared to deal with the highest of powers.
Many remain blissfully ignorant
Disregarding the tyranny, oppression and deceit,
We were born to fight, even die for this cause
And we will never admit to defeat.
We are soldiers, and we bear no mark
Unnoticed, we watch and we wait,
We're ready to fall in line, are you?
Will you defend or give up on your fate?
This is my message, a nod to my comrades
Fellow martyrs for freedom, stay strong,
You are far from alone, don't be afraid
Once we win this war, we will finally belong.
I think it started out pretty well and then got shittier as I kept writing, LOL.
Just thought I would share.
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put the art pedal to the metal and howl you angelheaded hipsters!
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I'm like from the planet Bongo and I like come in peace man.
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Interesting. A young person's poem. At the other end of life, try Dylan Thomas:
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rage at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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What if the [perceived] incompetence and injustice of society is due to weakness and immaturity in the masculine aspects of culture?
The major cause of anger in the father relationship is the result of growing up with a father who had difficulty in communicating his love and in affirming his children. Misdirected father anger may be a contributing conflict in our schools and homes today. Many children who have intense father-anger present with conduct disorders, oppositional defiant disorders, attention-deficit/ hyperactivity disorders, and intermittent explosive disorders.
Lashing out with anger and violence may be a natural vent but ultimately that seems to be more masculine immaturity. Perhaps what is needed is to foster justice, responsibility, benevolence and other noble qualities of High masculine culture.
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What people fail to realize is that we are fighting a war of attrition and nothing else. As soon as the old conservatives die out (10-20 years max) everything we're striving for will happen organically.
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What people fail to realize is that we are fighting a war of attrition and nothing else. As soon as the old conservatives die out (10-20 years max) everything we're striving for will happen organically.
what are we striving for? this little community has bully-boy moderators and aristo-snobs and mindless mobs and a dictator whose character has yet to be determined other than he is a pirate and is making a butt-load of money by indiscriminately facilitating the sell of hard-drugs and guns. it's the nature of the beast. the only thing you can improve is you. and there's only so much that can be done. people are doomed. my money is on the machines.
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During my searches for terrestrial intelligence the psychotic ape known as "Human" has been most disappointing. Intelligence and consciousness seem to be fickle and fleeting in this beast; it occurs more as sparks than a sustained fire. Inspired by the poetic theme of this thread I offer the supposition: perhaps the monkey can not burn and it should strive for the day that all are looked over by machines of loving grace.
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Lashing out with anger and violence may be a natural vent but ultimately that seems to be more masculine immaturity. Perhaps what is needed is to foster justice, responsibility, benevolence and other noble qualities of High masculine culture.
Maybe so, but...
You could just as easily argue men have become more feminized over time and that this is the source of societal problems. Let's call it the Justin Bieber effect. If you look about in the West, you see that there are as many single parent families, where the mother is the sole provider/role model. Then the children go through school, and it is highly unlikely they will meet a male role model, very few teachers today are male. The first adult male role model they meet on a consistent basis is probably a priest or a policeman.
By feminization, I don't mean they become effeminate physically, I mean they think more like women since children, like the imprinting with ducks, are natural copiers of the adults around them. It makes men better relational thinkers, but poorer objective oriented thinkers. Then they are forced to compete with women, who, naturally, are far better at it by default. That is the reason for the growing grade gap between the sexes. 'Male intelligence', isn't being cultivated.
Take some of the common memes in American society today. The entire idea of being open, expressing your feelings, explaining your emotional state, going to a psychologist. Much of what makes men, men, has been pathologized by society. Now everybody has a 'mental health issue'. Now everybody can feel special. It's like Lake Wobegon, all the children are above average. If everybody is afflicted, then nobody is, the standard must have been bastardized. Nor do I feel the need to place bounds on this statement like "but some need help". Practically all of the psychotherapy industry and not a small part of the pharmacological industry is a giant fucking fraud. It's truly cringeworthy.
I don't believe for a second that women are less violent or less dangerous than men. It's just that they tend to utilize other men to do the deed, rather than act directly themselves, or use indirect means, which although non-violent, are certainly destructive, perhaps worse in many cases.
Lastly, the idea that violence is somehow unnatural or wrong, is simply amazing.
tldr; Pine has anger issues! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! Send in the paramedics! >:-)
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Lashing out with anger and violence may be a natural vent but ultimately that seems to be more masculine immaturity. Perhaps what is needed is to foster justice, responsibility, benevolence and other noble qualities of High masculine culture.
Maybe so, but...
You could just as easily argue men have become more feminized over time and that this is the source of societal problems. Let's call it the Justin Bieber effect. If you look about in the West, you see that there are as many single parent families, where the mother is the sole provider/role model. Then the children go through school, and it is highly unlikely they will meet a male role model, very few teachers today are male. The first adult male role model they meet on a consistent basis is probably a priest or a policeman.
By feminization, I don't mean they become effeminate physically, I mean they think more like women since children, like the imprinting with ducks, are natural copiers of the adults around them. It makes men better relational thinkers, but poorer objective oriented thinkers. Then they are forced to compete with women, who, naturally, are far better at it by default. That is the reason for the growing grade gap between the sexes. 'Male intelligence', isn't being cultivated.
Take some of the common memes in American society today. The entire idea of being open, expressing your feelings, explaining your emotional state, going to a psychologist. Much of what makes men, men, has been pathologized by society. Now everybody has a 'mental health issue'. Now everybody can feel special. It's like Lake Wobegon, all the children are above average. If everybody is afflicted, then nobody is, the standard must have been bastardized. Nor do I feel the need to place bounds on this statement like "but some need help". Practically all of the psychotherapy industry and not a small part of the pharmacological industry is a giant fucking fraud. It's truly cringeworthy.
I don't believe for a second that women are less violent or less dangerous than men. It's just that they tend to utilize other men to do the deed, rather than act directly themselves, or use indirect means, which although non-violent, are certainly destructive, perhaps worse in many cases.
Lastly, the idea that violence is somehow unnatural or wrong, is simply amazing.
tldr; Pine has anger issues! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! Send in the paramedics! >:-)
If something that doesn't fit was only imprinted superficially, perhaps that can be cleared to some degree and the natural structures and archetypal systems could be programmed/re-programmed with YOUR design as a conscious adult with access to all that culture and your experience and preferences have to offer.
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Lashing out with anger and violence may be a natural vent but ultimately that seems to be more masculine immaturity. Perhaps what is needed is to foster justice, responsibility, benevolence and other noble qualities of High masculine culture.
Maybe so, but...
You could just as easily argue men have become more feminized over time and that this is the source of societal problems. Let's call it the Justin Bieber effect. If you look about in the West, you see that there are as many single parent families, where the mother is the sole provider/role model. Then the children go through school, and it is highly unlikely they will meet a male role model, very few teachers today are male. The first adult male role model they meet on a consistent basis is probably a priest or a policeman.
By feminization, I don't mean they become effeminate physically, I mean they think more like women since children, like the imprinting with ducks, are natural copiers of the adults around them. It makes men better relational thinkers, but poorer objective oriented thinkers. Then they are forced to compete with women, who, naturally, are far better at it by default. That is the reason for the growing grade gap between the sexes. 'Male intelligence', isn't being cultivated.
Take some of the common memes in American society today. The entire idea of being open, expressing your feelings, explaining your emotional state, going to a psychologist. Much of what makes men, men, has been pathologized by society. Now everybody has a 'mental health issue'. Now everybody can feel special. It's like Lake Wobegon, all the children are above average. If everybody is afflicted, then nobody is, the standard must have been bastardized. Nor do I feel the need to place bounds on this statement like "but some need help". Practically all of the psychotherapy industry and not a small part of the pharmacological industry is a giant fucking fraud. It's truly cringeworthy.
I don't believe for a second that women are less violent or less dangerous than men. It's just that they tend to utilize other men to do the deed, rather than act directly themselves, or use indirect means, which although non-violent, are certainly destructive, perhaps worse in many cases.
Lastly, the idea that violence is somehow unnatural or wrong, is simply amazing.
tldr; Pine has anger issues! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! Send in the paramedics! >:-)
If something that doesn't fit was only imprinted superficially, perhaps that can be cleared to some degree and the natural structures and archetypal systems could be programmed/re-programmed with YOUR design as a conscious adult with access to all that culture and your experience and preferences have to offer.
A scenario similar to this occurs in myth. Two accounts that leap to mind are "The Widow's Son" from Freemasonry and "The Virgin Birth" (fatherless boy) from Christianity.
It is this central figure in the legend, this Hiram the "Widow's Son," the "Tyrian Architect," this 'First Grand Master' who is impersonated by every man who is initiated as a Master Mason.
If these males maintain a neutrality or a clean slate of sorts until they reach a level of development at which they can cast off the incompatible programming and create of themselves a modern man that has been idealized, designed and implemented to be a masterful human being of a new era, then that would be an extraordinary thing.
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If something that doesn't fit was only imprinted superficially, perhaps that can be cleared to some degree and the natural structures and archetypal systems could be programmed/re-programmed with YOUR design as a conscious adult with access to all that culture and your experience and preferences have to offer.
Of course, we not ducks, just like ducks. Natural imitators. We have potential to educate ourselves. The trouble with changing your mind, is if you've built up a network of associations in your brain related to the thing you want changed, then they are reinforcing the thing you want to remove. Which is why it's usually easier to think of a slightly different idea, instead of a completely different one. This is why weight loss programs don't work in the long term, why addicts remain so etc. People would rather die than change their minds on a whole range of issues. In fact they do. That's why you have to change your entire environment to begin again. I'm sure you notice people 'purge' themselves of certain things e.g. chopping up a boyfriend's photos, flushing a pack of cigarettes etc, throwing away clothes. It's a basic instinct. The bigger the change, the further you have to go.
Sudden sweeping changes are not in human nature, gradual evolutionary modification is. Even seemingly drastic changes are usually the result of a tortuously long process not immediately perceivable.
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If these males maintain a neutrality or a clean slate of sorts until they reach a level of development at which they can cast off the incompatible programming and create of themselves a modern man that has been idealized, designed and implemented to be a masterful human being of a new era, then that would be an extraordinary thing.
I don't intend this to be insulting, but this is a common theme in fascist and communist philosophies of the world. I've always found it interesting that there is highly destructive tendencies at work with 'new creations', led by the nose ring of utopian dreams.
New ideas are great, but a remarkably high number of them turn out to be junk e.g. the number of revolutions that generated more peaceful, wealthier, happier societies have been few indeed.
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If these males maintain a neutrality or a clean slate of sorts until they reach a level of development at which they can cast off the incompatible programming and create of themselves a modern man that has been idealized, designed and implemented to be a masterful human being of a new era, then that would be an extraordinary thing.
I don't intend this to be insulting, but this is a common theme in fascist and communist philosophies of the world. I've always found it interesting that there is highly destructive tendencies at work with 'new creations', led by the nose ring of utopian dreams.
New ideas are great, but a remarkably high number of them turn out to be junk e.g. the number of revolutions that generated more peaceful, wealthier, happier societies have been few indeed.
A myth isn't necessarily a map or recipe and what was offered was reference to myth. (A metaphor isn't a component on the motherboard). Some might find it interesting and informative to imagine that within the species and races that there might be organically evolved, multi-generational archetypal scenarios [behavior systems, lifestyles and social environments] that create Types of people, some of which are extraordinary and some are evolutionary singularities in their degree of self-design.
A community of (shaman-alchemist) researchers and explorers assembling a knowledge-base of human reprogramming potentials and methods might be interesting.
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For now we see but a poor reflection as through a glass, darkly.
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New ideas are great, but a remarkably high number of them turn out to be junk e.g. the number of revolutions that generated more peaceful, wealthier, happier societies have been few indeed.
So you have realized or are beginning to realize that evolution is slow and reckless and inefficient and produces mostly horrors and fuck-ups and ...
Welcome to the party sister.
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Sudden sweeping changes are not in human nature, gradual evolutionary modification is. Even seemingly drastic changes are usually the result of a tortuously long process not immediately perceivable.
maybe you just haven't been properly motivated yet
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A myth isn't necessarily a map or recipe and what was offered was reference to myth. (A metaphor isn't a component on the motherboard). Some might find it interesting and informative to imagine that within the species and races that there might be organically evolved, multi-generational archetypal scenarios [behavior systems, lifestyles and social environments] that create Types of people, some of which are extraordinary and some are evolutionary singularities in their degree of self-design.
Beyond the naturally occurring scenarios that shape people, there is also a history of active design. Archaic peoples would act out their myths. Many peoples engage in ritual mutilation, tattooing, scaring and other traumatic initiations. Modern peoples still perform circumcision on infants without anesthesia. Mercifully, eunuchs are no longer created. In modern (Western) culture there are groups and individuals, professional and freelance, that engage in a variety of "transformational" practices.
A Judo-like approach utilizing the underlying architecture that is already present may be a very effective technique.
A community of (shaman-alchemist) researchers and explorers assembling a knowledge-base of human reprogramming potentials and methods might be interesting.
There are free independent competent adults who wish to expand themselves and/or re-engineer themselves. The technology is dangerous but important. The risks can be mitigated with careful planning.
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There are free independent competent adults who wish to expand themselves and/or re-engineer themselves. The technology is dangerous but important. The risks can be mitigated with careful planning.
I would like to have access to some kind of mechanical ventilation system like a CPAP or VPAP machine and various polysomnography equipment like EEG, ECG, EOG, EMG, etc. Stephen LaBerge has started some interesting work in lucid dreaming research but they don't use "chemical assists".
EDIT: forgot to say that I would share my data and experiences with a group of underground researchers.