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Title: i'm shitting blood
Post by: rise_against on March 03, 2012, 07:54 am
for reals, last couple days its like a bloodbath in the fucking toilet.   i take opiates everyday and am always constipated. TMI, i know.  hopefully its only hemorrhoids.  if i die, it was nice knowing you all.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: markwest on March 03, 2012, 08:22 am
are you in america? the health system in america being what it is i hear so much about clear cut hospital trips being passed over.

is it bright red blood like from a cut? or is it congealed (hard to tell with shit mixed in obviously..) bright red gushing blood means you nicked something in youre arse, a sharp piece of food that didnt get digested ect. congealed blood means you have internal bleeding somewhere more serious. both should really be checked out by a doctor, the latter more so, but if there is a lot of blood then its a concern, plus arse cuts have a tendency to get infected.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: funkynuts321 on March 03, 2012, 09:27 am
Rise, I would definitely go get this checked out- especially since you described it as a "blood bath" the past few bowel movements you have had. Medically, the brighter the blood is the closer it is to the anus. If it is darker then it is higher up inside your GI track. Typically if it is bright red then it is hemorrhoid related however it could be anything from diverticulitis to an anal fissure depending on what color the blood actually is. Either way something is going on internally and you never want to fuck around when it comes to that. See a doctor bro, protect yourself.

I too use opiates and counteract my bowel movements with plenty of water, fruit and fiber in order to keep things healthy. Keeping your GI tract healthy when using opiates is key. I'd also take a few days break if I were you, possibly even a week or several if you can. Your body is definitely telling you something- you need to listen. 
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: Oldtoker on March 03, 2012, 09:44 am
I agree with the others.  Stop and hit the reset switch.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: DigitalAlch on March 03, 2012, 10:07 am
Good luck, I wish you a speedy recovery.

~Digi
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: jimnator on March 03, 2012, 01:37 pm
Happened to me too when I used Adderall for 2 weeks straight. I talked to a doctor about it and he told me that this drug depresses the intestinal musculature and that I need a drug which stimulates the contraction is musculature.

He told me to get Bisacodyl or liquid Paraffin Syrup.


As well as, I planned to try Oxy this week only once, will I get fucking constipated for only one time?
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: microRNA on March 03, 2012, 04:03 pm
generally I think this is one of those seek professional medical attention as soon as possible situations. i hope you are alright.

and as for oxy slowing everything down, it definitely will to some extent as the opiates are one of the best at reducing gut motility. I wouldnt think that one dose would have major effects since it will only be reduced about eight to twelve hours.

Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: funkynuts321 on March 03, 2012, 06:33 pm
Happened to me too when I used Adderall for 2 weeks straight. I talked to a doctor about it and he told me that this drug depresses the intestinal musculature and that I need a drug which stimulates the contraction is musculature.

He told me to get Bisacodyl or liquid Paraffin Syrup.


As well as, I planned to try Oxy this week only once, will I get fucking constipated for only one time?

I took a few Oxy's earlier this week as well and they did not effect me constipation wise very badly at all. I took about 20-25 mg's each time and woke up the next morning without any foggy symptoms, urinary or gi issues at all. Gave me quite a bit of gas which is to be expected, however I was able to use the bathroom fine and there were no signs of blood (actual or dried) when I had a bowel movement. Remember, I cannot stress hydration enough. Once I come down and get ready for bed I'll take two fiber pills and if I feel too bloated a stool softener to be on the safe side- of course this also depends on how many mg's of hydrocodone or oxy's that I take.

If this is your first time taking Oxy you should be fine.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: jimnator on March 03, 2012, 06:40 pm
Happened to me too when I used Adderall for 2 weeks straight. I talked to a doctor about it and he told me that this drug depresses the intestinal musculature and that I need a drug which stimulates the contraction is musculature.

He told me to get Bisacodyl or liquid Paraffin Syrup.


As well as, I planned to try Oxy this week only once, will I get fucking constipated for only one time?

I took a few Oxy's earlier this week as well and they did not effect me constipation wise very badly at all. I took about 20-25 mg's each time and woke up the next morning without any foggy symptoms, urinary or gi issues at all. Gave me quite a bit of gas which is to be expected, however I was able to use the bathroom fine and there were no signs of blood (actual or dried) when I had a bowel movement. Remember, I cannot stress hydration enough. Once I come down and get ready for bed I'll take two fiber pills and if I feel too bloated a stool softener to be on the safe side- of course this also depends on how many mg's of hydrocodone or oxy's that I take.

If this is your first time taking Oxy you should be fine.

Thanks for the info, yea i just plan to pop one 10 or 15 mg oxy.

@OP just continue to eat alot of fiber and get the products i said above, worked great for me, but you need a script so tell your doctor
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: mseller on March 03, 2012, 06:56 pm
OP
If you have black stool, then its serious and go to the MD.
Some bright red traces can cause hemeroids as you are constipated and have a hard stool.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: mito on March 03, 2012, 08:18 pm
If you're constipated then your forcing the anus (external sphincter) while trying to shit.   That's bad, even worse if you're sitting in a toilet.   That fucks up the whole area.

Our body wasn't designed to shit while seated, but to squat.

Add spicy food and a poor diet with little or no fibers to the mix and situation only gets worse.

Also, toilet paper irritates the anus (if you apply too much force to wipe), use baby wipes and/or simply wash with water after #2.


My family has a history of hemorrhoids.  Three things in sequence fuck me up:   if I eat too much spicy food, drink too much alchool and sit continuosly for many hours in front of a computer, then I'll be menstruating through my ass the following day after #2.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: sourman on March 03, 2012, 09:14 pm
Sounds like the opiates are hardening your poo, causing it to cut up your asshole (anal fissures) or rupture preexisting hemorrhoids. Bright red blood is usually a good indicator of this. Don't panic, but make sure you get it checked out by a doctor ASAP.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: quinone on March 04, 2012, 12:42 am
mmm lactulose (any opiate user w/ constipation knows what i'm talking).

You should always seek help when blood in urine or feces, but specifically feces.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: jpisbetterthanme on March 04, 2012, 01:02 am
Are you *shitting blood* or are you *wiping blood* ? Big difference. What another poster said about bright vs. dark red is accurate - Brighter red = closer to exit.

Remember that really any amount of blood in the stool looks like a friggin' bloodbath if you've never seen it before. If you keep that in mind and you decide you aren't exaggerating, that you really are having a BLOODBATH, go to a hospital like now.

BUT . . . The constipation caused by opiates (or just plain old poor diet) can cause the bright red blood.

Another question to ask yourself - is there pain? Is it outside? Inside? If it's pain in your butt, and you are wiping blood, and it's bright red, that's classic hemorrhoid symptoms. If it's pain in your "guts" and you are shitting blood and it's dark red, that's a sign of internal injury and can be a medical emergency. 
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: tr1llee on March 04, 2012, 01:04 am
First of all, you can have internal bleeding so you should probably visit the dr.  If you choose not to:
Okay, so diet can be really important when you're doing opiates because they can cause constipation.  So, what I would say is start by getting a good amount of fiber into your system.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: smokeninja on March 04, 2012, 05:15 am
 :-[
Go see the doctor ASAP

please
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: tcobambientAgain on March 04, 2012, 07:39 am
Sorry.  Every time I see this thread all I can think about is Slayer doing a remake of "Raining Blood" 
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: tcobambientAgain on March 04, 2012, 07:48 am
But seriously, I've had multiple surgeries and my last shoulder surgery about a year ago (pre and post surgery) I was on percs for over a year and I'd shit blood on occassion because it's really difficult to take a shit at times when on opiates.  Especially, A LOT of opiates.  You just need to get some stool softeners and don't strain.  Don't force your shit out (sorry, that sounds horrible).  You're probably fine but you need to just relax. 
I'm really high right now but I hope this helps.  Stool softener is your friend.   

Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: tcobambientAgain on March 04, 2012, 07:51 am
My fucking karma should be off the charts right now after my last post.   I just talked about helping someone take a shit.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: tcobambientAgain on March 04, 2012, 07:53 am
Goddamn, I amuse myself. 
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: Mecajesus on March 04, 2012, 09:50 am
Good luck, I wish you a speedy recovery.

~Digi
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: Bud on March 04, 2012, 01:57 pm
lol
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: Gary Oak on March 04, 2012, 02:36 pm
You should give a shit about your shit bro, if you're menstruating out of your ass you should get that checked out by a doctor asap.  :o
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: funkynuts321 on March 04, 2012, 02:44 pm
My fucking karma should be off the charts right now after my last post.   I just talked about helping someone take a shit.

LMAO. Yeah no "shit".
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: boxer on March 04, 2012, 06:53 pm
It must be the subject er...matter, but this is what popped into my noggin:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M17aG_Po2Y

Seriously, I hope you are ok.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: Gary Oak on March 05, 2012, 01:47 am
It must be the subject er...matter, but this is what popped into my noggin:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M17aG_Po2Y

Seriously, I hope you are ok.

I know this is no time to be laughing, but I honestly thought of that video as well.  ;D

Any updates from Mr. Glass-Ass yet?
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: rise_against on March 05, 2012, 08:18 am
still shitting blood!   better than shitting bricks, i guess.  feels like it tho.  maybe i just need a good ol' fashioned buttfucking to help loosen my ass up!


i gave you a +karma tcobambientAgain
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: markwest on March 05, 2012, 08:52 am
oh ffs just go to a doctor.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: 2012NewTimes2012 on March 05, 2012, 11:07 pm
for reals, last couple days its like a bloodbath in the fucking toilet.   i take opiates everyday and am always constipated. TMI, i know.  hopefully its only hemorrhoids.  if i die, it was nice knowing you all.

Hey, dude---all seriousness...when you say "Shitting Blood"--is it like you cut yourself and blood is draining out, or is it like when you wipe your ass you just see blood on the paper? If you just see blood on the paper--that's just Hemorrhoids...not much to worry about.

However, if you're shitting blood...like it's coming out your ass in the same manner like if you were pissing it out...that's serious shit. ---means a variety of things...Could be your Intestines, could be your stomach, other internal organs.  You need to see a Doc for that. (if nothing else---"losing blood"---can cause all kinds of problems including death)
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: pine on March 05, 2012, 11:19 pm
To echo what some of the others have said:

 - More fibre in your diet (just change your breakfast to fruit and branflakes, eat more nice fresh bread from a bakery)

Also, it is normal when you are in a job which requires a lot of sitting down, being stationary most of the day etc, in combination with significant amounts of stress to have this effect. I forget the medical jargon, but that's about the size of it.

 - drink camomile tea, have a nice hot relaxing bath.

Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: rise_against on March 06, 2012, 04:58 am
for reals, last couple days its like a bloodbath in the fucking toilet.   i take opiates everyday and am always constipated. TMI, i know.  hopefully its only hemorrhoids.  if i die, it was nice knowing you all.

Hey, dude---all seriousness...when you say "Shitting Blood"--is it like you cut yourself and blood is draining out, or is it like when you wipe your ass you just see blood on the paper? If you just see blood on the paper--that's just Hemorrhoids...not much to worry about.

However, if you're shitting blood...like it's coming out your ass in the same manner like if you were pissing it out...that's serious shit. ---means a variety of things...Could be your Intestines, could be your stomach, other internal organs.  You need to see a Doc for that. (if nothing else---"losing blood"---can cause all kinds of problems including death)

its a lot of blood on the paper. thoroughly soaked. it's not like its blood gushing out of my ass, so you're right, it's probably just hemmorhoids.  Now i'm going to start doing ketamine, so i should also be pissing blood sometime soon as well!
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: quinone on March 06, 2012, 08:04 am
Even if it is hemhroids, it depends on how deep in they are.  You can injure your rectum all the way up large intestine (which is very rare)

Basic hemhroids are nothing, but they do become more dangeous the deeper you are and may they've provided an area of soft tissue very susceptible to infection.  Not to mention that a doctor will be able to determine how far up and where the bleed is and be able to tell you then and now.  If your fine go home, or if 'we need to run more tests' (which SUCKS, but catching a disease especially if early enough make a huge difference in treating it then thats still better then dying :D

I would again suggest a doctor, but had this been just a week ago I wouldh't have made anything of it pawning it off as a fluke bad diet flue.  Now that it' been an 'alarming' time judging by your explanation though, I really think you should see a doc.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: rise_against on March 06, 2012, 08:37 am
i'll take my chances with the grim reaper. nothing worth living for anyways.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: foxymeow on March 06, 2012, 04:43 pm
I love drugs and all but I don't think I would want to take anything that fucked up my body so much that I was shitting blood.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: Bartsamson on March 06, 2012, 04:52 pm


I took a few Oxy's earlier this week as well and they did not effect me constipation wise very badly at all. I took about 20-25 mg's each time and woke up the next morning without any foggy symptoms, urinary or gi issues at all. Gave me quite a bit of gas which is to be expected, however I was able to use the bathroom fine and there were no signs of blood (actual or dried) when I had a bowel movement. Remember, I cannot stress hydration enough. Once I come down and get ready for bed I'll take two fiber pills and if I feel too bloated a stool softener to be on the safe side- of course this also depends on how many mg's of hydrocodone or oxy's that I take.

If this is your first time taking Oxy you should be fine.
[/quote]           Why Did you mention gas bein a given after doing oxy
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: jpisbetterthanme on March 06, 2012, 05:17 pm
i'll take my chances with the grim reaper. nothing worth living for anyways.

:(

Shitting and pissing blood = terrible way to go . . .
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: dunk on March 06, 2012, 06:57 pm
Sounds like it might just be roids. Opiate use can definitely result in that kind of thing, as I know from personal experience. They should heal up after a while.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: funkynuts321 on March 06, 2012, 07:23 pm


I took a few Oxy's earlier this week as well and they did not effect me constipation wise very badly at all. I took about 20-25 mg's each time and woke up the next morning without any foggy symptoms, urinary or gi issues at all. Gave me quite a bit of gas which is to be expected, however I was able to use the bathroom fine and there were no signs of blood (actual or dried) when I had a bowel movement. Remember, I cannot stress hydration enough. Once I come down and get ready for bed I'll take two fiber pills and if I feel too bloated a stool softener to be on the safe side- of course this also depends on how many mg's of hydrocodone or oxy's that I take.

If this is your first time taking Oxy you should be fine.
           Why Did you mention gas bein a given after doing oxy
[/quote]

Usually the case with all opiates considering it relaxes your stomach muscles, which is part of why it's so hard to use the restroom. I usually get a buildup of gas when I take them, nothing major but I do have the farts the next morning- I doubt this is exclusive to me as it's usually a pretty common symptom.
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: lardsandwiches on March 06, 2012, 07:26 pm
SEE A DOCTOR, THIS COULD BE DANGEROUS!!!

Two years ago I had the same problem, only it was blood on my bowel movements.  It wasn't a lot, just a streak or two.  I was checked for hemorrhoids and they found nothing.   I insisted on getting a colonscopy and after several visits to the doctor they finally consented.  I had a precancerous polyp removed and haven't had a problem since.

If it is hemorrhoids, then a simple digital rectal exam should do the trick. 
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: jpisbetterthanme on March 06, 2012, 07:30 pm
^ What he said.

Remember the lessons taught to Navin Johnson by his Dad in The Jerk:
-Lord loves a workin' man
-Don't trust Whitey
-See a doctor and get rid of it

As always, be smart, be sane, be safe ..
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: wowzers on March 07, 2012, 01:42 am
This is all over UK TV at the moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMmTR05Nbqo

obvs a serious topic but the blokes voice is priceless "blood in your poo?"  ;D
Title: Re: i'm shitting blood
Post by: rise_against on March 07, 2012, 04:38 am
my grandmother had rectal cancer.