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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: bbbbb55555 on February 21, 2012, 04:14 pm

Title: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: bbbbb55555 on February 21, 2012, 04:14 pm
right now the seller vicodin is selling 1 10mg/325 norco for over 12 dollars. Are you kidding me, who is buying these. street value is anywhere from 2 dollars to 6 depending on location,scarcity, and if bulk or not.

im just saying all this guys prices are completely insane. 12 dollars for an xanax bar, are you telling me people are actually still buying from this guy???7 bucks for a 5mg valium, 5mg!! 

i know this is a business and all it will be more expensive then street prices because theirs less chance of getting caught on here plus its safer with the shipping then going to a shitty side of town, but damn. 12 dollars for a 3 dollar pill. why would i spend 36 dollars on 3 norcos when i can get a 30mg oxycodone for 30 bucks(again way above street price but not near as inflated as others) makes no sense
why would i buy 3 percocets (10mg oxycodone 325 apa) for 16 a piece. thats roughly 48 dollars per 30 mg, when i can buy 1 30 mg oxycodone for 30 bucks and not have all the apap...  see  what i mean? none of this is adding up
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: ZanMan12 on February 21, 2012, 04:24 pm
I thought the same about that at first but they're actually some good dealers here with reasonable prices. Just stay away from those "insanely overpriced" vendors.  Look and ask around the forums for the good ones.
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: bbbbb55555 on February 21, 2012, 10:09 pm
what do you mean? are their secret vendors? i look at all the products for sale and see no others. if so hit me up with some good vendors thru private message right now. right now i pretty much only deal thru pharmville because their prices are best from what i see
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: johnhamil90 on February 21, 2012, 10:42 pm
I was pretty shocked at first myself. Some of the prices are outrageous.
But as you dig around more and more there are vendors I've seen that as you order more towards the bulk side of things the products definitely are street price. Have a looksie I guess. Sometimes it's fun to just carouse through the listings.
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: psy101 on February 21, 2012, 10:54 pm
why would i spend 36 dollars on 3 norcos when i can get a 30mg oxycodone for 30 bucks(again way above street price but not near as inflated as others) makes no sense

Simple answer is - Don't bother using a mail order service and get it on the street...

Where I'm at, I can't get coke over 10-20% pure for love nor money...Here I can get it delivered to my door, yes the price is high...but for the illegal drugs on here, you really do get what you pay for. I was considering a trip to South America just to see what decent coke was like, I've since spent my Plane Ticket on SR  ;D
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: bbbbb55555 on February 21, 2012, 11:19 pm
why would i spend 36 dollars on 3 norcos when i can get a 30mg oxycodone for 30 bucks(again way above street price but not near as inflated as others) makes no sense

Simple answer is - Don't bother using a mail order service and get it on the street...

Where I'm at, I can't get coke over 10-20% pure for love nor money...Here I can get it delivered to my door, yes the price is high...but for the illegal drugs on here, you really do get what you pay for. I was considering a trip to South America just to see what decent coke was like, I've since spent my Plane Ticket on SR  ;D


no no no man, lol i realize im not going to get it at street price on here. and im willing to pay extra for the conveience of not having to go thru some shady guy in some shit end of town. Im just saying that certain drugs are outrageous on here compared to others. Like most benzos are pretty close to street price on here. but you go into opiates and its 35 dollars per 30 mg oxy. im like ok well thats double what a dealer usually sells for. then i see norcos at over 12 bucks... thats quadruple what a dealer usually sells. Some vendors are much better then others but right now vicodin has a monopoly on the Norco trade and im just seeing why there isnt more vendors selling those. It would cause price competition. Im especially curious because Norcos are way easier to get your hands on then oxy so why is no one selling norcos?

i am not saying i expect street prices. but damn for the price of one norco on here i can buy 3-6 on the street. its almost worth the risk of bust or jacking that sometimes comes with deals
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: gtg424 on February 22, 2012, 12:56 am
Yeah we need more vendor competition in some categories, monopolies aren't good for business.  I don't personally buy painkillers, but 4X street price is pretty ridiculous. 
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: midas on February 22, 2012, 02:56 am
What makes the price high?

-A SR seller is not some thug from the street. He's not gonna work for 5 bucks/hour
-SR fees. For what I understand, commission is something like 10 to 15% for low price products. Not to count escrow.
-Delivery. Seller has to spend time and money to go to the post office.

SR need more competition. A seller could have a minimum order to decrease price. A lot of hassle to sell a few 2 usd pills?

I have a friend who works at a pharmacy and it is pretty easy to obtain prescription medication around here. Maybe I'm talking bullshit about US case.
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: pine on February 22, 2012, 03:11 am
All of the reasons mentioned in the thread are valid reasons I think, but the underlying reason right now is mostly the fact that there is giant disparities in the global drug market to begin with. The drug market is not flat at all. It's mountains and gulleys. Which makes for excellent arbitrage opportunities for intelligent sellers in the right place and time.

It's not like selling pencils or coffee. A drug can cost 2-3x more between two different states in the U.S and this is not unusual.

You'll notice there's a 'over-representation' of Australians, New Zealanders, Scandinavians here on the Silk Road. That's because in their countries, all the drugs on the Silk Road are practically half price in comparison to their streets.
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: supersecretsquirrel on February 22, 2012, 06:11 am
right now the seller vicodin is selling 1 10mg/325 norco for over 12 dollars. Are you kidding me, who is buying these. street value is anywhere from 2 dollars to 6 depending on location,scarcity, and if bulk or not.

You pay extra for the added layer of security, the option to be almost anonymous, never have to visit shady streets in your home town and so on. Whether all this gives you a false sense of protection or security is a discussion we can save for another time.
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: gtg424 on February 22, 2012, 06:20 am


You pay extra for the added layer of security, the option to be almost anonymous, never have to visit shady streets in your home town and so on. Whether all this gives you a false sense of protection or security is a discussion we can save for another time.

At the same time, marijuana is selling on SR for little above street/market value, proving that the "security" premium will drop as the number of vendors increase.  I think the issue here is that there aren't enough painkiller vendors to compete with each other and so buyers have to pay a monopoly premium, rather than a security premium. 
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: PriscillaMarie90 on February 22, 2012, 06:21 am
It's a rip-off, but as long as people keep buying them, they will continue to sell for 10 bucks a pop. We ought to boycott, lol.
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: purifiedwater on February 22, 2012, 10:16 am
I don't understand who the hell keeps buying hydro from Vicodin when Pharmville is selling oxy for cheaper.

I gotta admit I wouldn't mind buying hydro's if they were sanely priced (as in... cheaper than OXY for fucks sake).

Doesn't make any goddamn sense.
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: TheHoodScientist on February 22, 2012, 12:28 pm
I think if we all took a college level Microeconomics course, this would make perfect sense. For example, you have cannabis on here, a plant. In some parts of the US and Canada, cannabis is practically legal, and a nearly limitless supply exists. Suppliers increase their supply continuously to keep the market demand saturated. However, because this substance is being "manufactured" semi-legally and there is a massive amount of competition, the price on here is considerably lower than other drugs, because sellers will continue to undercut one another until the equilibrium price is reached.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_equilibrium

That probably didn't answer your questions yet, but let me keep going. So when you look at benzos for example, there is a very similar situation. In some parts of the world (mostly middle eastern countries) benzos are highly unregulated, and in the US they are lower scheduled drugs (3-4 I believe but don't quote me on that). Therefore, they are significantly more available, and if people are smuggling them from these legal countries, the supply is once again "limitless". However, because they are considerably harder to get and there are stiffer legal penalties, the price is artificially inflated because of the lower number of competitors. Now I think you all know where I am going with this. Opiates are HIGHLY regulated worldwide and thus significantly harder to source on a consistent basis. When these sellers are selling, say for example, oxycodone, they are smart enough to know that there supply is fairly limited (although "limited" in this sense could still be hundreds or thousands of doses) so it is in there best economic interest to sell these to "the highest bidder" even though this is not an auction per se. Basically, it is in their best economic interest to sit on whatever stock of these limited drugs for a longer period of time and wait for people to pay the artificially high price than to drop the price and flood the market, because they cannot simply just "get more". Again, the competition thing factors in massively here as does the legal penalities. Simply look up the "bulk amounts" table and sentencing guidelines for your state/country and this all fits the pattern I have laid out. Opiates are SERIOUS FELONIES for even small quantities (e.g. 15+ tablets) vs cannabis or even benzos that require an order of magnitude larger amount to receive the same penalty. Nobody wants to risk several years in prison (yes this is a reality sadly) for possession and distribution of something only worth hundreds or even thousands of dollars, leading to its relative scarcity. Factor this and the convenience, escrow, crypto-anonymity etc. and this makes 100% total sense. "Streets" are a relative term and follow a very similar albeit different economic pattern that I won't get into. Also, psychedelics follow a totally different distribution scheme due to their clandestine manufacture, so I will avoid their discussion as well. Just my 2 cents. :)
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: bbbbb55555 on February 22, 2012, 03:48 pm
I don't understand who the hell keeps buying hydro from Vicodin when Pharmville is selling oxy for cheaper.

I gotta admit I wouldn't mind buying hydro's if they were sanely priced (as in... cheaper than OXY for fucks sake).

Doesn't make any goddamn sense.

this is my thoughts exactly
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: eurobilly on February 24, 2012, 02:00 am
I have a new solid supply, but am still working on some shipping and vendor account setup issues. Once I get the BTC arranged to fund the vendor account fee, I will be offering the following (prices do not include a small shipping charge, any SR fees, or fluctuations due to BTC exchange rates):

~*^THE SPECKLES!!^*~
Hydrocodone/APAP - 10/500 (Lortab/Norco/Lorcet/Vicodin generic)
#5= $45
#10= $80
#50= $350
#100= $600
#500= $2500
#1000 (Sealed Mfg Bottle)= $4000

Alprazolam 2mg Bars (Xanax generic)
#5= $25
#10= $45
#50= $200
#100= $350
#500 (Sealed Mfg Bottle)= $1500

Clonazepam 2mg (Klonopin generic)
#5= $12.5
#10= $22.5
#50= $100
#100= $175
#500 (Sealed Mfg Bottle)= $750


Holler at me if you have any requests or questions while I get to full steam.
Title: Re: wow, why can we not get norcos for anywhere close to a street price?
Post by: lightonion on February 24, 2012, 03:49 am
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