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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: thesilence981 on February 19, 2012, 04:25 am
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so i just told an aquaitance of mine about the lovely Road, not sure if a did a good thing..
whats everyones thoughts on this?
keep it small or let it grow
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See...I'm still new, so my opinion doesn't really matter :P
But I was told about the site by a friend of mine about a month ago. So I'm, by default, pro growth.
Some growth is definitely a good thing. But from what I've read this place has already grown exponentially in a small period of time. I think I remember reading that it has over 10,000 members now? That's a pretty big deal when you consider what 90% of the business on here is for. ::)
At the same time...maybe too much growth could be a bad thing. If traffic to the site was growing at an alarming rate, I'm sure there would be some way to spot it. I don't think LE is too concerned with SR right now because it isn't really too HUGE of a problem yet.
Then again, I'm a newbie so what do I know? :P
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Over 10,000?! ;D
If you go by UserID it has about 170,000. Taken to account that many have 2 or more accounts, that means around 85K users.
Even a smaller concurrent site has about 45,000 (22.5K under same logic).
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so i just told an aquaitance of mine about the lovely Road, not sure if a did a good thing..
whats everyones thoughts on this?
keep it small or let it grow
NO!! The more people the more chances of shit going on wrong. SR is already getting out in the mainstream media and I'm afraid it's just a matter of time before shit get's fucked up.
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so i just told an aquaitance of mine about the lovely Road, not sure if a did a good thing..
whats everyones thoughts on this?
keep it small or let it grow
NO!! The more people the more chances of shit going on wrong. SR is already getting out in the mainstream media and I'm afraid it's just a matter of time before shit get's fucked up.
bah, rubbish....
did shutting down napster stop the music liberation movement? our side is gonna win the drug war.
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I don't have an answer for you. a place like this can only grow.
the only reason I'm responding is because, OP, I really like your handle :D :D the silence are awesome. I hope it is a reference to dr. who. because that show just flat out kicks ass. 8) 8)
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Yea so I was way off. Hence the words 'I think'...and the disclaimer that I'm a noon and don't know anything. 170,000 is Mega!
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did shutting down napster stop the music liberation movement? our side is gonna win the drug war.
no war can be won. we just must not play their game.. we are not fighters.. and we are not a legion.. not an army..
we are creators.. anant-garde.. so we should design our own rules, own game, create and live in a different brave new world..
no conscious effort is required.. it'll find it's way according to the higher will...
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No. You dont need 2 people in the same area getting the same stuff. Just share.
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Personally as a vendor, i say no.
I know i can speak for a few vendors here when i say that the site growing so fast + the media attention is worrying for us.
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There is a good side and a bad side to telling others about the Silk Road. The bad side is it will bring more scammers and probably more LEO. But the good side is, the larger our community is at the time "The Man" tries to take us down, the harder it will be for them. Then again, if we become a community of bad people and scammers, LEO would probably use that to turn the uneducated masses against us in the end... But I don't really know, I feel like we do a pretty good job here of weeding out the stupid people. Especially with our escrow system, if people would use it.
I don't tell everyone I know about the Silk Road, but I've introduced a few people who I'm close to. I don't think you should put up fliers around town advertising our existence, but I don't think it should be kept a secret either. Moderation is a word used alot here, lol.. I think the same applies in this case...
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I think the time of the lone-operating vendor is nearly over. Vendors are going to have to run as organised corporations if they are going to be able to cope with the increasing demand. Individuals aren't going to be able to fulfill 100+ separate orders per day, and they won't be able to compete on pricing/quality if they place limits on their demand.
In answer to your question, I think we should spread the word. Anyone who disagrees is either a vendor who sees the above as a problem, or buyers who are irrationally scared that growth will end this experiment.
The real Achilles heel of the Silk Road is its reliance on Bitcoin and in turn Bitcoin's reliance on Banks and other major corporations to facilitate its exchange to major currencies. The exchange of Bitcoin could easily be made illegal under the pretense of Money laundering uses etc.
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My rule is if they can't figure out Tor and bitcoins on their own then i don't assist.
The market with regulate itself based on the will and intelligence level of the people.
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did shutting down napster stop the music liberation movement? our side is gonna win the drug war.
no war can be won. we just must not play their game.. we are not fighters.. and we are not a legion.. not an army..
we are creators.. anant-garde.. so we should design our own rules, own game, create and live in a different brave new world..
no conscious effort is required.. it'll find it's way according to the higher will...
You're on LSD right? ...no wait... PCP? ...Ketamine?
Or are you just plain robotrippin like the good old days?
;-)
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Did someone say PCP? :P
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so i just told an aquaitance of mine about the lovely Road, not sure if a did a good thing..
whats everyones thoughts on this?
keep it small or let it grow
A. hand out details of SR to whoever asks for it
help anyone that asks how to get onto Tor or SR...
B. let just your friends know about SR ?!
use common sense...
- my acquaintances are simply that acquaintances...not to be trusted with much...
- friends, very few of them can be trusted all of the time....
- you are indirectly responsible for the acquaintances and type of people you bring here in my opinion.
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I think the time of the lone-operating vendor is nearly over. Vendors are going to have to run as organised corporations if they are going to be able to cope with the increasing demand. Individuals aren't going to be able to fulfill 100+ separate orders per day, and they won't be able to compete on pricing/quality if they place limits on their demand.
In answer to your question, I think we should spread the word. Anyone who disagrees is either a vendor who sees the above as a problem, or buyers who are irrationally scared that growth will end this experiment.
The real Achilles heel of the Silk Road is its reliance on Bitcoin and in turn Bitcoin's reliance on Banks and other major corporations to facilitate its exchange to major currencies. The exchange of Bitcoin could easily be made illegal under the pretense of Money laundering uses etc.
Agreed. It's going to be like Ebay where there are some corporations operating alongside indivdual sellers.
I fully expect that LEO will try and shut down Bitcoin. However, the response of the community will be to evolve even further out of reach. And it will be pretty easy too. All the buyers want Bitcoins and all the sellers want cash, supply and demand are perfectly met.
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I've mentioned it to a few people, but only in the sense of "I heard this story on NPR a while back about this place that was like an ebay for drugs, silk palace, no, silk road or something like that. Those crazy computer nerds, they even invented their own currency so they could trade anonymously! Bitcoin I think."
i.e. Just enough to plant a seed of curiosity.
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I think if it become too mainstream and well known the delivery companys would start to catch on and get really hot on checking packages imo.
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so i just told an aquaitance of mine about the lovely Road, not sure if a did a good thing..
whats everyones thoughts on this?
keep it small or let it grow
Grow Pros
More people
More packages
Drugs more widely accepted
Less chances of your particular package getting INT'd
More products on SR
Grow Cons
More cops
More scammers
More bad press
More idiots
I don't really care either way.
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I don't think there's any harm in telling your trusted friends and acquaintances about it, particularly if they, too, engage in the occasional unsanctioned chemical adventure - but do it in such a way that you're just passing on some knowledge that SR exists, not that you've ever actually bought or sold anything on the market. IMHO, it's fine that more people know that SR exists, but what any of us actually do or do not do here - well, that's nobody's business but our own.
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I'm certainly going to turn close friends on to SR, the ones I think could benefit from it and use it safely...
But I'm not about to start blogging about it or anything.
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I think if it become too mainstream and well known the delivery companys would start to catch on and get really hot on checking packages imo.
i would be surprised unless they were in some way forced or incentivised as getting really 'hot on checking' would cost them a fortune.
am no expert though. still to make my first purchase. got my btc now though so lets go shopping! :-)
on the original question about spreading the word - i heard about this in mainstream media and managed to find it all pretty easily which does suggest the genie might already be out of the bottle... still wouldnt go shouting my mouth off about it tho
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OP here
pretty divided in here on this issue, suprising
id like to hear from a mod on this issue, i suspect they may say go ahead and let people know..hmm
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whats everyones thoughts on this?
bah, rubbish....
did shutting down napster stop the music liberation movement? our side is gonna win the drug war.
I don't know if you noticed but Napster got shut down and became a pay service that is no longer around anymore and that was mp3 files, not drugs. After the megaupload shut down there has been a chilling effect on other sites like it as well as torrent sites being shut down. The less people that know about it the better.
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i am hoping SR has their shit together so that the servers never are found, and if they are found/shut down that thay have backup servers waiting in other areas of the world to bring the site back online. IF SR has their shit together, they have already taken these precautions.
as far as telling people i tend to not tell people. since i am a vendor, i don't need more competition! ;)
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Newbie here.
Im going to treat SR like meeting a new contact in real life, - you don't shout it around town ( especially if its a really small town like mine ) Im glad to have found the place, I might let a couple of friends know but just like in real life all they are getting to know at the moment is that i can get.
Glad to be here and a massive well done and thank you to SR - and all who sail in her.
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raistin: ..sounds sensible..
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I am a relative noob, but I agree with whomever said that the slight difficulty in anonymising yourself is a 'barrier to entry' for most of the general public. I was only told about it by a good friend who knew that I understand a decent amount of web security.
And, like someone else said, markets like this will evolve faster than LE can catch them.
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Cheers TWM bud.
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Discretion is never a bad thing. I showed a couple of people this place and when I explained all of the various things needed - Tor, PGP, BC, etc. - they just weren't interested in the whole process nor were they comfortable with the package delivery part of the equation. I think many people, at least in the drug sections, who can get stuff locally won't bother. I, on the other hand, find this place strangely addictive. LOL! I have more weed now than I can smoke by myself and I just want to try every strain in existence.
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I say keep it on the DL, the less people know about it the less time everyone including higher up people in society will take to find out about it and how it works. Obviously they already know about it but the smaller it stays the less they will try to crack down on it. Just my opinion though.
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Discretion is never a bad thing. I showed a couple of people this place and when I explained all of the various things needed - Tor, PGP, BC, etc. - they just weren't interested in the whole process nor were they comfortable with the package delivery part of the equation. I think many people, at least in the drug sections, who can get stuff locally won't bother. I, on the other hand, find this place strangely addictive. LOL! I have more weed now than I can smoke by myself and I just want to try every strain in existence.
My sentiments exactly. This place is addictive. An online community where I can not only buy my drugs and have them brought to my fucking door, but also get faded and talk to other people doing the same thing. It's just...its...perfect. Exactly what I needed.
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I was wondering that myself. I heard about "some website" my neighbor was talking about around spring, this time, last year. It seems that this website was destined to travel quick. I've only told my closest friend, but haven't told them what they need to do to get here. They probably wouldn't even understand this stuff anyway.
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Newbie here.
Im going to treat SR like meeting a new contact in real life, - you don't shout it around town ( especially if its a really small town like mine ) Im glad to have found the place, I might let a couple of friends know but just like in real life all they are getting to know at the moment is that i can get.
Glad to be here and a massive well done and thank you to SR - and all who sail in her.
Great post.
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I say keep quiet about SR. The people who need/want to know will find it on their own.
As a vendor this may be counter productive to what the goal$ are, but I think the more people know about it - the more chance idiots will ruin it for everyone.
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The cat has been out of the bag since even before the infamous Gawker article. There are a number of videos on Youtube and blogs telling every tom, dick & LEO about SR.
http://howtobitcoin.org/silk_road_market.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOHkmkWxjGs - dutch tv show about drugs & sex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDeOS4MkaqQ
This one is pretty detailed and even has pics of packaging. - http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road
And anyone remember the SR site on clearnet? - http://silkroadmarket.org/
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Maybe I'm being selfish but as much as I want to show this place off to a number of my cooler, smarter and more discrete friends another part of me just wants to keep this as my (our - the SR community's) own little secret.
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I have yet to tell anyone about it. I have a lot of friends that are going to be wanting to know where I managed to find all these amazing hookups. The fact is, I think they are trolls. They would get on this forum and flame the first vendor that they didn't agree with. This is just theory, but I can just see them overreacting.
The last thing I would want would be for them to come on here, Rage out over nothing, and name drop me for telling them about the site. So, for now, and likely for always, I will be keeping it a bit of a secret from them.
:P
-jig
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...would you have done something illegal or shady....and later thought "i know what i'll do...I'll tell someone about it...i mean i could get them involved too how exciting...
i'll walk into MI-5 and tell them all about it...i'll feel much better after....."
{another good day.....}
::)
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No need to spread the word. As SR has said the die has already been cast. Anybody who really wants to find this place will the rest don't need to know.I wouldn't ell anybody, because frankly I like the anonymity. I love the fact that nobody knows me and I don't know them. I'm not against growth, but I'm not planning on aiding it. Hell, with the mainstream meidia, crongress, and the Justice Dept. already on this, SR probably isn't long for this world anyway. I'm getting while the getting is good then getting out before shit hits the fan.
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Did someone say PCP? :P
haha I was saying to a friend the other day why is there no pcp here! I want to try it :)
i think that a steady growth over time will be essential and in that time more ideas on security and other features will be improved hopefully it keeps up with the growth mind!
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There is no good reason to tell anybody about this place. Would you go around giving out your dealers number in real life? People talk too much.
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The nail that sticks up gets hammered down
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I think we should tell as many people as possible about SR because an increased customer base will attract more vendors which in turn will increase supply and competition which will mean better prices for SR customers.
A drastic increase in SR trades(like tentfold) could also very well improve stability of bitcoin currency which is surely positive.
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There was a series of posters made during World War 2 entitled "Loose lips sink ships"
wise words in my opinion.
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They didn't have TOR at the time ;)
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..Tor alone will not save you...
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No, personally I only tell friends and the like about SR if I think they can handle the info. (bit arrogant on my part :-[ , I know) The SR service offers the good, bad and ugly and I think it (the merchandise) can do serious damage in the wrong hands. I do not wish to be responsible indirectly for this damage.
It is a bit like handing children the keys to a sweet shop, not all kids can handle it, sorry to say. I would like to meet people on SR with some brain and sense, and an interest in drugs for the right reasons, as opposed to self destruct.
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I sort of agree with the poster above, not necessarily because people will have an issue using SR from an ability point of view, but I think along with SR comes the other aspects of Tor - CP, conspiracy theories, etc etc. I feel a certain amount of compartmentalizing has to take place in order to ignore all that other stuff, or at least for me, otherwise it makes me really sad (what can I say, I'm against the abuse of children and animals!).
I have one friend who really wants to know where I'm getting stuff from but I can't tell her because I know she'd have a huge issue with the other stuff on here.
One of my issues is just pure laziness in explaining it all to someone who has never encountered anything like it before. BTC, PGP, TOR, etc. If someone wants something specific I'd probably say "I can get it for you" (if it's something often sold here) but other than that I believe in the protective power of silence.
Although, that said, I'm purely a buyer, I might think differently if I were a vendor.
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with great power, comes great responsibility 8)
with SR we have power, to help, to hurt. we must be responsible about who we expose that power to.
i consider myself responsible and more mature than some, dare i say most.. but a weaker willed person could do serious damage to themselves or others dealing in these parts, SR or just the rest of deepnet
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I sort of agree with the poster above, not necessarily because people will have an issue using SR from an ability point of view, but I think along with SR comes the other aspects of Tor - CP, conspiracy theories, etc etc. I feel a certain amount of compartmentalizing has to take place in order to ignore all that other stuff, or at least for me, otherwise it makes me really sad (what can I say, I'm against the abuse of children and animals!).
I have one friend who really wants to know where I'm getting stuff from but I can't tell her because I know she'd have a huge issue with the other stuff on here.
I disagree about the Tor factor being problematic. There's millions of horrific things on the clearnet but that doesn't - and shouldn't - stop anyone form going online. SR is only one site that uses Tor and doesn't condone CP or anything like that. If you have a problem with certain drugs or weapons being sold on SR, that's a different issue, I think, and one that's been endlessly discussed in other threads in the forums. Remember that Tor has been used in all kinds of oppressed countries for people to communicate and unite for protests, etc.
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I disagree about the Tor factor being problematic. There's millions of horrific things on the clearnet but that doesn't - and shouldn't - stop anyone form going online. SR is only one site that uses Tor and doesn't condone CP or anything like that. If you have a problem with certain drugs or weapons being sold on SR, that's a different issue, I think, and one that's been endlessly discussed in other threads in the forums. Remember that Tor has been used in all kinds of oppressed countries for people to communicate and unite for protests, etc.
You're right, I guess I didn't look at it this way. I originally came down here for uncensored discussions and drugs, primarily, but the urge to search around got to me and all of a sudden I felt like I was being bombarded with boards about CP that I never asked for, and I know some people might find that difficult (as I did at first). The clearnet seems so small to me that I never really encountered anything using run of the mill searches that I'd find problematic. But I understand SR doesn't endorse such activities, and other than the CP there's a lot to admire about the whole Tor network.
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Personally, I just stay low key and use SR for what I need. Many oppodtunistic scammers will salivate as they scheme and carry out their misery causing shit.
priscilla...you better stop ignoring me girl. : P LOL
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I say keep it small we got everything we need here I did time in prison cause I thought I would help a friend out and I can't see the place go cause u can't find my stuff anywhere around here and when u do it cut to yell if u didn't seek this place out on ur own u don't need to know keep it alive as long as we can
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Well, I only care about me and people that are like me.
Fuck everyone else.
I think Silk Road should only be for people who can't find drugs anywhere else. You people who can score elsewhere don't need SR the same way I do. Won't use it the same way I will. Will only fuck it up for me and the others like me.
Now that I've arrived, I think registration should be closed. Silk Road was just too small before my arrival, but now that I'm here, it's just the right size! Any bigger and it's doomed for sure, because then SR will be crawling with law enforcement, at the request of senators, and aided by confidential informants.
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spread the word to sellers, we need more sellers here, opiates particularly!!
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ive seen this question brought up throughout the year with the same answers, I say that this is definitely a movement in the sense of napster as brought up before,
Bitcoin is p2p and the basic ideas are in unison with file sharing, look at how big of a problem that is and it is just starting to get addressed, tell people about SR it will help the bitcoin economy!! nothing will make this bigger unless bitcoin gets bigger plus the more the market flourishes the more people will be brought into taking bitcoin to the next level!!!
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I don't know about anyone else but I catch hell trying to get on here now because of the crowd...
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How about PROMOTING THE BITCOIN? DO NOT PROMOTE the SR WEBSITE!!! Don't bring sand to the beach. People WILL FIND US. WE ALL MADE IT! So will others. PROMOTE THE BITCOIN!! Grow the economy. More people that buy btc the better. :D Work smart not hard and foolishly!!
Hello LE,
"I'm spreading the word about my favorite website....."
Okay, we all can agree that will be a VERY bad situation for anyone to be in. So don't find yourself in it. EPIC FAIL!!! The silver bracelets are not werewolf protection and watch your ass around your new cellmate :'(
Hello LE,
"I'm spreading the word about the bitcoin. BTC. It's a digital internet commodity available to you." Absolutely nothing wrong or illegal about it. You can go in many different directions with the conversation. SMART. PROMOTE THE BITCOIN ;D
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MrDdroMcGillacutty:
- you have made an interesting point, the authorities and bankers won't like bitcoin cos they don't control it nor tax it and its one of the ingredients of
supporting services so that they become widely accepted and legal, its one of the ways to free ourselves and is the way forward.
Once the stigma associated with bitcoin and other e-currencies is lifted their case against Silk Road becomes thinner and thinner till it becomes as accepted
as buying a pack of fags in a corner shop.
;)
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the Bitcoin is the biggest threat to the establishment that I've ever encountered. the only real power governments have is control over money...all their other powers stem from that.
upon first learning about BTC I was shocked that nameless authorities didn't crush the market in the beginning. or maybe its the authorities who hacked the BTC network?
anyway, using BTC is a revolutionary act...I agree with MrDdroMcGillacutty that you should promote BTC and let people find silk road on their own.
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the amount of computing power and resources it would take is not worth it to the government, think about all the problems out there the government cant fix or have the resources to fix this is no different,
the btc market as a whole i think is only in the millions that is big in terms of an online currency but in terms of government who spends millions daily on useless terms of endearment and deal with numbers in the Trillions i dont think that this is a big enough problem, obviously this has been brought up to them im sure as ive read many articles of SR being known but until the great community complains about SR I dont see them doing a whole lot about it
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so i just told an aquaitance of mine about the lovely Road, not sure if a did a good thing..
whats everyones thoughts on this?
keep it small or let it grow
Let it grow, But don't tell people about it you idiot. Then your more likely to get caught.
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- its more a case their lack of control, inability to view its flow from person to person -yes we accept
that tax is added on goods at the till; they're not going to tolerate the people "governing" themselves and a non-government controlled currency !
- goods and services enter at one point, what has been converted into currency disappears....
- their ability to control the market ends as the bitcoin becomes almost a level of bartering.
- the tax office are unable to accurately determine "income" nor "sales" and they see it as less potential tax, and their inability to lump on stealth taxes along the way.
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my government recently started taxing people using Ebay and CC-data.... Viva bitcoin!
And no. We get enough media coverage as it is.
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How about PROMOTING THE BITCOIN? DO NOT PROMOTE the SR WEBSITE!!! Don't bring sand to the beach. People WILL FIND US. WE ALL MADE IT! So will others. PROMOTE THE BITCOIN!! Grow the economy. More people that buy btc the better. :D Work smart not hard and foolishly!!
Hello LE,
"I'm spreading the word about my favorite website....."
Okay, we all can agree that will be a VERY bad situation for anyone to be in. So don't find yourself in it. EPIC FAIL!!! The silver bracelets are not werewolf protection and watch your ass around your new cellmate :'(
Hello LE,
"I'm spreading the word about the bitcoin. BTC. It's a digital internet commodity available to you." Absolutely nothing wrong or illegal about it. You can go in many different directions with the conversation. SMART. PROMOTE THE BITCOIN ;D
Very true.
Feed some info about BTC to the inquisitive mind, and if he/she is looking hard enough they will find SR all on their own.
I would NEVER give out the details of Silk Road to anyone IRL. There a currently two close friends that know I can get high quality goods delivered right from the internet; but nobody has the slightest clue about SR, BTC, Tor, etc etc. This way I reap the benefits of middle-man when I order for others, and I do my part in keeping SR a secret. It's a win-win situation folks.
Loose lips sink ships. Silence is golden people.
I agree new buyer accounts should be shut down for a while, or come with a price-tag to keep the influx of new buyers down. SR is growing too big for its own good, and I fear the owner/operators of this site are not investing NEARLY enough time/money/resources into SECURITY. With this new fee structure, and all this new found cash I'd seriously hope SR is investing every resource available to them into keeping this shit secure and anonymous.
Make no mistake about it, shit will hit the fan here very soon if things keep up at the current rate.
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I haven't read this whole thread but I found this site searching Google for "Where to buy cocaine" ....I honestly didn't expect to actually find a useful answer but there it was.....some news story (gawker I think?) And even then I thought it wouldn't be easy but it was.
I searched for silk road and some nice webpage gave me all the info I needed..... 15 min later I'm here and buying bitcoins. It really isn't hard since those articles were written. Anyone semi able to use a PC and the web can find it. I haven't told anyone though.
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I found this site searching Google for "Where to buy cocaine" ....I honestly didn't expect to actually find a useful answer but there it was.....some news story (gawker I think?)
Haha, that's how I found out about SR too! Except my Google search was "How to get drugs" - I sort of just typed this in out of boredom and curiosity. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that it would turn up an actual solution!
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I found this site searching Google for "Where to buy cocaine" ....I honestly didn't expect to actually find a useful answer but there it was.....some news story (gawker I think?)
Haha, that's how I found out about SR too! Except my Google search was "How to get drugs" - I sort of just typed this in out of boredom and curiosity. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that it would turn up an actual solution!
lol yep that's exactly why I did it,,,,boredom & curiosity.....I guess Google really can find anything heh heh
Its nice too know I'm not the only one looking up stuff like that.
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...and thats (1 of the ways) Silk Road will grow...
;)
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There are many articles online and in magazines like rolling stone... I feel like people telling a few friends wouldn't be the end of silk road
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This discussion, frankly, is kind of silly. There is no way anyone can stop the growth the online drug distribution industry anymore than they can stop the online book selling. Some have compared it to Napster. Even when Napster got negative attention and pressed into nothingness, it didn't stop file sharing. It likely pushed things in the opposite direction.
SR might be the first, it most certainly won't be the last. Likely specialty sites are up next. Who knows? The market will dictate, not LEOs.
Point1) If there's an LEO on the planet who doesn't know about SR, then he/she is too ignorant of technology to bring anything to "the fight" to bring down this or any other site of its kind. Your local sheriff's deputy can't do anything about the site itself other than say "wow, drugs on the interwebs. that's crazy." So leave him a sticky on his cruiser telling him about it. Doesn't matter.
Point 2) You are not part of a secret society. As has been pointed out, a google search and the most basic of tech ability gets someone from 0 to SR in approx 15 minutes. SR is global. It's in the news. Keeping the 'secret' from the 3 guys you go to drag shows with will not prolong SR's existence. Again. Doesn't matter.
Point 3) If you think that popularity will lead to the SR ship going down with everyone on it, then you probably shouldn't be on here. It's already popular. You can't stop it.
Point4) BTC is NOT a competitor of the dollar or any other major currency. I can have a pizza in 15 minutes with $. It might take me 5 hours to get one in BTC, and the total cost to get the pizza would be about 75$. No competition.
There are more things, but I'm tired and got shit to do. LSS--Talk away. Or don't. The site won't notice.
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This discussion, frankly, is kind of silly. There is no way anyone can stop the growth the online drug distribution industry anymore than they can stop the online book selling. Some have compared it to Napster. Even when Napster got negative attention and pressed into nothingness, it didn't stop file sharing. It likely pushed things in the opposite direction.
SR might be the first, it most certainly won't be the last. Likely specialty sites are up next. Who knows? The market will dictate, not LEOs.
Point1) If there's an LEO on the planet who doesn't know about SR, then he/she is too ignorant of technology to bring anything to "the fight" to bring down this or any other site of its kind. Your local sheriff's deputy can't do anything about the site itself other than say "wow, drugs on the interwebs. that's crazy." So leave him a sticky on his cruiser telling him about it. Doesn't matter.
Point 2) You are not part of a secret society. As has been pointed out, a google search and the most basic of tech ability gets someone from 0 to SR in approx 15 minutes. SR is global. It's in the news. Keeping the 'secret' from the 3 guys you go to drag shows with will not prolong SR's existence. Again. Doesn't matter.
Point 3) If you think that popularity will lead to the SR ship going down with everyone on it, then you probably shouldn't be on here. It's already popular. You can't stop it.
Point4) BTC is NOT a competitor of the dollar or any other major currency. I can have a pizza in 15 minutes with $. It might take me 5 hours to get one in BTC, and the total cost to get the pizza would be about 75$. No competition.
There are more things, but I'm tired and got shit to do. LSS--Talk away. Or don't. The site won't notice.
+1 Regional. Great post!
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Hahaha! No thanks on the Natalie Imbruglia mate. You can keep that one.
I don't see the problem in telling INTELLIGENT people about the road. Its definitely not something you wanna tweet about or make into a FB status update. But, If you know someone who has the brainpower to use Tor and BTC properly, and feel that they would be respectful, courteous members of this exceptional community of like minded people; then tell them.
I for one am extremely grateful that my buddy mentioned this place to me. Id much rather place an order for my favorite substances, knowing that my product is going to be legit, and sit back and wait for it to come to me; as opposed to going to a dealers house/frantically calling around to get the hook up. I can just go to work, come home and check the mail.
This place truly is a blessing!
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Id much rather place an order for my favorite substances, knowing that my product is going to be legit, and sit back and wait for it to come to me; as opposed to going to a dealers house/frantically calling around to get the hook up. I can just go to work, come home and check the mail.
This place truly is a blessing!
Hallelujah to that ^^ :)
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Lets face it, the war on drugs has been lost by the authorities worldwide. Hard as they try, they will never win. Plain and simple. The Rd is just another example of how that war is being lost, and will continue to be lost. If the road goes down, something else will take its place. Its time the muppets at the top all over the world (esp the fucking Yanks) realized that this is the real world. People want to get high. I work hard, I pay large taxes, its my choice.
My personal experience is that I'm getting a much more quality product here than I would otherwise, even if the cost is slightly higher.
Long Live The Road.
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Lets face it, the war on drugs has been lost by the authorities worldwide. Hard as they try, they will never win. Plain and simple. The Rd is just another example of how that war is being lost, and will continue to be lost. If the road goes down, something else will take its place. Its time the muppets at the top all over the world (esp the fucking Yanks) realized that this is the real world. People want to get high. I work hard, I pay large taxes, its my choice.
My personal experience is that I'm getting a much more quality product here than I would otherwise, even if the cost is slightly higher.
Long Live The Road.
totally with you man
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This discussion, frankly, is kind of silly. There is no way anyone can stop the growth the online drug distribution industry anymore than they can stop the online book selling.
i think the point and what everyone posting are getting at is :-
1. don't care no responsibility no influence, OR
2. take some responsibility, participate and how "I" will influence something, OR
3. the ride goes where the authorities take it.
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Im going to have to say NO. But if they stumble upon it like I did one day then they were obviously looking for something. ( Ketamine ) ;D ;D
But going around telling people is just going to fuck things up for the people that are just trying to catch a buzz ;)