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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: pine on February 12, 2012, 08:30 am
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[Edit: I thought this was so hilarious, that I had to double post]
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I came across some most amusing information while doing my research. I think it's some comfort to our professional vendors dealing in high volumes.
- A 2009 study showed that at least 90% of US dollar bills have cocaine residues on them, and some of the tests showed that more than 95% of the cash in circulation is cocaine- contaminated.
- People send cash through the post all the time despite being told it's a stupid idea by the postal service. Especially at Christmas time.
Putting two and two together, this will mean:
Using electronic noses for drug detection systems to stop each and every package is actually impossible.
Yes, you can use a electronic nose for drug residue detection.
Yes, in theory they are able to detect up to 1 billionth of a gram of cocaine or other drug.
But in practice probably more people send cash through the post in the world, than use SR's services (those statistics don't differ much between Europe and America). As a result, the sensitivity of the electronic drug detection mechanisms has to be quite low or they would have to stop the mail every couple of seconds.
Obviously this doesn't mean you should stop vacuum packing and using rubbing alcohol to get rid of drug residues, but it certainly makes sure that LEO is put back in his box. :P
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[Edit: I thought this was so hilarious, that I had to double post]
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I came across some most amusing information while doing my research. I think it's some comfort to our professional vendors dealing in high volumes.
- A 2009 study showed that at least 90% of US dollar bills have cocaine residues on them, and some of the tests showed that more than 95% of the cash in circulation is cocaine- contaminated.
- People send cash through the post all the time despite being told it's a stupid idea by the postal service. Especially at Christmas time.
Putting two and two together, this will mean:
Using electronic noses for drug detection systems to stop each and every package is actually impossible.
Yes, you can use a electronic nose for drug residue detection.
Yes, in theory they are able to detect up to 1 billionth of a gram of cocaine or other drug.
But in practice probably more people send cash through the post in the world, than use SR's services (those statistics don't differ much between Europe and America). As a result, the sensitivity of the electronic drug detection mechanisms has to be quite low or they would have to stop the mail every couple of seconds.
Obviously this doesn't mean you should stop vacuum packing and using rubbing alcohol to get rid of drug residues, but it certainly makes sure that LEO is put back in his box. :P
Haha!
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Also, ChillyP had an excellent idea in my other thread:
It would be pretty easy to thwart electronic sniffers I think, especially if there was a concerted effort. Throw a gram of finely powdered offender into a blue boxes near major shipping hubs on a regular basis. Everything gets contaminated (not quite, but you know what I mean). If this model of drug distribution ever scales up, I think they will focus on cracking down on the mail though. Then again, given the financial situation faced by the post, they may be limited anyhow.
LEO. Checkmate.
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As far as mailing money goes: You can send a few thousand dollars cash through the USPS and it is not considered a crime. Even if they find the money (unlikely) just send it in the form of a gift and it's no problem. I don't remember the exact amount, but I know folks that send about 10k a day no problem. If you make it look normal it is.
Hi uncle bobby!
Hope this helps in your time of need!
Ya dig?...:)
Money does stink though. I wouldn't send more than 10k at once. I actually think 6k is the max, again I'm not sure. Anything bigger mix into multiple packages over a few days and a few addresses or just drive it out. 10k is the max to travel with, although I've seen many people put 10k in their carry on and carry the same on their person...plus the 25k they mailed ahead the day before in separate packs....sometimes money is a burden...
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I know I'm in the right business when my coworkers are complaining about their money being too heavy. :D
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[Edit: I thought this was so hilarious, that I had to double post]
Original Post: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11731.30;topicseen
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I came across some most amusing information while doing my research. I think it's some comfort to our professional vendors dealing in high volumes.
- A 2009 study showed that at least 90% of US dollar bills have cocaine residues on them, and some of the tests showed that more than 95% of the cash in circulation is cocaine- contaminated.
- People send cash through the post all the time despite being told it's a stupid idea by the postal service. Especially at Christmas time.
Putting two and two together, this will mean:
Using electronic noses for drug detection systems to stop each and every package is actually impossible.
Yes, you can use a electronic nose for drug residue detection.
Yes, in theory they are able to detect up to 1 billionth of a gram of cocaine or other drug.
But in practice probably more people send cash through the post in the world, than use SR's services (those statistics don't differ much between Europe and America). As a result, the sensitivity of the electronic drug detection mechanisms has to be quite low or they would have to stop the mail every couple of seconds.
Obviously this doesn't mean you should stop vacuum packing and using rubbing alcohol to get rid of drug residues, but it certainly makes sure that LEO is put back in his box. :P
I doubt dogs can smell 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 gram of cocaine on a bill. Otherwise every time I get pulled over and a dog sniffs me he would bark at my bills.
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[Edit: I thought this was so hilarious, that I had to double post]
Original Post: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11731.30;topicseen
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I came across some most amusing information while doing my research. I think it's some comfort to our professional vendors dealing in high volumes.
- A 2009 study showed that at least 90% of US dollar bills have cocaine residues on them, and some of the tests showed that more than 95% of the cash in circulation is cocaine- contaminated.
- People send cash through the post all the time despite being told it's a stupid idea by the postal service. Especially at Christmas time.
Putting two and two together, this will mean:
Using electronic noses for drug detection systems to stop each and every package is actually impossible.
Yes, you can use a electronic nose for drug residue detection.
Yes, in theory they are able to detect up to 1 billionth of a gram of cocaine or other drug.
But in practice probably more people send cash through the post in the world, than use SR's services (those statistics don't differ much between Europe and America). As a result, the sensitivity of the electronic drug detection mechanisms has to be quite low or they would have to stop the mail every couple of seconds.
Obviously this doesn't mean you should stop vacuum packing and using rubbing alcohol to get rid of drug residues, but it certainly makes sure that LEO is put back in his box. :P
I doubt dogs can smell 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 gram of cocaine on a bill. Otherwise every time I get pulled over and a dog sniffs me he would bark at my bills.
The effectiveness of K9's varies all over the place. The most common aspect is getting the dog to get a fake hit so they can search every nook and cranny.
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Hi uncle bobby!
Hope this helps in your time of need!
Ya dig?...:)
ooooooh that uncle bobby....alwaaaayyys getting into trouble. when is he ever going to learn?! ;D ;D ;D
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[Edit: I thought this was so hilarious, that I had to double post]
Original Post: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11731.30;topicseen
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I came across some most amusing information while doing my research. I think it's some comfort to our professional vendors dealing in high volumes.
- A 2009 study showed that at least 90% of US dollar bills have cocaine residues on them, and some of the tests showed that more than 95% of the cash in circulation is cocaine- contaminated.
- People send cash through the post all the time despite being told it's a stupid idea by the postal service. Especially at Christmas time.
Putting two and two together, this will mean:
Using electronic noses for drug detection systems to stop each and every package is actually impossible.
Yes, you can use a electronic nose for drug residue detection.
Yes, in theory they are able to detect up to 1 billionth of a gram of cocaine or other drug.
But in practice probably more people send cash through the post in the world, than use SR's services (those statistics don't differ much between Europe and America). As a result, the sensitivity of the electronic drug detection mechanisms has to be quite low or they would have to stop the mail every couple of seconds.
Obviously this doesn't mean you should stop vacuum packing and using rubbing alcohol to get rid of drug residues, but it certainly makes sure that LEO is put back in his box. :P
I doubt dogs can smell 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 gram of cocaine on a bill. Otherwise every time I get pulled over and a dog sniffs me he would bark at my bills.
Woe betide you, you doubting Thomas! Actually it is not so simple as that, let me explain more fully.
The Hound 2 System in prison mailrooms can detect up to 1 billionth of a gram of drug residue. Google away and check it out.
That is 0.000000001 of a gram.
Even the fundamental particles in physics are bigger than 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 of gram, so let's keep a sense of proportion here! God! :P
As for man's best friend, I'm willing to bet he is actually better than the machine, not worse. Not in terms of quantity per say, but in terms of accuracy. The reasons are simple:
A: Dogs are hunters. Hence they have finely tuned biological filters for what is significant and what is not significant (mostly nose).
B: Dogs have been hunters for hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.
C: Dogs have been hunting with humans for at least tens of thousands of years of evolution.
D: There is a big difference between being able to *detect* some quantity, and *knowing* if it's relevant to the situation.
Dogs really are smart enough to do (D), and the combination of being addicted to the drug + desire to please their human masters is exceptionally powerful motivation.
I bet my bottom dollar on the Dog, over the Machine, any day of the week. It's like comparing a pop gun with a atom bomb.
Respect the Dog, he is your best friend and enemy, so don't underestimate him. Viktor Suvorov (a defector) says one of the first things the GRU (Russian Secret Military Intelligence Agency) teaches its operators is to respect the Dog. They think this lesson is so important, they release their agents into the wild and then hunt them down with dogs.
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Im really starting to like you pine.
You are an interesting chap ;)
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The problem with dogs is that they tire quickly. They work really well for the first 15 minutes. They're OK for the first 1/2 hour. After that their effectiveness starts to drop rapidly. After the first hour they aren't that good.
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[Edit: I thought this was so hilarious, that I had to double post]
Original Post: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11731.30;topicseen
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I came across some most amusing information while doing my research. I think it's some comfort to our professional vendors dealing in high volumes.
- A 2009 study showed that at least 90% of US dollar bills have cocaine residues on them, and some of the tests showed that more than 95% of the cash in circulation is cocaine- contaminated.
- People send cash through the post all the time despite being told it's a stupid idea by the postal service. Especially at Christmas time.
Putting two and two together, this will mean:
Using electronic noses for drug detection systems to stop each and every package is actually impossible.
Yes, you can use a electronic nose for drug residue detection.
Yes, in theory they are able to detect up to 1 billionth of a gram of cocaine or other drug.
But in practice probably more people send cash through the post in the world, than use SR's services (those statistics don't differ much between Europe and America). As a result, the sensitivity of the electronic drug detection mechanisms has to be quite low or they would have to stop the mail every couple of seconds.
Obviously this doesn't mean you should stop vacuum packing and using rubbing alcohol to get rid of drug residues, but it certainly makes sure that LEO is put back in his box. :P
lmao. good writing i just think it's funny. ive heard of the cocaine residue. what sucks if you get pullked over with a large sum of money chances are you'll lose it if your pulled over and they bring the dogs. because of the residue. LE knows this and use this to their advantage. sad bad true.
rowdyrasta
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what sucks if you get pullked over with a large sum of money chances are you'll lose it if your pulled over and they bring the dogs. because of the residue. LE knows this and use this to their advantage. sad bad true.
I recall an article I read mentioning that they actually train dogs to hit on large amounts of cash. Perhaps somehow they can discriminate a small amount from a large one; I don't know. I'd dig it up if I was motivated. It's a pretty controversial tactic because they can seize large amounts of cash until you prove it was legitimately acquired. Government sponsored theft essentially.
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I read recently (but forget where) that 80% of K9 positives were the result of handler suggestion. Like they gave the dog/human team a hippy with fake pot vs a square with real pot. Whether the stat is true or not I believe that the dog is merely a tool for the cop to search ya. And if they want to search ya they will.
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I read recently (but forget where) that 80% of K9 positives were the result of handler suggestion. Like they gave the dog/human team a hippy with fake pot vs a square with real pot. Whether the stat is true or not I believe that the dog is merely a tool for the cop to search ya. And if they want to search ya they will.
I'm not suggesting that handlers don't sometimes use their dogs unscrupulously, but mostly dogs just work. I've seen mythbusters where a dog finds packages of drugs inside a giant warehouse filled with millions of items, and that was when the package was disguised inside items with strong cover up smells.
Like Oldtoker says, the key thing is that they can't keep it up for long and their powers of observation can't be automated just because you have a detection mechanism.