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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: birdlover on February 10, 2012, 09:55 pm

Title: MG scales in Australia
Post by: birdlover on February 10, 2012, 09:55 pm
Hi,

I was hoping someone could kindly recommend somewhere I can purchase reasonably cheap but reliable milligram scales in Australia.  Does not have to be from in Australia obviously but somewhere reliable as long as it arrives here okay.

I don't really want to use ebay or paypal to purchase.

Thanks
BL
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: hoffa on February 11, 2012, 10:37 am
Joint Venture
Happy happy high
Stoneworx
Jcar
Dicksmiths
Or if all else fails any weekend market

Think I have hit every state  8)

Make sure you get the .000 scales
 price will be around the $100

Cheers
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: pine on February 11, 2012, 12:12 pm
Wait, LE seriously tracks milligram scales? Second hand milligram scales on amazon/ebay?

wat
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: MRSIN on February 11, 2012, 01:30 pm
Most large tobacconists have .00 scales, around $50-100
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: brockeh on February 11, 2012, 11:17 pm
dont go to a tobaccoist place, you will pay easily over $150 for a milligram (0.000) scale.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/digital-jewellery-scale-10g-2060  -CLEARWEB

this one is $23.. the shipping from this website takes a fair while tho, like 3 weeks+

that websites kinda awesome in general too. gadgety type stuff so cheap

Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: birdlover on February 12, 2012, 12:42 am
Thanks for the suggestions.  I will check out the deal extreme site soon.  Someone else recommended them to me once ages ago but I was not sure if they were legit, etc.

Pine, I am not aware of scales being tracked - that was not the issue about not using ebay.  I just don't use my ebay/paypal account anymore as I think I owed a couple of dollars or something on it so never went back lol.  It was a pain to keep going for me for some reason.

Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: pine on February 12, 2012, 06:53 am
Pine, I am not aware of scales being tracked - that was not the issue about not using ebay.  I just don't use my ebay/paypal account anymore as I think I owed a couple of dollars or something on it so never went back lol.  It was a pain to keep going for me for some reason.

I'm pleased to hear it! The government has done some pretty Stazi-like stuff in the past, so it wasn't a crazy question either. For example, since 2001 or so, the secret service were apparently asking laser printer companies to print yellow microdots onto each and every piece of paper printed. It sounds incredible, but it also happens to be true, you can check it out for yourself if you have a laser printer, a UV light, good eyesight and decode the microdots into a timestamp, printer type and vendor information. The EFF has a series of articles on the subject. Apparently it was to 'prevent counterfeiting', which is such a load of horseshit it's unreal, you'd only catch a bunch of amateurs scanning and printing on their home machines that way. If you look at the list of printer companies that modifies their machines to print those tracking dots, it was pretty much every single one you've ever heard of.

Anyway, tracking milligram scales seems like a similarly over the top move. Wouldn't put it past them for a second either.
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: birdlover on February 13, 2012, 01:19 am
HI Pine,

That is some heavy shit there.  Would they be able to do this with black ink only laser printers?

Makes me more paranoid than ever hearing about this type of thing.  What is the EFF btw?

Thanks
BL
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: pine on February 13, 2012, 06:04 am
HI Pine,

That is some heavy shit there.  Would they be able to do this with black ink only laser printers?

Makes me more paranoid than ever hearing about this type of thing.  What is the EFF btw?

Thanks
BL

I'm not sure BL, but given this list:

https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-display-tracking-dots

I'd simply assume the worst case scenario.

The EFF is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation

Basically a bunch of geeks that keep an eye out for this kind of shit. I mean, this has been going on for a decade because anybody copped it. It sounds like the most retarded conspiracy theory, but unfortunately it's true, I've seen it for myself on a test laser jet and a blacklight. I couldn't believe it myself. Yeah, you got to stop counterfeiters so you track *every piece of fucking A4 paper in the world*. Wat.

I use a special printing technology for things like address labels because of this. Alternatively, I recommend you buy an old 2nd hand printer.
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: birdlover on February 13, 2012, 10:08 am
Yikes!  Thanks for explaining.  Hate my newish black ink only laser printer now lol.  Suppose I cannot blame the printer but I do not like the sounds of this.

I am liking that dealextreme site though.  They have some interesting and cheap stuff on there.  Even an adult section.....hehe

Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: arutha on February 13, 2012, 11:06 am
I know you said no ebay, but I got mine on ebay. Small pocket size mg scale seems to work well enough, comes with weights to calibrate, was about $30. Don't buy from anywhere in Aus or you will get inflated prices, buy from OS.
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: padawan65 on February 14, 2012, 03:26 pm
I picked up a set at the markets for $10, seem reasonably accurate.  Just .5 grm of ice and including baggy weighed .74 (probably over because of slow delivery)
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: birdlover on February 14, 2012, 09:08 pm
Thanks arutha.  If dealextreme are no good I will look into ebay again.

That is cheap, padawan65.  Were they brand new for that price?  Also just like weekend flea markets?
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: arutha on February 15, 2012, 01:22 am
If you do look at ebay, I used the seller U-shopbay with item "Diamond Pocket Milligram Precision Digital Scale", which still has the listing up. I think they are based in Singapore, but ship from Victoria.
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: FiveSeven on February 15, 2012, 01:31 am
I got one for like $12 on eBay. It's accurate to 0.01. There are a ton of legitimate applications for scales, trying to make it anonymous is fairly pointless. If it gets to the point where your house gets searched by LE, if they find a scale, they'll probably try and get you for intention to distribute. Doesn't matter where you got it from lol.
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: birdlover on February 15, 2012, 01:54 am
Thanks arutha I will look into that one for sure.

FireSeven, that is extremely inaccurate if they tried to make out that as I really only want one to weigh my jewellery...
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: FiveSeven on February 15, 2012, 02:01 am
Thanks arutha I will look into that one for sure.

FireSeven, that is extremely inaccurate if they tried to make out that as I really only want one to weigh my jewellery...

Well sorry for assuming you wanted to buy a scale for weighing drugs on a DRUGS FORUM.

If this is just some dumb attempt at avoiding incriminating yourself, then I don't know what to say. LE can swab your scales and find the most ridiculously tiny traces of substances. Explaining to them you don't use it for drugs is going to be kinda hard if it comes to that.
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: birdlover on February 15, 2012, 02:11 am
It was just a stupid joke.  I understand trace amounts of chemicals could be left on things.  Is there a way to remove traces?
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: ozzybattla on May 27, 2012, 02:18 pm
Diamond brand 10g / 0.001g scales on ebay from Hong Kong for AUD$12.50.

The same ones have good reviews on dealextreme https://www.dealextreme.com/p/digital-jewellery-scale-10g-2060

$12.50!!
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: sl1pknot on May 27, 2012, 02:53 pm
Ozzybattla doesn't that seem a little... too cheap? If somebody was going to be weighing out drugs that have a steep dose response curve, a few milligrams could mean the difference between a good trip and an overdose... Can anyone confirm that this scale is accurate? The reviews on dealextreme seem to be pretty positive.
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: ozzybattla on May 27, 2012, 03:28 pm
Ozzybattla doesn't that seem a little... too cheap? If somebody was going to be weighing out drugs that have a steep dose response curve, a few milligrams could mean the difference between a good trip and an overdose... Can anyone confirm that this scale is accurate? The reviews on dealextreme seem to be pretty positive.
If things are that critical, I wouldn't trust any scales to be accurate to less than 0.005g really. I'd dilute and split the diluted stuff.

You can't be too careful really. I'd personally be very worried if my life depended on such accurate measurements.
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: sl1pknot on May 27, 2012, 07:13 pm
True. A lot of trust is put into vendors for accurately weighing out doses.
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: BoNgOn on May 29, 2012, 02:15 am
So are scales tracked or not? I want to buy more, Sif they sell scales as Dicksmiths? Ima go there today and check. My dickhead mate stood on my $250 pair of scales so I'll get him to buy me more.
Title: Re: MG scales in Australia
Post by: padawan65 on May 29, 2012, 12:19 pm
People no need to be paranoid about everything, scales this accurate are required for many things:

I bought mine for weighing all the diamonds I was buying, dont wont to be ripped of by a jeweler. :-*

They also can be used for weighing medicines, for components of electronics, and the evil doctor no for weighing out his bio-chemical weapons to kill us all.

I bought a set for $10 in the markets, have tested against standard weights and about 5% out, not great, but gives me some idea of how much I am getting, if I ever feel like weighing it.