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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Evanescence on February 02, 2012, 04:55 pm

Title: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: Evanescence on February 02, 2012, 04:55 pm
First package should arrive today.  Kind of excited, a little bit scared

So when do I become an official criminal?

Is it when I placed the order, when I take in out of the mailbox, or on first use? :)
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 02, 2012, 05:05 pm
Where I live it's no criminal offense taking drugs.
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: pine on February 02, 2012, 05:08 pm
It's too late!

Hello fellow criminal mammal :)
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: shadowrundeusex on February 02, 2012, 06:10 pm
Stop right there criminal scum!
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: Horizons on February 02, 2012, 06:36 pm
Stop right there criminal scum!

Somehow I expected this post from somebody named Shadowrun Deus Ex.  8)
I used to make Elder Scrolls jokes like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: Deleuze on February 02, 2012, 06:51 pm
When/If you get caught.
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: Horizons on February 02, 2012, 07:06 pm
Stop right there criminal scum!

Somehow I expected this post from somebody named Shadowrun Deus Ex.  8)
I used to make Elder Scrolls jokes like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Oh god...not that "arrow to the knee" crap again.  ;D
World of Warcraft flashback commencing.

LEEEEEEEEEEROY....... JENKINS!
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: shadowrundeusex on February 02, 2012, 07:10 pm
Somehow I expected this post from somebody named Shadowrun Deus Ex.  8)
I used to make Elder Scrolls jokes like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

 :D

I always preferred Daggerfall. You kill a fly and all of the sudden there are guards coming from every direction with a one word vocabulary. "Halt Halt Halt Ha-Halt Ha-ha-ha-halt hhhhhhaaalt"
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: tordemon on February 03, 2012, 01:36 am
Where I live it's no criminal offense taking drugs.
Woah woah woah, what? I didn't think that was true anywhere.
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: Horizons on February 03, 2012, 02:22 am
Where I live it's no criminal offense taking drugs.
Woah woah woah, what? I didn't think that was true anywhere.

It's actually true in a lot of places. But it's usually an almost-catch-22 type of situation, where consumption is legal but buying, selling, growing/making your own, stocking it anywhere or just carrying it on your person are all illegal. So, if you happen to find some laying around and use it immediately, you're not committing a felony... unless it can be argued that it was evidence that someone else was planning or trying to commit or had already committed a felony, in which case you're obstructing the flow of justice.

I know for a fact that this is true of most illegal drugs in Brazil, Chile, Peru and Argentina (though marijuana is legal in Peru and has questionable legality in Argentina, and cocaine is also legal for personal use in Peru... sort of. You can grow a whole forest of coca if you want, so long as you don't refine the product. When I lived there, a day didn't go by when I didn't either drink coca tea or chew coca leaves, so I was technically a regular cocaine user).
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: rise_against on February 03, 2012, 06:21 am
if you've ever jaywalked, then you may already be a criminal and not even know it.
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: skaald on February 03, 2012, 07:12 pm
Technically, your a criminal when you commit a crime(no matter how minor it is), however practically(or from a more chaotic point of view) your a criminal only when someone(except for you) know that you've commited a crime. Just as no one knows if a tree fell in the forest unless someone heard\saw it or see it after.
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: Horizons on February 03, 2012, 07:29 pm
The most legally sound answer to your question, at least from the point-of-view of a criminal theorist (if you ask police you'll get a different answer, of course) is this:

The moment it becomes proven in a court of law that you committed a conduct which constitutes a crime, you retroactively become a criminal from the moment when you committed that crime forward. You cease being a criminal when you finish serving your sentence, be that jail time, community service, paying a fine or anything else.
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: Dongodoo on February 03, 2012, 10:52 pm
What is Law, whose Law? Statute Law that people consent to, to be governed by? What about Supreme Law... Law of the Land etc etc

If you have No intent to harm Others, You are not a Criminal to me.
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: demetri on February 04, 2012, 02:34 pm
First package should arrive today.  Kind of excited, a little bit scared

So when do I become an official criminal?

Is it when I placed the order, when I take in out of the mailbox, or on first use? :)

I guess it depends largely on where you live and what the drugs are you're buying and the law is there.

Assuming you have purchased illegal drugs, then the crime usually takes place when you try to buy them and pay cash and try to bring them into the country/state. Even before you take delivery. You could be charged with intending to possess/import illicit substances (or whatever the correct legal term is).. once you take delivery, you can be charged with another offense...actual possession... and depending on the quantity, you might be charged with yet another offense....intent to supply... even if you have no intention of dealing, some law enforcement take the view having more than a quantity considered personal use, automatically puts you into the category of a drug dealer.. crazy eh. criminalising people without any evidence of intent to supply.

This is why if you ever get caught, like so many others have said, say nothing at all about anything, concerning ordering or anything else...anything you say could help LE secure a conviction on any of the above charges.











Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: jtnak on February 05, 2012, 07:36 pm
stupid fucking question
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: dankology on February 05, 2012, 07:54 pm
stupid fucking question

Lol @ this asshole.
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: PervertedPrude on February 05, 2012, 08:14 pm
"I'm a CRIMINAL
Cause every time I write a rhyme, these people think it's a crime
to tell em what's on my mind - I guess I'm a CRIMINAL
but I don't gotta say a word, I just flip em the bird
and keep going, I don't take shit from no one"
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: bionic1 on February 05, 2012, 08:15 pm
when you turn on your computer...
Title: Re: When do I become a criminal?
Post by: MagicMan on February 05, 2012, 08:20 pm
I think that just having BTC on this site constitutes conspiracy...