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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: 4safety on January 31, 2012, 01:00 am
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i thought he might be trollin at first but now i think its becoming obvious he's just a kid. he admitted to getting called into the office at school for browsing drug related websites (not explicitly sure if SR was in the mix).
be careful. ask yourself if it's worth putting your information in the hands of this guy with little to no security practice, read his post history and decide if he is responsible enough for your transaction.
im not trying to talk shit and make u look bad moonbear. i hope to god you clean up your act because now your not only fucking up your life, u could be fucking up other people's.
i hope u destroyed those addresses that were sent to u and pray u look more into security before it catches up w/ u
best of luck moving forward, sorry i had to make this thread but your actions are seriously alarming. others, please resist from turning this into a flamefest, maybe give moonbear tips such as:
- don't go to SR on computers that you don't have control over
- destroy addresses after u print out the label for the packages u send
- read more about security
- research your drugs a bit more
- think about what your doing, see if it worth the risk
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I know this is the deep web and everything, but I'm somewhat uncomfortable with people under 18 using the site. I mean, I know I did illegal things like drugs when I wasn't 18 yet, but I feel like people who aren't legally adults yet shouldn't be messing around the law like this.
I'm not making sense, and I understand that. It just rubs me wrong, I suppose; it just FEELS wrong morally.
The biggest moral issue would be if you're living with your parents, in which case you're giving them legal troubles without their consent, and that's seriously a big moral issue.
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He has just as much right to be here as anyone else does
If he is truly irresponsible, fine, judge him for that. If he is not honest, judge him for that.
But don't judge him because he's a kid. Don't assume he is irresponsible and dishonest because he is younger than you.
I don't know anything about moonbear, and I'm not saying he's done nothing wrong, I really don't know. I'm just saying, his age shouldn't (and doesn't) determine whether or not he has a right to be here, his character should.
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I new he was young when he said best high he has ever had was weed lol.
But on topic, he has the right to use this site as much as everyone else does, i'm only 19 and i know my friend's little brother is 14 and browses this site just for fun.
If he gets in trouble oh well. It might help him get on track in the future.
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I think TS should tell him in the PM...
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He actually said outright in a post that he was 16. Perhaps he modified it after he realized he was still a child with the intellect of a ... child.
I would never sell to this person in my life, he's just one of those buyer's i'd ignore a msg from, speaks very immaturely (guess it goes with the age).
I DO think there should be an age thing on here, I don't think it right that 14 year olds or in his case 16 are exposed to stuff they might not necessarily have access to.
I mean, moonbear made a thread asking what the best type of poisonous mushroom to use to screw someone over on a weed deal to make them 'sick but not die'.
No mature adult human beings have these sorts of thoughts, and fuck ive probably bought my actual weight in weed over the years, i'm sure i've been shorted before. Sucks, but shit sometimes happen, and you want to poison someone? That's not someone who has done weed regularly (aka an adult).
I'm pretty sure he is (young) and was a bit miffed when I saw him start posting but didn't know (or care to look) at what the SR forum rules regarding age were so just left it be. I can't just judge every new person I see as a child/scammer/alien can I?
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I new he was young when he said best high he has ever had was weed lol.
But on topic, he has the right to use this site as much as everyone else does, i'm only 19 and i know my friends little brother is 14 and browses this site just for fun.
If he gets in trouble oh well. It might help him in the future.
Or he could end up with a felony for trafficking. Not sure if that'll help him out.
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So what we have here is a hypocrit trying to tell someone else how to live right..... By calling him out on the forums instead of handling the matter privately you basically put a giant sign on his back saying "hey im a kid and an easy target for LE to crack for information including the addresses LE now knows I have because some jackass on the forums said so in public"
So on behalf of the people who did send him an address(not I), thanks for pointing LE at a minor they can now strong arm into submission.
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I cant believe someone is actually this stupid. Im blown away at what I have been reading. Glad I havent ordered anything from that guy. I never thought about kids being on the site until reading all this. Being a minor, he probably wont get it as harsh. I just feel bad for everyone that ordered from him...hopefully he destroyed all the names and addys.
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I actually didnt really know he even was vending haha.
My comments were based solely on his actions and behaviors in here, thank god I guess I didn't possibly fall victim
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So what we have here is a hypocrit trying to tell someone else how to live right..... By calling him out on the forums instead of handling the matter privately you basically put a giant sign on his back saying "hey im a kid and an easy target for LE to crack for information including the addresses LE now knows I have because some jackass on the forums said so in public"
So on behalf of the people who did send him an address(not I), thanks for pointing LE at a minor they can now strong arm into submission.
Um... moonbear put his own sign on his back saying ""hey im a kid and an easy target for LE to crack for information including the addresses LE now knows I have because some jackass on the forums said so in public"
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I new he was young when he said best high he has ever had was weed lol.
But on topic, he has the right to use this site as much as everyone else does, i'm only 19 and i know my friends little brother is 14 and browses this site just for fun.
If he gets in trouble oh well. It might help him in the future.
Or he could end up with a felony for trafficking. Not sure if that'll help him out.
Let me restate that.
I meant help him get on track and who knows, maybe not abuse drugs.
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yeah you can tell he's only a youngun by his terminology, and, as MecaJesus says - he says his best high is weed ::)
i just hope he knows it's his folks that are going to be fucked if he gets busted doing anything because he's a minor
moonbear, if you're reading this - slow down man, you've got plenty of time to get into this stuff if that's what you really want to do, but at least wait until you're legally responsible for your own actions - it's not fair to drag your parents names through the mud for your risks
+1
Couldn't agree more.
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He's greener than a leperchaun turd. This is no place for amateurs, let alone rug rats. If you aren't smart enough to at least project an adult age and persona, you should be blocked from the site. moonbear is totally compromised. Nuff said.
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i wouldn't just slate him - if you do all he's gonna do is ignore the advice, come back under a different user name, not mention the age thing at all and start writing in a different style
we were all there at some point, i know i was, and i couldn't wait to get into this shit with my more grown up friends, but it's a learning curve you need to go through with mates your own age. you almost need to get through some 2nd rate rubbish gear before you get the quality product off here otherwise you're gonna end up doing yourself over
i'm not just saying it cos he's young, i'm just trying to make him realise he's gonna fuck his parents life up if he gets pinched, as he's too young to go down for it - that shit isn't fair on them, even if they are arsehole folks (i'm not saying they are, just EVEN IF they are), and possibly his own - at that age your body isn't fully grown, and who knows what irreversible damage some of this stuff can do to you if your liver isn't fully developed, or your brain even
Yeah, we were all young once (I still am) but not many of us were thick enough to go on a WEBSITE TO PURCHASE DRUGS AT SCHOOL. I mean shit, what more do you want? This guy deserves everything he gets. People need to respect the seriousness of what we're doing here. This is not a place for people who don't have common sense.
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I remember being on 'adult' drug communities such as thehive.ws and wetdreams.ws 10 years ago, when I was moonbear's age and used to get constantly slated. Now I understand why. When you're 17, you think you're mature and have cemented opinions and it manifests in a certain passive aggressiveness. If anyone had told me I was too immature to be getting involved in drugs I would have thought they were ignorant and patronising and would no doubt have been defensive.
I'm so glad that Silk Road wasn't available when I was 17, I'd have bought something I couldn't handle and would inevitably have fucked up badly.
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ohhh childrenn...
If your under 18 you shouldnt be allowed to be a vendor. If you are accessing this site through school computers, you shouldnt be allowed to be a vendor. If you are unable to communicate like a mature adult, you shouldnt be a vendor.
Just my 2 cents, but i think he shouldnt be allowed to be a vendor ;D
Grow up moonbear, you have a life ahead of you and i know making a couple hundred dollars on here is not worth fucking your life up, since i know for a fact you would not know how to handle the situation if it came to be that you were in trouble or got caught.
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THERE SHOULD BE A STICKY IN RUMOR VILLE THAT SAYS "THESE PEOPLE ARE STILL KIDS BEWARE!"
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I made a few posts on some threads he was active on, and he got pretty offended about it. While I admit I shouldn't stick my nose in others business, I think it is fair that anyone dealing with him knows that he has been compromised even if he says he cleared it up. Which I'm not sure how you clear something like that up over night.
Even if he was banned from the site all he would do is make a new account and then no one would know, until he slipped up again. I hope that he listens to the advice that many of us have given him in many other threads and backs off the site, but from the look of his activity I don't see that happening. Lets just cross our fingers that if he gets pinched(i hope it doesn't happen), but if he keeps his mouth shut and has destroyed any evidence that may link him back to this site or other users from our community.
tl;dr Please be smart my SR family we need to stick together to keep this community how it is.
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imo dealing with minors anonymously via the internet is not cool especially when it comes to selling drugs.
Everyone talks about freedom but ultimately there are some restrictions put in place to protect those who are to0 dumb to protect themselves....
Thats why they are classified as minors. Most of us do not want to deal to a kid.
I know it cannot be ultimately enforced but I would like to see the 'kids' booted. I think blatant posting of minors is one thing, if I had to choose one, that SR does not need.
When I say dumb I mean inexperienced....and if you are after experience dont look for it in some unsuspecting vendor on SR... get your older brother to get your shit for you like the rest of us had to do.
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Ah ha I saw quite a few moonbear comments
Then I saw he was vendoring and I actually thought it was strange as hell, because he just didn't seem the type of guy, I think I'd seen him asking a REALLY basic weed related question somewhere else, like "How in the hell does he not know that?"
Yeah but god damn holy shit kid.
Drugs are cool, man, but Marijuana has been proven to stunt the mental development of CHILDREN, if you're under 15 you shouldn't be smoking, and even potheads know and respect that shit.
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So what we have here is a hypocrit trying to tell someone else how to live right..... By calling him out on the forums instead of handling the matter privately you basically put a giant sign on his back saying "hey im a kid and an easy target for LE to crack for information including the addresses LE now knows I have because some jackass on the forums said so in public"
So on behalf of the people who did send him an address(not I), thanks for pointing LE at a minor they can now strong arm into submission.
im one of those that sent him a address. i never called him out. i messaged him when i found out he was so young and told him to destroy all addresses he may have.he told me he does that already. i have messaging him trying to help him out with his packing methods and so forth. if this is what he wants to do let him. it's not my place or anyone else to tell him what to do.i wasn't a rat when i was 16 and im sure there are others here that wasn't rats when they were young. so give the guy a chance. he just needs to stop the dumbass threads.
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but not many of us were thick enough to go on a WEBSITE TO PURCHASE DRUGS AT SCHOOL.
this i didn't realise, and now i'm changing my stance a bit - this isn't a n00b mistake, this is just fucking stupid.
all the rest i said still stands, but FOR FUCK SAKE DON'T FUCKING COME HERE FROM A SCHOOL COMPUTER.
you might as well go to the nearest cop shop and ask to use one of their PC's
yeah i didn't know this either. now i take back what i said also. how fuckin dumb is that. hes probably telling everyone how cool he is, shows his friends the site, all our names. yeah im looking at this in a all new light.
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I see a lot of people crack on him because he said his best high was weed.
Well, I was an outright junkie for a good decade, and have been "clean" for the last decade.
I probably haven't done as many drugs as some, mostly because the 2C family and NBOME is new to me ;)
But I've done plenty of drugs, that required more than a pipe, and more than a little self restraint to get off off, and I will say
WEED is still the BEST high ever. EVER.
THC for me!
Fuck yeah.
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^he's been quiet ever since this thread haha.
Maybe he just enjoys browsing. I haven't heard of him buying or selling anything..
Has he?
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I've taken & sold many substances back in my years of experimenting, have not touched anything apart from weed in 4 years now though & i would not have it any other way. Weed really is the best for me, i understand everyone is different & i would never think of slating someone for their view or opinions on their drug of choice.
Am i a noob because i think weed is the best high, Am i a noob because i only smoke budder & don't need other substances in my life?
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it is now morning and it's a school day, and moonbear is on here as we speak! if he is in school that means hes on a school computer AGAIN browsing the forums.
man, get off the damn computer until you get home. what the fuck man!!!
rowdyrasta
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Rowdyrasta, I'm not on a school computer. I'd rather not explain why to protect my anonymity. It hurts to see you hopping on the bandwagon, putting me down when I gave you a free sample. Your address has been destroyed already, please leave me alone. I have nothing to say to you.
I personally apologize to anyone who's worried because they've dealt with me, but you have nothing to worry about. If anything were going to happen I'd have been arrested by now. I try to learn my mistakes and being new to the scene I was bound to make a mistake at some point. However, I'm not leaving and I'm going to continue vending. I have a loan to pay back and money to make and drugs to buy. I'm just not leaving.
To anyone who actually had advice to give, thank you. To anyone who's just here to put me down, fuck off.
I don't care how many people want me gone. It's my life, I want to use and sell drugs. I dreamed about being a dealer when I was younger, and no one's stopping me now. Again, I apologize for the mistakes I've made, but at least I'm man enough to own up to them when I know I'll get shit on for it.
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im protecting my people little boy and i will leave you alone. oh did you forget how i helped YOU? im not jumping any bandwagon, i didn't put you down. what the hell are we suppose to think while its school time and your on the computer. trust me your not hurting my feelings. i would never deal with you again anyway after all this shit, and your fucked up shipping methods. so im happy you destroyed the shipping info and im even happier i won't have anymore dealings with you. oh one more thing how much advice have you received from me? ALOT, so no problem ill leave you alone and good luck on your sales im sure your going to get alot of business.
rowdyrasta
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+1 for never using moonbear....
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It's my life, I want to use and sell drugs. I dreamed about being a dealer when I was younger, and no one's stopping me now.
and these are the kind of things that you are saying that people here really dont like to hear.
you think you are Nino from new jack city.
but you're just pookie, bringing the entire thing down.
*edit- i came off strong. i dont mean to offend you.
however, i dont believe you realize WHY everyone has a problem with you.
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no i agree with you... thats the line that worried me the most out of what he was saying...
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moonbear, I don't think anyone is trying to upset you. at large, we're concerned with safety, as a vendor, your risk is elevated so it's in your best interest to take advice and refine your ways.
also remember, depending on the circumstances, walking away from it all could be the best decision of your life. good luck!
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It's my life, I want to use and sell drugs. I dreamed about being a dealer when I was younger, and no one's stopping me now.
See, moony, lines like this make you seem like a 14-year-old girl throwing a temper tantrum because mommy won't let her get a tramp stamp.
Your age doesn't matter. You might remember that I posted a few times in that thread a few weeks ago that suggested banning underage users from SR, always expressing my disagreement with that idea. My main argument was that age does not equal maturity. And regardless of your age, which I neither know nor care to know, you have demonstrated a lack of maturity and of understanding the risks and possible consequences of your actions. And honestly, until you realize what you got yourself into and radically change your ways, dealing with you will always be a liability.
You don't have to explain why you're not on a school computer to protect your anonymity? Do you even understand how insane that statement is? The fact that anyone could get the slightest inkling of suspicion that you might have, at one point, accessed the Silk Road from a school computer is already more than enough evidence of your lack of concern for safety, privacy and anonymity. Such things are never to be done on a computer that doesn't belong to you, on a public computer or on a computer that can be accessed by people with a legal duty to report this kind of stuff to the police, and a school computer trips all three of these wires.
I trust that you mean well, moony. My advice to you is to slow down, and take the time to learn and implement the proper precautions before jumping in. You have no need to be in a hurry, especially when hurrying is so absurdly counterproductive.
Peace,
Horizons.
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I don't care how many people want me gone. It's my life, I want to use and sell drugs. I dreamed about being a dealer when I was younger, and no one's stopping me now
Why do you want to be a dealer?Where are you going to get these drugs? Who are you going to sell them to? How are you going to account for the money going in and out of your account? Are you gonna hold down a poorly paid real world job whilst sitting on a house full of cash you can't spend? What happens when one of the kids you sells to grasses you up when he gets caught?
I have a friend who wanted to be a dealer, he started small, shifting a few of ounces of weed and coke, saved up some cash, bought a few kilos of weed from a grower and arranged to meet with a buyer through a trusted friend. This friend is hard as fuck but paid a heavier guy to come along to oversee the deal. The 'buyer' turned out to be a Chinese gang who pull a gun, stole the weed and left. There was fuck all the friend could do, shaken up, money and weed gone.
Another acquaintance was buying MDMA from a man who was recently charged with ABH and kidnapping- he had laid on a few ounces of MDMA to a kid who then couldn't sell it on within the agreed time and so couldn't pay up the cash. The kid had been tied to a chair over a weekend, given a kicking and gone over with an industrial staple gun :(
A friends father was renting a unit in which he was growing 400 plants at a time. 2 days before harvest, a Scouse gang raided it and took the lot. It turned out it his wife was having an affair and had 'accidently' mentioned it to someone. Similarly, a middle aged woman I know had a small grow op (about 30 plants) to supplement her income. Unbeknown to her, her 13 year old son was stealing small amounts and selling to friends at school. One of these friends was caught and immediately grassed the son. The police raided, social services were involved, very messy over a small bit of weed.
I could go on. These are all true stories which have happened in the last 5 years, involving adults who were just about making a living in the real-world drugs trade. I imagine you have a romanticized image of drug dealing, where you have your own island with private jets and an endless supply of coked up, horny girls at your beck and call. Aside from making tiny profits buying drugs on Silk Road and selling them to friends, the real world drug trade is not always pleasant and you have to sell a lot of drugs to make a reasonable living- don't needlessly ruin your life by trying to jump in at the deep end!
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look, age isnt the main issue here; its moonbear being totally irresponsible and naive.
in his thread he addmitted the school CALLED HIM UP having caught him on SR. I called him up on this, he said "it wasn't a bid deal". Well, it is a big deal. its a fucking huge deal! its a massive deal to everyone who has been involved with him and to SR as a whole.
He is jepordising himself, but more importantly other people and it just gives the government ammo; does nobody else see the news headlines "children buying heroin and guns online"
i know he cant be banned, but please can SR take his sellers account- reimburse it to Badboy who can sell it and recover loan costs. Time to cut everyone's losses.
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hahahahaha. i cant believe this! ahahahahahah. he was caught on SR at school. lol. is isnt a big deal.....
i feel so good that i never give my real address :)
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Moonbear, I suggest you do at least four things if you're not leaving.
1. Kill moonbear and make a alt to post here instead. Get rid of your SR account and arrange to pay back later with a fixed amount of interest. Honor your debts to earn street credibility.
2. Make a business plan. If you don't plan, you plan to fail. Take your time, it could take months of hard work to achieve a water tight business plan for drug dealing. You have to do *at least* as much work as a legitimate businessman if you're to be professional. Also, you have school work to be doing at the same time.
3. Having a laptop with Liberte linux, an Ironkey, a bridge onto the TOR network, is a bare minimum to secure your setup as a seller. i.e. you got your work cut out for you with this alone.
4. Get a part time job to get some start up capital for your business. Achieving 1,2 and 3 is likely going to take a couple of thousand dollars. It's easier to explain yourself to your parents when you've your own source of capital. Protip: learning how to work hard is good for the soul, it gives you confidence in your abilities. I'd trust somebody cleaning toilets over a typical highschooler who hasn't worked a day in their lives and had everything handed to them on a plate.
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Moonbear, I suggest you do at least four things if you're not leaving.
1. Kill moonbear and make a alt to post here instead. Get rid of your SR account and arrange to pay back later with a fixed amount of interest. Honor your debts to earn street credibility.
2. Make a business plan. If you don't plan, you plan to fail. Take your time, it could take months of hard work to achieve a water tight business plan for drug dealing. You have to do *at least* as much work as a legitimate businessman if you're to be professional. Also, you have school work to be doing at the same time.
3. Having a laptop with Liberte linux, an Ironkey, a bridge onto the TOR network, is a bare minimum to secure your setup as a seller. i.e. you got your work cut out for you with this alone.
4. Get a part time job to get some start up capital for your business. Achieving 1,2 and 3 is likely going to take a couple of thousand dollars. It's easier to explain yourself to your parents when you've your own source of capital. Protip: learning how to work hard is good for the soul, it gives you confidence in your abilities. I'd trust somebody cleaning toilets over a typical highschooler who hasn't worked a day in their lives and had everything handed to them on a plate.
1. I'm already using an alternate account for the forums, and I won't be using this one very often anymore.
2. I've been planning, I'm figuring out ways to get product to sell on here, and I even started a selling proxy here for people who can't afford seller accounts.
3. I'll buy that setup when I can afford it, but right now I can't.
4. I already have a part time job, making $500+ a month :)
Thank you everyone for your advice. When I first got my seller account I got carried away with it, but since then I've sat down and thought things through. Now I believe I have things relatively under control. You'll see me around the forums quite a bit, but you won't know it's me, I promise you that. Thanks again for the advice.
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Selling proxy is the worst idea ever when it comes to customers security. I thought about doing it too a few months back but then canned the idea.
Customer buys a product that you dont have in your possession, you then get the customers address and pass it off to some random to ship the product??? then you give the coin to the random once the deal is all done?
This would be ok I suppose if you had a deal with somebody you trusted but you are offering this to the general public.
I would not like my address passed around like that and I would be surprised if you sold anything much.
Anyway...It is only going to take a few undesirables to list a product with you they dont have just to purposely fuck with your rating. 8) >:(
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Am I gonna get trolled every time I use this account for next few months until everyone involved with this leaves or forgets?
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Am I gonna get trolled every time I use this account for next few months until everyone involved with this leaves or forgets?
Um yeah shirlock holmes, everyone knows you're no older than 18- ergo, all posts from moonbear aren't taken seriously.
C'mon son
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I will not be I have better things to do and I think the few threads that have been made do the trick, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say yes. After making it very public your underage and got busted using the site on school computers, you think people are just going to be like oh well no biggie. Sorry man, but you kind of brought this on yourself. I do hope you have at least learned from your mistakes and in the future don't make them again.
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Oh well, I guess you all can waste time trolling me, at this point it's kind of funny to me.
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We're not trolling you, son. We're displaying a sincere concern for the threat that your actions pose to yourself and to the SR community in general. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. That's all we want.
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I really hope you were not talking about me. Your replies to my messages on SR and the ones on this thread clearly show how immature you are. Please, for your own safety, wise up. If you had acted differently, there would have been no reason for me to not do business with you. But you made mistakes in the past, that alone will hurt your reputation and will make people not trust you. We are all at risk here, with money and the law, and we share that risk. You break that trust, it is hard to get it back. That is how the system is built. You wanna get your trust back, acting immature is not the way.
People can be willing to forgive, if given good enough reason to...
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I really hope you were not talking about me. Your replies to my messages on SR and the ones on this thread clearly show how immature you are. Please, for your own safety, wise up. If you had acted differently, there would have been no reason for me to not do business with you. But you made mistakes in the past, that alone will hurt your reputation and will make people not trust you. We are all at risk here, with money and the law, and we share that risk. You break that trust, it is hard to get it back. That is how the system is built. You wanna get your trust back, acting immature is not the way.
People can be willing to forgive, if given good enough reason to...
Given recent events my parents have considered that I'm mentally retarded. They are taking me to a psychiatrist. Maybe he will help works things out for me.
In the meantime, I'm still open for business as usual. ;D
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you're loved ones are taking you to a pyschiatrist, while you go on speed binges and look to try heavy opiates and dissociatives?!
what the fuck is wrong with you?
reading your posts actually annoys me.
anyone who does business with you is as incompetent as you.
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you're loved ones are taking you to a pyschiatrist, while you go on speed binges and look to try heavy opiates and dissociatives?!
what the fuck is wrong with you?
reading your posts actually annoys me.
anyone who does business with you is as incompetent as you.
You left out the part where Moonbear stuffed a rolled joint up his ass, didn't get high, then smoked the shit covered joint afterwards.
I can see how his parents suspect him of being mentally retarded. http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11002.msg100479;boardseen#new
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you're loved ones are taking you to a pyschiatrist, while you go on speed binges and look to try heavy opiates and dissociatives?!
what the fuck is wrong with you?
reading your posts actually annoys me.
anyone who does business with you is as incompetent as you.
I agree on the heavy opiates, but I actually think there's a good chance dissociatives might help him out a lot. Especially in conjunction with therapy. Ketamine (and to a lesser extent, DXM and MXE) has been known to act very well against depression, though that isn't proven with scientific rigour yet. And it also provides a wonderful trip, which will keep him satiated as far as his need for instant gratification goes.
I'm still of the opinion that he should chill out and do some acid or shrooms, though. Get some serene contemplation done, as it were.
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Ok ok ok....listen now his back is up, so there is no point going on about it anymore anyone!! hopefully if we give him long enough to digest all this info the/some pennies will drop....?
Moonbear, please think about what i'm about to say. Soo many people are actually giving you some excellent advice, i sure hope you are clever enough(i know you are but experience? it dont come easy) to sit down and chew on these peoples words before you bite back.
Im 40 now and have been dealing on and off since i was 13/14 yrs old. I never had anyone to give me advice and believe me when i say there are some clever folks been trying their best to help you, come on man do you really expect clever & helpful peeps to be all nice and polite when it took them years of hard work , shitty REAL life experiences to have the wisdom they have (they giving gratis too bro). They are not sniping/trolling you mate. You have a chance to join a PROPER club here on SR, learn a lot of stuff we all wasted years learning.
Now slink into the background , do some thinking and start listening not yapping. Final note , being cheeky not gonna do you any good amigo. Good luck, take it easy and if you can't be good at least be feckin careful. Sunny
Now im not surprised some are getting downright angry with you, get a grip young brother :-\
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you're loved ones are taking you to a pyschiatrist, while you go on speed binges and look to try heavy opiates and dissociatives?!
what the fuck is wrong with you?
reading your posts actually annoys me.
anyone who does business with you is as incompetent as you.
I agree on the heavy opiates, but I actually think there's a good chance dissociatives might help him out a lot. Especially in conjunction with therapy. Ketamine (and to a lesser extent, DXM and MXE) has been known to act very well against depression, though that isn't proven with scientific rigour yet. And it also provides a wonderful trip, which will keep him satiated as far as his need for instant gratification goes.
I'm still of the opinion that he should chill out and do some acid or shrooms, though. Get some serene contemplation done, as it were.
I actually have some MXE sitting here for a rainy day. I get the impression its like a more psychedelic ketemine but a bit less of a body high? Definitely a lot of interest in this one, just waiting for the right time to give it a go. The low dosages kind of keep me weary at the moment.
But yeah, maybe dropping some LSD and having a good think would do a world of good. Maybe not so if this psychosis thing plays out to be more than just a cry for attention?
Moonbear, sorry to come across as a bit of a dick in a few posts. ill put it on a back burner. Its just frustration to hear someone so close to messing up so often. Take care man.
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I actually have some MXE sitting here for a rainy day. I get the impression its like a more psychedelic ketemine but a bit less of a body high? Definitely a lot of interest in this one, just waiting for the right time to give it a go. The low dosages kind of keep me weary at the moment.
I haven't personally taken MXE, for the same reason as you (and I'm also a bit weary about the reports that it causes compulsive redosing). But I have extensive experience with ketamine and DXM, as well as a few psychedelics. I've always heard MXE described as "almost-ketamine" but the specifics of how it's different (apart from dose/duration) vary from person to person. Some say it feels more psychedelic, or that it has a different body load (I've heard both that it has a higher and lower body load), or that it's like ketamine with the afterglow of DXM. Many have reported that it's very similar to combining ketamine and DXM, or ketamine and a small dose of psilocin/psilocybin/psilacetin.
I'm fairly sure that curiosity will eventually get the better of me, but I don't see myself taking MXE in the near future. As for its effects on depression, I have the impression that it's even more effective than ketamine, based on other people's experience. And ketamine + DXM have helped me through some dark times indeed so if that impression is true MXE might be nothing short of a miracle drug.
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i just hope he knows it's his folks that are going to be fucked if he gets busted doing anything because he's a minor
moonbear, if you're reading this - slow down man, you've got plenty of time to get into this stuff if that's what you really want to do, but at least wait until you're legally responsible for your own actions - it's not fair to drag your parents names through the mud for your risks
A lot of good points in this thread but this is the best advice/point ^ . Please consider the above while you consider your stay on SR + the forums moonbear...
Your obviously too stubborn to leave so no amount of truth-telling, pisstaking and wisdom from me will make you fuck off so I guess I'd just throw my 2 cents and you can interpret it however...first of all I would just suggest use your alt account from this point forwards...
also...say goodbye to your proxy-drug-delivering service as your reputation has been raped (for better or worse) on these forums , to be blunt nobody's going to want to do business with someone whose idiotic enough to use Silk Road at work or SCHOOL..
or wants to find poisonous mushrooms to hurt their "dealer"...
asks strange/ignorant questions about drugs...
Moonbear Action Plan:
1) just pay back the BTC loan you owe
2) use your alt forum name
3) vend from a new acct if your THAT obsessed with selling drugs @ tiny % markups
It's safe to say anybody that STILL does business with you from this point onwards is either
a) a idiot
b) someone who hasn't visited these forums.
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I actually have some MXE sitting here for a rainy day. I get the impression its like a more psychedelic ketemine but a bit less of a body high? Definitely a lot of interest in this one, just waiting for the right time to give it a go. The low dosages kind of keep me weary at the moment.
I haven't personally taken MXE, for the same reason as you (and I'm also a bit weary about the reports that it causes compulsive redosing). But I have extensive experience with ketamine and DXM, as well as a few psychedelics. I've always heard MXE described as "almost-ketamine" but the specifics of how it's different (apart from dose/duration) vary from person to person. Some say it feels more psychedelic, or that it has a different body load (I've heard both that it has a higher and lower body load), or that it's like ketamine with the afterglow of DXM. Many have reported that it's very similar to combining ketamine and DXM, or ketamine and a small dose of psilocin/psilocybin/psilacetin.
I'm fairly sure that curiosity will eventually get the better of me, but I don't see myself taking MXE in the near future. As for its effects on depression, I have the impression that it's even more effective than ketamine, based on other people's experience. And ketamine + DXM have helped me through some dark times indeed so if that impression is true MXE might be nothing short of a miracle drug.
well, i actually happened to give a low dose a go last night! really lovely stuff. it was like a really strong benzo buzz/ light opiate buzz with a psychedelic edge to it. really warm and floaty. were talking TINY dosage here. probably 40-50mg (eye balled). It began to get psychedelic but a reminder of ketemine dissociation.
i hear real high doses get pretty heavy from big dissociative users so im taking this one slowly...
definitely worth a try though!
moonbear, you can ACTUALLY shove this up your ass! just dont roll it into a joint this time ;D
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He has just as much right to be here as anyone else does
If he is truly irresponsible, fine, judge him for that. If he is not honest, judge him for that.
But don't judge him because he's a kid. Don't assume he is irresponsible and dishonest because he is younger than you.
I don't know anything about moonbear, and I'm not saying he's done nothing wrong, I really don't know. I'm just saying, his age shouldn't (and doesn't) determine whether or not he has a right to be here, his character should.
I agree with you, his character should be what we judge him on.
Okay, he made 3 rediculous threads in 3 days.
1.Jenkim
2.I cant remember this one. I'm sure someone can fill it in for me though.
3.Find X persons address because my sister was raped (In this thread he admitted to being underage)
He acts like a child. Therefore he will be treated as such.
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No child who has openly admitted his age should be vending or allowed to vend on here.
As a client of the SR marketplace I don't want my product, funds, or my safety handled by a child, they simply lack just far far too much experience to try selling drugs over the internet, nevermind selling them in the first place.
I implore moon to continue trying if he insists upon it. Really I do, the day Bubba tears you a second asshole, you'll learn just like the rest of us have that you are not invincible (but you sure think you are as a kid), and if 5 pages of people telling you to stop trying to do this now hasn't convinced you then perhaps it might just take Bubba.