Quote from: jackofspades on May 13, 2013, 05:18 amQuote from: jundullahi on May 11, 2013, 09:32 pmMaking a revolution requires the will to sacrifice your life for the cause. Revolution is can lead to civil war and alot of bloodshed. I in my opinion people now a days enjoy there life to much to be willing to die. That is the lack of balls you are speaking off. They such dont care enough for the cause to die for it.Tell me honestly jackofspades would you sacrifice your live for a truly free America. Atleast if you are American.I guess it would depend on the definition of "truly free" if you mean that i could choose the laws of the land to be followed as if i was some all powerful man who had the final say and i was guaranteed that my will would be followed after my death then ... YES absolutely!I would sacrifice my own life for a truly free (according to my definition of freedom) America.I'm sure yourself and Chip are sincere about wanting freedom. However like jundullahi I'm inclined to think you're fairly rare in the population. Although there are right and left wing people who want the best for the country, and would even physically defend it if necessary, the majority of those people are also the most ticked off about where America is going and have been for a very long time. Despite media coverage giving the impression of tribal conflict being the root cause of today's political problems, I think we're actually more centrist than we've ever been (in practice, once you drop the talk). I think people get that, which is partly why Congress has all time low ratings in the polls, nobody feels represented.In a more individualistic and centrist society it is harder to get nationalism, certainly it is harder to get productive types of nationalism. I'm not a nationalist myself but that is what I see.I think that a younger generation is likely to be a good bit more extreme in their political outlook, which may be no bad thing so long as it doesn't turn into illegitimate violence. I mean if centrism was a politically optimal ideology then we'd have evolved out of right/left thinking several thousand years ago. I think centrism happens after a long period of peace and prosperity, and it evaporates once the boat hits the rocks.Sometimes I wish I was more optimistic for the medium term, lol.