Quote from: TuggingOnSupermansCape on May 01, 2013, 05:31 pmQuote from: pine on April 25, 2013, 10:02 pmQuote from: TuggingOnSupermansCape on April 24, 2013, 06:26 pmIt is stable and secure, and every single bit of information sent is hashed, then hashed again. No plain text vulnerability here (cough, SR). Every single bit of information is hashed?! And again! What are you talking about? :oThere is only 1 real way to avoid the plaintext vulnerability and everybody knows that. Clientside encryption. Since every little bitty bit gets hashed, pray do tell how a consumer's shipping address or username is hashed twice and then magically reversed so the vendors knows what to do. With your quantum computer? Because it sounds very much like you're saying a bunch of irrelevant or vague bullshit to pull the wool over people's eyes so they think server side encryption is A-OK. Hashing is done for passwords. There's no point in doing it for other user data unless the user enters the identical strings again. Encryption serverside then is a separate matter. You don't seem to be lucid.I think you are just an agent provocateur. Loving how all the Atlantis groupies have about 50 posts between them.This feels like what happens when Privnote starts a druggy hidden service! :DI have stated this before, but i'll go ahead and do it again. I've been on the road for a year and a half. Registered here in jan or feb. I don't do the spam posts, so thats why i still have a low, but quality, post count. You slinging wild accusations is almost as bad as the mass of people believing that DPR and his one man crew singlehandedly solved SR and TOR's 'attacks' when just hours before he all but admitted defeat. I hope you're not about to accuse pine of slander. Before you know it, we could be at the City Park at dawn, drawing pistols in a duel.Quote from: TuggingOnSupermansCape on May 01, 2013, 05:31 pmDPR and his 'team' had absolutely nothing to do with SR coming back up. The attack was confirmed as stopped. I appreciate loyalty but some of you are just sheep, plain and simple. I couldn't care less, it's your money, your wasted time, your unhappy customers. One day you will wake up.Most people criticizing Atlantis are libertarians who don't have a problem with Atlantis competing with SR. Indeed most buyers and vendors would prefer to see more competition to drive prices down, but more importantly to increase the diversification of the darknet economy.My problem with Atlantis is mainly down to the fact they are acting weird, specifically obfuscating the difference between clientside and serverside PGP encryption. This is very bad in Pine's book, and you know why. It does not prove that they are a DEA honeypot but it does make them look suspicious, so you can hardly blame people for jumping to conclusions.You cannot accuse SRians of being sheep. Although some of it may be naive tribalism, look at how former OVDB was welcomed by SR, and more importantly, how there is almost no rancor with discussing backopy's BlackMarketReloaded, a direct competitor to SR. Atlantis is being picked on specifically because of its marketing approach and what some would call its proponents abrasive manner (not to mention the DOS attack started immediately after a sharp rise in people or sockpuppets talking about Atlantis). The Atlantis people came out and said it was not them, which is accepted and appreciated by me. The timing was highly unfortunate though.If the Atlantis admins want to advertise on SRF, I don't think DPR has a problem with that. Just show the correct nyms and talk plainly instead of this apparent astroturfing we saw a few days ago. Whether it's true that's what it was or not, it makes Atlantis look unethical. You Atlantis supporters do not want to give the impression of an American electoral campaign I should hope. Like kmfkewm says, it just comes across as unprofessional spam. Just imagine SRians return the favor and spam your discussion board (oh wait...). I think we understand each other. Surely we're better than that.FWIW, I think there are a number of important areas where darknet marketplaces can cooperate to great affect. Namely vendor insurance, backup strategies, vendor information sharing, security information sharing and so on. We should be all aiming towards a darknet confederacy.Quote from: TuggingOnSupermansCape on May 01, 2013, 05:31 pmp.s. why is no one freaking out about tormail being a honeypot?It was the only other tor site to go down with the 'attacks'. DB inaccessible now. It was touted, advertised, and promoted all throughout SR and these forums as the defacto mail service to use. Things that make you go hmmmm.We always knew Tormail could be a honepot, practically every time I suggested using it to newbs I said just that. You're right though, that Tormail is unavailable at the same time as this attack on SR is suspicious. Although they may be unconnected events, it biases our idea of the attacker being somehow connected to LE. I think it is time we emphasized we diversify our contact information or find a proper system for distributed encrypted anonymous communications that cannot be shutdown. I like BitMessage and Liberte's Cables, but I have not yet had the time to investigate BitMessage fully.