Quote from: Green Camel on March 28, 2013, 01:32 amQuote from: surmer on March 28, 2013, 12:40 amRight. There are no such things as "anonymous" bank accounts.Does the money appear in your pockets from magic? Do you not pick up cash from somewhere? Where do you live that there aren't cameras? iPhones? Computers?I highly doubt ATMs record data on who withdrew how much cash and when. If so, it doesn't really matter if there's CCTV or not. The bank doesn't know who you are in either case.If you're just trying to hide from the taxman, it's a perfectly viable solution. It has it's limitations of course but doesn't everything?Just to clarify, I was implying an offshore bank account.This discussion is all bamboozling to pine, but FYI, some thoughts:1. Not only do ATMs record that data, but they usually photograph the face of the person withdrawing the cash at that time. There is a hidden camera in the back of most ATMs, you can't see it. ATMs are connected by modem or similar to the bank's computer network, they are not at all like the money version of soda dispensing machines, all the heavy lifting re: encrypted communications, database stuff, is done back at HQ.2. Numbered accounts, useful though they are, have far more limitations regarding anonymity than the bitcoin network. It doesn't matter if you have a numbered account, the intermediary still knows factoids such as how much cash you withdrew, where it was at etc. You're essentially dependent on a private banker not giving you up in return for a hefty fee. I'm sure this was all the rage in the 70s and 80s, but now we have bitcoin! Swiss bank accounts for the masses! The issue now is we need some manner of abstraction to make bitcoin as better store of value since the exchange rate is as volatile as fuck.3. Not paying tax is an advantage. Unless you have a lot of money, and I do mean "alot", which you need to launder in order to interact with the traditional economy. Otherwise you should probably convert the excess over your living expenses into literal cash deposits of various currencies squirreled away at different places and/or gold bars to offset inflation. But paying taxes without an ulterior motive is not something I comprehend. I hope you're not suffering from Stockholm syndrome! :)4. I think you could do this. But the result would be that there will be the Mark of Cain on you for even admitting officially that you gain monies from the bitcoin economy period. SR vendors should ideally, if questioned by people connected to officialdom either claim they know nothing about bitcoin, or claim they have investigated, geeked it out and it's the dumbest idea since Superbowl tofu dogs. Tell curious people how bitcoin doesn't measure up to the Platonic ideal or Aristotelian conception of money or something equally dense and they won't be able to get you to STFU fast enough.