Quote from: kitkat82 on October 09, 2012, 12:14 amQuote from: Novartis on September 26, 2012, 06:31 am At the very least go to the ER (And if you don't want to pay the bill use a fake name) and say you're suicidal. They should GIVE the actual anti-depressants or at the very least have you talk to a trained doctor who will give you a script.I could be wrong, don't listen to me hahaPlease don't go to the ER and tell them you are suicidal unless you want to risk being held for a minimum 72 hour hold in a state run (and seriously shitty and dangerous) mental hospital. If you have insurance you get to go to the nice places (I have been there). If you have no insurance you will be sent to the equivalent of a state penitentiary. This is where all the mentally disturbed murderers like Andrea Yates go.I know this from experience, I was in an abusive relationship and very scared and depressed and I was hoping they would give me some better meds and maybe a small script for attivan. Nope, they informed me that what I said legally obligated them to commit me against my will. They had security guards watch me overnight in the hospital and I was sent in a police car to the state run mental hospital for 7 days of hell. This is dependent on what doctor you get. I don't feel like it is worth gambling away your freedom and safety to get a script for zoloft and risperdal.They told me after the 72 hours that I was too depressed to go home. Fuck yeah I was depressed, my roommate was in for homicidal urges and seeing and hearing people, there was a guy on our ward who peed on every chair and sofa, and the nastiest and most conniving felons who pretended to be suicidal so they could get out of prison took their meals with us. Fights broke out on teh mens side which we had to wait in before our cigarette breaks (a wonderful 5 minutes 2 times a day), I was aggressively harassed for cigarettes and almost had a freaking TABLE land on me thrown by one of the prisoners who was in shackles because I wouldn't give him any more cigarettes. They were violent and the staff was overwhelmed. I am really surprised I was not murdered.I am sorry to hear that happened to you kitkat. It is almost typical state run institutions to treat their customers like cattle in this manner.In the new world we are building we shall take back our freedom. The black market shall prevail and a fair majority of the demons that haunt the minds of people in our society will evaporate. There are so many things that seem at first glance to be unrelated to our struggle against the state, but which are fundamentally connected.It's not just mental health institutions such as that you describe. It's this cancerous malaise that hangs over the west in general. You can almost taste it in the air in certain places. In desolate ghettoized housing developments where the people have given up hope of a better world, to the fatalism of present day folks lining up at voting booths who know full well their vote counts for nothing: all this lack of life comes from the dead hand of the state. So yes, the state IS responsible for mental ailments. The market won't solve everything, it isn't a cure all. But the sheer level of inadequacy of the state, it might feel that way!