Quote from: kmfkewm on October 03, 2012, 02:56 amQuote from: pine on October 03, 2012, 02:46 amyou're faalsocing over 9000 geeks:DQuote from: kmfkewm on October 03, 2012, 02:56 amwm-center takes western union, bank wire, and cash in the mail for bitcoin in addition to exchanging liberty reserve, pecunix, c-gold and perfect money for it. There are about a billion exchangers that will send bank wire and accept various forms of payment for lr, pecunix c-gold and perfect money as well, so you can send via standard payment services to any of those exchangers and have them send the payment on to wm-center. disclaimer: WM-center used to be a widely used exchanger back in the good old centralized E-currency days, I have not used them recently and refuse to vouch for them beyond saying they used to be legitimate. ps: there are a lot of exchangers like WM-center, but most people here seem stuck in the bitcoin box and if a service didn't originate to exchange bitcoin and include bitcoin in its domain name not many here seem to know about it lol.Yes! Lots of flexible methods! :)It is glorious really. Behold the glorious revolution. And it's going to get better still once I get going with my scary plan No.7.I would like some feature of SRF where people can submit trip reports in some organized format, like Erowid's idea, but more rigorous and detailed. If that was setup, then it would be easy to have a 'buy bitcoin report' in a similar way to the trip report forms, and then the million and one ways to obtain bitcoin could be described, making it more user friend for newbs than trawling through the forums for info.I know how everybody is like "ZOMG, drugs on the internet, can I haz yesterday?" and that's a perfectly reasonable response to SR, but for your own sake you all have to take a breather and do it properly, and properly = anonymously.There are two forms of anonymity with bitcoin, what I call two-factor anonymity if you're interested in being completely 100% anonymous.1. Physical anonymity. Preventing the acquisition of bitcoins being linked to you.For buyers, this is where you obtain your bitcoins anonymous in the first place. CIM, cash deposit at banks, OTC and using other virtual currencies as an intermediates can achieve this but I'm sure there's plenty of other methods e.g. debit cards, ukash, being in a mining pool and probably hundreds of other methods.Although these methods can be anonymous, it doesn't mean you can't screw it up e.g. you are at the bank making a deposit and the teller recognizes you since this is also your normal bank, so think it through step by step.2. Virtual anonymity. Preventing the use of bitcoins for your illegal purchases being traced back to you.This is where you become anonymous on the block chain itself. All transactions in bitcoin are publicly available. This is a great strength and a great caveat. Anonymity is achieved by the use of mixers. The most famous mixers are bitcoin laundry and bitcoin fog, but I see others called cleanbit and blockchain. The exchanges and online bitcoin wallets themselves may act as pools where you'll recieve different bitcoins to the ones you put in, but you don't know whether they're keeping a record of that stuff. The basic idea is that you put in your bitcoins into the system and you receive somebody else's bitcoins. Now those bitcoins may or may not have been acquired anonymously, but the point is that they were acquired by somebody else and not yourself.In the future there will be anonymity solutions like open transactions, blind signature mixers and ripple transactions and such that make virtual anonymity easier and far more difficult to unravel. But for now it's a paying proposition.Please note that you're dealing with 3rd parties here. All those mixers I mentioned could just steal your money. In addition, if they keep records of the transactions like a honeypot would, then mixing is completely pointless. There are solutions to these problems on the horizon. In the meantime do the smart thing and;A: Search forums and google for references to these services. Are they any good? Or scams?B: Test your deposits into a mixer by using small quantities, or/and dividing up your deposits among several mixers.C: Always send bitcoins to OTA or One Time Addresses. Never use the same bitcoin address twice. Ever.Ultimately if you do Physical Anonymity + Virtual Anonymity, then you're very very unlikely to get busted for buying product via the use of the bitcoin network. More importantly perhaps, using both methods means if you goof up somewhere somehow, then the other 'anonymity factor' covers your ass. It's nice to be smart all the time, but it's better to be really smart and make a Plan B for your fucking up instead of expecting perfection from yourself. Also being smart all the time is impossible so that leaves...